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fordtrucks-digest DigestVolume 97 : Issue 120

Today's Topics:

All this and still HOT!! [gusinks ruraltel.net (Clark Gustafs]
Re: All this and still HOT!! [Gardner ]
vey funny John Strauss [calvinry argohouston.com (Robert Co]
Re: Disc brake conversion problems ["George Shepherd"
Re: Disc brake conversion problems ["JAMES MERLO"
Re: All this and still HOT!! [KEVIN ]
Heater Core Problem on a 1966 Ford F [Keith Srb ]
Re: All this and still HOT!! [daffin satcom.whit.org (Mike ) ]
Re: Heater Core Problem on a 1966 Fo ["George Shepherd"
HELP [Rocknjestr aol.com ]
Re: ALL THIS and overheating too... [daffin satcom.whit.org (Mike ) ]
Any 30's early 40's truck owners [Ken Payne ]
EconoLine Van Meet [TwoPaw ]
1967 backup lights [DC Beatty
disc brake problems... fixed (sort o [Ken Payne ]
RE: ID 390? [mcat epix.net ]
econoline trucks [mturner ais.net ]
Re: Heater Core Problem on a 1966 Fo ["Jim Strigas"
Re: All this and still HOT!! [Daver ]
Re: All this and still HOT!! [JIM HURD ]
Re: vey funny John Strauss [Daver ]
TruckFest ["Jerry Dean" ]

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 07:50:50 -0500
From: gusinks ruraltel.net (Clark Gustafson)
To: "Fordnatics Mailing List" ,
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Subject: All this and still HOT!!
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Hello its me Griz,
As you recall (well some of you might), I have a 73' F-100 w/302 cu in. I
have replaced the radiator with a new on, the thermostat (with a new 160
degree one) and the temp sender with a mechanical unit, and installed a
flex fan, and still the damn thing persist in heating up to about 260+ when
I am running on the highway at about 70mph for about 10-15 miles. It
hasn't blown water out.....yet. I have recently replaced the timing chain
and in doing so I had the "mechanic" check the water pump for wear, he
informed me that "the shaft was not loose and felt [tight]", he did not
remove the rear cover to inspect the fins though (DAH!!). I can see the
water moving in the radiator when the thermostat opens, but I am not really
sure if it is moving up to par. I am now in the process of having the water
pump replaced with another OEM rebuilt unit (for $20 it was worth the try)
and FINALLY my question is what is left if this don't work, the truck runs
a little rich if that helps, I plan to convert it over to Electronic Ign.
soon too. As I have said in the past the darn engine runs much to strong to
toss it aside or give up, so please help me if you can ( I am requesting
HELP not discussion on the theory of liquid-dynamics guys!! LOL) I am
planning a 1500+ trip and need this thing to make it, thanks for all your
help!!! Griz

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 08:59:45 -0500
From: Gardner
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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Clark Gustafson wrote:
>
> Hello its me Griz,
> As you recall (well some of you might), I have a 73' F-100 w/302 cu in. I
> have replaced the radiator with a new on, the thermostat (with a new 160
> degree one) and the temp sender with a mechanical unit, and installed a
> flex fan, and still the damn thing persist in heating up to about 260+ when
> I am running on the highway at about 70mph for about 10-15 miles. It
> hasn't blown water out.....yet. I have recently replaced the timing chain
> and in doing so I had the "mechanic" check the water pump for wear, he
> informed me that "the shaft was not loose and felt [tight]", he did not
> remove the rear cover to inspect the fins though (DAH!!). I can see the
> water moving in the radiator when the thermostat opens, but I am not really
> sure if it is moving up to par. I am now in the process of having the water
> pump replaced with another OEM rebuilt unit (for $20 it was worth the try)
> and FINALLY my question is what is left if this don't work, the truck runs
> a little rich if that helps, I plan to convert it over to Electronic Ign.
> soon too. As I have said in the past the darn engine runs much to strong to
> toss it aside or give up, so please help me if you can ( I am requesting
> HELP not discussion on the theory of liquid-dynamics guys!! LOL) I am
> planning a 1500+ trip and need this thing to make it, thanks for all your
> help!!! Griz
>
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Maybe you have a bad head gasket? Take a compression test! Only thinkg
left I know to do! Good luck!

