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fordtrucks-digest DigestVolume 97 : Issue 116

Today's Topics:

RE: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Randy Collins ]
Re: sputtering 390 [u176475 webtv.net (Shannon Pate) ]
RE: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [u176475 webtv.net (Shannon Pate) ]
Can't lose!! [gusinks ruraltel.net (Clark Gustafs]
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Jerry & Lisa ]
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Kevin Lindstedt
Wiper replacement [Don Lewis ]
Shop Manuals [SHOman ]
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA ["DASH8" ]
Re: Grindage [James Oxley ]
antique ford advertisers [jniolon uss.com ]
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [silent.bob juno.com ]
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [daffin satcom.whit.org (Mike ) ]
SEATS ["kenneth marty" ]
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [William Sabers
Salvage yard 390 pricing. [Keith Srb ]
F-1 Tranny seals [billjhs ]
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [sdelanty sonic.net ]
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Claypaul aol.com ]
Re: It's pumpkin season [Claypaul aol.com ]
Re: project truck [Claypaul aol.com ]
Help! ["Terry R Sherman"
Re: Salvage yard 390 pricing. ["George Shepherd"
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [Randall679 aol.com ]
Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE REA [TNickolson aol.com ]

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:14:38 -0700
From: Randy Collins
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Subject: RE: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ
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Sounds good to me. Are the 73 to 79's considered antique?

If they are covered I would like a catalog.

Randy Collins
9149 Donnybrook Ct.
Boise, Idaho 83709

Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
F250 4WD 460 C-6



-----Original Message-----
From:Ken Payne [SMTP:kpayne mindspring.com]
Sent:Tuesday, July 15, 1997 7:13 PM
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Subject:IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ

Yesterday I received an email from one of the largest Ford antique
parts companies. They would like to distribute their catalog, free
of charge, to anyone on our list who is interested.

In addition, there was an offer to promote them on our web site.
This company is a very well respected member of the Ford antique
"community" and I have no reason to believe they want to influence
our membership. They simply want to take advantage of the fact that
our site receives 250+ Ford truck visitors a day. I wanted to bring
this to the attention of the list members since I've always kept
list business and finances in the open. I'm in favor of letting
them advertise on the web page only - not on the lists (they made no
mention of advertising on or influencing the lists).

Thanks to the kindness of many members the email list expenses are
paid up for this quarter (up in a month) and most of next quarter.
I would like to offer this company an opportunity to advertise on
our page, covering list expenses so our membership doesn't have to.
List expenses are an on-going item that I would rather not have to
beg the members about. I would also like to try to arrange a group
purchase discount with this company since they seem eager to deal
with us. I haven't actually discussed any terms with this company
as I wanted to approach the membership first. Please be prompt with
your opinions as I would like to get in touch with them ASAP.

What does everyone think about this? It seems like a win-win
situation to me. This method would prevent us from having to depend
on a small minority to pay our expenses. If it seems okay to the
membership, I'll reveal the company name and set up an on-line form
you can use to enter your mailing address in. These would be
forwarded to them so you could get your free parts catalog.

As a side note, now that everything has settled down with having the
baby, finishing touches are being added to our window sticker design
and I've contacted a couple of companies for pricing.

Express your opinions either on the list or email me privately
(kpayne mindspring.com), whichever you feel most comfortable with.

-Ken
List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
(subscribe/unsubscribe forms on the web site)
fordtrucks lofcom.com is the 1979 and older truck list,
fordtrucks80up lofcom.com is the 1980 and newer truck list..
(Email me if you're on the wrong list)


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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 03:20:32 -0400
From: u176475 webtv.net (Shannon Pate)
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: sputtering 390
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YOU MIGHT CHECK YOUR FLOAT LEVELS

STARVING
SHANNON

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 03:41:14 -0400
From: u176475 webtv.net (Shannon Pate)
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: RE: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ
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it would help me out im in the process
of restoring a 71 bronco and need a few things also my dad has two 55
t-birds that need afew parts also.

some assembly required
central fl.

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 03:03:55 -0500
From: gusinks ruraltel.net (Clark Gustafson)
To: "Ford Truck Mailing List"
Subject: Can't lose!!
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I say let'em aboard!! Sounds great to me, I was wondering what sorta things
they offer in their catalog specifically? Thanks for asking, and keep up
the great work Ken (pat on the back for your efforts!) Take care. Griz

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 07:38:53 -0700
From: Jerry & Lisa
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ
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Sounds great Ken.

Jerry & Lisa
77 F150 4x4

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 06:46:06 +0900
From: Kevin Lindstedt
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ
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If '73 through '79 is covered by their catalog I'd like to receive a copy.

