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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 104

Today's Topics:

Re: Mercury trucks? [rlr ]
Not to worry [Ken Payne ]
RE: 56 F100 power steering [mcat epix.net ]
1955 f350 [jtcollie acsnet.com (John Pease) ]
Overdrive in C-6? [Gerald and Lisa Hoel
75 ford 4x4 ["Joe Meredith" ]
Re: 1955 f350 ["Jim '73 F 100 302"
Re: 1955 f350 [Ken Payne ]
Re:vindication ["Jon" ]
Mercury Truck ["Jim '73 F 100 302"
Re: 56 F100 power steering ["Jim '73 F 100 302"
Re: What is going on? [Chris North ]
Re: Mercury Truck [Ken Payne ]
RE: Mercury trucks? ["Ryan Penner" ]
Re: 454 in an Econoline????? [Daver ]
F-100 Build Sheets ["Eric and/or Denise"
Yet another PCV question... ["Eric and/or Denise"
Re: '77 F-150 gear ratio [Daver ]
Re: 3 point belts. [LanceWaldn aol.com ]
Re: '77 F-150 gear ratio [Daver ]
80MPG!!! ["Eric and/or Denise"
Re: Getting better gas mileage PCV ( [Daver ]
Re: Holly 1850-2 applications (ci. e [Daver ]
Door Locks Survey ["Eric and/or Denise"

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 16:30:57 -0400
From: rlr
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Ken Payne wrote:
>
> I can't for the life of me find it but someone from Ford Car Clubs
> Western Region emailed me a few weeks ago and said I was incorrect
> to list "Mercury antique" trucks as allowable members to our list
> because they still made them! I've never seen a new one, anyone
> here know?

Maybe he was referring to the sport utility vehicles peddled
under the Mercury and Lincoln marques?

If someone knows of a post-50s Mercury pickup truck, I'd like
to see it. Come to think of it, I've never seen a Mercury truck
in person, nor a good detailed picture. Are there any on line?

Ron

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 16:37:24 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Not to worry
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If anyone gets a subscribe/unsubscribe message or duplicate
messages over the next hour or two, ignore them. It seems
that some people have had some trouble subscribing to the
new list so I'm going to do it manually. Unsubscribe messages
only means that you were a duplicate subscriber (my fault)
and its being fixed.

Sorry this transition is a hassle!

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
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Date: Thu, 8 May 97 15:18:37 PDT
From: mcat epix.net
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: RE: 56 F100 power steering
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Erik,
Many moons ago Iconverted my 56 to power steering. I did it the hard
way, by hunting junkyards for the right pieces. Recently Isaw the same
system in Sacramento vintage ford catalog. It uses power asist this works
just fine. If they offered this years ago, Iwould have bought it in a
heartbeat. My biggest headache was the slave clyinder mount. But the kit
looks more factory than you can imagine. Also the latest issue ofFord
Truckin, Summer 1997, there is an article on power steering. They use the
same system, but it was supplyed by SoCal Pickups. As far as your 292
Iwould look for a 55-early 60`s car with 292-312 motor to get the pump and
brackets from. The GM power box system is fine but more work, also if you
decide to ever change motors you may run into header clearence. I know, I
almost did, but changed my mind last year. My 427 headers would have
reqired me to move the motor and trans forward and tothe right. Its nose
heavy enough as it is and looks stock to boot, so Ileft the power asist
alone. Keep the pins greased and it steers like a champ. hope this helps.
Garry
--- On Mon, 5 May 1997 09:53:16 +0000 "Erik J. O'Daniel"
wrote:

>What are my chances of finding the right stuff to convert my 56F100
>to power steering? I had a 73 CJ-5 a while ago that I almost did
>this to, so I know what'd be required partswise. I'm just not
>certain where I'd find steering boxes and pumps and brackets,
>etc.
>
>I've got a later-year 292 and don't even know if it has propoer
>places to mount brackets for the pump.
>
>Any done this?
>
>Erik O'Daniel
>Boise, Idaho
>
>
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Name: Garry
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Date: 5/8/97 Time: 3:18:37 PM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:44:26 -0500
From: jtcollie acsnet.com (John Pease)
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: 1955 f350
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I need some help concerning a pick up I'm considering buying and I was
wondering if someone out there could help me. If I sound like a novice
about this it is because I am, please bear with me.