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 08:06:18 -0700
From: calvinry argohouston.com (Robert Cook)
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: vey funny John Strauss
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Well John I guess it would take one of you Texans to think I wanted you
to lay the whole engine on the office xerox machine. If it will keep you
from getting in trouble you can take the valve covers off. I would still
like you to lay the rest of the engine on there and get me a copy of
that label. What if I said please, would that make a difference.

Touche' from Houston Texas,
Robert Cook
Calvinry argohouston.com

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 08:33:55 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
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A 4 drum MC and a 2 disk and 2 drum MC should look very different. The MC
for a split system will have resevours of different sizes, with the larger
going to the disk brakes. The MC for a 4 drum system will have resevours
that are the same size.

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> From: Ken Payne
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: Disc brake conversion problems
> Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 8:58 PM
>
> At 07:55 PM 7/18/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >It isn't the longer hoses, its the bigger volume in the caliper bores
than
> >in the shoe type bores. You need a step bore MC for disk &drum brake
> >combinations. It has a much bigger resivour for the disks.
> >
>
> We picked up a rebuilt MC from Autozone, asked for a 76. It looked
> no different than the 68 unit. I assumed internally it was different.
> It has the lines coming out the right side, if that means anything
> (I know that some have the lines on the left). Perhaps the unit they
> gave me isn't correct? Don't know, but I've got to help my friend
> fix this. I told him "trust me, I've done it before and it was easy".
> Now several dollars later he's giving me that "you got me into this,
> now get me out" look.
>
> I didn't have this problem with my 67, so I assumed it would be the
> same with his 68. Wrong! :-(
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 08:48:17 -0500
From: "JAMES MERLO"
To:
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I live in Missouri.

Do you or anybody else have a clue on the question I asked>

Jim
----------
> From: Terry R Sherman
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: Disc brake conversion problems
> Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 11:01 PM
>
> Hey James Merlo, Do you live in the Eau Claire, WI area?
>
>
> Thank You,
> Terry Sherman
> terbear discover-net.net
> '76 Ford Highboy...
>
> ----------
> > From: JAMES MERLO
> > To: fordtrucks lofcom.com; kpayne mindspring.com
> > Subject: Re: Disc brake conversion problems
> > Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 10:05 PM
> >
> > Ken,
> > I read of your problems with disc brake conversion.
> >
> > I have a 62 1 ton and am interested in front disc brakes. How did you
> > determine the correct pieces to use to fit on the spindles. I would
like
> to
> > keep the braking capability for a 1 ton (i.e. not use a Mustang II type
> > approach).
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: MadPoodle aol.com
> > > To: kpayne mindspring.com; fordtrucks lofcom.com
> > > Subject: Re: Disc brake conversion problems
> > > Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 6:58 PM
> > >
> > > Sounds like the volume on the master cylinder was close to the limit
> > before,
> > > and now cannot pump enough fluid to fill the hoses and cylinders..
When
> > > extending hoses, you should look into smaller inner diameter (ID)
than
> > stock.
> > > The smaller ID compensates for the increased volume needed to fill
> longer
> > > hoses.......
> > >
> > > l8tr
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > 24 cans in a case...24 hours a day...coincidence?
> > >
> > >
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:14:10 -0500
From: KEVIN
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: All this and still HOT!!
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Hey Griz,my 390 hade the same problem,after new radiators,pumpsand
tstats I decided to say "*&&^ it" if it blow it blows.Inever worried
about it then I had to do a intake gasket swap and dicovered that
someone else had decided to graduate SHADETREE 101 AND BLOCK OF BOTH
rear water intakes with a homemad gasket.nuts.Dunno idea maybe?

