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Return-Path: From: fordtrucks-digest-request Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:02:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks-digest-request Subject: fordtrucks-digest Digest V97 #117 X-Loop: fordtrucks-digest X-Mailing-List: archive/volume97/117 X-Distributed-By: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ To: fordtrucks-digest Reply-To: fordtrucks ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain fordtrucks-digest DigestVolume 97 : Issue 117 Today's Topics: Wiring [billjhs ] Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA ["Larry Coffman" 51 Ford F-1 front end switch ["Roger Fletcher" Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Bj2797 Re: Shop Manuals [Bj2797 Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Bill Flood ] Re: Salvage yard 390 pricing. [Daver ] float for sending unit [calvinry Ordering truck parts [Paul G ] Re: float for sending unit [Ken Payne ] RE: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Ken Payne ] RE: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Ken Payne ] Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Ken Payne ] Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Don Lewis ] Re: SEATS [Ken Payne ] Re: Help! [Ken Payne ] Re: Salvage yard 390 pricing. ["George Shepherd" catalog ["Jon & Cindy Johnson" Catalog, web ad, etc. [Ken Payne ] Administrivia: ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-digest-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:01:00 -0400 From: billjhs To: fordtrucks Subject: Wiring Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello to all, Does anyone have a picture of the exact route for the wiring harness on a 1951 F-1. I am putting in a new harness and I can't find the wire route in any of the service manuals. I just need under the hood. The wiring that was in here was just willy-nilly wires going in every direction. Thanks Billjhs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 17:17:58 -0400 From: "Larry Coffman" To: Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds good to me, I`ve still got some parts to find! ---------- > From: Ken Payne > To: fordtrucks > Subject: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 10:12 PM > > Yesterday I received an email from one of the largest Ford antique > parts companies. They would like to distribute their catalog, free > of charge, to anyone on our list who is interested. > > In addition, there was an offer to promote them on our web site. > This company is a very well respected member of the Ford antique > "community" and I have no reason to believe they want to influence > our membership. They simply want to take advantage of the fact that > our site receives 250+ Ford truck visitors a day. I wanted to bring > this to the attention of the list members since I've always kept > list business and finances in the open. I'm in favor of letting > them advertise on the web page only - not on the lists (they made no > mention of advertising on or influencing the lists). > > Thanks to the kindness of many members the email list expenses are > paid up for this quarter (up in a month) and most of next quarter. > I would like to offer this company an opportunity to advertise on > our page, covering list expenses so our membership doesn't have to. > List expenses are an on-going item that I would rather not have to > beg the members about. I would also like to try to arrange a group > purchase discount with this company since they seem eager to deal > with us. I haven't actually discussed any terms with this company > as I wanted to approach the membership first. Please be prompt with > your opinions as I would like to get in touch with them ASAP. > > What does everyone think about this? It seems like a win-win > situation to me. This method would prevent us from having to depend > on a small minority to pay our expenses. If it seems okay to the > membership, I'll reveal the company name and set up an on-line form > you can use to enter your mailing address in. These would be > forwarded to them so you could get your free parts catalog. > > As a side note, now that everything has settled down with having the > baby, finishing touches are being added to our window sticker design > and I've contacted a couple of companies for pricing. > > Express your opinions either on the list or email me privately > (kpayne > > -Ken > List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8 > Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com > (subscribe/unsubscribe forms on the web site) > fordtrucks > fordtrucks80up > (Email me if you're on the wrong list) > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 14:06:20 PDT From: "Roger Fletcher" To: fordtrucks Subject: 51 Ford F-1 front end switch Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain I have an ongoing project on my 51 F-1 and am to the point of needing to up grade the suspension steering and front end. I want to end up with good quick straight stopping disc brakes, power steering (possibly rack & pinion) decent suspension (coil or torsion bar OK with me) a tilr steering wheel and be able to use 1 spare to fit both front & rear. Does anyone have any good suggestions on what to rob & changeover? I would sooner rob something than pay at am aftermarket house if possible. What I've done so far: 360 Ford mtr out of a 67 F-250 (slightly hopped up) C-6 from a 68 Ford Galaxie, 9" rear from a 75 Ford F-1 and added power brake booster from a 81 E-350 van. Front end is original at this point, and very hard to control this truck. Any help would be appreciated by me and my worried wife. Thanks------Roger Fletcher ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 18:55:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bj2797 To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ Message-ID: Sounds Great! Count me in! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:05:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Bj2797 To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Shop Manuals Message-ID: Joe, I sure could use that 76 manual. Tell me how you want the money. THANKS, BOB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 18:33:27 -0500 From: Bill Flood To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken, >>In addition, there was an offer to promote them on our web site. They have an interest, you have an interest. Sounds good, give it a try! Bill '39 pickup ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 06:51:37 -0500 From: Daver To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Salvage yard 390 pricing. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Shepherd wrote: > > I think $300 ought to get you a complete FE 390, course if your going for a > aftermarket intake and carb, your ok. > A rebuild core ought not cost more than $150. > rebuildable > can be bored to .30 or less > crank can be ground to .30 or less > no cracks in block or heads > > expect to > rebore block $6 per hole > new pistons and rings > grind crank ? ($120) > new bearings > line bore block > recondition rods > new oil pump > replace all valves and valve seats and some valve guides (best to replace > them all) > new push rods and rockers > gasket set > water pump > cam bearings > cam (?) > > I'm sure I left something out. Yea a balance, best 125.00 you'll ever spend. and Isky makes inexpensive adjustable rockers this also is money well spent. Molater Daver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 20:33:26 -0700 From: calvinry To: fordtrucks Subject: float for sending unit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit to those of you gracious enough to e-mail me about my sputtering 390, the accelerator pump worked just great. thanks. Now for another test can someone tell me where to find the float that clips into the fuel tank sending unit. I've looked in the jc whitney cat. they dont have it and none of the auto parts stores here in houston that i've been in have it. Any guidance would be appreciated. If anyone is interested there is a good aftermarket body parts outfit here in houston that sells parts for older ford trucks along with the more inferior truck makers. They have every body panel you can imagine plus grills and other accessories. If anyone is interested or knows of other places that I may find aftermarket parts I would like to here from you. The place I'm talking about sells a 74 f-100 door w/o hardware for 127.00 tell me if that is cheap or not Jcwhitney wants 136.00 plus almost 100.00 for shipping. later ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:47:59 -0700 From: Paul G To: fordtrucks Subject: Ordering truck parts Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a bit of info from a guy in Virginia who ordered some parts from 2 West Coast mail order companies the same day (June 14); the first company, Sacramento Vintage, got my parts to me in 2 days. The other, SoCal, while having a great assortment of parts, has yet to get me some items. I know the score; parts are occasionally on b/o, etc, but the cusotomer service I am getting from SoCal is really weak; almost no follow up to status of orders, etc. After spending $1500 with them youwould expect a bit more. I am in business myself, and ship quite a bit, so I know what customer service should be; so, although SoCal sure gets written up a lot in the magazines, and although they have some neat products, don't be in a rush if you need anything from them. Paul G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:59:03 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: float for sending unit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:33 PM 7/16/97 -0700, you wrote: >to those of you gracious enough to e-mail me about my sputtering 390, >the accelerator pump worked just great. thanks. > Now for another test can someone tell me where to find the float that >clips into the fuel tank sending unit. I've looked in the jc whitney >cat. they dont have it and none of the auto parts stores here in houston >that i've been in have it. Any guidance would be appreciated. Only Ford or one of the specialty shops on our suppliers list (on the web site) will carry it. They usually only sell them with the entire float assembly (about $60). > If anyone is interested there is a good aftermarket body parts outfit >here in houston that sells parts for older ford trucks along with the >more inferior truck makers. They have every body panel you can imagine >plus grills and other accessories. If anyone is interested or knows of >other places that I may find aftermarket parts I would like to here from >you. The place I'm talking about sells a 74 f-100 door w/o hardware for >127.00 tell me if that is cheap or not Jcwhitney wants 136.00 plus >almost 100.00 for shipping. > later > I assume its a 74? $127 is a good price. Have you considered a unit from a wrecker yard? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:02:09 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: RE: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:14 AM 7/16/97 -0700, you wrote: >Sounds good to me. Are the 73 to 79's considered antique? Unfortunately, they only cover through 72 (like most of the suppliers out there). In another 5 years or so you can expect to see more companies sell for 73-79. I know that doesn't help you now. However, many of the 73+ parts are common to the 67-72. The catalogs will usually state the years covered. It would probably be worth it to get the catalog anyways. > >If they are covered I would like a catalog. > >Randy Collins >9149 Donnybrook Ct. >Boise, Idaho 83709 > >Randy Collins >Boise, Idaho >rcollins > >1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces) >Soon to have the following Randy installed options: >F250 4WD 460 C-6 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From:Ken Payne [SMTP:kpayne >Sent:Tuesday, July 15, 1997 7:13 PM >To:fordtrucks >Subject:IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ > >Yesterday I received an email from one of the largest Ford antique >parts companies. They would like