When my father died in 1988 he had in his possession a 1955 f350 Ford ton
pick up with an overhead V-8 engine and a 8ft box. It had 50,000 actual
miles on it and little to no rust on the body. It now has only 58,000
miles on it. My grandfather and my father bought it new the year I was
born. I went everywhere with my dad in that pick up (I was what is refered
to as Daddy's little girl). I learned to drive using that pick up! After
Dad died my sister insisted on selling it to one of dad's friends for
$1000. I reluntantly went a long with her decision, because I had no where
to keep it at the time if I bought her out. Now my situation has changed
and I have a place to keep it. I have a chance to buy it back for $3,000.
The man who bought it overhauled the engine, put new brakes in it,
repainted it, put Oak trim on the box, oak boards and chrome moldings on
the box floor, and oak side rails on the box. He also put chrome bumpers
on it, and a big chrome contraption on the front ahead of the grill area
that resembles a round metal headboard on a bed (told you I was a novice!)
He mentioned several other things he did to it also.

My question is does it sound like it is worth $3000. If I have to sell it
at a later date, do you think I'd get most of my money back?


Thanks!


JT

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 18:13:42 -0400
From: Gerald and Lisa Hoel
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Overdrive in C-6?
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Does anyone have any ideas about whether it's possible to add an
overdrive to a C-6 transmission, how hard would it be, expensive and
would it be worth it.
My husband has gotten a burr in his backside about adding overdrive to
our '77 Ranger 351M-C6 automatic. We just went through an expensive
rebuild, so this would probably be 6-8 mos down the road. We believe the
transmission has had a shift kit installed. Anyone with ideas, thanks in
advance.

Gerald & Lisa
'77 F-150 Ranger Flareside (351M .060)

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:23:36 -0400
From: "Joe Meredith"
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I've got a 75 ford 4x4 that I was gonna put my cab on a 76-79
Bronco will this work. Also I've not seen a 73-77 Bronco only
78-79 why is that.

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:41:14 -0700
From: "Jim '73 F 100 302"
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It seems to me JT, that $3,000 is not a bad price, not
having seen the truck but it sounds like it looks good to
me! Sorry to hear of your fathers passing, I think your
father would be proud that his little girl was the Women
behind the wheel of his classic '55 F 350! If you have the
money I think you should go for it, but only you can be the
judge! Please let me know if you do get it I'd like to hear
more. Thank you for your post.
Hope to hear from you again!
Later!




Jim Strigas jstrigas worldnet.att.net
'73 Ford F100 (302 2bbl C4 Auto Ford 9" 3.25. Daily
driver)
'83 Yamaha XJ900RK (Best Gift of my life! From my best
friends! RSCL)
'77 Buick EstateWagon (Beast of Immense Magnitude!)

These are "The Good Old Days"!
Be Cool Daddy-O B-)>

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 18:54:56 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 1955 f350
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At 03:41 PM 5/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>It seems to me JT, that $3,000 is not a bad price, not
>having seen the truck but it sounds like it looks good to
>me! Sorry to hear of your fathers passing, I think your
>father would be proud that his little girl was the Women
>behind the wheel of his classic '55 F 350! If you have the
>money I think you should go for it, but only you can be the
>judge! Please let me know if you do get it I'd like to hear
>more. Thank you for your post.
>Hope to hear from you again!
>Later!
>
>

I'd like to add to Jim's comments by saying that if you
can get a scanned in photograph of it I would like to
post it on the web site for all the world to see. Send
a description with it and we can have it as a tribute to
him. (send it to kpayne mindspring.com) We get 100-200
visitors a day to our site so a fair number of people will
see it.

