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perf-list Digest Sat, 11 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 024

In This Issue:
Re: Ford Truck Kills
Re: REAR END SWAP!!!
Cross posted Axil Blasphemy!
Re: Cross posted Axil Blasphemy!
Re: Oil Pan Removal
Re: Engine Temps
Access

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:42:31 -0600
From: George Ramsower stic.net>
Subject: Re: Ford Truck Kills

I believe this(bracket racing) used to be and still is referred to as
"Dialing In your times" and people mis-interpret it as telling the
speedway what you're ET is going to be. >> as if we could guess it, or
see into the future.

Regardless of that, the clock has ALWAYS started counting when the
light turns green.

And that IS a really quick pickup!!

> Anyway the only racing my Dad and my gf's Dad know anything
> about is heads
> up, and I know its a loss there ... but I was under the impression
> (apparently wrong) that there was some form where you just
> tried to get as
> close to the time you said you were gonna and it didn't matter if you
> red-lighted or not 'cause it doesn't affect the time it takes
> to get down
> the track ...
>
> Anyone wanna fill me in on what the "new" racing stuff is all about ?
>



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From: Mike Morton woodward.com>
Subject: Re: REAR END SWAP!!!
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 06:40:38 -0600

>Take the 31 spline axles and dropout section out of
>the housing that is too big and put them in your old
>housing. You wouldn't even have to change the backing
>plates and brakes. And you'd have a darn stout rear
>axle.
>
>Shane

Wouldn't he still need to have the axles shortened and resplined so they
would be the right length for the shorter housing?
Mike
55 F100/460

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From: "Chris Samuel" email.msn.com>
Subject: Cross posted Axil Blasphemy!
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:18:21 -0800

Lately I've been passively looking around for a D60 Ft axil for my 75 F250.
Just scoaping out the prices... I ain't got the money right now)-:
I am stunned to see the prices that these things go for! The typical
nationally advertised price is US$3100.00, up, in a rebuilt state. Actually
that is not a bad price for a complete ready to run Front axil, until you
compare it to one for a Chebropuke, which from the same vendor is only
US$1700.00! This differential in price is not reflective of a quality
difference in the differentials, they were both made by DANA! So, is it that
there is just so many more Chebropukes out there? I don't believe so... Of
course more of the Fords are still running!, but still...
Any-waze, I got to thinking (a dangerous thing) I could buy a Got
Mechanic?, Dana 60 and simply cut it apart and swap the tubes, axils, etc.
from side to side and weld it back together! I' know how and have access to
the correct machinery. Shoot, I could have it done and still not have
$2100.00 in the thing! Sure I wouldn't have the high pinion set up, but then
I don't now with the D44 that is in the truck, and I don't think that it's
worth a grand in this application... Plus I'd get the Generally Moronic disk
break set up, which I'm sad to say are a better design overall, then my
beloved Ford axil would have came with.
So, any axil gurus out there?
Just why, other then the brand loyalty issue, can't this be done?

For the Purest, or Restorer, I can see where this idea is blasphemy, and I
can understand it, on that level too. However figuring the amount of
surgery that the axil would endure it would no longer be a Goat Manure part
but a truly custom machined part for a Ford! And I am not restoring this
truck, just building a solid Wheeler out of it, so, I could live with it.

Muel



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From: Sleddog epix.net>
Subject: Re: Cross posted Axil Blasphemy!
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:37:44 -0500

Chris,

Sounds to me like what you should do is find a truck, with the axle you
want underneath. I just sold my 79 F350, with a 460 for $1,000. Even
rebuilding the front dana 60 in it would not come close to the price you
quoted for a done axle. The one I sold, had a dana 80 under the rear too.
Lotsa good parts there. I think, if you look around you can find a deal
that makes sense to buy a whole truck, rather than a rebuilt axle, or
pulling tubes out of a chev axle.

Kevin

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From: Chris Samuel[SMTP:fourmuelz email.msn.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 12:18 PM
To: A Perf-List; A Offroad-List; A 61-79 FORD TRUCKS
Subject: [perf-list] Cross posted Axil Blasphemy!

Lately I've been passively looking around for a D60 Ft axil for my 75
F250.
Just scoaping out the prices... I ain't got the money right now)-:

MAJOR SNIPPPAGE----------

For the Purest, or Restorer, I can see where this idea is blasphemy, and I
can understand it, on that level too. However figuring the amount of
surgery that the axil would endure it would no longer be a Goat Manure part
but a truly custom machined part for a Ford! And I am not restoring this
truck, just building a solid Wheeler out of it, so, I could live with it.

Muel



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From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Oil Pan Removal
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:22:25 CST

Roger,
Good decision. Now you can rebuild at your own pace and do it the way
you want to, the first time. It's not really that difficult, the first one
I rebuilt, I did it with little more experience than you. Just take your
time, do your research, and always measure at least twice. Don't be afraid
to disassemble the thing several times (you'll need to) before you finish.

Oh, a couple more things.
Be sure to have your block checked for cracks before you spend money on
machine work.
Have the cylinders bored BEFORE you order pistons, so you'll know the
proper size. Yes, this is the voice of experience.


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From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Temps
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:26:56 CST


>
>Sounds like a flow problem not really an engine related one, unless you put
>a 160deg thermostat in or something

No, the point was, unknown to me the thermostat had been removed, therefore
the coolant was flowing full bore all the time.

>*shrug* oh well, if your winters are only 45 degrees then I don't think you
>have a lot to complain about on it ;)
>

Ever driven a convertible in 45 degree weather? Believe me, it gets chilly.
But you have a point.
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From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Access
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:17:44 -0500

Ken writes: >>Azie will finally have access to the web site, though in an
indirect way!<<

Thanks Ken,but I've set my retirement date, so if I have access, then I
will have to turn loose the big $'s for a unit at the house, which I
definately plan to do. I'll be free of this place before I see you all in
PF... I won't tell you when just yet, but I'll say a big good-bye before I
sign off for the last time and unsub*cribe from the multiple list I'm on.
Gotta get that Home Computer installed and going before I do that.
Withdrawl is something I don't want to go through..

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al




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