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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 102

Today's Topics:

Re: 5000 engines for sale ["Harry Jennings"
Help...Salvage Yard Phone Numbers [Randy Collins ]
re: Not Slick 50 But... ["Alexander M. Siu"
Re: F150 Hesitation ?? [JIM HURD ]
Re: Help...Salvage Yard Phone Number ["Harry Jennings"
re: Not Slick 50 But... ["Harry Jennings"
Re: Something I forgot [Don Grossman ]
WHY ["Harry Jennings"
Re: Something I forgot [Don Grossman ]
Hunting list ["Harry Jennings"
Re:vindication ["Jon" ]
Re: FORD CD CHANGER [Ted Lister ]
And welcome to the Harry Hot Line! ["Jim '73 F 100 302"
RE: Help...Salvage Yard Phone Number [Randy Collins ]

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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 20:33:49 PDT
From: "Harry Jennings"
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I remember reading in the original post that they were replaced under warranty.
Does this mean something was wrong with the engine? Sound like it to me!

Harry.


>We need more info on these complete engines,such as: WHY SO MANY AFTER ALL
>THESE YEARS,WERE THEY LOST LIKE THE CARSON CITY SILVER DOLLARS FOUND IN MINT
>BAGS IN A CAVE A FEW YEARS AGO ? WERE THESE ENGINES REPLACED IN THE USA BY
>FORD DEALERS,OR WERE THEY GERMAN SURPLUS OR JAPAN OVERSTOCK FOR PROBABLE
>WARRANTY USE,,,,,GIVE US SOME INFO
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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 21:33:24 -0600
From: Randy Collins
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Help,

A couple days ago I posted a note regarding my plans to install late =
model Chevy truck or Suburban shoulder seat belts in my 1975 to replace =
my lap belts. =20

I can't find a set of brown seat belts anywhere in Southern Idaho. =
Specifically, I am looking for a set of brown, or tan front should belts =
from a 1994 Chevy that had bucket seats. =20

Would you folks send me phone numbers of salvage yards in your area that =
deal in new model truck salvages. To keep e-mail traffic down it is =
probably best to e-mail the number directly to me. =20

Thanks in advance,

Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
F250 4WD 460 C-6

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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 23:40:13 -0500 (EST)
From: "Alexander M. Siu"
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I have heard that Slick 50 is not too compitable with delicate machines
like a motocycle or other high performance engines. Yes the tend to clog
small oil passages and so on. as far as friction. you can dab some
anti-seize compound and see what happens. Yes it will decrease friction,
but at the same time it will create some tinny groves on the metal
surface much like a piece of sand paper would. If DuPont research
department would market this product for their own fun and profit, you
know something is not right.

For optimal protection against wear and tear, use Mobil 1 if money is no
object. I personally use Shell Rotella for all my cars. I know many shop
owners and super mechanics uses and live by it. I know one guy who puts
it in everything from his Lexus to his lawn mower. It is a good product
for only $6.00 / gal. It sure cost less ant Mobil one, which cost
$4.00/qt on sale at K-Mart! Don't forget a good Oil filter too, half of
your problem will come from a cheap filter. I use the Fram HPH or the HP
series.

-=Alex Siu=-

ASIU UBMail.UBalt.EDU

VOICE: (410)828-0273

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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 23:53:20 -0500 (EST)
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Phil,

You may need to find a wiring diagram for your vehicle. I am only
guessing that the code 542 (fuel pump secondary circuit failure) may
be referring to the circuit _after_ the fuel pump relay. Can some one
on the list help out here?

The code 634 (MLP (Manual Lever Position sensor voltage out of self-
test range) _sounds_ like a sensor that determines where you have the
lever positioned so the tranny knows what you want it to do. Again, I
am not familiar with the E4OD tranny. Can some one on the list help
out here also?

The code 632 (OverDrive Cancel Switch not changing state) is a KOER
code only. If you have some kind of a switch on the stick (which I
think you said you had), you may need to turn this switch on and off
(or off and on) during the KOER portion of the test so that the EEC-IV
can see if the switch is working correctly.

