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perf-list Digest Fri, 03 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 018

In This Issue:
Re: Fuel Injection
Re: 460 swap
Re: total performance
Re: total performance
Re: Fuel Injection
Radiators and V8s

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From: "JAMES MERLO" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Injection
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 18:29:29 -0600

Several choices as I have investigated
1)Throttle body injection using all parts for $1200 from Turbo City is the
easiest way to do this.Look at the Turbo City web page, their info is like
a primer on fuel injection.
2)Find an 87-92 big block GM pickup or suburban and move the fuel injection
to the 460
3)Port injection: my approach was to get a wiring harness from a mass air
flow mustang and get the parts. Then drill the manifold to add fuel
injectors, add the fuel rail, fuel regulator fuel pump, supply and return
lines, buy dual 70mm throttle bodies from edelbrock, buy a large enough
mass air flow meter (contact Proflow at their website) and then buy a
eec-iv calibrator so the tables can be modified and then read the web site
called sn95.com mustang forum on modifying. The cost about $2800. You
could instead by your computer and wiring harness from speedpro. Another
good site is Force Fuel injection.

Or you could pay someone to do all of this for you and it costs even more.


4)Get a fuel injection system from an late model 460. My only hang ups
with this for me was that I couldn't find any late model 460s around St.
Louis (I had an unbelieveably hard time locating ANY 460 around St.Louis
AND even if I could, there was the head issue. When I was looking for a
460 to rebuild I was also looking at manifolds, Edelbrock says their
manifolds don;t fit "late model heads - 87 and later". The new heads
Edelbrock is selling also say they don't work for "late models". So it
seems like something was done with the "late model" heads. I suppose
everything could be stripped off of the late model 460 and put on an
earlier model head (i.e drilling the manifold for the injectors) and then
some fabrication for the way the throttle body mounts to the old manifold
(it is side draft mounted on the fuel injected manifold). Then there is
the issue of needing the "7 wire distributer" - this is needed so the ford
eec knows where the crank is for timing - this would also be needed to
adapt to the mustang system.

My money is going to be stripping the throttle body off of the big block GM
from 87-92. There is enough info on the Turbo City page to figure out what
to do. I also ran across a couple of other aritcles on how to do this - I
pass them along later if there is a desire.

I hope this was of interest.

Jim


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> From: OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell oaielectronics.com>
> To: perf-list ford-trucks.com; 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [perf-list] Fuel Injection
> Date: Friday, March 03, 2000 7:22 AM
>
> Hi All,
> Just wondering is there a fuel injection setup that can be added to a
460???
> What would be the most likely donor????
>
> Paul Rozell
> 65 F100 460 C6
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From: "JAMES MERLO" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 460 swap
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 18:31:21 -0600

For my 62 F350 I got one from TransDapt that was a crossmember type and
used ford motor mounts. I can't remember the price

Jim

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> From: OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell oaielectronics.com>
> To: perf-list ford-trucks.com; 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [perf-list] 460 swap
> Date: Friday, March 03, 2000 7:28 AM
>
> Hi all,
> A few weeks ago the subject came up about motor mounts that would help
swap
> in a 460 into a 60 ish Ford truck. I just received the PAW big catalog
and
> in it found motor mounts and tranny mounts for swaps. The catalog listed
a
> mount up to 64 and one for 65 and up. They also had cross members. If any
> one is interested I can get the part numbers from my catalog. The mounts
for
> the 65 and up was 113.00(US) something in that ball park.
>
> Paul Rozell
> 65 F100 460 C6
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From: "JAMES MERLO" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: total performance
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 18:34:02 -0600

I have a number for them at work - I will try to remember to get it Monday.
They are in Michigan around Detroit - I think it is Clinton Township

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> From: Sleddog epix.net>
> To: 'perf-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: [perf-list] Re: total performance
> Date: Friday, March 03, 2000 4:24 PM
>
> Sorry. I never heard of them. I am interested now too, if someone can
> find info on them. Maybe they are out of business, or out as a few other

> places I do business with....at the races!
>
> Kevin
>
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> From: jniolon uss.com[SMTP:jniolon uss.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 4:16 PM
> Subject: [perf-list] total performance
>
> found a reference in Hot Rod to a company called Total Performance that
> does some 460 cu in work... they listed a phone number, but there is no
> answer. There are several "Total Performance" listings on the net but
they
> are for T-buckets and motorcycles....
>
> Anyone got an phone number or contact for this company ??? Sleddog, you
> should know these guys by first name ???
>
> TIA
>
> john
>
>
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:46:04 -0800
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: Re: total performance

I have a number, 810-468-3673 . It's been over six months since I called
them and I believe they were located in Michigan, but I'm not sure.
I do remember that they didn't have a receptionist and sometimes there
was no answer and sometimes the phone was busy for hours. If this
sounds like your company, I would keep trying the number & give them
lots of time.

-- Don



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> Sorry. I never heard of them. I am interested now too, if someone can
> find info on them. Maybe they are out of business, or out as a few other
> places I do business with....at the races!
>
> Kevin
>
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> From: jniolon uss.com[SMTP:jniolon uss.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 4:16 PM
> Subject: [perf-list] total performance
>
> found a reference in Hot Rod to a company called Total Performance that
> does some 460 cu in work... they listed a phone number, but there is no
> answer. There are several "Total Performance" listings on the net but they
> are for T-buckets and motorcycles....
>
> Anyone got an phone number or contact for this company ??? Sleddog, you
> should know these guys by first name ???
>
> TIA
>
> john
>
>
>
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From: Bogginf350 aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:33:39 EST
Subject: Re: Fuel Injection

I have acces to a 460fi out of a 92 ford van its the multiport system. i am
planning on performing a swap into a 79 ford with a c6. But if i decide not
to do it "no time to do it" i will sell the complete motor with all the
wiring and computer.
josh davis

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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 08:54:35 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
Subject: Radiators and V8s

Has anyone tried using a 4.0 Explorer radiator with a 302-V8?

The radiator for my 2.9 has taken a turn for the worse, and I need to
replace it. The explorer 4.0 radiator makes a good swap. There are two
kinds, one with a transmission cooler and one without. The price
difference is about $55.

Now, if I get the radiator with the transmission cooler, would this be
302-V8 friendly?

I called Advanced Adaptors, and they said that this has been known to be
done, but no one has ever given them any feedback on it.

Any ideas welcome...

Adam



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