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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 106

Today's Topics:

RE: Mercury trucks? [Ken Payne ]
Re: Holly 1850-2 applications (ci. e [rick adc.com (Rick Larson) ]
Re: 1955 f350 Reply ["Wagger" ]
80MPG!!! HOT ROD MAG REFERENCE [Kevin Kemmerer ]
RE: About 60 [Kevin Kemmerer ]
Re: Holly 1850-2 applications (ci. e [William Sabers
Re: 1955 Ford f-500 [JIM HURD ]
Re: '77 F-150 gear ratio [JIM HURD ]
rear ends ["James A. Doty" ]
Re: 80MPG!!! HOT ROD MAG REFERENCE [JIM HURD ]
Re: Holly 1850-2 applications (ci. e ["James A. Doty" ]
80 MPG???? [Chris North ]
Re:Yet another PCV question... ["Jon" ]
Build Sheet? [kr4rf pipeline.com ]
Re: 1955 Ford f-500 ["Tero Saarelainen" ]
OD unit add-on [AM14 chrysler.com ]
THUNDERBIRD V8 72 PICKUP WHAT-?? [MLawing616 aol.com ]
rear [Gardner ]
Re: rear [Ken Payne ]
Re: 80 MPG???? Beg to differ Sir. ["Wagger" ]
Re: King pins, disc brakes (was Merc [JRFiero aol.com ]

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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 08:03:07 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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-snip-
>
>I can't for the life of me find it but someone from Ford Car Clubs
>Western Region emailed me a few weeks ago and said I was incorrect
>to list "Mercury antique" trucks as allowable members to our list
>because they still made them! I've never seen a new one, anyone
>here know?
>
>If trucks are classed as trucks, and vans are classed as trucks, then I guess
>Mercury Villagers are trucks!

True.

>Oh, by the way, thanks for the info on greasing kingpins! I went out Tuesday
>night and fixed them up and now I can I can turn the steering wheel without
>bracing my feet on the floor.
>

It also helps (greasing the kingpins) if you ever decide to switch over
to disc brakes. King pins that haven't been greased in a while may require
a hydraulic press to remove - if they are greased they come out easily
which means disc brake conversion can be done at home on a Saturday.

>Could you re-post where to send donations to support the list? I have to go
>to the bank on Saturday to get a US money order to send unless you want some
>lovely multi-colored Canadian "pesos" !!!
>
>Kristen
>1966 Ford F100 Custom Cab and List "kid"
>

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Thanks! This quarter both lists are paid for (sent the check yesterday)
but we will have a $60 invoice in 3 months so everything helps. On the 15th
I present our "treasury report" to the list. (Oh, my wife said it was ok
to pay $10-$20 every quarter out of my own pocket - she controls the budget)

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:14:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: rick adc.com (Rick Larson)
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Holly 1850-2 applications (ci. ect) and cfm
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William,

> P.S. I have one in my garage... what's it worth to anyone....
> I also have a 302 4bbl intake taht I will not use

Where are you located? Any idea if it will fit my 289?

BTW, is the intake cast iron or aluminum.

rick
'66 Mustang coupe
'71 F100 daily driver
--
Rick Larson rick adc.com
Minneapolis