to distribute their catalog, free >of charge, to anyone on our list who is interested. > >In addition, there was an offer to promote them on our web site. >This company is a very well respected member of the Ford antique >"community" and I have no reason to believe they want to influence >our membership. They simply want to take advantage of the fact that >our site receives 250+ Ford truck visitors a day. I wanted to bring >this to the attention of the list members since I've always kept >list business and finances in the open. I'm in favor of letting >them advertise on the web page only - not on the lists (they made no >mention of advertising on or influencing the lists). > >Thanks to the kindness of many members the email list expenses are >paid up for this quarter (up in a month) and most of next quarter. >I would like to offer this company an opportunity to advertise on >our page, covering list expenses so our membership doesn't have to. >List expenses are an on-going item that I would rather not have to >beg the members about. I would also like to try to arrange a group >purchase discount with this company since they seem eager to deal >with us. I haven't actually discussed any terms with this company >as I wanted to approach the membership first. Please be prompt with >your opinions as I would like to get in touch with them ASAP. > >What does everyone think about this? It seems like a win-win >situation to me. This method would prevent us from having to depend >on a small minority to pay our expenses. If it seems okay to the >membership, I'll reveal the company name and set up an on-line form >you can use to enter your mailing address in. These would be >forwarded to them so you could get your free parts catalog. > >As a side note, now that everything has settled down with having the >baby, finishing touches are being added to our window sticker design >and I've contacted a couple of companies for pricing. > >Express your opinions either on the list or email me privately >(kpayne > >-Ken >List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8 >Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com >(subscribe/unsubscribe forms on the web site) >fordtrucks >fordtrucks80up >(Email me if you're on the wrong list) > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request >Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > >Attachment Converted: "C:\Internet\DOWNLOAD\RE IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEAS" > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:02:47 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: RE: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:41 AM 7/16/97 -0400, you wrote: > > >it would help me out im in the process >of restoring a 71 bronco and need a few things also my dad has two 55 >t-birds that need afew parts also. > They also have a catalog that would cover the T-birds. >some assembly required >central fl. > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request >Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:03:30 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:46 AM 7/16/97 +0900, you wrote: >If '73 through '79 is covered by their catalog I'd like to receive a copy. > Read an earlier post I made about this. >Kevin Lindstedt >307 Wabash Avenue >Chesterton, IN 46304 > > >1978 F150 Ranger Lariat 2wd 460/C6 -Ken List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8 Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com (subscribe/unsubscribe forms on the web site) fordtrucks fordtrucks80up (Email me if you're on the wrong list) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:03:44 -0500 From: Don Lewis To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sounds like a deal to me. I probably already have the catalog but subsidizing the list seems like a good idea. A yes vote. At 10:12 PM 7/15/97 -0400, you wrote: >Yesterday I received an email from one of the largest Ford antique >parts companies. They would like to distribute their catalog, free >of charge, to anyone on our list who is interested. > >In addition, there was an offer to promote them on our web site. >This company is a very well respected member of the Ford antique >"community" and I have no reason to believe they want to influence >our membership. They simply want to take advantage of the fact that >our site receives 250+ Ford truck visitors a day. I wanted to bring >this to the attention of the list members since I've always kept >list business and finances in the open. I'm in favor of letting >them advertise on the web page only - not on the lists (they made no >mention of advertising on or influencing the lists). > >Thanks to the kindness of many members the email list expenses are >paid up for this quarter (up in a month) and most of next quarter. >I would like to offer this company an opportunity to advertise on >our page, covering list expenses so our membership doesn't have to. >List expenses are an on-going item that I would rather not have to >beg the members about. I would also like to try to arrange a group >purchase discount with this company since they seem eager to deal >with us. I haven't actually discussed any terms with this company >as I wanted to approach the membership first. Please be prompt with >your opinions as I would like to get in touch with them ASAP. > >What does everyone think about this? It seems like a win-win >situation to me. This method would prevent us from having to depend >on a small minority to pay our expenses. If it seems okay to the >membership, I'll reveal the company name and set up an on-line form >you can use to enter your mailing address in. These would be >forwarded to them so you could get your free parts catalog. > >As a side note, now that everything has settled down with having the >baby, finishing touches are being added to our window sticker design >and I've contacted a couple of companies for pricing. > >Express your opinions either on the list or email me privately >(kpayne > >-Ken >List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8 >Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com >(subscribe/unsubscribe forms on the web site) >fordtrucks >fordtrucks80up >(Email me if you're on the wrong list) > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request >Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > Don Lewis 1946 Ford 1/2 ton ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:04:45 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: SEATS Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:37 AM 7/16/97 -0400, you wrote: >WHAT KIND OF SEATS [BUCKET] WILL FIT A 53 F1 THANKS KEN---- > I honestly have no earthly idea. Anyone else know? -Ken List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8 Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com (subscribe/unsubscribe forms on the web site) fordtrucks fordtrucks80up (Email me if you're on the wrong list) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:06:21 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Help! Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:48 AM 7/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >What is the address for the Ford Enthusiast home page?? I have lost track! >SORRY!!! > >Thank You, > Terry Sherman > terbear > >'76 Ford Highboy... > Do you mean the Ford Truck Enthusiasts page (us) or the Fordnatics page? Ours is: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dragonfire.net/~site. The Fordnatics page is listed as a link in our "other mail lists" page. -Ken List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8 Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com (subscribe/unsubscribe forms on the web site) fordtrucks fordtrucks80up (Email me if you're on the wrong list) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:02:22 -0500 From: "George Shepherd" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Salvage yard 390 pricing. Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a good article in September 4x4 Power Magazine on budget engine rebuilding and what to expect. Although its for Ch$%^y's everything there is applicable to Fords. ---------- > From: Keith Srb > To: 'fordtrucks > Subject: Salvage yard 390 pricing. > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 10:04 AM > > Is $300.00 to much to pay for a FE 390, minus the intake manifold and carb? > The salvage yard "guarantees" to provide me with an engine that I can rebuild. > I still need to find out what they consider an engine that can be rebuilt is. > > Keith Srb > 1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed. > 1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up. > 1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box. > My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!" > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > > From owner-bigbroncos com Wed Jul 16 10:09 CDT 1997 > Received: from unix.off -road. com (unix.off -road. com [204.119.251.4]) > by mailroom.iamerica.net (8.8.5/970201ewa) with SMTP id KAA24950 > for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:09:39 -0500 (CDT) > Received: (from majordom com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id FAA08929 for bigbroncos-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 05:19:29 -1000 > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:02:23 -0500 > Message-Id: > X-Sender: cloud > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: bigbroncos com > From: cloud > Subject: Re: Idle Speed on EFI > Sender: bigbroncos-owner com > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: bigbroncos com > Broncodata: Check out: www.bronco. com and www.off -road. com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Length: 917 > > >Does anyone know how to set Idle speed. They say it is controlled by the > >Confuser but there must be a setpoint or adjustment somewhere. I know that > >some ISC's use a voltage ratio that you have to manually adjust but have no > >clue on this one. Anyone?? > > Kimo, for questions like this, I'd join the eec-iv > or diy-efi group -- though there's a good possibility > any that know the answer won't tell you 8>( > > I *think* it's hard-coded into the ECU. .... how bad is it? > It occurred after you changed the battery, right? how long has > it been? As I recall, you changed the bty, and some fluids -- which > is not related. You've just reset the cornfuzer and it hasn't > gotten its head on straight yet .... I'm sure it's slow because > some of your sensors are old and have marginal or out-of-range > outputs > > Tom Cloud > > ===== > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /4x4web/ford/bigbroncos > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bronco. com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:42:03 -0400 From: "Jon & Cindy Johnson" To: Subject: catalog Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i would like a copy i can always use another parts source ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:22:47 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Catalog, web ad, etc. Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Every response I've gotten from the list membership has been positive. It appears that I will not need to put this up to a list vote (thankfully as its a pain to tally 900 votes). I've sent a follow-up to this company (I will not reveal their name until we have a confirmation as to their intentions, but believe me... they're one of the best) proposing that they advertise for $35-$40 a month. This amount will cover our expenses and it will put a few extra bucks into our reserve. I believe this amount to be extremely reasonable and well within my personal definition of keeping this a hobby, not a business. In return for their money, I would supply them with a statistics log of visits to our site, click-thrus on their banner, etc. Additionally, I'm going to email them our visitor statistic log for the past two months so they'll know that my "boast" of 200+ visitors a day is real..... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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