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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 129

Today's Topics:

Unidentified subject! [rmeier connect.net (Roger Meier) ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [Dave Reynolds ]
'46 Ford F600 dually dumptruck with [Don Grossman ]
Re: safe engine operation Reply ["Wagger" ]
Re: Oil Bath Air Cleaner, trying to ["Wagger" ]
Re: safe engine operation [Karl Cunningham ]
Re: Alternative gas tanks [JRFiero aol.com ]
Hey Guys Look at this [Dave Reynolds ]
F-68 [billjhs ]
F-68 [billjhs ]
Admin news [Ken Payne ]
Re: Admin news Reply ["Wagger" ]
Re: Alternative gas tanks [petunia indy.net ]

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Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 22:08:32 -0800
From: rmeier connect.net (Roger Meier)
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> I'm about to empty, clean and remove a dent from the gas tank on my 55
> F100. Can someone share the "do's & don'ts on how to do this safely?
> Thanks.
>
> Gary

>Take it to a radiator shop and let them boil it out. Do not allow them
>to pressure it to look for leaks it will swell and not be the same.
>
>Molater
>Daver

If you take it to a radiator shop to have them "boil it out" they normally put it in an alkaline solution that will remove the galvanize plating from the inside and outside of the tank. It will then need to painted on the outside and sealed on the inside with an epoxy compound that may not be compatible with whatever gasoline the EPA edicts next. I would recommend a less harsh cleaner, like maybe dishwashing soap and water. Most of those are pretty good at removing petroleum residues.
Regards,
Roger Meier

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Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 22:52:07 -0500
From: Dave Reynolds
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Roger Meier wrote:
>
> > I'm about to empty, clean and remove a dent from the gas tank on my 55
> > F100. Can someone share the "do's & don'ts on how to do this safely?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Gary
>
> >Take it to a radiator shop and let them boil it out. Do not allow them
> >to pressure it to look for leaks it will swell and not be the same.
> >
> >Molater
> >Daver
>
> If you take it to a radiator shop to have them "boil it out" they normally put it in an alkaline solution that will remove the galvanize plating from the inside and outside of the tank. It will then need to painted on the outside and sealed on the inside with an epoxy compound that may not be compatible with whatever gasoline the EPA edicts next. I would recommend a less harsh cleaner, like maybe dishwashing soap and water. Most of those are pretty good at removing petroleum residues.
> Regards,
> Roger Meier

I have had a couple done and the place I took mine had several vats I
had no problem after I figured out why the first one didn't fit as well.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:20:09 +0000
From: Don Grossman
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Subject: '46 Ford F600 dually dumptruck with Marmon Harrington
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Hello there youall

I found this posted in the FourWheeler board. If anyone can help John
out with any information regarding Marmon Harrington conversions, or
places to find parts( I think Marmon Harrington is still in business or
was it NAPCO?) I'm sure he would be greatfull. If anyone has any
interest in this vehicle let him know.

I call this the SAOF Foundation (other wize known as recycling)

Save An Old Ford



> '46 Ford F600 dually dumptruck with Marmon Harrington 4 wheel drive
> conversion.

> Posted by John Powell on May 28, 1997 at 20:18:51:
>
> I have access to the formentioned truck. It has sat
> in the fields for some 10 years. It has been unused
> for 20 years. In the early 70's it was "rebuilt" by
> a ford dealer.
>
> It appears to be complete, even has all the original
> Marmon Harrington badges and plates. The only thing
> missing is the front bumper due to a plow that now
> resides there.
>
> My only cost to acquire this will be hauling it away.
>
> Should I snatch this up, or let it rest.
>
> Is there any inherent value or interest in Marmon
> Harrington Conversions?
>
> If this is worth the effort, I will need some contacts!
>
> A local BOCES Agricultural/Heavy/Farm Equipment repair
> teacher said he probably would be interested in it as
> a class project. All labor would be free, I just have
> to furnish the cash for parts.
>
> I fear that the engine may be in rough shape, there are
> no fluids in the engine, and the exhaust manifold is
> cracked. The tranny seems to shift OK though.
>
> The cab floor needs to be replaced, but otherwise all
> sheetmetal is sound and undamaged.
>
> WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>
> BTW, I have never attempted any restoration at all.
> This would be my first.
>
> I have no desire to return it to something original,
> just a Super HD truck to tool around town in.
>
> I would probably dump the dump "pun intended :)" in
> favor of a nice wooden stake bed using the dump
> mechanism.
>
> If you have detailed advice or knowledge of Marmon
> Harrington conversions please respond directly to my
> e-mail.

