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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 103

Today's Topics:

RE: vindication [Randy Collins ]
RE: aod trans ["Jesse Marcellus"
RE: 5000 engines for sale ["Jesse Marcellus"
[Fwd: You have been removed from the ["RANDY ZEILINGER (RZEILING)"
RE: Help...Salvage Yard Phone Number [Eric Houkal ]
oil filters [Stuart Varner
What is going on? ["Jim '73 F 100 302"
re: Not Slick 50 But... ["Jason K. Schechner" ]
Mercury trucks? ["Robert W. Hall"
Re: Something I forgot [William Sabers
Re: Something I forgot ["C.D. Mutch"
Re: Mercury trucks? ["C.D. Mutch"
3 point belts. [Ken Payne ]
Re: Mercury trucks? [Ken Payne ]

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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 23:54:49 -0600
From: Randy Collins
To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
Subject: RE: vindication
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Jon,

Thanks for the post. I was wondering if the PCV could be routed using =
exhaust as a siphon to pull the crank case pressure. =20

I first thought that it would work and then I wondered if the reduced =
exhaust flow from a WOT run to a closed throttle might not provide =
enough vacuum to produce the desired effects. Evidently it does work! =
Jeez, I thought I designed a new system (scratching my head)! =20

Thanks again, most informative! =20


Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
F250 4WD 460 C-6


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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 19:09:54 -0700
From: sdelanty sonoma.net
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>>
>>Don't get too excited yet, Harry. He's talking about EGR, not PCV.
>>
>
>HEY,
>
>Did you read the post?=20
>
>It is right up there ^^^ but I will quote it anyway.=20
>
>"Every high performance product not for street use lacked PCV and EGR!" =
Also=20
>read his quote from Hot Rod.

OK Everyone calm down!

PCV and EGR do totally different things, so don't confuse one with=20
the other.

PCV "Positive Crankcase Ventilation"
EGR "Exhaust Gas Recirculation"

I don't care if you have a two thousand HP motor
you need to get rid of crank case pressure buildup,
thats where PCV comes in.

I used to Drag Race for many years, and had 630 HP 302's
that spun at ten grand and I used a pcv valve, because
it doesen't matter what brand piston rings you have
if you can't get rid of pressure buildup it got to go somewhere
and that somewhere is right through the seals.

All you have to do is tune the motor for a PCV it's not
that hard to.

Now moving ahead ten years

I got out of drag racing because I wanted more, plus a deal came=20
along that I could not pass up

Off-Road racing.

Now it's Ford trucks I run Windsor's and I don't run PCV
because of the envirement that I'm in DUST, would kill
A PCV Valve Quick, trust me I know, I tried it cloged
up real quick.

So another way to get rid of pressure is to vent it into
the exhaust and let the vacum of the the exhaust pull
it out.

hope this clears up the questions about PCV Valves

Jon

RJB Racing...because walking sucks!
VORRA #827 class 8
FORD F-150 svo power
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.urjb.com=20


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Date: Thu, 8 May 97 10:04:17 UT
From: "Jesse Marcellus"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: RE: aod trans
Message-Id:

Eric, If you find out anything can you e-mail me at MrsSlix66 msn.com?
Reason being is my husbands Mark VII has the same disease. On his tranny, the
overdrive is gone but drive and reverse are alright. Enough people have told
me that drive and reverse are on the same belt since this happened, but
because I'm female, I get fed more absolutely wild advise than most. Why is
it that I no sooner get my truck paid off and start to really work on it than
something else happens to suck out cash flow!!!

Thanx - Kristen
1966 Ford F100 Custom Cab

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Date: Thu, 8 May 97 10:43:49 UT
From: "Jesse Marcellus"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: RE: 5000 engines for sale
Message-Id:

I work at a car auction here in Canada, and we have the Ford account meaning
the Ford daily rentals that are on the road here come to us after they have
about 20,000 miles on them to be resold. We also deal with what are called
category "B" units which are display models, test units, mis-builds ( units
that do not meet factory specifications when they are built) and vehicles
which are damaged in transit. For the latter 2 catagories, the vehicles are
brought up to Ford's specifications and then sold with seventeen miles of
documentation. They cannot be sold as new cars although they usually have no
miles on them. Which leads me to the point-

Ford will NOT knowingly sell defective items to the public. I can't find the
original post the info came from, but if it is really 5000 engines, then Ford
must know something about it. It isn't in their best interest to make unhappy
customers. They would rather crush a vehicle that they feel does not meet
standards than sell it and have it come back to haunt them. (Where do you
think all the flood damaged Explorers went? - made me wanna cry!)