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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 07:22:20 -0600
From: "Wagger"
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Hi JT,
I lost my dad in '88 alson and I can tell you if I had a chance to buy his
65 F-350, dually, shortbed, 4-spd. I'd probably be guilty of paying more
for it than it's worth. I think this is one of those purchases that
trancends resale value. For me it would be bad enough not to have the
truck, but to sell it after finding it would be even worse. I am staring at
a picture of my dad and me sitting on the hood of his new '61 Land Rover,
wish I could find that one .
Good Luck and take care,
Charlie Sr.1965 F-250 390
Charlie Jr. 1964 F-100 223
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> From: John Pease
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Subject: 1955 f350
> Date: Thursday, May 08, 1997 3:44 PM
>
> I need some help concerning a pick up I'm considering buying and I was
> wondering if someone out there could help me. If I sound like a novice
> about this it is because I am, please bear with me.
>
> When my father died in 1988 he had in his possession a 1955 f350 Ford ton
> pick up with an overhead V-8 engine and a 8ft box. It had 50,000 actual
> miles on it and little to no rust on the body. It now has only 58,000
> miles on it. My grandfather and my father bought it new the year I was
> born. I went everywhere with my dad in that pick up (I was what is
refered
> to as Daddy's little girl). I learned to drive using that pick up!
After
> Dad died my sister insisted on selling it to one of dad's friends for
> $1000. I reluntantly went a long with her decision, because I had no
where
> to keep it at the time if I bought her out. Now my situation has changed
> and I have a place to keep it. I have a chance to buy it back for
$3,000.
> The man who bought it overhauled the engine, put new brakes in it,
> repainted it, put Oak trim on the box, oak boards and chrome moldings on
> the box floor, and oak side rails on the box. He also put chrome bumpers
> on it, and a big chrome contraption on the front ahead of the grill area
> that resembles a round metal headboard on a bed (told you I was a
novice!)
> He mentioned several other things he did to it also.
>
> My question is does it sound like it is worth $3000. If I have to sell
it
> at a later date, do you think I'd get most of my money back?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:00:21 -0400
From: Kevin Kemmerer
To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
Subject: 80MPG!!! HOT ROD MAG REFERENCE
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just FYI - if you look into some old HOT ROD mags, circa 1980-1985, =
there is an article, actually a few, where smokey yurick, the great =
racer, built a similiar contraption on a fiero 4 cyl. he got 50 mph and =
hp to break many axles in testing. i understand his idea was purchased =
and since then . . .

one thing different about his method, was the use of a turbocharger. if =
you are undecided about whether or not this is true, go to the library =
and get those old hot rod mags and start reading. maybe someone else =
can collaberate the story?

as for the other methods (pogue etc) i'll keep my mouth shut so as not =
to start a whole other thread about the design specifics. suffice to =
say, there are many flaws, but the theory is all there.

sleddog racing
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
if a little is good, and alot is better
THEN TOO MUCH IS JUST ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:45:56 -0400
From: Kevin Kemmerer
To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
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i think the best thing you could do is buy another axle housing that has =
the parts you need, minus the locker.
then buy the locker to fit the spline number you have. although i =
believe the swap can be done, it is not much work to replace the whole =
housing, and getting a whole one is the easiest/cheapest way to get the =
swap parts you need.
plus the whole assembly can be cleaned/rebuilt/painted etc off the =
truck. if you have a service shop set up new gears they will also =
charge less if it is off the truck already.

also, i HAD a detroit locker in my 77 ford 9" rear. the locker worked =
fantastic. this locker with a torson-gleason dif in the front worked =
wonders on the street/trail/pull track/mud bogs!
i say had, as the t-g front blew apart 4 wheeling and the center section =
of the 9" split into 2 pieces at warren count fair pulling the =
terminater sled (it was my best pull last year too, until...). the =
locker did not break, it was the housing-the pinion climbed up the ring =
gear and busted out the top of the housing.

kevin

ps - make sure you order the correct spline for the locker as they are =
available in many different sizes.
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From: Don Grossman[SMTP:duckdon pacific.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 1997 4:18 PM
To: Ford list
Subject: About 60

Hello all

In the back end of my 63 There is a Dana 60 with 16 spline axels and the
little 2" drums of the time. My question is, Is it possible to upgrade
to 30 or 35 spline axels and larger 3" drums from a newer Dana 60? I
know I will need a new carrier so I plan on replaceing the LS diff with
some type of locker. This part should not be a problem but do the
diameter of the spindles match that of a newer rear end and will the
axels be of the correct leangth? I would like to keep the rear end
housing on the truck and only replace the entire thing if a parts swap
is not possible.

TIA
--=20
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
63 Ford F-250 4x4


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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:30:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Sabers
To: Rick Larson
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Subject: Re: Holly 1850-2 applications (ci. ect) and cfm
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I am in Vermillion SD..
The Manifold is cast... if you want good flow, cast flows better
than aluminum, just get it ported and polished....


> William,
>
> > P.S. I have one in my garage... what's it worth to anyone....
> > I also have a 302 4bbl intake taht I will not use
>
> Where are you located? Any idea if it will fit my 289?
>
> BTW, is the intake cast iron or aluminum.
>
> rick
> '66 Mustang coupe
> '71 F100 daily driver
> --
> Rick Larson rick adc.com
> Minneapolis
>
>
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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 10:34:26 -0500 (EST)
From: JIM HURD
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 1955 Ford f-500
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Slight correction.....'53 (not '52!) was the last year for the flathead V-8
in Ford cars.