--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
63 Ford F-250 4x4

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 06:40:38 -0600
From: "Wagger"
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Hi Jeff,
As long as you don't drive it , it should be possible to at least start
it. we used to do this at the wrecking yards with motors that were sitting
on the ground. Even if you disconnect the Alt/gen wires, the motor will run
off of a fully charged batt. If you were going to drive it though that
presents a whole new set of problems with the wiring. E-mail me and let me
know how it's going or if you get stuck, Good luck

Charlie Sr.
tanya Tx3.com
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> From: Jeff Hazewinkel
> To: fordtrucks
> Subject: safe engine operation
> Date: Thursday, May 29, 1997 5:15 PM
>
> I am working on my 239 flathead V8 and want to safely start and run the
> engine. The wiring is a mess and I would like to avoid dealing with it
> until I get a new harness. Is it safe to just jump the motor at the
> starter? Should I install a temporary switch near the relay ? I am
> sure that there is a lot more that I am missing, but I want to hear this
> engine purr. (the engine was recently rebuilt and the individual I
> purchased it from says it runs nice)
>
> Jeff
>
>
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 06:44:13 -0600
From: "Wagger"
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Hi,
Think I know what it is. Some of them had a clamp around the base that
goes around the carb throat. It may be hard to see, but will loosen up
with a flat screwdriver or socket. Check it out. Good luck
Charlie Sr.
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> From: JRFiero aol.com
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: Oil Bath Air Cleaner, trying to convert to a Paper Element
Air Cleaner.
> Date: Thursday, May 29, 1997 4:31 PM
>
> In a message dated 97-05-27 17:37:13 EDT, you write:
>
>
cleaner,
> it wouldn`t budge. am I missing something? I would at least like to get
it
> open and check the oil level, is there a trick to getting these things
> open?
> >>
>
> Well, mine has a wing nut on top, with a threaded shaft down through the
> middle, and then the upper, smaller diameter section lifts up. If you
don't
> have a fastener on top, I'd try unscrewing the whole smaller piece. I'm
not
> familiar with all the different styles.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 14:46:04 -0700
From: Karl Cunningham
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Jeff --

First, make sure the engine isn't going to go anywhere from the torque. If
you have any problems starting it, you may have the throttle open some when
it starts, and the thing may want to jump around. If you have it on a
stand, put some heavy weights on the bottom of the stand, or better yet,
chain it down.

You should be able to just wire from a battery to the coil, and from the
coil to the distributor, then from the engine block back to the battery.
You really don't need to worry about a ballast resistor (assuming it's
supposed to have one) for running a short time. And you don't need any of
the rest of the wiring.

You can jump to the starter, but don't make the final connection at the
starter 'cuz the sparks may mess up the threads on the starter connection
stud. Try to make the final connection between two jumper cables -- don't
make any sparks near the battery.

Other than that, it should work fine. Obviously, don't let it overheat if
you don't have water in it. You could even hook a pressure gage to the oil
gallery and check that.


Karl Cunningham
karlc cnsii.com
1960 F250 factory 4x4

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:08:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: JRFiero aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Alternative gas tanks
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In a message dated 97-05-30 03:37:36 EDT, you write:


>list, I asked a questions about alternative gas tanks for my '64 with the
>tank behind the seat. I had a few answers that I have now lost. Anyone
>got any good suggestion for alternative locations, tanks to use, etc.??
>>
In my case (51), a panel truck gas tank would go inside the left frame
rail. I just happen to have one, with brackets, which is convenient. It
only holds 15 gallons vs the supposed 20 of the in-cab tank, but maybe I
could put one on each side? Anyway, check into panel truck tanks. Also,
I've recently seen plastic tanks for later 50s (I think) trucks, which looks
like the way to go, if you have the brackets.
Whats your purpose in relocating the tank? I'm thinking seat belts and a
little in-cab storage.