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:11:09 -0700
From: Keith Srb
To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
Subject: Heater Core Problem on a 1966 Ford F100
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Hi All,

I have a small problem. I had to replace the heater core in my 66 Ford
F100. I actually found one loacally, surprise, surprise. Now for the
problem, when I took the old heater core out, the foam material that was
around the heater core crubmle into dust. This foam material help seal
around and hold the heater core in place. Does anyone know of a place
where I might be able to get some foam like this? It will have to stand
very high temps, 200 to 240 degrees with out bursting into flames and
burning my truck up!

Thanks!

Keith Srb
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
Wheels!"

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:22:21 -0600
From: daffin satcom.whit.org (Mike )
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: All this and still HOT!!
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I too am experienceing the same problem as you are in a 74 f100 with a 390
in it. I am seeing the engine run hot. I have not started the process of
figuring out what the problem is but have a few iseas.. I too thought that a
thermostat would be the first place to look. and to follow I will replace
the water pump.. Unfortuantely it has always worked that way for me and
vehicles.. I always have to replace the water pump.. so I buy the lifetime
guaranteed ones. but if this solves the problem in mine.. I will let you
know.. BTW do you have headers on the engine.. the pprevious owner of mine
put headers and it seems to generate more heat while idling but it runs
cooler at speed? ...

Mike.

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:01:51 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
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I'm not sure, but I believe I saw some ads in Hemmings Motor News for kits
to replace the heater foam. If you don't have the latest Hemmings, but one
at your local magazine store.


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> From: Keith Srb
> To: 'fordtrucks lofcom.com'
> Subject: Heater Core Problem on a 1966 Ford F100
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 1997 12:11 PM
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have a small problem. I had to replace the heater core in my 66 Ford
> F100. I actually found one loacally, surprise, surprise. Now for the
> problem, when I took the old heater core out, the foam material that was
> around the heater core crubmle into dust. This foam material help seal
> around and hold the heater core in place. Does anyone know of a place
> where I might be able to get some foam like this? It will have to stand
> very high temps, 200 to 240 degrees with out bursting into flames and
> burning my truck up!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Keith Srb
> 1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
> 1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
> 1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
> My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
> Wheels!"
>
>
>
>
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>

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 16:49:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rocknjestr aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: HELP
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I have a 1977 F-150 with a 300 engine , i was wondering if anyone has a under
the hood decal with the idle rpm, etc . The Chiltons manual i have refers to
it, and unfortunaly it isn't there. If someone could tell me what the
settings are, or where i could get the info, i would very much thank you!!!!

Fondly,

Gary

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 15:05:00 -0600
From: daffin satcom.whit.org (Mike )
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: ALL THIS and overheating too...
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I think I have located the problem with the 73 f-100 that shows the temp as
overheating.. I think it may be either the sending unit or it could be the
actual guage.. I checked the temp when my truck started to overheat and i
found that it really was not.. turned out to be the sending unit... turns
out that the water pump was operating fine as is the thermostat in the truck..

Mike.

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:19:56 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Any 30's early 40's truck owners
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Couple of parts recently placed on our ad page.
Check them out, you just may find what you've
been looking for.

-Ken
List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 19:42:24 -0400
From: TwoPaw
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: EconoLine Van Meet
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I just heard that there is going to be a Econoline Van only meet it up
state Ny its around Lake Placid. The # is 518-576-4498 ask for Jeff
McCasland. Tell him Pat from Mass sent you


c-ya there

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Date: 19 Jul 97 20:53:45 EDT
From: DC Beatty
To: "'FORD TRUCKS'"
Subject: 1967 backup lights
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The backup lights don't work in my '67 F-100. The Chilton book states that I
should have a little switch on the steering column by the shift lever. I got the
switch at the boneyard and installed it and they still don't work. There are no
wires going to the FMX tranny.