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:00:48 -0800
From: "Jon"
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>
> Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 23:54:49 -0600
> From: Randy Collins
> To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
> Subject: RE: vindication
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> Jon,
>
> Thanks for the post. I was wondering if the PCV could be routed using =
> exhaust as a siphon to pull the crank case pressure. =20
>
> I first thought that it would work and then I wondered if the reduced =
> exhaust flow from a WOT run to a closed throttle might not provide =
> enough vacuum to produce the desired effects. Evidently it does work! =
> Jeez, I thought I designed a new system (scratching my head)! =20
>
> Thanks again, most informative! =20
>
>
> Randy Collins
> Boise, Idaho
> rcollins micron.net
>
> 1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
> Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
> F250 4WD 460 C-6

Always happy to help out

jon
URJB Racing...because walking sucks!
VORRA #827 class 8
FORD F-150 svo power
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.urjb.com

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:19:47 -0700
From: "Jim '73 F 100 302"
To: "Ford Trucks"
Subject: Mercury Truck
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Having never seen a Mercury truck I was wondering what
difference it had from it's Ford counterpart? I have
contemplated getting Mercury emblems for my F 100. I've
always loved those chopped, dropped and channeled Merc
Cruisers of the '50s!
Gone na buy me a Mercury and cruse it up an down the road!




Jim Strigas jstrigas worldnet.att.net
'73 Ford F100 (302 2bbl C4 Auto Ford 9" 3.25. Daily
driver)
'83 Yamaha XJ900RK (Best Gift of my life! From my best
friends! RSCL)
'77 Buick EstateWagon (Beast of Immense Magnitude!)

These are "The Good Old Days"!
Be Cool Daddy-O B-)>

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:43:44 -0700
From: "Jim '73 F 100 302"
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Ford Truckin? I haven't seen this magazine in the racks. I
need to find it! Is there a subscription phone number in
your copy? I'll go nuts until I find it and I don't have all
that far to go! Help save the mind of a fellow Ford Trucker
and send some information on this magazine! Tia! Later!




Jim Strigas jstrigas worldnet.att.net
'73 Ford F100 (302 2bbl C4 Auto Ford 9" 3.25. Daily
driver)
'83 Yamaha XJ900RK (Best Gift of my life! From my best
friends! RSCL)
'77 Buick EstateWagon (Beast of Immense Magnitude!)

These are "The Good Old Days"!
Be Cool Daddy-O B-)>

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:52:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris North
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: What is going on?
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Jim Strigas wrote:
>I would like to know what is going on.
>

I think we all would. Usually, I just take a WAG and go on. ;^)


chris north

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 20:08:24 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Mercury Truck
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At 04:19 PM 5/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Having never seen a Mercury truck I was wondering what
>difference it had from it's Ford counterpart? I have
>contemplated getting Mercury emblems for my F 100. I've
>always loved those chopped, dropped and channeled Merc
>Cruisers of the '50s!
>Gone na buy me a Mercury and cruse it up an down the road!
>

As far as I know only the trim and possibly the displacement
with FE blocks. The guy down at Brownlee's (the local
antique shop) has a Merc and told me that the trim is
the major difference. I don't know first hand. I have
seen a few at the Pigeon Forge show, looked like F100s
to me.

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
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Date: Fri, 9 May 97 00:58:49 UT
From: "Ryan Penner"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: RE: Mercury trucks?
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From: Ken Payne
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 1997 2:00 PM
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Mercury trucks?

I can't for the life of me find it but someone from Ford Car Clubs
Western Region emailed me a few weeks ago and said I was incorrect
to list "Mercury antique" trucks as allowable members to our list
because they still made them! I've never seen a new one, anyone
here know?

What about the Mercury Mountanir (ford explorer re badged?)?

Ryan
1991 F150 Custom!

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 20:33:25 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 454 in an Econoline?????
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Chris North wrote:
>
> I worte:
> >>I could very well be wrong, but I don't think Ford put a 351M in any E-150,
> >>250, or 350 Vans in 1978. Small block 302 and 351W. Large block, what, a
> >>454?
> >>
> Then John Strauss wrote:
> >Arrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! A 454 is a CHEVY damnit!!! I am
> >losing my mind and my patience with you people! 460. 460. 460. 460.
> >460. 460!
> >
> >OK, rant over. Happy, happy. Joy, joy.
> >
>
> I *did* say that I could very well be wrong ;^)
>
> One thousand apologies. I'm basically a MoPar man, so I don't know my Ford
> engines as well as I should. When I think of big blocks, I usually think
> of the 440 six pack or 426 (twin 4 bbl) HEMI. (ducking and running!)
>
> chris north


Damn I lost the thread hear...............HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.........got
to be somethin here somewhere.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 20:39:20 -0500
From: "Eric and/or Denise"
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Barry,

> Where can I find information on my 1965 F-100 VIN numbers?