Anyway, sorry for the ramblings. Gotta go!

Kristen
1966 Ford F100 Custom Cab

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 08:07:45 EDT
From: "RANDY ZEILINGER (RZEILING)"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: [Fwd: You have been removed from the list]
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*** Resending note of 05/07/97 19:12
Caveat Lector:
Subject: [Fwd: You have been removed from the list]

Ken Payne said the following:
I've stayed on the sidelines about this but I've now received
several complaints. I am not going to play God and "kick
anyone off" - I am simply going to make a few suggestions.
This message is directed at no one in particular.


Ken, somewhere within the lofcom system, it seems that some of us are getting
bounced. I received this at home last night. Funny thing is, it doesn't make
any sense because I only posted once and sent one "private" e-mail. The e-mail
was to someone who posts a lot so the address is valid.
I'm trying again from work to see if I get bounced again. I've deleted the
bulk of the material but left a few for reference.

Is this happening to other people on the list? I've noticed that a couple of
posts from work do not make it to the list. The posts from home do (did).

randyz ameritech.net; Wed, 7 May 1997 00:57:59 -0400 (EDT)
>>>sorry I wasn't up at this time
fordtrucks-request lofcom.com using -f
>>>Don't know about this
To: randyz ameritech.net
>>>Address is Valid
X-Loop: fordtrucks lofcom.com (bounce)
Precedence: junk
Your mail address randyz ameritech.net has been removed
from the fordtrucks lofcom.com mailinglist.
It generated an excessive amount of bounced mails.
>>>I guess 1 post and an e-mail is too much
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
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>X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to
>From: "Harry Jennings"

Sorry folks, these are VALID addresses.
Harry, are you still on line.

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 07:15:35 -0500
From: Eric Houkal
To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
Subject: RE: Help...Salvage Yard Phone Numbers
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From: Randy Collins[SMTP:rcollins micron.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 1997 12:46 AM
To: 'fordtrucks lofcom.com'
Subject: RE: Help...Salvage Yard Phone Numbers

Harry,

Yes, I am sure I could get the Ford shoulder belts to work. Making the =
Ford belts fit would take much more effort and significant amounts of =
fabrication. The Chevy belts will pretty much bolt in. =20

The reason I send the post to the mail list is that I am simply asking a =
few of the kind folks to offer phone numbers of salvage yards in their =
area that deal in late model trucks. I also asked that if anyone knew =
of any dealers to please e-mail me privately, so we wouldn't bog down =
the list with posts that would be of no interest to the rest of the =
group. =20

Maybe I am "old fashioned" but for the most part I prefer to use the =
telephone, not e-mail businesses that I have never heard of. =20

Thanks again,

Randy Collins
rcollins micron.net

I don't know if this is relevant to other states. but around here=20
(Cicago) the U-Pick- Its let you take all the seat belts you want =
free. I was told the reason was that they weren't allowed to sell them, =
or the potential liability was so great they weren't willing to try.=20
If that is the case, you will probably have to buy (or obtain) them =
locally.=20
Good Luck,Eric
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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 06:49:25 -0700
From: Stuart Varner
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: oil filters
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I am almost afraid to make this post....Here goes!

I buy unbranded green beans and other unbranded veggies so I can afford
to purchase K&N oil filters (also have them on all three of my vehicles
air cleaning systems, I'd use a K&N PCV if I knew they made one) for my
cars. I guess they do OK, I always used Motorcraft filters until the
K&N
filters arrived.

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 07:53:49 -0700
From: "Jim '73 F 100 302"
To: "Ford Trucks"
Subject: What is going on?
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I would like to know what is going on.




Jim Strigas jstrigas worldnet.att.net
'73 Ford F100 (302 2bbl C4 Auto Ford 9" 3.25. Daily
driver)
'83 Yamaha XJ900RK (Best Gift of my life! From my best
friends! RSCL)
'77 Buick EstateWagon (Beast of Immense Magnitude!)

These are "The Good Old Days"!
Be Cool Daddy-O B-)>

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:08:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jason K. Schechner"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: re: Not Slick 50 But...
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On Wed, 7 May 1997, Harry Jennings wrote:

[snip]
>
I also gave the name of a company that coats internal parts with a friction
> reducing agent. www.performancecoatings.com
>
> BTW, the PTFE in Slick50 is much closer to the stuff the above mentioned company
> uses than it is to Teflon. Its the application process that makes the big
> difference.

PTFE and Teflon are the exact same thing. Teflon is DuPont's
registered trade name and PTFE is the abreviation for the chemical name:
poly(tetrafluoroethylene). As I said before, the concept of Slick50 is
great, but the products themselves do not deliver.