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 22:01:23 -0500
From: Dave Reynolds
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Subject: Hey Guys Look at this
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Hey guys I found a great set of catalogs from Lane Automotive. They
actually have 3 Circle track, truck accesories and drag racing stuff if
anyone is interested the catalogs are free the phone number is
(800)772-5266.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 17:27:37 -0400
From: billjhs
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Hello, Does anyone know if the Canadian F-68 (U.S. F-2) is rare ???

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:27:37 -0400
From: billjhs
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Hello, Does anyone know the particulars of the Canadian built Ford F-68
(U.S. F-2?)

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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 11:34:20 -0400
From: Ken Payne
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I've recently started receiving junk email again - something
that hasn't happened in months. I don't post to the newsgroups
with my email address (it has *spamremove* in the address name)
yet suddenly I'm receiving a ton of it again.

Where is this all leading and what does it have to do with the
Ford trucks? Well, since our web site is coming "online" with
several search engines it appears that my address is probably
being pulled off the web pages by the new generation web spambots.

In addition to my address, addresses belonging to several of our
members are on the pictorial pages. I'm going to add *spamremove*
to all the addresses on the website in order to give spam
protection to our members.

As a side note, most of the time our web server is pretty
responsive, sometimes its snail pace slow. Dragonfire Internet
Services is looking into performance improvements so it will
eventually get better.

Modifications to the web site will begin this evening. In the
works: private list members only section on the web pages (will be
password protected). Please let me know what you would like to
see there.

Now returning you to our regularly scheduled program.....

-Ken
1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 09:09:47 -0600
From: "Wagger"
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Hi Ken,
Maybe you should initiate "Spamspank" for "Spambots". Sorry couldn't
resist. Love that list split, now I have time to eat dinner. Keep up the
fine work.
thanks again,
Charlie Sr.
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> From: Ken Payne
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: Admin news
> Date: Saturday, May 31, 1997 9:34 AM
>
> I've recently started receiving junk email again - something
> that hasn't happened in months. I don't post to the newsgroups
> with my email address (it has *spamremove* in the address name)
> yet suddenly I'm receiving a ton of it again.
>
> Where is this all leading and what does it have to do with the
> Ford trucks? Well, since our web site is coming "online" with
> several search engines it appears that my address is probably
> being pulled off the web pages by the new generation web spambots.
>
> In addition to my address, addresses belonging to several of our
> members are on the pictorial pages. I'm going to add *spamremove*
> to all the addresses on the website in order to give spam
> protection to our members.
>
> As a side note, most of the time our web server is pretty
> responsive, sometimes its snail pace slow. Dragonfire Internet
> Services is looking into performance improvements so it will
> eventually get better.
>
> Modifications to the web site will begin this evening. In the
> works: private list members only section on the web pages (will be
> password protected). Please let me know what you would like to
> see there.
>
> Now returning you to our regularly scheduled program.....
>
> -Ken
> 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
> List Maintainer, send comments or suggestions to: kpayne mindspring.com
> Visit our web site (subscribe/unsubscribe forms are there):
> http://www.ford-trucks.com
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>
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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 20:19:39 +0000
From: petunia indy.net
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Hey Everyone,

On the subject of relocating the behind the seat gas tank....

I came across a parts catalog just the other day that had a neat
relocation kit. It is a sheet metal housing that covers your
existing tank and allows it to be placed in the bed of your truck...
taking up only 8 inches deep. (I think Ken had mentioned something
along these lines.) The kit is $360, and the ad says that this
company has this kit exclusively....that's what it says, anyways.

The catalog info:
Carolina Classics
F100 Parts
(919) 682-4211
Durham, NC

If you are a little handy with sheetmetal, I would think that you
could fabricate something for much less. The ad in the catalog has a
picture, which may be enough to get your creative juices flowing.

I also have been recently inspecting my wife's '93 Ranger pickup's
gas tank. I think I may be implementing this idea, instead. The....

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