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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 115

Today's Topics:

Re: 100mpg How-To ["C.D. Mutch"
Re: Rear Ends [Swell61 aol.com ]
Re: Rear Ends [Don Grossman ]
Re: 100mpg How-To [Swell61 aol.com ]
RE: aod trans [DC Beatty
Re: Rear Ends [Bfunixbs aol.com ]
Re: Modified '78 F100 [Daver ]
Re: 80 MPG???? Beg to differ Sir. [Daver ]
Re: Spun a bearing ["C.D. Mutch"
Topics [Ken Payne ]
Re: 80 MPG???? Beg to differ Sir. [silent.bob juno.com ]
vin decode [DC Beatty
RE: Spun a bearing [Randy Collins ]
Re: Topics ["C.D. Mutch"
Re: Spun a bearing ["C.D. Mutch"

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 01:18:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "C.D. Mutch"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 100mpg How-To
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Here's the plans to Mr. Mcburney's system. I'm sure he won't mind me
posting them as they can be found on his website anyway. He claims
100mpg with this system, and it's obvious he's got a lot of time and
money involved. Please feel free to print it out and share it with
friends. It's quite long and I apologize if this angers anyone out
there. I understand that we can't have every Tom Dick and Harry posting
whatever they want on this list, but I believe that it's all for our own
benefit to give this more thought. Thank you.

> In
> drawings which illustrate embodiments of this invention, figure 1 is an
>elevation partly in
> section of one embodiment of the process, figure 2 is a top view of this
>embodiment and
> Figure 3 is a cross section of this embodiment as viewed from the top.
>Drawings for
> Figures 1 and 2 found on page 9 and 10. 1 Is a fuel injector that is fed
>by 12 which injects
> gasoline droplets into a mixer block 2 where the gasoline droplets are
>mixed with steam
> produced in the coil 3 that is heated by hot exhaust gases which enter
>the steel heater 4 at
> 5 and which leave heater 4 at 6. Water enters coil 3 at 3, is converted
>to steam in coil 3 the
> flow rate of the steam is controlled by the steam control valve 7 and the
>control flow of
> steam is heated further and injected into and mixed with gasoline
>droplets in the mixer
> block 2. The mixture of steam and gasoline droplets pass into coils 8
>which are made from
> tubing. These coils are also mounted in heater 4. The heated mixture of
>steam and gasoline
> droplets become a mixture of steam and gasoline vapor which then enters
>the catalyst bed
> 9 which contains fine metal catalyst shavings and which is separated from
>heater 4 by a
> thermally conducting lubricant. The catalyst bed is easily removable, for
>catalyst
> regeneration or replacement at the connector blocks 11. The heated
>mixture of low
> molecular weight hydro carbons, methane and methanol, which are produced
>in catalyst
> bed 9, exit at 10 to be mixed with air for combustion. CLAIMS The
>embodiments of the
> invention for which an exclusive property or privilege is claimed is
>defined as follows: 1.
> The vaporization of gasoline droplets by waste heat from the exhaust
>gases of an engine to
> increase the efficiency with which chemical energy stored in gasoline is
>converted into
> propulsion power. 2. The catalytic conversion of a mixture of water and
>gasoline vapor to
> small molecular weight hydro carbons, methane and methanol. 3. The
>combustion in the
> internal combustion engine of a mixture of air, small molecular weight
>hydrocarbons,
> methane and methanol to produce less pollution of the atmospheric
>environment. 4. A
> process for generating methane and methanol for use in an internal
>combustion engine
> generated from gasoline and water by passing them over a catalyst heated
>by exhaust
> gases. 5. pre carburetion system consisting of a series of tubing and
>catalyst bed heated by
> exhaust gases to regain this heat energy into further cracking of a
>liquid hydrocarbon and
> water into a lighter more aromatic hydro carbon and methanol. This is
>from a Caveat I
> filed, November 10 1987. { A Caveat is a preliminary Patent application
>designed to
> register an idea before perfecting and filing a completed patent
>application.} This system
> will change the molecular structure of a hydro-carbon, and water into a
>finer compound
> state, methane or natural gas and methanol. Using a iron particle
>catalyst cartridge,
> vaporous gasoline and steam will be regulated into the cartridge then
>flow into a further
> heated coil to allow time for the hydro-carbon to crack into a smaller
>molecules this finest
> state, natural gas and methanol. This will align and lower the boiling
>point of the fuel for
> greater efficiency. Using heat from exhaust and electric energy from
>auxiliary generation,
> the iron will be maintained at a temperature of about 500 degrees C.
>Thermistors will
> monitor the temperature to input to a computer to control electric
>elements on cartridge.
> Catalyst cartridge will require replacement as iron surface is poisoned
>out. The gasoline
> and water feed lines will be preheated by coiling them around the exhaust
>pipe and
> insulating with foil and fiberglass. The gasoline will be controlled by
>fuel injection into a
> vaporizing coil maintaining a temperature 350 degrees C to maintain a
>complete vaporous
> state. The steam will be passed through a liquid trap to insure only
>vapor steam entering
> into iron catalyst cartridge. The main structure is cylindrical with
>center area access for
> catalyst cartridge replacement. The cartridge cylinder is directly
>exposed to electric
> elements and heated surface of exhaust gases. It will be filled with a
>catalytic material, a
> metal as steel, iron. Experimentation will produce a better catalyst. It
>will have two fittings
> one for input and one for output and will be baffled inside to allow
>greatest surface use and
> time exposure. The output of the system will be connected to a cooling
>coil then regulator
> for flow to engine. On the outside of the exhaust heat exchanger the coil
>for the gasoline
> vaporizer stage will be wrapped, also the liquid trap may be mounted on
>the end. When the
> steam and gasoline vapor enter the iron chamber the water is broken down,
>the oxygen
> forms with the carbon, creating methanol the hydrogen forms with
>hydro-carbon, cracking
> it into the finer form, natural gas. The entire unit except the cartridge
>should be made of
> stainless steel, for safety and long life. This system could work also
>with a standard
> carburetor or fuel injection for the warm up cycle with an automatic
>temperature sensing
> thermistor to automatically switch the system to natural gas production
>when proper
> operating temperature is obtained. This system will work and should be
>more efficient than
> the standard carburetor, as the reaction is endothermic. Regaining the
>wasted exhaust
> heat energy back into the fuel which now is natural gas and methanol that
>should give a
> more complete burn in the cylinder for more propulsion power. The
>compression ratio will
> be increased and the timing changed to enhance the burn of the new fuel
>for greater
> efficiency. The water gas explanation as found in the dictionary is one
>of the basis for this
> system. The formula: C + H2O = CO + H2 Using the presence of a catalyst
>and pressure
> and using a hydro-carbon as gasoline there is an efficient conversion at
>a lower
> temperature than required with the pure carbon. The formula will
>approximately be as
> C8H16 + H2O = CH3OH + C1H4. I have attached drawings of the later
>designed system.