Many of the '67-'72 trucks at the boneyard didn't have a switch either. Instead,
there was a sort of jumper wire on the push-on terminal that would plug into the
switch. Mine was exactly like these others that I saw. I was wondering what
other '67 truck owners had to activate their backup lights. Is the Chilton book
lying to me?

Thanks for any help,

DC Beatty
1967 F-100 352
1974 Maverick 302

BTW, I drove a 1997 F-150 XLT with 33 miles on it at work the other day. It has
a 5.4 litre (???) engine and a 4 speed auto. It was one nice ride.

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 21:06:24 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: disc brake problems... fixed (sort of)
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Well, I feel like a bonehead, I really should have checked to
make sure his caliper setup was correct....

My friend told me today "I kinda had to grind on the ends of
those custom hoses to get them to fit". Arrrgggghhh!!! He
created mild leaks so the brakes would grab enough!!! Also,
it turns out the reason why the stock 76 hoses weren't long
enough is because he had the right-hand caliper on the left-hand
side and the left-hand caliper on the right hand side. This
moved the hose fitting from the center of the brake spindle to
the outside, causing the hose fitting to pull too far away for
stock hoses when you turned the wheels.

That problem is now corrected, he learned a $68 leason with
the hoses and I learned a big leason to: check everything
some else does.

Switched the calipers back, put on stock hoses, bled the
system..... he has brakes!!!! But.... (you knew there had to
be a "but") I now know from experience that you cannot put
off the addition of the proportion valve until a later date.
The brakes are dragging very badly, so bad that they smoked really
bad after about 1 mile of driving. I'm going back over to his
place tomorrow to install the valve.

-Ken (I prove Murphy's Law)
List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 97 21:07:54 PDT
From: mcat epix.net
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: RE: ID 390?
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Doug,
What you have is a plan ole 390 made from the base casting(352) with
the back casting from the 427 molds. I`ve seen this same casting on many
390`s and some 428`s. The marine engine (427) looks just like the auto
block (427).It came in side oiler and top oiler versions depending on the
year. The industrial blocks were another story allby them selfs.
Garry
--- On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 21:57:57 -0700 Doug Neely
wrote:

>I just bought a 390 for rebuid, it has the 352 casting on
>the front, on the rear it has a 66-427 cast in. What is it???
>It has 2 bolt mains no side oiler bosses,is it a 427 marine
>block? It also has hydraulic lifters.
> Thanks all
> Doug
>
>
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Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 7/19/97 Time: 9:07:54 PM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 20:18:09 -0500
From: mturner ais.net
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: econoline trucks
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I would like to put a 8 cyl into my 1964 Econoline pickup. Any
suggestions? Has anyone out there done this? I am looking for any
helpful information, like what is the best motor to use and such.
thanks

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 20:21:22 -0700
From: "Jim Strigas"
To:
Subject: Re: Heater Core Problem on a 1966 Ford F100
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You may want to contact Fiberlay (see below for info). I
found them on the Web looking for fiberglass suppliers. In
their catalog they have Fiberfoam, A two part component
liquid polyurethane that produces a 2 pound density closed
cell foam when cured. Mixing equal amounts of part A and
part B Fiberfoam will expand 22 times it's liquid volume. A
2 pint kit (1 pint part A and 1 pint part B) will yield 1
cu. ft. of ridge foam. A 2 pint kit is $14.63, A 2 quart kit
is $22.13 and a 2 gallon kit is $73.50 (stock #401 P=pint
Q=quart G=gallon) It doesn't say in their catalog what temp
it can handle, so you will need to ask them. I don't think
250 deg would be a problem.
I want to make custom fenders and tank cover for my Wing. I
did a web search on fiberglass and found them. On their page
they have "e-mail for a free catalog and tell us how you
found us" so I did. The next day I received an e-mail saying
my catalog was in the mail and would I call them at 800...
on my project. They were vary cool and most helpful. I am
now considering starting a business in fiberglass and using
them as a supplier.
Now to make better Ford Truck content of all this! I making
a fiberglass glovebox and getting rid of the paper thing and
a headliner with an overhead console. I have a couple of
other projects to finish first, but when I complete them I
let you know how they turned out, how difficult they were to
make and how much costs ran. I will also report failure, but
don't count on it. I hate Failure!
When requesting a free catalog they want to know how you
found them. (Unless Ken Payne objects) Please credit Ford
Trucks http://www.ford-trucks.com/index.html
not me.