Jim in Central NY
'79 F-150 (302!)
'92 Topaz (3.0l)

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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 10:40:01 -0500 (EST)
From: JIM HURD
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: '77 F-150 gear ratio
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Lance wrote:

>I would consider highway gears to be in the neighborhood of between 2.75 and
>3.25.
>Anything above that and the engine has to be really turning.

But what if you have an overdrive 4-speed stick shifter?

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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 07:55:07 -0700
From: "James A. Doty"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: rear ends
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Hi Fordsters:

I got a build sheet recently for my '78 E-150.

I wasn't surprised by the gear ratio it is 3.25:1.

I was surprised to discover that my van has a limited slip rear end.

How well will this rear end perform when I rebuild the engine for the
350 hp or so I'm interested in attaining?

I'm not really interested in changing the ratio though. I think 3.25
will be fine.
======================
James A. Doty
Assistant Web Master
jamesd e-z.net
E-Z Net, Inc.
209 NE 120th. Ave., Suite B
Vancouver, WA 98684
(360) 260-1122
KI7EL

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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 11:07:49 -0500 (EST)
From: JIM HURD
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 80MPG!!! HOT ROD MAG REFERENCE
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And HOT ROD used to praise the SplitFires, too!

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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 08:11:23 -0700
From: "James A. Doty"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Holly 1850-2 applications (ci. ect) and cfm
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At 12:09 AM 5/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Just my $.02 worth...
> Holley 600cfm carbs are good to get a few xtra ponies, but
>in my opinion, (which may not be worth a damn) hey are not worth a damn
>because the price you pay in gas mileage gives it to you in the shorts...
>
>Wsabers
>
>P.S. I have one in my garage... what's it worth to anyone....
>I also have a 302 4bbl intake taht I will not use


Here's a silly question. What size engine is it for? Would it work
on a 351 (W I believe)? I already get 8mpg and my engine is extremely
dog like. This weekend I'm hoping to replace my stock exhaust with
three inch pipes and high performance muffler. I'm saving up for tuned
exhaust headers also. I might have them installed by late summer if I'm
lucky.

TTFN
======================
James A. Doty
Assistant Web Master
jamesd e-z.net
E-Z Net, Inc.
209 NE 120th. Ave., Suite B
Vancouver, WA 98684
(360) 260-1122
KI7EL

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 22:35:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris North
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: 80 MPG????
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I just read the aritcle supplied by the URL that started this thread. I've
seen it, heard it, and been through it all before. In short, it'a a scam.

If anybody believes that there is a device that will produce these results
(80 MPG and exhaust so clean you can breathe it!), but it is being kept
from the public to provide bigger profits to the oil companies (with
support from the US gov't, none the less), please send me your $10. It may
not improve my mileage, but it will definately lower my out of pocket fuel
expenses!

One thing in the article has something I can believe. This scam has been
around since the 1930's. This guy is just another con man looking for
investors (want to buy into a gold mine in Borneo?). Believe me, if such a
device was technologically feasible, it would be exploited. And in a big
way.

Or maybe I'm just a crazy old man. What we should really do is connect our
PCV systems to our gas tanks and send our kids to college on the savings
that will soon start pouring in.

chris north

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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:34:55 -0800
From: "Jon"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re:Yet another PCV question...
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> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 20:41:47 -0500
> From: "Eric and/or Denise"
> To:
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> Jon wrote:
>
> > PCV "Positive Crankcase Ventilation"
> > EGR "Exhaust Gas Recirculation"
>
> > Now it's Ford trucks I run Windsor's and I don't run PCV
> > because of the envirement that I'm in DUST, would kill
> > A PCV Valve Quick, trust me I know, I tried it cloged
> > up real quick.
>
> Jon, I am no expert on this by any means, and I am not familiar
> with the Windsor, but I like to learn..... so I ask questions...
> When I'm looking
> at my manual for the flow of air through a Yblock engine, (I'm
> ASSUMING the basic operation of pcv is very similar to most
> engines) I notice that air goes entirely through the engine
> before it hits the pcv to clog it up. You say from your
> experience that you can't run a pcv in those dusty conditions because
> it kills pcvs quick...
> I don't mean to ask a foolish question, but don't you have a filter
> on the intake? Didn't that dirt that clogs up the pcv valve have to
> go through the engine, and most of it would get stuck in the oil,
> allowing a small percentage of the dust to remain "airborn" to
> eventually clog the pcv... no? If this is the case, how do you keep
> that engine running with all that dirt in the oil and engine?
>
> >So another way to get rid of pressure is to vent it into
> > the exhaust and let the vacum of the the exhaust pull
> > it out.
>
> Just for kicks, I wonder if it is possible to hook up the
> baloney-sliced vent tube on a 292 to the exhaust pipe that run
> within 6 inches of each other? Can one have too much vacuum on a
> crankcase ventilation system that was designed with the
> vent-tube-partial-vacuum-while-in-the-wind-system??? Would this
> even produce ANY positive effects?
>
> Just some questions... Any thoughts?
>
> Eric
> petunia indy.net
> erickson vitro.bloomington.in.us
> =============================
> "Happy Days"
> 1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
> w/'59 292 Y-block
> =============================
>
> ------------------------------