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 01:18:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Swell61 aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Rear Ends
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You can buy the gears and have them installed cheaper than buying a new rear
end. around here used rear,s sell for $800-$1000. The gears and installation
should run around $300-$500. A 3.54 gear will get you about 18-20 mpg.
depending on your foot. Have you checked out the K&N air filters. I like
mine, just wash it and spray it with the recomened oil and you are ready to
go. ? do you have the 5 speed trany or auto.

Steve

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 01:18:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Don Grossman
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Rear Ends
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Jason Smith wrote:
>
> I have recently aquired a 1987 FWD F250 with a 6.9L Diesel. It has a
> 4.10 limited slip rear end according to the door axle code. I am
> currently getting about 14-15 mpg and I am wondering if going to a higher
> ratio would improve my mpg's very much. I am also wondering how much
> work would be invloved in changing the rear end. Do I have to get a
> whole new rear end or just change the gears? Any advice will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> J.T.S.
> 77 F150 351M
> 87 F250 6.9L

14 to 15 sounds good to me for the 6.9 but if you change the rear axle
gear you are going to have to change the front also. If you only use
your truck for highway driving and don't plan on changing from the stock
tire size you should see some increased mileage by switching to 3.55. I
wouldn't go any higher because your performace will drop off severerly
after that with 3.00 or 2.75. If you do any or plan to do any towing in
the future I would keep the 4.10 gears. Also if you plan or do any
offroad driving you mostlikely should keep the 4.10's. You could
increase your tire size a little next time you pick up some new skins
and that will help a little, assumming you have the stock size tires on
now.
--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
63 Ford F-250 4x4

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 01:18:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Swell61 aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 100mpg How-To
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

The exoust temp. will reach 800.-1000.deg if not hotter. They sell exoust
temp. sensors for the Ford diesel trucks. Try Banks turbo. or ATS. Though you
would like toknow.