Kevin Lindstedt
307 Wabash Avenue
Chesterton, IN 46304


1978 F150 Ranger Lariat 2wd 460/C6

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 07:01:04 -0500
From: Don Lewis
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Wiper replacement
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I want to replace my vacuum driven windshield wiper motor with an
electrical motor and remember seeing an ad for somebody who has exact
replacement motors not just a universal setup. Does anybody know of a source?


Don Lewis
1946 Ford 1/2 ton

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:26:19 -0400
From: SHOman
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Shop Manuals
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I still have the 72 and 76 Helm 5 volume Shop manuals for sale...The
include all Ford Trucks for that year...$40 +ship
Joe

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:29:18 -0400
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sounds good to me

ken marty

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:51:03 -0700
From: James Oxley
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Grindage
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mark heims wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm fairly new to the list. I've got a 78 F150 4x4. It's got
> the New Process 435 4 speed. The tranny "pops" out of third gear under
> hard acceleration and also started grinding when shifting into third.
> Would the sycros cause it to pop out of gear and how hard are they to
> replace.

Yes, possibly and they are fairly easy to replace. Getting that huge
tranny and TC (NP 205) out is the pain, those suckers are heavy. The 435
is the first man tranny I ever rebuilt and it was not tough at all. I
bought my parts from a guy called Ed Hartnetts 4 speeds in PA,
215-623-9381 evenings. He's a nice guy willing to help you out. If I
rememebr right, he would rebuild it for 175$, but that was several years
ago. It cost me 178$ these parts.

(1rst gear not synchronized)
2nd synchro ring
2nd gear synchro ring spring
3rd-4th gear synchro assy
4th gear outer cone (mine was trashed, but normally should be OK)
gasket kit
input bearing seal
input bearing
(4) fork pads

Even after 150K miles, gears looked brand new. Opening the
case is impressive as that creeper first gear is huge, almost as wide as
the case.

>Whats a good source of info on rebuilding this tranny? Thanks

I got an old Chiltons that had an exploded view of a 435 out of a
chr*lser. The veiw was for a 2WD, but the guts are the same. It was
enough info to get me through the rebuild. Got chiltons from library.

OX

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon uss.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: antique ford advertisers
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Being a catalog junkie, I'm all in favor. Vendor catalogs are some of
the best sources of technical info and hobby tips.

I think it is a good idea. It's a good source for information and
parts for us and a good way to keep someone who services our hobby in
business.

Please add my name to the list of recipients for their flyer, catalog,
etc.

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:41:27 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ
Message-ID:

On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 22:12:32 -0400 Ken Payne
writes:
>Yesterday I received an email from one of the largest Ford antique
>parts companies. They would like to distribute their catalog, free
>of charge, to anyone on our list who is interested.

>-Ken
>List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
>Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
>(subscribe/unsubscribe forms on the web site)
>fordtrucks lofcom.com is the 1979 and older truck list,
>fordtrucks80up lofcom.com is the 1980 and newer truck list..
>(Email me if you're on the wrong list)


Sounds good to me Ken.

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:33:54 -0600
From: daffin satcom.whit.org (Mike )
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ
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I say let them advertise on the web page.. and i would like a copy of the
catalog..

Mike.

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:37:15 -0400
From: "kenneth marty"
To: "FORD"
Subject: SEATS
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WHAT KIND OF SEATS [BUCKET] WILL FIT A 53 F1 THANKS KEN----

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:50:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Sabers
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ
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Go for the Gusto!
Most of us would not mind another parts source...

Wsabers

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:04:03 -0700
From: Keith Srb
To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
Subject: Salvage yard 390 pricing.
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Is $300.00 to much to pay for a FE 390, minus the intake manifold and carb?
The salvage yard "guarantees" to provide me with an engine that I can rebuild.
I still need to find out what they consider an engine that can be rebuilt is.

Keith Srb
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"



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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:28:43 -0400
From: billjhs
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: F-1 Tranny seals
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Hello to all,

I have a 1951 F-1 and the tranny seems to be leaking fluid from around
the shafts that enter the side cover of the tranny. I believe these are
the shift forks. Does anyone know
where I can get the seals or bushings??? I tried several local guys and
they said they aren't made anymore. Thanks in Advance.
billjhs excaliber.com

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:22:51 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Yesterday I received an email from one of the largest Ford antique
>parts companies. They would like to distribute their catalog, free
>of charge, to anyone on our list who is interested.


