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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 99

Today's Topics:

RE: 1955 Ford f-500 [Ethan Vos ]
List split now complete [Ken Payne ]
'95 Ford Ranger Question [bradndeb laurie.net (Brad Miller) ]
Re: Rear axle bearing problems ["Mitch Miller" ]
Re: '95 Ford Ranger Question [John Macnamara ]
Re: '95 Ford Ranger Question ["Harry Jennings"
Re: PCV [JIM HURD ]
RE: F150 Hesitation ?? [Phil Conrad
My Gripe for Today [John Strauss
Harry you are not vindicated yet [John Strauss
Re: '95 Ford Ranger Question [Gardner ]
Re: vindication ["Harry Jennings"
Not Slick50, but the idea! ["Harry Jennings"

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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 09:24:37 -0400
From: Ethan Vos
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Subject: RE: 1955 Ford f-500
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The ownership says 1955 with a serial number 1816054SK303162.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Wentz [SMTP:dwentz earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 1997 12:57 AM
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Subject: Re: 1955 Ford f-500

>I have a 1955 F-500. The grill looks like a 53.

>It's got a flathead in it. Can these be built to be reliable for say =
>50,000 miles or so.=20
>
Are you absolutely sure is isn't actually a 53? The grilles on the 53's
and 55's are very different, both on the F100's and the larger models. The
thing that really makes me wonder is the flathead. If it's a 55 it
wouldn't have a flathead, but if it's a 53 it would (52 was the last year
for the flathead). Grilles can be changed, and so can engines, but I
suspect you've got a 53.

In response to the other question, yes a flathead can run over 50,000
miles--just keep an eye on the temp gauge!

~Dan

1992 Ford Mustang LX
1950 Ford F1, 351C-2V
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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 10:56:19 -0400
From: Ken Payne
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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 10:25:37 -0500
From: bradndeb laurie.net (Brad Miller)
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I've got a Ford Ranger Splash (1995) with the 4.0L in it. My wife just
informed me that the brake light is coming on, like the emergency brake is
on. She says that sometimes that pressing in on the clutch makes the light
go off . . . sometimes it flashes intermittently too. Any suggestions on
what gremlin to go after on this one? It does have ABS brakes, but that's
another bulb somewhere else . . .

(Going around corners must be bad for these trucks . . . I lost the fuel
cut-off while going around a corner . . . the st o o o pid cut-off is right
where any passenger can stretch out and ruin your day.)

Thanks in advance!

Bradley Miller
Partners In Internet Solutions - www.lake-ozark.mo.us

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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 10:25:06 -0500
From: "Mitch Miller"
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Mitch,
I looked in the 38-44 parts book (the 21-C chassis which is what you have,
remained unchanged from 42 to 47) and although it has very few
illustrations there are separate parts listed for the bearing, the hub, the
axle housing, and the axle. I would guess based on this that the bearing
is separable from the axle, and the axle housing. I do not know how to
remove it. The parts book illustration indicates that the axle will not
come out of the differential without taking the differential apart, however
the hub should come off the end of the axle after the nut is removed.
Please let us know how you get it apart, I will have to do this on mine one
of these years.
Regards,
Roger Meier

Well Roger, I have finished the axle. The rear bearings run on an inner
race which is part of the axle housing. The race cannot be removed or
replaced. If you have trouble, you will know when you flip the rear axle
upside down and look at the races. Seems that there is some kind of rust
or corrosion on the bottom (load-bear) and it must be common because it has
shown on all three of my axles!

The solution: Get to know your local machinist!
I bought a race and turned out the inside so that it could be pressed over
the axle housing race. That changed the size of bearing required. Next, I
turned out the inside of the hub (the outer race of the axle bearing) so
that a bearing could be pressed into the hub. The new bearing was
contained inside an outer race. The next consideration was the seal.
There is enough metal on the hub that it could be turned out just a little
more to accomodate a larger OD seal, the ID remained unchanged. The
rollers on the bearing are smaller and may require more frequent greasings.
Anyway, it is all changed over to modern parts now and any parts that wear
are replaceable. My only concern is, aside from spending the extra $, when
the hub bearing race was turned out, it reduced the amount of material
supporting the wheel. It looks good now and when it hits the road in
Spring '98, I'll find out if all is well. Still have to find a way to
change the grease seals that are pressed into the ends of the axle housings
right near the ends. They are installed from inside the axle housing, and
not from the outer end where they ultimately end up. Follow me?