To help zero in on the code 542, you may want to clear the computers
codes and drive for a few days on one fuel tank to see if you get that
code again. If the code doesn't get again, then switch to the other
tank for a few days to see if the problem appears in that tanks fuel
pump circuit.

Jim in Central NY
'79 F-150 (302!)
'92 Topaz (3.0l)

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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 20:57:43 PDT
From: "Harry Jennings"
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You can search through salvage yards on the internet. If one place doesn't have
it they can and will often find it for you.

But don't you think you could get Ford seat belts to work?

Harry.






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>Help,
>
>A couple days ago I posted a note regarding my plans to install late =
>model Chevy truck or Suburban shoulder seat belts in my 1975 to replace =
>my lap belts. =20
>
>I can't find a set of brown seat belts anywhere in Southern Idaho. =
>Specifically, I am looking for a set of brown, or tan front should belts =
>from a 1994 Chevy that had bucket seats. =20
>
>Would you folks send me phone numbers of salvage yards in your area that =
>deal in new model truck salvages. To keep e-mail traffic down it is =
>probably best to e-mail the number directly to me. =20
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Randy Collins
>Boise, Idaho
>rcollins micron.net
>
>1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
>Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
>F250 4WD 460 C-6
>
>
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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 21:05:27 PDT
From: "Harry Jennings"
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>I have heard that Slick 50 is not too compitable with delicate machines
>like a motocycle or other high performance engines. Yes the tend to clog
>small oil passages and so on. as far as friction. you can dab some
>anti-seize compound and see what happens. Yes it will decrease friction,
>but at the same time it will create some tinny groves on the metal
>surface much like a piece of sand paper would. If DuPont research
>department would market this product for their own fun and profit, you
>know something is not right.
>

You missed the point. I was not trying to sat Slick50 works, I was just stating
the idea behind it.

I also gave the name of a company that coats internal parts with a friction
reducing agent. www.performancecoatings.com

BTW, the PTFE in Slick50 is much closer to the stuff the above mentioned company
uses than it is to Teflon. Its the application process that makes the big
difference.

Harry.

>For optimal protection against wear and tear, use Mobil 1 if money is no
>object. I personally use Shell Rotella for all my cars. I know many shop
>owners and super mechanics uses and live by it. I know one guy who puts
>it in everything from his Lexus to his lawn mower. It is a good product
>for only $6.00 / gal. It sure cost less ant Mobil one, which cost
>$4.00/qt on sale at K-Mart! Don't forget a good Oil filter too, half of
>your problem will come from a cheap filter. I use the Fram HPH or the HP
>series.
>
>-=Alex Siu=-
>
>ASIU UBMail.UBalt.EDU
>
>VOICE: (410)828-0273
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 20:13:21 +0000
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Harry Jennings wrote:
>
> When I was giving tips on how to increase mileage I forgot some very important
> thing:
>
> 1)Weight. I run without my tailgate most of the time, have lighter front brakes,
> and fiberglass innerfenders.
>
> 2)Accessories. I not not have A/C or power steering. The only thing my engine
> turns is the water pump and the alt. (I have a electric fan).
>
> I know this is not a Ford post, but I feel we can never have too many ideas on
> howe to improve our mileage!
>
> Harry.

Thinking about mileage again my self. I go the 390 and 3/4 ton running
gear on. I have the brackets for the air compressor and the twin air
tanks are ready to go on. 400lb front bumper with Ramsey 8000 winch on
the front. I might add a winch to the back, 10k model. Still have to
pick up the two big rig batteries at the parts house and build the box
for those, and maybe add another alternator. I'm thinking all of the
extra weight will help with my traction, reduce tire slippage and
increase MPG! =-)**

Think just a little....