Yes Ken I think it would be fine if they wanted to advertise on the web
site, and YES I would like a catalog.
AS LONG AS I don't end up on someones mailing list... Email or snailmail.

>As a side note, now that everything has settled down with having the
>baby, finishing touches are being added to our window sticker design
>and I've contacted a couple of companies for pricing.

Oooh, I'd forgotton about the window sticker! COOL!

Thanks Ken, You do an *excellent* job keeping the list together,
much appreciated....


Steve Delanty

1971 F100 shortbox, FE390, T-18 4-speed

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:57:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claypaul aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT ADMIN NEWS, PLEASE READ
Message-ID:

Ken, sounds good to me. Anyone that shares our interests and is willing to
underwrite the ongoing costs can be nothing but beneficial to this forum. I
vote yes.

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:17:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claypaul aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: It's pumpkin season
Message-ID:

Steve, greetings from a fellow Ford Truck enthusiast! ('80 F250 4X4, 351C).
I've rebuilt several 9 inchers with the help of a long-time Ford truck fleet
mechanic in Alaska. Indeed the pinion shims are to set pinion engagement
depth and eliminate pinion shaft end play. That part is not as critical as
the ring gear contact pressure. If your rebuild includes new gears (in
addition to bearings), use the original pinion shims for default depth. Then,
using the ring-gear assembly adjusting nuts and a regular piece of yellow
notepad paper (legal pad) cut in about a one inch strip fed into the gear
mesh, adjust the ring-gear contact pressure until the pinion-to-ring-gear
spacing just tightly creases but does not cut the paper as it is fed between
the gears. It works everytime for me. Hope this helps. Regards from Redding,
CA, Paul

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:33:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claypaul aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: project truck
Message-ID:

If you really want to meet all three of those goals, turbo-charging comes to
mind. The compression ratio is perfect for turbo and it makes a nice looking
package under the hood when it's done. Going with the B&S big cubes will get
you horsepower, but not gas mileage. Turbo-charging is a little more
involved, but Paxton (remember them?) makes bolt on kits that aren't too
difficult for do-it-yourselfers. They also offer recommendations for matching
the right cam and rear-end ratios to the package. Something to think
about...... Regards from Redding, CA, Paul.

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:48:11 -0500
From: "Terry R Sherman"
To:
Subject: Help!
Message-Id:
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What is the address for the Ford Enthusiast home page?? I have lost track!
SORRY!!!

Thank You,
Terry Sherman
terbear discover-net.net

'76 Ford Highboy...

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:05:15 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
To:
Subject: Re: Salvage yard 390 pricing.
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I think $300 ought to get you a complete FE 390, course if your going for a
aftermarket intake and carb, your ok.
A rebuild core ought not cost more than $150.
rebuildable
can be bored to .30 or less
crank can be ground to .30 or less
no cracks in block or heads

expect to
rebore block $6 per hole
new pistons and rings
grind crank ? ($120)
new bearings
line bore block
recondition rods
new oil pump
replace all valves and valve seats and some valve guides (best to replace
them all)
new push rods and rockers
gasket set
water pump
cam bearings
cam (?)

I'm sure I left something out.

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> From: Keith Srb
> To: 'fordtrucks lofcom.com'
> Subject: Salvage yard 390 pricing.
> Date: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 10:04 AM
>
> Is $300.00 to much to pay for a FE 390, minus the intake manifold and
carb?
> The salvage yard "guarantees" to provide me with an engine that I can
rebuild.
> I still need to find out what they consider an engine that can be
rebuilt is.
>
> Keith Srb
> 1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
> 1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
> 1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
> My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
Wheels!"
>
>
>
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>
> From owner-bigbroncos unix.off -road. com Wed Jul 16 10:09 CDT 1997
> Received: from unix.off -road. com (unix.off -road. com [204.119.251.4])
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> To: bigbroncos off -road. com
> From: cloud peaches.ph.utexas.edu (Tom Cloud)
> Subject: Re: Idle Speed on EFI
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> >Does anyone know how to set Idle speed. They say it is controlled by the
> >Confuser but there must be a setpoint or adjustment somewhere. I know
that
> >some ISC's use a voltage ratio that you have to manually adjust but have
no
> >clue on this one. Anyone??
>
> Kimo, for questions like this, I'd join the eec-iv
> or diy-efi group -- though there's a good possibility
> any that know the answer won't tell you 8>(
>
> I *think* it's hard-coded into the ECU. .... how bad is it?
> It occurred after you changed the battery, right? how long has
> it been? As I recall, you changed the bty, and some fluids -- which
> is not related. You've just reset the cornfuzer and it hasn't....

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