If this is unclear, ping me and I'll get back to you.

(BTW, watch the FORDTRUCK pictoral for some new and EXCITING images!)

Mitch...

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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 08:30:02 -0700
From: John Macnamara
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Subject: Re: '95 Ford Ranger Question
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Brad Miller wrote:
>
> I've got a Ford Ranger Splash (1995) with the 4.0L in it. My wife just
> informed me that the brake light is coming on, like the emergency brake is
> on. She says that sometimes that pressing in on the clutch makes the light
> go off . . . sometimes it flashes intermittently too. Any suggestions on
> what gremlin to go after on this one? It does have ABS brakes, but that's
> another bulb somewhere else . . .
>
> (Going around corners must be bad for these trucks . . . I lost the fuel
> cut-off while going around a corner . . . the st o o o pid cut-off is right
> where any passenger can stretch out and ruin your day.)
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Bradley Miller
> Partners In Internet Solutions - www.lake-ozark.mo.us
>
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Brad: On the brake like, check your fluid level. There might be a
sensor that detects a low level causing the light to come on.

John

78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67GT500
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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 08:53:32 PDT
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>I've got a Ford Ranger Splash (1995) with the 4.0L in it. My wife just
>informed me that the brake light is coming on, like the emergency brake is
>on. She says that sometimes that pressing in on the clutch makes the light
>go off . . . sometimes it flashes intermittently too. Any suggestions on
>what gremlin to go after on this one? It does have ABS brakes, but that's
>another bulb somewhere else . . .
>

Low brake fluid will also make the brake light come on.

Harry.


>(Going around corners must be bad for these trucks . . . I lost the fuel
>cut-off while going around a corner . . . the st o o o pid cut-off is right
>where any passenger can stretch out and ruin your day.)
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Bradley Miller
>Partners In Internet Solutions - www.lake-ozark.mo.us
>
>
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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 12:02:10 -0500 (EST)
From: JIM HURD
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Jim Strigas,

Thanks for the info on the PCV and EGR systems. Just to add my $.02 with
regard to the EGR vs performance issue. According to the Ford shop manual
(at least my '79 Ford Truck Shop Manual), the EGR valve is operational
during part throttle/cruise driving. As you approach full throttle, the
vacuum signal to the EGR drops off and the EGR stays closed (so as not to
deminish maximum performance). Works on the same principle as the pre-heat
snorkel on the air cleaner...as you approach full throttle, the vacuum
drops off and the spring in the diaphram motor forces the flapper door to
take in cooler air (for maximum performance). I tee'd a vacuum gauge into
these lines and hooked it up so I could monitor the gauge from the cab as
I was driving. It was a very interesting learning experience.

Not looking for any flames....just trying to add content to the list.
So, FWIW....(about $.02).

Jim in Central NY
'79 F-150 (302!)
'92 Topaz (3.0l)
'80 Suzuki 750E (DOHC/16V)

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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 11:11:34 -0700
From: Phil Conrad
To: "'fordtrucks lofcom.com'"
Subject: RE: F150 Hesitation ??
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Ok, I got the codes. It took me a while to learn the timing of how =
this works but once I saw the EEC IV in action I got the chills. I =
thought the truck was going to drive off without me. Pretty Cool !

Here's what I got:

KOEO Test
111,111, pause 327, 542, 634, 327, 542, 634

KOERTest
first test
129, 167, 225, 632, 129, 167, 225, 632

second test
167, 225, 632, 167, 225, 632, ( what happened to 129 )

third test =20
129, 167, 225, 632, 129, 167, 225, 632

What do you think gentlemen ?? One thing I noticed is that it appears =
my engine runs better during the test. Is this possible ?