Eric,

Well about ten min. after I posted this i started thinking about the
same thing the motor full of dirt and I have two K&N filters on the
valve covers. So yesterday I started poking around at the old setup
well after cutting apart the PCV valve which was pluged I cut apart
the oil filter, its's clean so I pulled the oil pan its clean and
just for kicks I pulled one of the main caps, bearings are clean.
OK well it turns out that it happened after the power steering belt
flew off at a race, it must of knocked the PCV loose when we came in
to have the belt changedone of the crew saw the PCV hanging and put
it back in but did not tell me, you can't see whats going on from
inside the truck. So I started asking the crew no, one one would cop
to it, then I finally broke them, the did not want to tell me, they
thought I would get mad for them not changing it, they had a spare
it was a time thing because I was yelling from inside the truck for
them to hurry up.So now with the new setup all the better one less
thing for the crew to worry about.

As for the Y-block, not the most modern thing out there, but hey if
you can find parts for it I say more power to you.

I don't see why it would not work by routing into the exhaust
every little bit helps.

moral of this story: check everything lame crew does.

jon
URJB Racing...because walking sucks!
VORRA #827 class 8
FORD F-150 svo power
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.urjb.com

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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 11:41:00 -0400
From: kr4rf pipeline.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Build Sheet?
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I've seen postings indicating that build sheets could be obtained for
older Fords, specifically my 77 F150. Could someone post or e-mail
the address to contact?

Thanks!
=3D=3D =3D=3D =3D=3D =3D=3D

Jim

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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 19:15:28 +0300
From: "Tero Saarelainen"
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A BIG HI to all!

I am new in this mailing list. I have own my first Ford pickup from year
1988 and it is 1962 F-100 Unibody with 8 foot bed and 292 Y-block and
manual transmission. I have also 1961 F-100 Unibody with 6 foot bed and
planning to install 292 Y-block with C4, yes you saw right. Then I have 36
or 37 Ford pickup, not deside what the year will be because I don't have
cab to it but I have both grilles. Then I have another vehicle but it is
not pickup, it is 1952 Mercury Monterey 4D sedan. And my everyday car is
German made 1975 Ford Taunus STW.

Here is what I know of the last year of flathead.

'53 was last year of flathead in cars and trucks. In 1954 Ford introduced
the ohv Y-block engine, which was in Ford cars and trucks 239ci and Mercury
cars 256ci. The 256ci was also used in Ford cars as police interceptor
motor.

I hope this helps.

Tero Saarelainen
FINLAND
teros dlc.fi

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> thing that really makes me wonder is the flathead. If it's a 55 it
> wouldn't have a flathead, but if it's a 53 it would (52 was the last
year
> for the flathead). Grilles can be changed, and so can engines, but I
> suspect you've got a 53.
>
> My first thought was that it would be a 53, because I thought 53 was
the
> last year for flatheads. 52 was the last year for flatheads in cars, the
> trucks had them at least up to 53. However, I consulted my now-suspect
> "Catalog of Ford Truck ID Numbers 1946-1972," and it lists 239ci V8
engines
> in F-series up through 55, and even a 256ci V8 in 55. Those are flathead
> displacements (even tho I've been calling it a 255 previously). There's
> something called a Courier truck which shows a 272 beginning in 55. I
hope
> we get some more definitive answers posted.