Fiberlay Ink.
Homepage= http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://fiberlay.com/
e-mail= fiberlay aol.com
2419 NW Market ST. Seattle, Wa. 98107
Toll free order 1-800-942-0660
Technical Service 1-206-782-0660

Jim Strigas
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I don't lie, cheat or steal unnecessarily.

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> From: Keith Srb
> To: 'fordtrucks lofcom.com'
> Subject: Heater Core Problem on a 1966 Ford F100
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 1997 10:11 AM
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have a small problem. I had to replace the heater core
in my 66 Ford
> F100. I actually found one loacally, surprise, surprise.
Now for the
> problem, when I took the old heater core out, the foam
material that was
> around the heater core crubmle into dust. This foam
material help seal
> around and hold the heater core in place. Does anyone
know of a place
> where I might be able to get some foam like this? It will
have to stand
> very high temps, 200 to 240 degrees with out bursting into
flames and
> burning my truck up!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Keith Srb
> 1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi
5-Speed.
> 1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
> 1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18
4-Speed, Short Box.
> My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure
HARLEY on Two
> Wheels!"
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:32:37 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: All this and still HOT!!
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Clark Gustafson wrote:
>
> Hello its me Griz,
> As you recall (well some of you might), I have a 73' F-100 w/302 cu in. I
> have replaced the radiator with a new on, the thermostat (with a new 160
> degree one) and the temp sender with a mechanical unit, and installed a
> flex fan, and still the damn thing persist in heating up to about 260+ when
> I am running on the highway at about 70mph for about 10-15 miles. It
> hasn't blown water out.....yet. I have recently replaced the timing chain
> and in doing so I had the "mechanic" check the water pump for wear, he
> informed me that "the shaft was not loose and felt [tight]", he did not
> remove the rear cover to inspect the fins though (DAH!!). I can see the
> water moving in the radiator when the thermostat opens, but I am not really
> sure if it is moving up to par. I am now in the process of having the water
> pump replaced with another OEM rebuilt unit (for $20 it was worth the try)
> and FINALLY my question is what is left if this don't work, the truck runs
> a little rich if that helps, I plan to convert it over to Electronic Ign.
> soon too. As I have said in the past the darn engine runs much to strong to
> toss it aside or give up, so please help me if you can ( I am requesting
> HELP not discussion on the theory of liquid-dynamics guys!! LOL) I am
> planning a 1500+ trip and need this thing to make it, thanks for all your
> help!!! Griz

You are running bad lean or you has an exaust valve that is not
exhuasting a few runs at 260 with cast rings and you'll be rebuilding
it.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 23:35:21 -0500 (EST)
From: JIM HURD
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: All this and still HOT!!
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Hey Griz,

Have you verified what your initial timing is?
And are you getting centrifugal advance?

Have you checked rolling resistance?
1. tire pressure?
2. draging brakes?
3. wheel bearings?
4. axle bearings?

Air flow through the radiatior?
1. anything blocking air flow?
2. correct fan shroud?

Condiction of Fan belts?
1. glazed belt
2. insufficient tension

Restricted exhaust?
1. pinched pipe?
2. plugged muffler?
3. frozen heat riser?

Exhaust in the coolant :(

Keep us posted on where you find the problem!

Jim in Central NY
'79 f-150 (302!)....


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