Buy a Ford Truck Shop manual. Why I say this is that I recently got a Ford
repo manual for my '61
for about $60 and it has EVERYTHING in there! It was (is) worth every
penny and makes for some great reading....heck, I'm on my 3rd time through!


These guys were the cheapest of the 1/2 dozen companies I called ($20
less!) for the Ford reproduction manual....

Faxon Auto Literature
800-458-2734

Eric
petunia indy.net
erickson vitro.bloomington.in.us
=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 20:41:47 -0500
From: "Eric and/or Denise"
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First off, Randy:
Yes, I too experience some weird things between my home fordtrucks
account and here at work. I recieve a few posts at home that do not
show up at work..... I have attributed this goofiness to the network
guys here at work who are always tweaking our network. ????? Another
weird thing that I experience is sometimes I get someone's reply to a post,
and I check my mail 10 minutes later and I see the origional post!!!! I
have experienced this only with my work account (where I unfortunately
spend too much time!!! ;( and I do not use the digest format either.)
Does this happen to anyone else, or should I go screaming at our network
guys?!!!!

Someone posted a question that they were wondering if they could
retro-fit a PCV system into an older engine that had no pcv valve
unit. I had wondered the same a while back and I looked into this
subject in my newly arrived "Ford Truck Shop Manual"....(if you don't
have one of these factory reproduction manuals....GET ONE! Mine was
about $60 bucks and over 2.5inches thick! The place I got mine was
$20 cheaper than the other places I checked, so let me know if
you need their phone number.)

Anyways, I looked at the engine diagram of the '61 292 Yblock engine.
That year, evidentally, a non-pcv and a pcv equipted engine was
available. When I compared the two drawings, they appear very
similar for this year engine except that one vents down the
baloney-sliced tube and the other has tubing that connects to the
intake manifold, through the pvc regulator valve, of course. (My
engine happens to be a '59 flavor, so I'm not sure that the internals
would be exactly the same. )

Jon wrote:

> PCV "Positive Crankcase Ventilation"
> EGR "Exhaust Gas Recirculation"

> Now it's Ford trucks I run Windsor's and I don't run PCV
> because of the envirement that I'm in DUST, would kill
> A PCV Valve Quick, trust me I know, I tried it cloged
> up real quick.

Jon, I am no expert on this by any means, and I am not familiar
with the Windsor, but I like to learn..... so I ask questions...
When I'm looking
at my manual for the flow of air through a Yblock engine, (I'm
ASSUMING the basic operation of pcv is very similar to most
engines) I notice that air goes entirely through the engine
before it hits the pcv to clog it up. You say from your
experience that you can't run a pcv in those dusty conditions because
it kills pcvs quick...
I don't mean to ask a foolish question, but don't you have a filter
on the intake? Didn't that dirt that clogs up the pcv valve have to
go through the engine, and most of it would get stuck in the oil,
allowing a small percentage of the dust to remain "airborn" to
eventually clog the pcv... no? If this is the case, how do you keep
that engine running with all that dirt in the oil and engine?

>So another way to get rid of pressure is to vent it into
> the exhaust and let the vacum of the the exhaust pull
> it out.

Just for kicks, I wonder if it is possible to hook up the
baloney-sliced vent tube on a 292 to the exhaust pipe that run
within 6 inches of each other? Can one have too much vacuum on a
crankcase ventilation system that was designed with the
vent-tube-partial-vacuum-while-in-the-wind-system??? Would this
even produce ANY positive effects?

Just some questions... Any thoughts?