Steve

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 01:20:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: DC Beatty
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: RE: aod trans
Message-Id:
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Jesse and Eric,

Sorry, I haven't been paying too much attention to the list lately, I've had
final exams. AAAAARRRRRGGG..

Anyway, I have a buddy that is an SAE certified genius tranny builder, and he
knows just about everything as far as I can tell. Please resend the original
question, and I should be able to have an answer for you within a week.
Sometimes he can be difficult to get hold of.

Again, my apologies. Send to me direct if you want.

DC Beatty 104452.1362 Compuserve.com
1967 F-100 352
1974 Maverick 302



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From: Jesse Marcellus[SMTP:MrsSlix66 msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 1997 5:04 AM
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: RE: aod trans

Eric, If you find out anything can you e-mail me at MrsSlix66 msn.com?
Reason being is my husbands Mark VII has the same disease. On his tranny, the
overdrive is gone but drive and reverse are alright. Enough people have told
me that drive and reverse are on the same belt since this happened, but
because I'm female, I get fed more absolutely wild advise than most. Why is
it that I no sooner get my truck paid off and start to really work on it than
something else happens to suck out cash flow!!!

Thanx - Kristen
1966 Ford F100 Custom Cab

Guess it's one of Murphy's laws. So far yours is pretty much the only response
I've gotten. After this amount of time, I'd say it's the only one I'm gonna
get.
I guess we're on our own, huh?
My feeling is that very few people mess with these things, and those that do
work for trans shops! I'll keep your msg on file just in case some kind soul
takes pity on me, but I'm not holding my breath:-)
Eric
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:19:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bfunixbs aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Rear Ends
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I think you might have some other issues to resolve first as far as mileage
goes. I have a 1989 F-250 w/ a 351 gas engine and I get an average of 16 and
sometimes 17 mpg. You really should check to make sure that everything checks
out first before going to the expense of changing gears. Another idea too,
would be going to a taller tire, depending on your selection, would change
the overall gear ratio.

CCR

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:25:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Modified '78 F100
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> Have a '78 F100 short-box step-side, doing a frame off restoration.
> Frame is lowered 3" in front, 4" in rear. Looking for any information

raise the top shock mount up so the shocks will fit. I assume (bad
thing to do) that you have access to a torch and welder.

Chassisworks Is a great place to get answers to these types of question
and they have goodies for those of us looking for bite and speed. Thier
phone number is (800)722-2269 and they have a great catalog.


Molater

Daver

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:25:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 80 MPG???? Beg to differ Sir.
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C.D. Mutch wrote:
>
> Helloo Daver.
> Seein' iz how a fart smeller... I mean smart feller as yerself knows so
> much about petro chemikills, mebee you could share your smarts un help
> me out with a solution. Yup yer right 'bout all dem accidents that
> happened, but the idea here is to make it safe. I need fresh ideas, not
> yesterday's news.
> --
> Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.

Yea your right I'm an ignerant so and so. BTW I've spent the last 15
years designing petrochemical plants and building fast cars.

The answer to your question is simple; however, it will not get 80 or
100 MPG but it will turn a 8 MPG engine into a 25 or 30 MPG engine. The
answer is compressed natural gas (not LPG) and the CNG has to be high is
olfins, something refineries remove because it's more profitable to sell
them separate. The other thing is there is an incorrect perception
concerning the safety of the tanks, fact is they are no more dangerous
than a half full gas tank. LPG also improves fuel effeciency and is
fairly common. LPG will (in most cases) at least double fuel economy,
run cleaner and reduce equipment wear and emmisions without toting a FCC
unit around and worring about your intake heat.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:28:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: "C.D. Mutch"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Spun a bearing
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Anybody know where I can get a good used front hub and spindle for my
'76 4X4? It's an F-100 with the dana 44. Any contacts would be much
appreciated.
--
Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:07:43 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Topics
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Some of the topics are really stretching it for truck content. We're
losing subscribers because of it. Words like "opinionated drivel",
"trucks not discussed" and "too much fluff" have been used to describe
content by people who've left.

