perf-list-digest Monday, June 29 1998 Volume 01 : Number 011



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam
RE: FTE Perf - Colder plugs
Re: FTE Perf - Colder plugs
FTE Perf - Sparkplugs
FTE Perf - Colder Plug
Re: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam
RE: FTE Perf - Colder Plug
RE: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam
FTE Perf - website update
FTE Perf - ADMIN: May archives online
Re: FTE Perf - Colder Plug
Re: FTE Perf - Sparkplugs

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:42:39 -0700
From: "George"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam

I put in a 460, 3500# vehicle and 1000rpm t/c for street usage. It
recommended a 280 series with radical idle that requires a 3000rpm stall
converter. Could be a dangerous sales tool for a novice.

Subject: RE: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam


i didn't think the program was useful for me (all it told me for my new
motor was to call for a custom cam grind) but i thought it may be more
useful for smaller engines.

sleddog

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From: Dave & Debby Anderson[SMTP:danders uswest.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 1998 4:24 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam

The Comp Cams program appears to make a selection based more on intended
usage than what you've actually got for parts - then you get a long list of
things they'd like you to replace in order for their recommendation to
work.
Oh well, at least it's free.

I do like the cam timing calculator in the utilities area. It seems to be
very accurate at predicting opening and closing events.

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:01:29 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Colder plugs

call summit racing, ford motorsports, etc.

or try the plug manufacturers. they should be at least able to tell you
how their parts #'s work so you can go to autozone and give them a part
number.

sorry i can't be of more help.
sleddog

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From: Brett ITT 41[SMTP:bwallen bellsouth.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 1998 10:47 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Perf - Colder plugs

Hello all, I have built an '89 Ranger to go road racing with the SCCA in
their improved touring class. My question is how do I find a colder
plug for the higher rpm's that I am going to be seeing? I have tried
Autozone but their answer is the same for almost everything "if I don't
have a part number I can't help you." I am using the stock plug size
now but beleive a colder plug would help in the higher rpm range. The
engine is an 2.3 w/fuel injection. I have added a set of headers and
removed all smog equip. Thanks in advance.

gottago seeya bye

Brett ITT 41
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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:51:38 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Colder plugs

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> From: Brett

My question is how do I find a colder
> plug for the higher rpm's that I am going to be seeing? I have tried
> Autozone but their answer is the same for almost everything "if I don't
> have a part number I can't help you."

Brett, if you use either Autolite or Motorcraft (which are the same plug,
just different cosmetics, and btw the only ones I recommend) just use the
numerically lower plug with the same prefix/suffix as the one you are using
currently. Of course go up numerically for a hotter plug. The same goes for
A/C plugs and most other brands, however I don't use/recommend anything
other than Autolite and Motorcraft. If you would like to see why, purchase
some different brand plugs and break them apart, doesn't take a rocket
scientist to see why they are a good durable spark plug.

Hope this helps you.


John Miller, FoMoCoNUT Gibralter.net
96 F-350 Reg Cab XLT, 4x4, 460 w/ A4OD, My Baby "Baloo"
75 F-100 Reg Cab Ranger, 2wd, 360, C6, Daily Driver "Lucy"
and "always" looking ! ! !

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:08:11 -0700
From: "George"
Subject: FTE Perf - Sparkplugs

I'd like to hear what some of the other 460 people run as plugs. I use
Autolite 35s in the DOVE heads.

George

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:37:09 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE Perf - Colder Plug

- -> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:47:31 -0400
- -> From: Brett ITT 41
- -> Subject: FTE Perf - Colder plugs
- ->
SNIP
- -> My question is how do I find a colder plug for the higher rpm's that I
am going to be seeing? I have tried
- -> Autozone but their answer is the same for almost everything "if I don't
have a part number I can't help you."
- -> Brett ITT

Easy answer.
Give SUMMIT or JEGS a call and tell them that you want a set of plugs that
are one heat range colder then stock. While your at it order another set
that is two heat ranges colder.
At the same time order a copy of the "CHAMPION" Hi-performance and Racing
Heat Range Chart and Tuning Guide
my copy is old but it has the following identification: Form No. 6b-1
Reorder Number 99684
With Champions as the number on the plug gets smaller the plug gets colder.

Once you get to the track ask around and find out where the racers are
getting their Hi-pro parts because you need a new parts store!
Also politely and professionally let the store manager know that your
business is going elsewhere because of the lack of knowledge that his/her
staff has. I have found that often the Manager is unaware of the problem and
may be able you direct you to "the" person on staff that is able to read and
comprehend a parts book.
Where did all of the good parts counter people go any-ways?
Ever run in to this one?

