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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list perf-list); Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:36:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:36:32 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: perf-list digest users Reply-to: perf-list Subject: perf-list Digest V2000 #16 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts Performance, Hot-Rod and Custom Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe perf-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ perf-list Digest Wed, 01 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 016 In This Issue: Re: smog pump shorter belt smog pump cast valve covers Re: smog pump shorter belt Polishing Re: Fuel Lines 460 Fans! Your help please Re: Fuel Lines ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based email!!! Re: smog pump Re: 460 Fans! Your help please C:\CoolProgs\Pretty Park.exe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Hart" Subject: Re: smog pump shorter belt Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:00:50 -0600 > My idea, you must be really desparate for power if you do that! Plus its > going to be tough racing without power steering. When my ps box broke last > year I had to do without power to the left for a week.. man did I grow > some muscles :-) > I suppose a manual steering rack would be too simple of an explanation as to why he didn't need the p/s ? :) I always wanted the manual steering, but since I can't give up my V8 when I'm racin (yes my car turns both ways thankyouverymuch) I'd better stick to power steering :) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish ------------------------------ From: "Mike McPhillips" Subject: smog pump Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:44:15 -0500 I would really like to see pics from the article as I cannot see how the serpentine belt could be routed without a p/s pump & no a/c compressor. I do see now that yes, the pump can be eliminated if you keep the a/c but I would much rather have p/s than a/c! My 67 stang had manual steering... uuuggghhh! m/s never again! mike http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.homestead.com/mcfordmotorsports/home.html ------------------------------ From: "Mike McPhillips" Subject: cast valve covers Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:45:49 -0500 try the black "wrinkle" paint made by vht and then sand the fins. I did this to a couple different sets of sb ford v/c and it looks great. plus the black hides the dirt. Mike http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.homestead.com/mcfordmotorsports/home.html ------------------------------ From: "James Steele" Subject: Re: smog pump shorter belt Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:19:05 CST The whole idea is to replace the belts at the "track" and replace the original for the drive home! > >My idea, you must be really desparate for power if you do that! Plus its >going to be tough racing without power steering. When my ps box broke last >year I had to do without power to the left for a week.. man did I grow >some muscles :-) > ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:24:45 -0800 From: scott Subject: Polishing >I'd like to clean up the cast aluminum valve covers >Media blasting will not polish the surface. In fact I >believe it will 'rough' it up more. Ok if you want a dull finish. >If you are more "hands on" and like the polished finish, you >may be better off in the long run to polish the valve covers yourself. I just did this on the M/T valve covers on my 428.First I sand blasted them with fine sand.Mine had many coats of black krinkle finish on them that the glass beads would not touch.I then glass beaded them with the finest beads I could find.I then polished them up. BTW I DO NOT have a good sandblaster.The commercial one I use at work would have blown holes right through the aluminum!!! Try it first on the back side of the cover!!!! They came out nice. ------------------------------ From: "david" Subject: Re: Fuel Lines Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:52:00 -0000 I know of a guy who has a camaro with f.i. on it.he used steel lines with common compression fittings.Been on it for years,but it is a chubbie. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sleddog To: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 3:42 PM Subject: [perf-list] Re: Fuel Lines > Look into aluminum/steel tubing. Summit sells 25 feet of 5/16" steel line > for under $20, nice anodized Russel aluminum line is a few dollars more. > Also get correct for the application mounts, so you don't vibrate a hole > in the tube against the frame or something like that. The steel is a > better choice for a non-race vehicle IMHO, as it will not fatigue crack > under normal use. > > For the sections of line, that need to be flexable try Flex-Lock hose > (Russel, i think). These lines are about 2/3 the cost of stainless braided > lines. They do not have any braiding, but usually come in blue or red or > such color. > > The big cost, as I found out when I did my fuel system from tank to carb, > was the fittings. I am redoing it now, putting -8 AN lines from regulater > to carb, and putting on a dominator, and a second fuel pressure gauge. I > am reusing old lines and fittings as much as possible, but still the $$$ > adds up fast. > > If these options are too pricey, try the junk yard. Edelbroke has a > website, check it out and maybe the lines you saw are on there. But I warn > you - if they said it was affordable on TV, i doubt it is. They seem to > have (Hot Rod TV and such shows and magazines) a distorted view of what > people can really afford. > > Kevin > > ---------- > From: ALLEN COLLINS[SMTP:7X30WATERS > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 9:48 AM > To: Perf-List > Subject: [perf-list] Fuel Lines > > I have a 1986 F-150 that has an older 302 engine with a carb in it. I have > access to a EFI unit that I would like to install. The hard plastic high > pressure fuel lines from the factory have been butchered from the swap over > (I bought the truck this way) and I am looking for a good (cheap) source > for > high pressure fuel lines. I noticed that Edlebrock had some type of hose > on > one of the shade tree mechanic shows, but not sure what it is. Can I get > this fuel line from the dealership? I have tried aftermarket and parts > stores and all they want to sell me is braided line. Looks great and is > very functional but expensive. > > Any suggestions? With the price of gas sure would like to make the switch > to EFI. > > Thanks in advance > > Allen > Lubbock TX > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe perf-list" in the body of the > message. > > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe perf-list" in the body of the > message. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:54:13 -0800 From: Adam McLaughlin Subject: 460 Fans! Your help please Well, now I am getting around to picking up the 460 F250. She's carbeurated, and with a C6. Turns out that she has no power because the owner messed with it. Trying to get it to pass smog, he put in new plugs and wires, and a new distributor. Hmmm.. Right after that he reports that it starts and runs, although it has no power. So, what is teh firing order and timing of this engine? 1983 F-250 3/4 Ton, 460, with a C6. Carbeurated too! I think it's probably 2V, but could be a 4v. Anything else that you could contribute to make this easier would be appreciated! Thanks in Advance, Adam ------------------------------ From: Sleddog Subject: Re: Fuel Lines Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:24:17 -0500 Those kind of fittings are cheaper. It is the AN fittings that cost the $$. Kevin ---------- From: david[SMTP:scatpack Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:52 PM To: perf-list Subject: [perf-list] Re: Fuel Lines I know of a guy who has a camaro with f.i. on it.he used steel lines with common compression fittings.Been on it for years,but it is a chubbie. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:52:14 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based email!!! Ford Truck Enthusiasts is pleased to announce the addition of an all new free feature for our users! FREE WEB BASED EMAIL ---- yourname We've registered the ford-trucks.net domain for email address use. An automated sign up page will be added this weekend and the mail service will be activated then. This is a full blown, ***fast*** web based email package, that includes pretty much everything Hotmail, Yahoo mail, etc have and more. It cost us plenty, but I think everyone will enjoy using it and we've always had the policy of offering more to our users as we can afford it. Plus an added benefit, a vanity address perfect for all us Ford truck lovers. AFTE club members will receive as part of their membership an enhanced version of the web mail, which has increased mail quotas and spell checking, plus outgoing email from AFTE members will have their member number appended to list postings! The public sign-up will be this weekend, but now is your chance to grab a desired address, on a first come first serve basis. If you would like to have an address, please send the following to kpayne Name: Current email address: Desired email address ( Desired password: Year and model of Ford trucks you own (we're going to use part of the mail database for a registry!). You'll receive complete usage instructions this weekend. DO NOT SEND THE ABOVE INFORMATION TO THIS LIST!!!! Later, Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: Re: smog pump Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:15:42 -0800 > I would really like to see pics from the article as I cannot > see how the > serpentine belt could be routed without a p/s pump & no a/c > compressor. I > do see now that yes, the pump can be eliminated if you keep > the a/c but I > would much rather have p/s than a/c! My 67 stang had manual > steering... > uuuggghhh! m/s never again! > mike Why would you want to bypass the ac pump? Tom H ------------------------------ From: "William S. Hart" Subject: Re: 460 Fans! Your help please Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:37:33 -0600 > Turns out that she has no power because the owner messed with it. Trying > to get it to pass smog, he put in new plugs and wires, and a new > distributor. Hmmm.. Right after that he reports that it starts and runs, > although it has no power. > > So, what is teh firing order and timing of this engine? Not sure what the firing order is, but I'll bet its cast into the intake manifold just in front of the carb ... And then you can go about setting the timing, likely he timed it back to less than 6deg, which is kind of a minimum for most Fords that I've worked with (no 460's though) ... to set it "right" try using a vaccuum gauge, set it for maximum vaccuum (set the idle down after it bumps up a few times) and then take it for a spin, you may have to back it off a couple degrees from that, but it'll be a good starting point (I'm guessing you'll end up at 11 or 12 this way)... > 1983 F-250 3/4 Ton, 460, with a C6. Carbeurated too! I think it's > probably 2V, but could be a 4v. > I'd be surprised if it was a 2V, but anything's possible ... if you use the vaccuum gauge for the timing you can use it for the carb tuning too ... > Anything else that you could contribute to make this easier would be > appreciated! > I'd also pull the plugs and check the gap on them, sometimes people don't realize you need to gap them ... I think .042" is a standard for the Duraspark systems ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:35:28 -0500 From: "Mike McPhillips" Subject: C:\CoolProgs\Pretty Park.exe Test: Pretty Park.exe :) Mike McPhillips -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: application/octet-stream -- File: Pretty Park.exe.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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