Here is a clipping from our FAQ:

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Any and every topic relating to Ford trucks. Questions have ranged to
restoring antiques, building motors, mud flaps, modern EFI and diesels
to opinions about the looks of the 1997 F150. Questions are encouraged.
If it's Ford truck related - it's welcome.

(Note: this will be updated to reflect the fact that we now have two
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:07:04 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 80 MPG???? Beg to differ Sir.
Message-ID:

On Fri, 16 May 1997 02:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Daver writes:
>C.D. Mutch wrote:
>>
>> Helloo Daver.
>> Seein' iz how a fart smeller... I mean smart feller as yerself knows
>so
>> much about petro chemikills, mebee you could share your smarts un
>help
>> me out with a solution. Yup yer right 'bout all dem accidents that
>> happened, but the idea here is to make it safe. I need fresh ideas,
>not
>> yesterday's news.
>> --
>> Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.
>
>Yea your right I'm an ignerant so and so. BTW I've spent the last 15
>years designing petrochemical plants and building fast cars.
>
>The answer to your question is simple; however, it will not get 80 or
>100 MPG but it will turn a 8 MPG engine into a 25 or 30 MPG engine.
>The
>answer is compressed natural gas (not LPG) and the CNG has to be high
>is
>olfins, something refineries remove because it's more profitable to
>sell
>them separate. The other thing is there is an incorrect perception
>concerning the safety of the tanks, fact is they are no more dangerous
>than a half full gas tank. LPG also improves fuel effeciency and is
>fairly common. LPG will (in most cases) at least double fuel economy,
>run cleaner and reduce equipment wear and emmisions without toting a
>FCC
>unit around and worring about your intake heat.
>
>Molater
>
>Daver


I don't mean bust any ones bubble, but what does all of this have to do
about late model Ford trucks, or any Ford for that matter?

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Date: 16 May 97 09:59:30 EDT
From: DC Beatty
To: "'FORD TRUCKS'"
Subject: vin decode
Message-ID:

Can someone (John Strauss?) decode my vin for me? I would appreciate it.

F10KA43299

Also, I have the little tag that bolts on with the coil. There are some ###'s I
don't understand. In the top row there is the engine size, year and then the
number 9. What's the nine for?
The bottom row shows---6 L 290A. I don't understand this either.

Thanks. Any help will be appreciated.

DC Beatty
1967 F-100 352
1974 Maverick 302

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 07:46:38 -0700
From: Randy Collins
To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
Subject: RE: Spun a bearing
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From: C.D. Mutch [SMTP:cmutch mb.sympatico.ca]

Anybody know where I can get a good used front hub and spindle for my
'76 4X4? It's an F-100 with the dana 44. Any contacts would be much
appreciated.

If you can't find a hub and spindle in your area drop me a note. I =
bought new pieces for my 1977 1/2 F250 Dana 44 from a place in my area =
called Six State Distributors. I believe that they can supply you with =
all the Dana parts you need. =20

If you want used I would be happy to supply you with salvage yard phone =
numbers in my area. How far are you from Idaho? =20

Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
F250 4WD 460 C-6



-----Original Message-----
From: C.D. Mutch [SMTP:cmutch mb.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 1997 11:29 PM
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Spun a bearing

Anybody know where I can get a good used front hub and spindle for my
'76 4X4? It's an F-100 with the dana 44. Any contacts would be much
appreciated.
--
Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.



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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 08:55:52 -0700
From: "C.D. Mutch"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Topics
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> Some of the topics are really stretching it for truck content. We're
> losing subscribers because of it. Words like "opinionated drivel",
> "trucks not discussed" and "too much fluff" have been used to describe
> content by people who've left.

> I don't mean bust any ones bubble, but what does all of this have to do
> about late model Ford trucks, or any Ford for that matter?

I apologize if it seems that I've been using this list to serve my own
agenda. I didn't think that it would go this far and it has never been
my intent to drive anyone away from the list. From now on my topics will
relate only to dem beautiful '79 and down F-series and '68 and down
M-series. I will however take exception to this upon the success of my
home built vapor-carb.
Wether anyone cares or not, my collection of ford trucks consist of a....


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