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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list perf-list); Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:36:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: perf-list digest users Reply-to: perf-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: perf-list Digest V2000 #45 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts Performance, Hot-Rod and Custom Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe perf-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ perf-list Digest Fri, 14 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 045 In This Issue: Re: Tranny Quarter Mile Time Re: Quarter Mile Time ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "wish" Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:45:22 GMT Subject: Re: Tranny >I have a 1984 F-150 4x4 >351W/T-18/NP-208 >the tranny is bulletproof and excellent but i hate it for driveing around town and on the highway,it drives like a tractor. Interesting analogy, most tractors I've played with haven't been too tough to drive around ... but then I don't drive them in town either ;) >my question is if i found a used c-6. wouldn't the final gear be the same as the one in the 4 speed, 1:1 ?? Yup. >also the 351W puts out around 270hp >i have done a little to it no internal work just intake and carb,ignition. > Uhm, I'd debate that 270hp rating ... heck the Lightning 351 is only 260 advertised ... to really be at 270hp you'd need to do a cam and some head work to get the compression up ... anyway not the issue, the real problem is torque, that's what rips your tranny apart ... and you could be near that for torque rating ... >will the aod handle that my friends seems to do very well. > The 302 is a lot weaker motor than the 351, many who are "performance oriented" have questioned the AOD's ability to hold up to a 351 ...others question the E4OD as well, though I think if you get a newer one it will last better, the problem is cost, they are really expensive, and expensive to fix too ... >it also has 33" tires. >that i probably will trade for 31's > What gears are you running in the axles ? Using 33's is kind of like a small over drive right now ... though it affects all gears, not just the top one... a 31 will be less of an od ...but... >i am getting 9.5 mpg. > Because of the larger tires being harder to start and stop, if you're driving around in town going to a smaller tire might make the mileage go up with no other changes. An automatic isn't quite as efficient with the gears, so going to an overdrive for in-town driving will have very little positive effect on your mileage, though your arm/leg may not be as tired at the end of the day ... >and NEED and overdrive. > >that is can get used for under 300$ >then rebuild. > That's not likely an Overdrive tranny ... also there are issues with shift linkages, xfer case adapters, driveshaft lengths, cooling the tranny ... any number of things associated with it, its not going to be just a weekend swap (unless its a long weekend and you have ALL the little parts around) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:25:08 -0500 From: Ezekial Subject: Quarter Mile Time I was "derrick galstar.com" until I switched ISPs, in case anyone remembered me. I thought I might post my first drag race times here for you guys to see. I think I did pretty good for a mild motor in a truck that weighs like 3tons.. run #1 is the only one without the chip and the others are with..... website http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.galstar.com/~derrick/index.html 93 F-150 SC,4x4,351,auburn posi added recently get back to me on anything that looks bad, other then my bad reaction time. a couple were good but the tires broke loose to much.. run #1 1.3096 reaction 2.5267 60ft 7.0686 330ft 10.8299 1/8 65.5 mph 14.1084 1000et 74.38 1000mph 16.9938 1/4 that was my first ever drag, plus my chip wasn't in yet run #2 1.094 reaction 2.4815 60ft 6.8952 330ft 10.6057 1/8 66.13 mph 13.8614 1000et 74.71 1000mph 16.6473 1/4 80.51 run #3 (best)worst reaction 1.2798 reaction 2.4248 60ft 6.7839 330ft 10.4607 1/8 66.68 13.6915 1000et 75.27 1000mph 16.4551 1/4 81.19 mph run#4 blablabla 16.527 1/4 80.90 mph ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.com Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 16:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Quarter Mile Time At 02:25 AM 15:04:2000 -0500, Ezekial wrote: >other then my bad reaction >time. a couple were good but the tires broke loose to much.. >run #1 >1.3096 reaction You should be leaving when you see the second to last yellow, that is if they're using .500 secs between lights...you could also try deep staging, but some tracks don't like you to do that... >2.5267 60ft Seems OK if you're spinning the wheels... >7.0686 330ft >10.8299 1/8 >65.5 mph >14.1084 1000et >74.38 1000mph >16.9938 1/4 >that was my first ever drag, plus my chip wasn't in yet Not too bad, everything seems to be in order so far... Snip... >run #3 (best)worst reaction >1.2798 reaction >2.4248 60ft Didn't spin as much this time, did ya. Try lowering the air pressure by about 5psi, don't worry to much about the reaction time until you can get the truck to react a little more consistantly. One way to do this is to load the suspension, ie- powerbrake. Don't try to get to max rpm while doing this, You'll also break less rearend parts. One other thing, the ET clock starts running when the light turns green. So these runs are fairly stout for a Truck.... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ End of perf-list Digest V2000 #45 ********************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts Performance, Hot-Rod and Custom Truck List Send posts to perf-list ....To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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