--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
63 Ford F-250 4x4

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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 21:45:19 PDT
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>Harry Jennings wrote:
>>
>> When I was giving tips on how to increase mileage I forgot some very
important
>> thing:
>>
>> 1)Weight. I run without my tailgate most of the time, have lighter front
brakes,
>> and fiberglass innerfenders.
>>
>> 2)Accessories. I not not have A/C or power steering. The only thing my engine
>> turns is the water pump and the alt. (I have a electric fan).
>>
>> I know this is not a Ford post, but I feel we can never have too many ideas
on
>> howe to improve our mileage!
>>
>> Harry.
>
>Thinking about mileage again my self. I go the 390 and 3/4 ton running
>gear on. I have the brackets for the air compressor and the twin air
>tanks are ready to go on. 400lb front bumper with Ramsey 8000 winch on
>the front. I might add a winch to the back, 10k model. Still have to
>pick up the two big rig batteries at the parts house and build the box
>for those, and maybe add another alternator. I'm thinking all of the
>extra weight will help with my traction, reduce tire slippage and
>increase MPG! =-)**
>
>Think just a little....
>
>--
Don,

Why are you trying to be a smart $$?

Just to let people know, this post was the first one I have written in a week.
The rest have all be responces to comment such as the one above! I can take a
joke as good as anyone else, gut why the "Think just a little...." comment?

Harry.



>Don Grossman
>duckdon pacific.net
>
>It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......
>
>65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
>63 Ford F-250 4x4
>
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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 21:04:33 +0000
From: Don Grossman
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Don Grossman wrote:

> Thinking about mileage again my self. I go the 390 and 3/4 ton running
> gear on. I have the brackets for the air compressor and the twin air
> tanks are ready to go on. 400lb front bumper with Ramsey 8000 winch on
> the front. I might add a winch to the back, 10k model. Still have to
> pick up the two big rig batteries at the parts house and build the box
> for those, and maybe add another alternator. I'm thinking all of the
> extra weight will help with my traction, reduce tire slippage and
> increase MPG! =-)**
>
> Think just a little....

I am just playing arround with this post. Please pay it no attention or
take with 2 grains of salt, I was just having a little fun. it was
brought to me that this post was out of line and I am sorry.

Thank you for listening
--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
63 Ford F-250 4x4

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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 22:09:17 PDT
From: "Harry Jennings"
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I once read that someone said that they are on a hunting list. I have a friend
who loves hunting and just got 'on-line'. I am sure he would like it. Could you
tell me were to find this other list?

Thank you.

Harry


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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 22:11:42 -0800
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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 19:09:54 -0700
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>>
>>Don't get too excited yet, Harry. He's talking about EGR, not PCV.
>>
>
>HEY,
>
>Did you read the post?
>
>It is right up there ^^^ but I will quote it anyway.
>
>"Every high performance product not for street use lacked PCV and EGR!" Also
>read his quote from Hot Rod.

OK Everyone calm down!

PCV and EGR do totally different things, so don't confuse one with
the other.

PCV "Positive Crankcase Ventilation"
EGR "Exhaust Gas Recirculation"

I don't care if you have a two thousand HP motor
you need to get rid of crank case pressure buildup,
thats where PCV comes in.

I used to Drag Race for many years, and had 630 HP 302's
that spun at ten grand and I used a pcv valve, because
it doesen't matter what brand piston rings you have
if you can't get rid of pressure buildup it got to go somewhere
and that somewhere is right through the seals.

All you have to do is tune the motor for a PCV it's not
that hard to.

Now moving ahead ten years

I got out of drag racing because I wanted more, plus a deal came
along that I could not pass up

Off-Road racing.

Now it's Ford trucks I run Windsor's and I don't run PCV
because of the envirement that I'm in DUST, would kill
A PCV Valve Quick, trust me I know, I tried it cloged
up real quick.