"I need a set of spark plugs for a Ford 460."
"What Year?"
"76"
"Is it an Auto, or Manual?"
"Manual"
"A/C?"
"No"
"What Model"
"78 Bronco"
"There is no listing for a 76 460 in a 78 Bronco"
"Ya, I know, just give me a set of plugs for a 460"

"What Year?"
"76"
"Is it an Auto, or Manual?"
"Manual"
"A/C?"
"No"
"What Model"

Have fun at the track!
CS
79 Bronco


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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:08:09 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam

Yeah just about every combination I plugged in called for a custom grind.

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> From: Sleddog
> To: 'perf-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: RE: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam
> Date: Saturday, June 27, 1998 5:49 PM
>
> i didn't think the program was useful for me (all it told me for my new
> motor was to call for a custom cam grind) but i thought it may be more
> useful for smaller engines.
>
> sleddog
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:25:02 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Colder Plug

i get this all the time. or "there is no listing for a 77 f150 with a
460"
or did you ever get a part like the lifetime warrenty on universal joints
at parts america, break it and then be told you didn't get it there?
happens to me, they changed part style, but not number and i was refused a
replacement. of course maybe they didn't like me getting new free u-joints
every 2 weeks!

sleddog

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From: Chris Samuel[SMTP:fourmuelz email.msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 1998 2:37 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Perf - Colder Plug

Where did all of the good parts counter people go any-ways?
Ever run in to this one?

"I need a set of spark plugs for a Ford 460."
"What Year?"
"76"
"Is it an Auto, or Manual?"
"Manual"
"A/C?"
"No"
"What Model"
"78 Bronco"
"There is no listing for a 76 460 in a 78 Bronco"
"Ya, I know, just give me a set of plugs for a 460"

"What Year?"
"76"
"Is it an Auto, or Manual?"
"Manual"
"A/C?"
"No"
"What Model"

Have fun at the track!
CS
79 Bronco


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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:27:48 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam

my cam i have now for my new engine is a custom grind, but not too big. i
got it used from someone else. it is an ultradyne cam. of all the
companies i have ever talked to, ultradyne has been the most helpful even
though i was using a used part and not buying anything from them at this
time. plus everyone i know that runs them said they really woke up their
motors big time over their previous brand.

sleddog

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From: Bill Beyer[SMTP:bbeyer pacifier.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 1998 3:08 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam

Yeah just about every combination I plugged in called for a custom grind.

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> From: Sleddog
> To: 'perf-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: RE: FTE Perf - RE: FE Cam
> Date: Saturday, June 27, 1998 5:49 PM
>
> i didn't think the program was useful for me (all it told me for my new
> motor was to call for a custom cam grind) but i thought it may be more
> useful for smaller engines.
>
> sleddog
>
> ----------

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:44:35 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: FTE Perf - website update

for anyone following my pull truck build up, i have updated the pages
again. i have put some more info on the engine build and what i am
currently doing.

thank you
sleddog

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:25:43 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Perf - ADMIN: May archives online

List archives for May have been placed on the web site. Link is
based off the main page.

Later,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:36:54 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Colder Plug

i get this all the time. or "there is no listing for a 77 f150 with a
460"
or did you ever get a part like the lifetime warrenty on universal
joints
at parts america, break it and then be told you didn't get it there?
happens to me, they changed part style, but not number and i was refused
a
replacement. of course maybe they didn't like me getting new free
u-joints
every 2 weeks!

I call for parts on my Ford Lightning and get the same sh** what
year(they only made them from 93-95 with no difference) What motor(only
come with a 351W) Reg or Std cab(only come in reg) Short or long
bed(again only come w/short bed) Auto or manual(only come with autos). I
expect this from smaller stores but I often get this at Summits and
Jegs!
Western Auto sells craftsman now and if your number doesn't match then
you have to take it to sears. They change the numbers on individual
sockets compared to sockets sold in sets! Whats it matter it all goes
back to Craftsman anyways right?

Chris
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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:59:52 -0700
From: "Darryl A. Regan"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Sparkplugs

From: "George"
To: "Ford-performance"
Subject: FTE Perf - Sparkplugs
Date sent: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:08:11 -0700
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> I'd like to hear what some of the other 460 people run as plugs. I use....

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