-Jason


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Jason K. Schechner - Unix Sysadmin - Oracle Corp

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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:10:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert W. Hall"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Mercury trucks?
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Hi, new subscriber here. I've seen a few '50s vintage Canadian Mercury
M-100 pickups in magazines, and was wondering what years they were
made--when did Ford stop badging F-series pickups as Mercurys in Canada?

A few years ago in Ontario I saw an early-80s or so F-150 with
'MERCURY' spelled out across the hood and tailgate.

Three Ford trucks in my family-- I have an '88 Bronco II XLT (5spd,4wd),
my father a '96 Ranger XLT 4x4, and my brother a '74 F-150 longbed (300
six)..

I'm Also an avid modeller of Ford trucks/cars/etc.

--Rob

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Software Systems Research Laboratory 3327 EECS Building
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Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:33:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Sabers
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Something I forgot
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One note for everyone:
taking down the tailgate is great to increase your mileage... yes,
this is true, but you risk tweaking your box (I said box!!)
The tailgate adds alot to the structure of the pickup box. I have
seen guy go into the ditch with the 'gate down and do some major damage to
the back of the vehicle. When I had a pickup I generally had a vinyl
cover on the back- worked for me.
One more note, if you simply put down your tailgate, it is only a
matter of time before those little rocks in the road have fun with your
paint-job..

Wsabers
78 Bronco -which gets the same mileage as my old 92 d*dge dak*ta w/ 6cyl
69 Mustang Mach I


On Wed, 7 May 1997, Harry Jennings wrote:

> When I was giving tips on how to increase mileage I forgot some very important
> thing:
>
> 1)Weight. I run without my tailgate most of the time, have lighter front brakes,
> and fiberglass innerfenders.
>
> 2)Accessories. I not not have A/C or power steering. The only thing my engine
> turns is the water pump and the alt. (I have a electric fan).
>
> I know this is not a Ford post, but I feel we can never have too many ideas on
> howe to improve our mileage!
>
> Harry.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 12:00:17 -0700
From: "C.D. Mutch"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Something I forgot
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Hey if you guys wanna read something really interesting on getting
better mileage, got to this site-
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.inett.com/himac/wagner.html
and read about this gut and how he got 80mpg with his '75 Ford 1-ton!!!
It blew me away at first but actually after further investigation I'm
positive that it's no hoax! If you wanna get some serious mileage gains
look into it. I'm presently building one myself and I know it'll work,
C.D. Mutch
--
Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 12:16:30 -0700
From: "C.D. Mutch"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Mercury trucks?
Message-ID:
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As far as I know, Mercury trucks started out in the early thirties. The
last Merc's built were built in 1968. The eighties "mercury" you saw was
a hoax. I myself own two '59 Mercury's, my dad owns both a '48 and a '49
Merc' and my best friend is presently building up a show-quality '56
merc running a balanced and blueprinted 390 tri-power. probably the
rarest of the Mercury trucks are the "unibody" shortboxes built in '62
and '63. Hope this helps.
C.D. Mutch
--
Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.

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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 15:10:23 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: 3 point belts.
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 10:33 PM 5/7/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Can we get back to Ford Trucks! Harry has a Right to his
>opinion! No matter what the content, seeing the same post in
>an endless amount of replies gets annoying!
>
> Has anyone changed from Lap style seat belts to three point
>belts? One other person on the list is doing this now, and I
>will be doing it soon, and would like to hear from those who
>have already done so!
>Tia, Later!
>

I'm in the process of changing over my 67 F100. The early to
mid seventies Ford belts really aren't all that good, especially
the two piece jobs. I've looked at the GM parts, and sad to
say, they look better. I did see some nice belts in a late
70s Lincoln Continental that would have worked nice but they
were badly faded. Let me know if you come up with anything and
I'll do the same.

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 16:00:57 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Mercury trucks?
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I can't for the life of me find it but someone from Ford Car Clubs
Western Region emailed me a few weeks ago and said I was incorrect
to list "Mercury antique" trucks as allowable members to our list
because they still made them! I've never seen a new one, anyone
here know?

>
>Hi, new subscriber here. I've seen a few '50s vintage Canadian Mercury
>M-100 pickups in magazines, and was wondering what years they were
>made--when did Ford stop badging F-series pickups as Mercurys in Canada?
>
>A few years ago in Ontario I saw an early-80s or so F-150 with
>'MERCURY' spelled out across the hood and tailgate.
>
>Three Ford trucks in my family-- I have an '88 Bronco II XLT (5spd,4wd),
>my father a '96 Ranger XLT 4x4, and my brother a '74 F-150 longbed (300....


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