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perf-list Digest Thu, 20 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 050

In This Issue:
Re: [trouble while towing]
Re: 75 460 in a 87 350
Re: [trouble while towing]
Re: [Re: [trouble while towing]]
Re: [Re: 75 460 in a 87 350]
Re: [Re: 75 460 & hyd's.
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From: Ledski aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:20:57 EDT
Subject: Re: [trouble while towing]

In a message dated 04/20/00 11:03:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
listar ford-trucks.com writes:

<< What's happening
is the extra load from the boat requires more fuel to pull it, but the O2
keeps seeing all that fuel and says "Too much".. turns on the light.

Tim
>>
This sounds similar to a problem I have had with my 94 Explorer. Is there
anything that can be done to help this? Other than buying a 94 F 350 Dually
with a 460 (coming soon...June) I have replaced O2 sensors, plug, wires,
tried cleaning the MAF. Having the AC or defroster on aggravates the
condition. Would a new EGR sensor help? Throttle Position Sensor?

Tim (dayton, oh)

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From: JUMPINFORDaol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:16:15 EDT
Subject: Re: 75 460 in a 87 350

In a message dated 4/20/00 6:44:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ManicMechanicNCnetscape.net writes:

<< Still has the hydraulics for the clutch and doesn't
completely disengage the clutch no matter what we do. >>

Sounds like broken fingers on the pressure plate, Had VW do this to me once.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:06:03 GMT
Subject: Re: [trouble while towing]

><< What's happening
> is the extra load from the boat requires more fuel to pull it, but the O2

> keeps seeing all that fuel and says "Too much".. turns on the light.
>

>This sounds similar to a problem I have had with my 94 Explorer. Is there

>anything that can be done to help this? Other than buying a 94 F 350 Dually

>with a 460 (coming soon...June) I have replaced O2 sensors,

As Tim said, it doesn't matter what you replace, the computer needs a tweak
to straigthten it out. Its not a faulty part, its a bug in the programming,
check with the dealer to see if there's a TSB and if there is then set up an
appointment and they'll re-flash your system for you to cure the problem.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: 21 Apr 00 19:30:58 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: [trouble while towing]]

Ledskiaol.com wrote:

> This sounds similar to a problem I have had with my 94 Explorer. Is there
> anything that can be done to help this? Other than buying a 94 F 350 Dually

> with a 460 (coming soon...June)

That certainly ought to fix it!

> I have replaced O2 sensors, plug, wires,
> tried cleaning the MAF. Having the AC or defroster on aggravates the
> condition. Would a new EGR sensor help? Throttle Position Sensor?

Probably not; but I'd pull the codes and see what's being set and make a
judgement from there. I've been seing a number of MAFs going just bad enough
to lean out the mixture and trip a lean O2 code without a MAF code on
Ford/Mazda vehicles lately. Know anyone with a truck like yours that'd swap
MAFs for a weekend? ;-) One reason I'm leaning towards the MAF is the extra
load from the compressor aggravating it. Make sure the duct work between the
MAF and throttle body has no splits (remove and check in the pleats) and all
clamps are tight; any air coming in after the MAF isn't being measured and
leans things out.

Tim T.


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Date: 21 Apr 00 19:44:28 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: 75 460 in a 87 350]

JUMPINFORDaol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 4/20/00 6:44:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> ManicMechanicNCnetscape.net writes:
>
> << Still has the hydraulics for the clutch and doesn't
> completely disengage the clutch no matter what we do. >>
>
> Sounds like broken fingers on the pressure plate, Had VW do this to me
once.

Good point, unfortunately I neglected to mention we had all new parts (except
slave cyl) and the transmission out right now. :-) Hopefully tomorrow I'll
correct the same condition on my truck (bad pilot bearing I believe), getting
tired of having to put it in gear before starting it, switching it off every
time I need to go from R to 1 or 1 to R or don't get it into 1 before
completly stopping and holding the throttle, brake & clutch at the same time
when I do get it in gear before the stop...

Tim T

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Date: 21 Apr 00 20:19:38 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: 75 460 & hyd's.

Buck Shoff sktc.net> wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> There was a guy on the 80-96 list who had the same problem with a 86
> 150. He said he made an adjustable actuating rod to the master
> cylinder. He indicated that it cleared it right up.

Hmm.. will suggest that to Rodney (bay mate that's stuck with it) It seems to
have way too much free travel before engaging, pedal doesn't return completely
either. He's going to try a 5 speed release bearing as it's slightly longer
from what he's been able to dig up. I'll update or post the 'fix' tomorrow or
Tuesday as applicable.

> I can dig up and
> forward that post to you if you want.

That's OK; thanks for the offer though!

> The funny thing is, I have a 86
> 250 that had a similar problem. The clutch would release, but the pedal
> would be real close to the floor. Real close.

Usually indicates slight internal or external leakage in one of the two
cylinders on most vehicles, but on the F-series of that era I've seen a bunch
where the firewall was flexing when the clutch was applied and needed some
re-inforcing to correct.

> My master cylinder had a
> adjustable rod, but adjusting it just preloaded the throwout bearing
> against the pressure plate. I didn't like that,

Me either! I hate pulling a tranny just for a bad R/B.

> so I bit the bullet
> this past weekend, and put in a new clutch, pp, throw out bearing, and
> pilot. The clutch now works fine.

Glad to hear it. Hope I can say the same about mine after this weekend;
keeping my fingers crossed that it's just the pilot bearing as it's the only
part I bought!

> Now a question back at you. My
> slave cylinder has enough residual pressure to keep the throw out
> bearing just resting on the fingers of the pressure plate. It turns
> with with the motor. Is this normal on a hydralic clutch??

That doesn't sound right to me.. I wont swear it shouldn't be but my gut says
no.

> The books I
> have read say no free play on a hydralic clutch but is the bearing
> supposed to turn all of the time???

Ought to be some free play in it; if you want I can poke around in the AllData
to see if there's a procedure for adjusting the rod to see if this helps.

> I don't have much experience with
> these hydralic things, as you can tell. If anybody knows for sure, feel
> free to come on in.
> From your posts this week, all I can say is to
> have a good day tomorrow and a good weekend.

Had another laugh today.. Guy had a noise in the LF brake and pulled the pads
OUT before driving 60 miles (with no brakes) to the shop! Needless to say it
blew out the caliper piston and unfortunately cut the master cylinder piston
seal too. Kicker was that the real problem was a missing caliper bolt letting
the caliper rub against the wheel. Been an odd week.

Tim T

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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:23:22 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Annual Pigeon Forge Supernationals

Ford Truck Enthusiasts makes an annual trek to the
F100 Supernationals in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. This
is the largest 48-79 Ford truck show in the world.
Each year, list members and web site visitors meet
there. This year, the non-profit Association of
Ford Truck Enthusiasts will be meeting there. AFTE
has several things planned, such as a breakfast and
picnic. One of the members, Gary, asked me about a
month ago to announce the event to the lists but it
got misplaced in my to-do list.

If you're interested in attending this event, there
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