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Return-Path: From: fordtrucks-digest-request Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:24:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks-digest-request Subject: fordtrucks-digest Digest V97 #109 X-Loop: fordtrucks-digest X-Mailing-List: archive/volume97/109 X-Distributed-By: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ To: fordtrucks-digest Reply-To: fordtrucks ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain fordtrucks-digest DigestVolume 97 : Issue 109 Today's Topics: Re: Engine mystery [Chris James ] Re: Engine mystery [Don Grossman ] The wonderful thing about tiggers... [sdelanty Re: 77 F150 Questions [TACYCBR Re: Engine mystery ["Jon" ] Re: Will 429 fit a 77 f150 [TACYCBR RE: Engine mystery [Kevin Kemmerer ] 56 F-100 A/C installation [JSanc82344 engine mystery, maybe not ["DONNA " ] EGR TVS location ["Donald R. Screen" Oil Filter bypass? ["Donald R. Screen" While we're jacking things up.... [gusinks RE: fordtrucks-digest Digest V97 #10 ["Shaw, Eddie (MSMail Mailbox)" Re: Edelbrock 600 carb - C6 kickdown [Mark Tanner ] blue thunder [Kevin Kemmerer ] RE: Engine mystery [DC Beatty RE: Oil Filter bypass? [DC Beatty Re: While we're jacking things up... ["George Shepherd" Re: Engine mystery [Don Grossman ] Re: Engine mystery ["George Shepherd" Administrivia: ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-digest-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:31:00 -0700 From: Chris James To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Engine mystery Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TACYCBR > > No a 460 intake will not fit your 360 heads. It and the 429 are in the same > family and they will work together. A 352 and 390 will work for you. The > 352,360 and 390 are in the same family and not considered a big block.They are considered Y blocks. the 352,360 and 390 as well as 427 and 428 are not Y blocks. they are FE big blocks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:45:19 +0000 From: Don Grossman To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Engine mystery Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris James wrote: > > TACYCBR > > > > No a 460 intake will not fit your 360 heads. It and the 429 are in the same > > family and they will work together. A 352 and 390 will work for you. The > > 352,360 and 390 are in the same family and not considered a big block.They are considered Y blocks. > > the 352,360 and 390 as well as 427 and 428 are not Y blocks. they are FE > big blocks. What Chris said... Just think of a 427CJ y-block....Sign me UP! -- Don Grossman duckdon The scene; Bunch of NASA guys looking at TV monitor. "Look, A ROCK!" 63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:26:34 -0700 From: sdelanty To: FORDTRUCKS Subject: The wonderful thing about tiggers... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "The wonderful thing about tiggers, is tiggers are wonderful things. Their legs are made out of rubber, their tails are made out of springs!!!" Springs? Oh yeh, that reminds me... The rear springs and bushings on my '71 F100 are pretty well shot. I've got a new set of urethane bushings and a nice, but used spring set out of a HD 3/4ton p/u and they are the same width and length as my F100 set, but have 7 leaves on top of the short flat overload spring. The stock F100 springs have 4 leaves on top of the over load... I think 7 over 1 is too much for me. Soooo... I'm staring at the disassembled spring packs trying to decide whether to slip out a leaf and run it as a 6 over 1 set, or remove 2 and make a 5 over 1 set. I don't want it so stifff that it rides like sh!t or breaks my 9" axle. But I would like it stiffer than it is, and more load carry capacity. I don't really want more ride height, although I'll get a little anyway. I need opinions! How about a poll... maybe Youse guys with F100's and F150's could take a peek and tell me how many leaves You are running. I'd like to Know: How many leaves. (+ overload) Anything special? F100 or F150? What rear axle You have (9" or dana)? [28 or 31 spline if 9" and You know.] Do You usually run empty or loaded (the truck, not You!) Camper shell? etc..? Opinions about whether Your setup is "too soft, too firm, etc" when empty and loaded. Any other thoughts/suggestions about rear springs.. I may pull my old springs out tomorrow, so replies to my address would be preferable as I am on digest and might be done before the next.. (-: Gonna go out to the garage now and press the old bushings outa dem springs. Thanks much, {disclaimer} no tiggers or pooh bears were injured during the writing of this. Steve Delanty 1971 F100 shortbox, FE390, T-18 4-speed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:46:06 -0400 (EDT) From: TACYCBR To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: 77 F150 Questions Message-ID: The Ranger is the top of line.It just basicaly has the chrome package.Some radiators in them were a little heavy dutier. Parts will interchange from 73 to 79. Up to about 75 the F-150 was down on the fender but they will come off and a little bit of bondo will cover that up. Another difference was the grills but they will all bolt up. The beds all had scwer cap on the outside up to about 75.The others had the door. I have two of these trucks a 78 and 79 and the both are good trucks and I think you will be happy with yours. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:48:45 -0800 From: "Jon" To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Engine mystery Message-Id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 9 Jul 97 at 19:55, TACYCBR > From: TACYCBR > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:55:07 -0400 (EDT) > To: fordtrucks > Subject: Re: Engine mystery > Reply-to: fordtrucks > The 352,360 and 390 are in the same family and not considered a big block.They > are considered Y blocks. wrong.! 352,360,390,406,410,427,428 and there is a couple i missed in there are FE blocks noy Y blocks now 292,312 are Y blocks easy way to tell, the dist. is in the back. HTH jon URJB Racing ...Because walking sucks! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.urjb.com/ Undocumented Windows 95 Error Codes: WinErr 019: User error - Not our fault. Is Not! Is Not! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:49:14 -0400 (EDT) From: TACYCBR To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Will 429 fit a 77 f150 Message-ID: Everything will bolt in place. I would make the swap but I don't have your wallet for the gas. 78 F-100 351C CJ 79 F-100 300 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:05:14 -0400 From: Kevin Kemmerer To: "'fordtrucks Subject: RE: Engine mystery Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable look guys, FE blocks are Y-blocks. Y block is a type of casting. most = modern engines are not Y-blocks with the exception that i know of the = dodge V10. (i don't consider the FE a modern engine.) what is the definition of a big block? i thought it is a block casting = that is larger than the same companies' smaller block - anyone got a = better definition?. if that is the case, then the FE blocks are big = blocks and i can tell you they are heavier than the 429/460. before the = 429/460, the FE was THE ford big block. but all this arguing doesn't accomplish a damn thing. sleddog ---------- From: Chris James[SMTP:cjames Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 8:31 PM To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Engine mystery TACYCBR >=20 > No a 460 intake will not fit your 360 heads. It and the 429 are in the = same > family and they will work together. A 352 and 390 will work for you. = The > 352,360 and 390 are in the same family and not considered a big = block.They are considered Y blocks. the 352,360 and 390 as well as 427 and 428 are not Y blocks. they are FE big blocks. ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:51:42 -0400 (EDT) From: JSanc82344 To: fordtrucks Subject: 56 F-100 A/C installation Message-ID: I am currently trying to install an A/C system in my 56 F-100. Can somebody tell me what could be the best donor truck or car for this project? I am in a budget and can't afford a $1,000 A/C system. I currently have a condenser from a 75 4x4 Jeep and a GM A/C compressor. I heard that perhaps a Bronco II evaporator could fit well in my 56. I'm sure that I will need custom made hoses. Any help on this will be greatly appreciated. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 97 01:44:06 UT From: "DONNA " To: fordtrucks Subject: engine mystery, maybe not Message-Id: Donald, We have a '73 F100 with a 360 that we are in the process of swapping for a 390. One thing we noticed is that the 390 has three holes on the right (passenger) side bottom of the engine where the oil pan bolts on (under the motor mount). The 360 doesn't have these holes. This (D5TE-9425-MB) is a Ford casting number so that Ford can identify what part is going on which vehicle. It does break down to a '75 intake part number. Since I work in the dealership's parts dept. I'll break down the number tomorrow and e-mail it back to you. It doesn't matter what numbers you find (i.e. D5TE... or D0FF) because many years are interchangable amongst different makes and models. Truck parts fit on cars and vise-versa. This casting number is on mine also and it's going from the 360 onto the 390. Hope that helped a little. If you have any other questions.... Steve and Donna Onholdintl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 08:22:09 -0500 From: "Donald R. Screen" To: fordtrucks Subject: EGR TVS location Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Keep in mind that the casting number only tells You *the first* year > and origion of production. For instance the 9" rear axle on my '71 F100 > is a C8AW, which indicates that this style axle was *first* used in > a '68 Galaxie, even tho Ford put it in a '71 truck.. > A carburetor stamped DOFF *may* be used on a '71 truck... > If You find parts stamped with dates later than Your vehicle, then You know > something's up. Thanks, Steve....did not know this.. The water neck currently has a 3 port TVS (a 235 