Eric
petunia indy.net
erickson vitro.bloomington.in.us
=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 20:40:07 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: '77 F-150 gear ratio
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Gerald and Lisa Hoel wrote:
>
> We received our Ford build sheet today and it said our truck came with a
> 3.50 conventional rear axle. We are still not very well educated on axle
> ratios so could someone explain what this means and if it is considered
> high or low?
>
> Also, we use this truck as a daily driver and light off road. What would
> be a better ratio to have?
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
>
> Gerald & Lisa
> '77 F-150 Flareside (351M .060)

I personaly view anything from a 273 to a 350 as a common highway gear
with the 325 to 350 being good truck gears.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:35:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: LanceWaldn aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 3 point belts.
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I have a '56 F100 with 3 point belts.
I bought the belts new at a local van accessory supplier. The belts are like
the GM belts but you don't have to worry about getting crap from the junk
yard.
It was about 4 years ago but I think they were about $25.00 each. OK, so they
cost more than something you would get from a junk yard, but what's your life
worth?
While you are at it, don't forget to install the lap belt in the center for
that time that you have 3 accross.
About installation: on my '56, the metal is really thick around the top rear
of the door. If the belts pull out here, I'm most likely dead already.
Good Luck.
Lance

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 20:48:20 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: '77 F-150 gear ratio
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Harry Jennings wrote:
>
> 3.50 means the drive shaft turns 3.5 times for every 1 time the tires turn. This
> is a 'in the middle' ratio. A 4.10:1 (of 4.10 t 1) would be low. I use a 3.25:1
> with my 351M and I like it very much (17 mpg average/21 highway & still smokes
> Z-28's). I have a lower 3.75:1 with my 351SVO, but it has an AOD.
>
> Harry.
>

I don't know Harry I considered the low gearsas those you do not see in
stock applications such as 471:1 to say 650:1 and 370:11 to a 450:1 are
low but still kinda mid rangish still streetable (depending on yer
engine).

Molater

Daver

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 20:56:26 -0500
From: "Eric and/or Denise"
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Hey C.D.

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> From: C.D. Mutch
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: Something I forgot
> Date: Thursday, May 08, 1997 2:00 PM
>
> Hey if you guys wanna read something really interesting on getting
> better mileage, got to this site-
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.inett.com/himac/wagner.html
> and read about this gut and how he got 80mpg with his '75 Ford 1-ton!!!

I checked this site out. It's pretty interesting. I don't know if _I_
personnally believe all the conspircy theories, but the sceptic in me has
always wondered why an old vehicle (I owned a C-brand '49 1/2 ton for
awhile) got the same mileage that my '61 F100 gets and that mileage matches
all my dad's F150's he's owned throughout the years....including his most
recent which I think is a 1990.
I realize that reliability has increased tenfold, but why hasn't the gas
mileage improved even a few points? Makes me wonder.....

> snip
> I'm presently building one myself and I know it'll work,

Did you buy the book? You say that you're building one, so I guess you did
get this book. Is it complete with diagrams, etc. that somebody whose
pretty handy could try to build one in his garage with the enclosed plans?
Could you give us a little more info on this? I'm not saying that I
totally believe this guy, but certainly I am willing to listen to some more
info. Besides, if I say that I'm going to build one of these special
vaporizors/carbs - I don't want to end up missing!!!

;)

Eric
===========================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Unibody Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 "Y"-block
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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 21:04:56 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Getting better gas mileage PCV (The Right Stuff!)
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Eric Houkal wrote:
>
> ----------
> From: Harry Jennings[SMTP:hjennings hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 1997 6:24 PM
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: Getting better gas mileage PCV (The Right Stuff!)
>
> >
> A felony is anything that is punishable for more than one year in prison. It is
> NOT a felony to 'tamper' with emissions! No I am not that familiar with FEDERAL
> laws, only STATE laws. Were I live we have no inspections.
>
> Harry.
>
> I see. So if you don't get caught it's not a crime. Why does this not surprise me?
> ____________________________________________________________________
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You Know if the good guys do not follow the rules then there are no good
guys.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 21:17:08 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Holly 1850-2 applications (ci. ect) and cfm
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Douglas Minnick, Television Engr. WD4BSB wrote:
>
> Can anyone help me with info on this square bore Holly. I want to use
> one the of two 1850-2's I have on a 80 model 351w. If flow is too
> great can I rejet?
>
> Douglas Minnick, WD4BSB

Let me see. 1850-2 is model no. 4160/ 600 CFM/ takes holly kit no
37-119 or HiPro kit 37-912/ stock power valve is a6.5. If you are
running stock vacuum I might put a 8.5 power valve but otherwise sounds
great.

A 600 it a good carb for a 351.

Molater

Daver

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