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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list perf-list); Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: perf-list digest users Reply-to: perf-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: perf-list Digest V2000 #50 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts Performance, Hot-Rod and Custom Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe perf-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ perf-list Digest Thu, 20 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 050 In This Issue: Re: [trouble while towing] Re: 75 460 in a 87 350 Re: [trouble while towing] Re: [Re: [trouble while towing]] Re: [Re: 75 460 in a 87 350] Re: [Re: 75 460 & hyd's. Annual Pigeon Forge Supernationals ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ledski aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:20:57 EDT Subject: Re: [trouble while towing] In a message dated 04/20/00 11:03:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, listar ford-trucks.com writes: << What's happening is the extra load from the boat requires more fuel to pull it, but the O2 keeps seeing all that fuel and says "Too much".. turns on the light. Tim >> This sounds similar to a problem I have had with my 94 Explorer. Is there anything that can be done to help this? Other than buying a 94 F 350 Dually with a 460 (coming soon...June) I have replaced O2 sensors, plug, wires, tried cleaning the MAF. Having the AC or defroster on aggravates the condition. Would a new EGR sensor help? Throttle Position Sensor? Tim (dayton, oh) ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.comDate: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:16:15 EDT Subject: Re: 75 460 in a 87 350 In a message dated 4/20/00 6:44:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ManicMechanicNC netscape.net writes:<< Still has the hydraulics for the clutch and doesn't completely disengage the clutch no matter what we do. >> Sounds like broken fingers on the pressure plate, Had VW do this to me once. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:06:03 GMT Subject: Re: [trouble while towing] ><< What's happening > is the extra load from the boat requires more fuel to pull it, but the O2 > keeps seeing all that fuel and says "Too much".. turns on the light. > >This sounds similar to a problem I have had with my 94 Explorer. Is there >anything that can be done to help this? Other than buying a 94 F 350 Dually >with a 460 (coming soon...June) I have replaced O2 sensors, As Tim said, it doesn't matter what you replace, the computer needs a tweak to straigthten it out. Its not a faulty part, its a bug in the programming, check with the dealer to see if there's a TSB and if there is then set up an appointment and they'll re-flash your system for you to cure the problem. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 00 19:30:58 EDT From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: [Re: [trouble while towing]] Ledski aol.com wrote:> This sounds similar to a problem I have had with my 94 Explorer. Is there > anything that can be done to help this? Other than buying a 94 F 350 Dually > with a 460 (coming soon...June) That certainly ought to fix it! > I have replaced O2 sensors, plug, wires, > tried cleaning the MAF. Having the AC or defroster on aggravates the > condition. Would a new EGR sensor help? Throttle Position Sensor? Probably not; but I'd pull the codes and see what's being set and make a judgement from there. I've been seing a number of MAFs going just bad enough to lean out the mixture and trip a lean O2 code without a MAF code on Ford/Mazda vehicles lately. Know anyone with a truck like yours that'd swap MAFs for a weekend? ;-) One reason I'm leaning towards the MAF is the extra load from the compressor aggravating it. Make sure the duct work between the MAF and throttle body has no splits (remove and check in the pleats) and all clamps are tight; any air coming in after the MAF isn't being measured and leans things out. Tim T. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 00 19:44:28 EDT From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: [Re: 75 460 in a 87 350] JUMPINFORD aol.com wrote:> In a message dated 4/20/00 6:44:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > ManicMechanicNC netscape.net writes:> > << Still has the hydraulics for the clutch and doesn't > completely disengage the clutch no matter what we do. >> > > Sounds like broken fingers on the pressure plate, Had VW do this to me once. Good point, unfortunately I neglected to mention we had all new parts (except slave cyl) and the transmission out right now. :-) Hopefully tomorrow I'll correct the same condition on my truck (bad pilot bearing I believe), getting tired of having to put it in gear before starting it, switching it off every time I need to go from R to 1 or 1 to R or don't get it into 1 before completly stopping and holding the throttle, brake & clutch at the same time when I do get it in gear before the stop... Tim T ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 00 20:19:38 EDT From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: [Re: 75 460 & hyd's. Buck Shoff > Hi Tim, > There was a guy on the 80-96 list who had the same problem with a 86 > 150. He said he made an adjustable actuating rod to the master > cylinder. He indicated that it cleared it right up. Hmm.. will suggest that to Rodney (bay mate that's stuck with it) It seems to have way too much free travel before engaging, pedal doesn't return completely either. He's going to try a 5 speed release bearing as it's slightly longer from what he's been able to dig up. I'll update or post the 'fix' tomorrow or Tuesday as applicable. > I can dig up and > forward that post to you if you want. That's OK; thanks for the offer though! > The funny thing is, I have a 86 > 250 that had a similar problem. The clutch would release, but the pedal > would be real close to the floor. Real close. Usually indicates slight internal or external leakage in one of the two cylinders on most vehicles, but on the F-series of that era I've seen a bunch where the firewall was flexing when the clutch was applied and needed some re-inforcing to correct. > My master cylinder had a > adjustable rod, but adjusting it just preloaded the throwout bearing > against the pressure plate. I didn't like that, Me either! I hate pulling a tranny just for a bad R/B. > so I bit the bullet > this past weekend, and put in a new clutch, pp, throw out bearing, and > pilot. The clutch now works fine. Glad to hear it. Hope I can say the same about mine after this weekend; keeping my fingers crossed that it's just the pilot bearing as it's the only part I bought! > Now a question back at you. My > slave cylinder has enough residual pressure to keep the throw out > bearing just resting on the fingers of the pressure plate. It turns > with with the motor. Is this normal on a hydralic clutch?? That doesn't sound right to me.. I wont swear it shouldn't be but my gut says no. > The books I > have read say no free play on a hydralic clutch but is the bearing > supposed to turn all of the time??? Ought to be some free play in it; if you want I can poke around in the AllData to see if there's a procedure for adjusting the rod to see if this helps. > I don't have much experience with > these hydralic things, as you can tell. If anybody knows for sure, feel > free to come on in. > From your posts this week, all I can say is to > have a good day tomorrow and a good weekend. Had another laugh today.. Guy had a noise in the LF brake and pulled the pads OUT before driving 60 miles (with no brakes) to the shop! Needless to say it blew out the caliper piston and unfortunately cut the master cylinder piston seal too. Kicker was that the real problem was a missing caliper bolt letting the caliper rub against the wheel. Been an odd week. Tim T ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:23:22 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Annual Pigeon Forge Supernationals Ford Truck Enthusiasts makes an annual trek to the F100 Supernationals in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. This is the largest 48-79 Ford truck show in the world. Each year, list members and web site visitors meet there. This year, the non-profit Association of Ford Truck Enthusiasts will be meeting there. AFTE has several things planned, such as a breakfast and picnic. One of the members, Gary, asked me about a month ago to announce the event to the lists but it got misplaced in my to-do list. If you're interested in attending this event, there is a forum on the web site site message boards (events forum). ------------------------------ End of perf-list Digest V2000 #50 ********************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts Performance, Hot-Rod and Custom Truck List Send posts to perf-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe perf-list" in the subject of the message. Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com ---------------------------------------------------------- .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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