So another way to get rid of pressure is to vent it into
the exhaust and let the vacum of the the exhaust pull
it out.

hope this clears up the questions about PCV Valves

Jon

RJB Racing...because walking sucks!
VORRA #827 class 8
FORD F-150 svo power
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Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 01:17:57 -0400
From: Ted Lister
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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Greg Hendricks writes:
> >I have a 97 Ranger 4x4 Supercab that came with the Premium stereo in
> >it. It has CD controls but not the 6 disc changer. Does anyone know if an aftermarket CD-changer would be compatible with the factory stereo? I have priced the Ford Changer and it costs $460 plus $120 for wiring harness plus labor. Or maybe does someone know where I could find a used Ford Changer(junkyard possibly)? Any info would be much appreciated.
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Greg Hendricks

Greg,

You might want to contact the below dealer who installs the changers as
well as Ford alarms for local Phila., PA Ford dealers as well as doing
their own shop work. They should have an 800 number which I can't recall
right now. Give them a call about mail order and put the changer in
yourself. Basically takes about a half hour with the right tools.
Other members of the rec.autos.4x4 & Explorer newsgroups have ordered
from them in the past. The whole setup should be no more than $500.00
since H&R pays roughly $400.00 for the unit and harness. The changer
itself is made by Clarion for Ford. If all else fails, get an FM
modulated changer from Best Buy or Circuit City.

H & R Auto Radio Service Inc
1729 S 4th St Allentown, PA 18103-4923
(610-797-4791)

H & R Auto Radio Service Inc
157 York Rd Warminster, PA 18974-4514
(215-672-7400)

Good Luck,

Ted
tedlistr voicenet.com

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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 22:33:09 -0700
From: "Jim '73 F 100 302"
To: "Ford Trucks"
Subject: And welcome to the Harry Hot Line!
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Can we get back to Ford Trucks! Harry has a Right to his
opinion! No matter what the content, seeing the same post in
an endless amount of replies gets annoying!

Has anyone changed from Lap style seat belts to three point
belts? One other person on the list is doing this now, and I
will be doing it soon, and would like to hear from those who
have already done so!
Tia, Later!




Jim Strigas jstrigas worldnet.att.net
'73 Ford F100 (302 2bbl C4 Auto Ford 9" 3.25. Daily
driver)
'83 Yamaha XJ900RK (Best Gift of my life! From my best
friends! RSCL)
'77 Buick EstateWagon (Beast of Immense Magnitude!)

These are "The Good Old Days"!
Be Cool Daddy-O B-)>

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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 23:46:11 -0600
From: Randy Collins
To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
Subject: RE: Help...Salvage Yard Phone Numbers
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Harry,

Yes, I am sure I could get the Ford shoulder belts to work. Making the =
Ford belts fit would take much more effort and significant amounts of =
fabrication. The Chevy belts will pretty much bolt in. =20

The reason I send the post to the mail list is that I am simply asking a =
few of the kind folks to offer phone numbers of salvage yards in their =
area that deal in late model trucks. I also asked that if anyone knew =
of any dealers to please e-mail me privately, so we wouldn't bog down =
the list with posts that would be of no interest to the rest of the =
group. =20

Maybe I am "old fashioned" but for the most part I prefer to use the =
telephone, not e-mail businesses that I have never heard of. =20

Thanks again,

Randy Collins
rcollins micron.net
Boise, Idaho

You can search through salvage yards on the internet. If one place =
doesn't have=20
it they can and will often find it for you.

But don't you think you could get Ford seat belts to work?

Harry.


>
>Help,
>
>A couple days ago I posted a note regarding my plans to install late =
=3D
>model Chevy truck or Suburban shoulder seat belts in my 1975 to replace =
=3D
>my lap belts. =3D20
>
>I can't find a set of brown seat belts anywhere in Southern Idaho. =3D
>Specifically, I am looking for a set of brown, or tan front should =
belts =3D
>from a 1994 Chevy that had bucket seats. =3D20
>
>Would you folks send me phone numbers of salvage yards in your area =
that =3D
>deal in new model truck salvages. To keep e-mail traffic down it is =
=3D
>probably best to e-mail the number directly to me. =3D20
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Randy Collins
>Boise, Idaho
>rcollins micron.net
>
>1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
>Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
>F250 4WD 460 C-6

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