degree TVS) for switching between intake manifold vacuum and ported vacuum at the distributor. Normal vacuum flow is from the ported vacuum port on the carb, until something like prolonged idleing raises the water temp above 235 degrees then the TVS switches to full intake manifold vacuum to raise advance the distributor timing and raise idle rpm thus cooling off the engine (at least that's the theory). It's my understanding that the EGR system would use a 2 port TVS (not 3 port). Should there be a second TVS also mounted on the water neck? (The EGR TVS can operate at one of 3 temps, depending on color code if I remember correctly) Just bought new rad hoses, thermostat, gasket etc. Gonna go change out the cooling system this morning. Will take another look at the water neck. > >The EGR TVS is missing, still > >not sure where the EGR TVS would have gone on this 390FE 4V manifold but > >no doubt it was plugged by some previous owner. > > The TVS lives on the water neck. There should be a threaded hole for it > unless this has been changed also. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 23:51:11 -0500 From: "Donald R. Screen" To: fordtrucks Subject: Oil Filter bypass? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I pulled the water pump on my 1974 F100 XLT Ranger today and noticed an odd looking device attached near the oil filter. It is mounted on top of a flange where the oil filter screws in. It is bell shaped with a small L shaped black tube coming out of it...sealed black tube. The device is about 2 inches high and about 1 inch in diameter. Is this some sort of oil bypass? Second question - Is there suppossed to be a steel fuel line running between the mechanical fuel pump and the carb? There is nothing but rubber fuel line there now. Is it safer to run a steel line? with smaller sections of rubber fuel line for the final connections? I have to run a line from the mechanical pump on the driver's side over to the passenger side rear section of the carb for my new Edelbrock 600 carb. Don PS. Many thanks to those of you who helped me in my attempts to identify my engine. After pulling the power steering brackets off today, I found the 352 casting number on the left (driver's side) front of the block. Will check Donna's suggestion and Dave's to further identify this motor. Definitely a 360 or 390. Will know more tomorrow. Three ways to verify a 390 vs a 360 1. 390 has 3 holes below motor mount on passenger side, 360 doesn't 2. 360 and 352 crank have half moon cut in it between flywheel and pan 390 doesn't 3. Stroke on a 360 is 3.50 in ...on a 390 it's 3.78 in. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:18:08 -0500 From: gusinks To: "Ford Truck Mailing List" Subject: While we're jacking things up.... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if there is a better method or at least an easier on for replacing the pan gaskets and seals in my 1973 F-100 302 cu in. My Haynes book says I will need to drain the radiator, take off the starter, loosen the motor mounts and such and then lift the engine up and turn the crank to counterweights up, disconnect the oil-pump and then drop the pan. I don't think that this is all impossible but is it all necessary? Surely someone out there has a better much more logical simpler method........I hope! Well anyway if you do let me know I am planning to do this on Monday the 14th. Thanks alot. Griz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:16:22 -0400 From: "Shaw, Eddie (MSMail Mailbox)" To: "'fordtrucks Subject: RE: fordtrucks-digest Digest V97 #107 Message-ID: I am looking for a 1956 Ford F100 in decent shape >You can respond to eshaw ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:57:05 +0000 From: Mark Tanner To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Edelbrock 600 carb - C6 kickdown Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fordtrucks-digest-request > > Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 17:17:10 -0500 > From: "Donald R. Screen" > To: fordtrucks > CC: edelbrock > Subject: Edelbrock 600 carb > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I just dropped an Edelbrock 600 carb on my 360 V8 > Trouble is the automatic transmission kickdown rod and throttle > linkage rod don't line up the Ford adapter linkage on the carb > Should I just bend the rods to get it to line up or is there > a better solution? > By adding the Ford adapter linkage to the Edelbrock carb as required, > the throttle and trans kickdown hookups have moved almost 2 inches over! > Anybody else done this mod? This is the setup I have on a 390. I did not have to bend the kickdown lever because there was enough slop in it to just move it over. Since there is an adjustment in the linkage, I can't see how there would be a problem if the linkage and rod operate smoothly. Also if you want to bend it to make it look straighter, I don't see why not since you will have to adjust it anyway. Now the only problem I have is understanding why the kickdown rod is there at all. My truck seems to shift down fine on the modulator alone and I can't find any