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Date: Fri, 9 May 97 13:32:34 EDT
From: AM14 chrysler.com
To: "FOMOCO Truck B/S list"
Subject: OD unit add-on
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I am in possesion of a complete OD transmission (3 speed w/elect OD) from an
early 70's F150. I am aslo rebuilding, from the ground up, 2 '77 4X4's. One is
an F250, C6 and the other is an F350 that has been cut/lengthened to 185"wb
and has an NP435 (?) 4 speed. I would like somehow to install the 3 speed OD
unit where the 'jackshaft' is between the tranny and the transfer case.
Anybody out there ever done anything like this??? How/where do I get the
necessary parts to convert the front of the 3 speed so it will accept a
'YOKE/U-JOINT' type set up??? I know for a fact large trucks use this type
setup for auxillary transmissions (one directly behind the other), but all
their parts are much too heavy duty for this. Or, is there a better
suggestion?? I need some ideas from some of you that made/fabricated some of
your own mods. I know there are aftermartet suppliers of OD units out there
but they are tooooo expensive for my blood!!! Anybody know what happened to
the "Honematic" offered by Hone mfg several years ago??? What happened to Hone
mfg for that matter???

Any help/suggestions appreciated.

WORKING TO BE THE BEST
Azie Magnusson
PROFS ID (AM14):E-Mail AM14 Chrysler.com
Tie Line (835-2578):Outside (205)464-2578

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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 13:55:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: MLawing616 aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: THUNDERBIRD V8 72 PICKUP WHAT-??
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A 1972 Ford F100 pickup I just purchased has a 1988 ford thunderbird 5.0 fuel
injected V8 complete engine with all 1988 EPA polution equipment still hooked
up on the engine,the question I have is "where is the PCV valve,its not on
the valve cover,and I have not been able to find it" PLEASE HELP ME !!!!

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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 14:09:18 -0500
From: Gardner
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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I have a 94 Ford Ranger Splash it has a locking differential with 3.73
gears according to FORD. How does this locking differential work, seems
like sometimes it does what it is suppose to and others it doesn't.
Thanks

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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 14:20:56 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: rear
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>I have a 94 Ford Ranger Splash it has a locking differential with 3.73
>gears according to FORD. How does this locking differential work, seems
>like sometimes it does what it is suppose to and others it doesn't.
>Thanks

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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:10:20 -0600
From: "Wagger"
To:
Subject: Re: 80 MPG???? Beg to differ Sir.
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Hi,
Jumpin' into the fray, couldn't help it. Although this seems far fetched,
and I am not a consriracy theorist, it does sound plausible.Please indulge
me for a minute. I have personal knoledge of a man 10 miles from me that
was involved in something like this. He designed and built 3 electric cars
(from scratch).
They had 17 patented devices/mechanisms and were a practical, economical
design going in excess of 150 miles between charges. Now remember I know
this man personally. The Atlantic Richfield Co. (ARCO) had a rep. attending
an experimental car show at the Kingdome in Seattle,WA. Through a series of
negoiations, this man, his patents, and all but 1 of his cars, were
purchased. A covenant of non-competition was signed and he was paid
handsomley, by ARCO, to never produce this car.
I used to hang out at his garage when I was first getting into cars and
knew him to be of modest means. After the purchase, he bought a 70,000
motorhome,2 new cars and 5000 acres in Montana. This stuff happens even
though we don't want to believe it. And as far as the government hiding
things, well remember 10 years ago there was "no such thing as a Stealth
Bomber "
Thanks for your time,
Charlie Sr. 1965 F-250
"Not Stealth technology, but definitly more dependable"

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> From: Chris North
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: 80 MPG????
> Date: Thursday, May 08, 1997 9:35 PM
>
> I just read the aritcle supplied by the URL that started this thread.
I've
> seen it, heard it, and been through it all before. In short, it'a a
scam.
>
> If anybody believes that there is a device that will produce these
results
> (80 MPG and exhaust so clean you can breathe it!), but it is being kept
> from the public to provide bigger profits to the oil companies (with
> support from the US gov't, none the less), please send me your $10. It
may
> not improve my mileage, but it will definately lower my out of pocket
fuel
> expenses!
>
> One thing in the article has something I can believe. This scam has been
> around since the 1930's. This guy is just another con man looking for
> investors (want to buy into a gold mine in Borneo?). Believe me, if such
a
> device was technologically feasible, it would be exploited. And in a big
> way.
>
> Or maybe I'm just a crazy old man. What we should really do is connect
our
> PCV systems to our gas tanks and send our kids to college on the savings
> that will soon start pouring in.
>
> chris north
>
>
>
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