references on what the purpose of the kickdown is, or how to adjust it. Can anyone help me there? Mark '74 F-250 Supercab 2WD -- Mark Tanner mtanner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:39:07 -0400 From: Kevin Kemmerer To: "'fordtrucks Subject: blue thunder Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is a question for all the horsepower nuts. Blue Thunder makes a set of heads for the 429/460 that are much better = than the stock early heads and better than the CJ heads. they used to = make them in both cast iron and aluminum. now they only make them in = aluminum. the rule book for the sactioning body that i truck pull under = requires cast iron heads. so, does anyone have, or know someone who has a set of the iron blue = thunder heads for sale or trade? i need them as i am competing against = trucks with them and even a $2000 porting job on the stock heads won't = flow enough to build the hp numbers i need (these guys run over 900 hp.) they were available with the ford exhaust port and a BB chevy port, = either would do just fine. thank you. sleddog ps.-if anyone is interested in the aluminum heads but doesn't know were = to get them (since ford motorsports doesn't sell them) i have a number = for engine systems, they sell them. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jul 97 07:54:52 EDT From: DC Beatty To: "'INTERNET:fordtrucks Subject: RE: Engine mystery Message-ID: I have always understood the definition of a big block to be the use of older, thick wall casting for the block (as opposed to thin wall casting, of course) and a longer stroke, smaller bore. Of course, this is just a general description and there are exceptions. My book, Ford Performance by Pat Ganahl, says: "The FE is cast in the 'Y-block' or extended skirt style and is of the older thick-wall construction;" (page 9). So I guess the answer to the question is, "Yes. Yes it is." DC Beatty 1967 F-100 352 1974 Maverick 302 ---------- From: INTERNET:fordtrucks Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 9:06 PM To: "'fordtrucks Subject: RE: Engine mystery Sender: fordtrucks-request Received: from t3.media3.net (t3.media3.net [208.5.7.1]) by dub-img-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.1) with ESMTP id XAA05656; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from lof 9 Jul 1997 23:01:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks-request Message-ID: From: Kevin Kemmerer To: "'fordtrucks Subject: RE: Engine mystery Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:05:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Loop: fordtrucks Precedence: list X-Distributed-By: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ Reply-To: fordtrucks look guys, FE blocks are Y-blocks. Y block is a type of casting. most modern engines are not Y-blocks with the exception that i know of the dodge V10. (i don't consider the FE a modern engine.) what is the definition of a big block? i thought it is a block casting that is larger than the same companies' smaller block - anyone got a better definition?. if that is the case, then the FE blocks are big blocks and i can tell you they are heavier than the 429/460. before the 429/460, the FE was THE ford big block. but all this arguing doesn't accomplish a damn thing. sleddog ---------- From: Chris James[SMTP:cjames Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 8:31 PM To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Engine mystery TACYCBR > > No a 460 intake will not fit your 360 heads. It and the 429 are in the same > family and they will work together. A 352 and 390 will work for you. The > 352,360 and 390 are in the same family and not considered a big block.They are considered Y blocks. the 352,360 and 390 as well as 427 and 428 are not Y blocks. they are FE big blocks. ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jul 97 07:54:57 EDT From: DC Beatty To: "'INTERNET:fordtrucks Subject: RE: Oil Filter bypass? Message-ID: Do you have an oil pressure gauge or a dummy light? I think this is the sending unit for the oil pressure gauge. It should have a wire going to the top. It screws right into the top of the oil filter mount that bolts into the block. Second question: Yes, I think it's supposed to be metal. I prefer metal, it probably is safer, but it all works, right? You ought to be able to rob a suitable piece off another truck at the boneyard, or, if you enjoy frustration, bend your own!!! You may have to with the Edelbrock carb. Hope this helps, DC Beatty 1967 F-100 352 1974 Maverick 302 ---------- From: INTERNET:fordtrucks Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 10:50 PM To: INTERNET:fordtrucks Subject: Oil Filter bypass? Sender: fordtrucks-request Received: from t3.media3.net (t3.media3.net [208.5.7.1]) by hil-img-7.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.1) with ESMTP id AAA21229; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from lof 10 Jul 1997 00:44:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks-request Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 23:51:11 -0500 From: "Donald R. Screen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fordtrucks Subject: Oil Filter bypass? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop: fordtrucks Precedence: list X-Distributed-By: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ Reply-To: fordtrucks I pulled the water pump on my 1974 F100 XLT Ranger today and noticed an odd looking device attached near the oil filter. It is mounted on top of a flange where the oil filter screws in. It is bell shaped with a small L shaped black tube coming out of it...sealed black tube. The device is about 2 inches high and about 1 inch in diameter. Is this some sort of oil bypass? Second question - Is there suppossed to be a steel fuel line running between the mechanical fuel pump and the carb? There is nothing but rubber fuel line there now. Is it safer to run a steel line? with smaller sections of rubber fuel line for the final connections? I have to run a line from the mechanical pump on the driver's side over to the passenger side rear section of the carb for my new Edelbrock 600 carb. Don PS. Many thanks to those of you who helped me in my attempts to identify my engine. After pulling the power steering brackets off today, I found the 352 casting number on the left (driver's side) front of the block. Will check Donna's suggestion and Dave's to further identify this motor. Definitely a 360 or 390. Will know more tomorrow. Three ways to verify a 390 vs a 360 1. 390 has 3 holes below motor mount on passenger side, 360 doesn't 2. 360 and 352 crank have half moon cut in it between flywheel and pan 390 doesn't 3. Stroke on a 360 is 3.50 in ...on a 390 it's 3.78 in. ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:21:29 -0500 From: "George Shepherd" To: Subject: Re: While we're jacking things up.... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No better way. Alternative is to pull the engine. ---------- > From: Clark Gustafson > To: Ford Truck Mailing List > Subject: While we're jacking things up.... > Date: Thursday, July 10, 1997 3:18 AM > > I was wondering if there is a better method or at least an easier on for > replacing the pan gaskets and seals in my 1973 F-100 302 cu in. My Haynes > book says I will need to drain the radiator, take off the starter, loosen > the motor mounts and such and then lift the engine up and turn the crank to > counterweights up, disconnect the oil-pump and then drop the pan. I don't > think that this is all impossible but is it all necessary? Surely someone > out there has a better much more logical simpler method........I hope! Well > anyway if you do let me know I am planning to do this on Monday the 14th. > Thanks alot. Griz > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:47:32 +0000 From: Don Grossman To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Engine mystery Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DC Beatty wrote: > > I have always understood the definition of a big block to be the use of older, > thick wall casting for the block (as opposed to thin wall casting, of course) > and a longer stroke, smaller bore. Of course, this is just a general > description and there are exceptions. > > My book, Ford Performance by Pat Ganahl, says: "The FE is cast in the 'Y-block' > or extended skirt style and is of the older thick-wall construction;" (page 9). > So I guess the answer to the question is, "Yes. Yes it is." > > DC Beatty > 1967 F-100 352 > 1974 Maverick 302 I can go with "The FE is cast in the 'Y-block' or extended skirt style". This works for me. When they were designed there was no 429/460 "Big Block", the FE series was it. I do not see that much in common with the 239-292 (Y-block) big block engines of the time. I took from the first post that they were in the same family. I say no. Placement of the crankshaft and the "extended skirt style" I will agree with. I may be wrong but I will always talk about either Y-blocks as such and the FE series accordingly, I just can't bring myself to think of them as the 236-428 Family. -- Don Grossman duckdon The scene; Bunch of NASA guys looking at TV monitor. "Look, A ROCK!" 63 Ford F-250 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:29:39 -0500 From: "George Shepherd" To: Subject: Re: Engine mystery Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Don Grossman > To: fordtrucks > Subject: Re: Engine mystery > Date: Thursday, July 10, 1997 3:47 AM > > DC Beatty wrote: > > > > I have always understood the definition of a big block to be the use of older, > > thick wall casting for the block (as opposed to thin wall casting, of course) > > and a longer stroke, smaller bore. Of course, this is just a general > > description and there are exceptions. > > > > My book, Ford Performance by Pat Ganahl, says: "The FE is cast in the 'Y-block' > > or extended skirt style and is of the older thick-wall construction;" (page 9). > > So I guess the answer to the question is, "Yes. Yes it is." > > > > DC Beatty > > 1967 F-100 352 > > 1974 Maverick 302.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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