I eagerly await your reply.

Phil Conrad


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From: JIM HURD[SMTP:HURDJ VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 1997 5:35 PM
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Subject: Re: F150 Hesitation ??


Phil Conrad,
Are you getting any codes with the KOEO, continuous codes, or
dynamic response codes?

Jim in Central NY
'79 F-150 (302!)
'92 Topaz (3.0l)


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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:56:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Strauss
To: Ford Trucks List
Subject: My Gripe for Today
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Daver said:

>John Strauss wrote:
>>
>> >Is there some other device in the fuel system that could be causing low =
>> >pressure, boosters maybe. My truck has a 155" wheel base. Lots of =
>> >distance for a small electric pump.
>> >
>

Daver, you did it to me again!! This is not my post. I was not even
involved in this thread at all as far as I know.

I have seen my name thrown around an awful lot on top of posts that are not
at all mine or that I quoted from somebody elses. Please mind your
software and get it right! I really don't like my name attached to
somebody elses post - I make enough mistakes on my own.

John

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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:56:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Strauss
To: Ford Trucks List
Subject: Harry you are not vindicated yet
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>> I grabbed my Summit, Brothers, motorsport and Edelbrock
>>catalogs and went through each page. Every high performance
>>product not for street use lacked PCV and EGR! in a panic I
>>grab a couple Hot Rod rages and in the Feb '95 issue on page
>>51 it says in the mid '70s factories began introducing
>>measured amounts of exhaust gas into the intake manifold at
>>part throttle to reduce cylinder temperatures in order to
>>minimize the formation of oxides of nitrogen emissions. this
>>works, but it can also reduce performance.
>>
>Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
>
>I to am sorry for offending anyone!!!
>
>It was that I just couldn't get anyone to listen to what I was tring to say.
>

Don't get too excited yet, Harry. He's talking about EGR, not PCV.

John

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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 15:03:04 -0500
From: Gardner
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: '95 Ford Ranger Question
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Brad Miller wrote:
>
> I've got a Ford Ranger Splash (1995) with the 4.0L in it. My wife just
> informed me that the brake light is coming on, like the emergency brake is
> on. She says that sometimes that pressing in on the clutch makes the light
> go off . . . sometimes it flashes intermittently too. Any suggestions on
> what gremlin to go after on this one? It does have ABS brakes, but that's
> another bulb somewhere else . . .
>
> (Going around corners must be bad for these trucks . . . I lost the fuel
> cut-off while going around a corner . . . the st o o o pid cut-off is right
> where any passenger can stretch out and ruin your day.)
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Bradley Miller
> Partners In Internet Solutions - www.lake-ozark.mo.us
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
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> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.comI had similiar problem in a Escort GT, your wife probably has a lead
foot, when going around a turn or excelerating hard, the light would
come on, I thought it had something to do with the emergency brake but
turned out to be that I was just a little low on fluid and with movement
of the car the fluid would also move and cause the light to come on and
off. Hope this is helpful!

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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 12:28:18 PDT
From: "Harry Jennings"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: vindication
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>
>>> I grabbed my Summit, Brothers, motorsport and Edelbrock
>>>catalogs and went through each page. Every high performance
>>>product not for street use lacked PCV and EGR! in a panic I
>>>grab a couple Hot Rod rages and in the Feb '95 issue on page
>>>51 it says in the mid '70s factories began introducing
>>>measured amounts of exhaust gas into the intake manifold at
>>>part throttle to reduce cylinder temperatures in order to
>>>minimize the formation of oxides of nitrogen emissions. this
>>>works, but it can also reduce performance.
>>>
>>Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
>>
>>I to am sorry for offending anyone!!!
>>
>>It was that I just couldn't get anyone to listen to what I was tring to say.
>>
>
>Don't get too excited yet, Harry. He's talking about EGR, not PCV.
>

HEY,

Did you read the post?

It is right up there ^^^ but I will quote it anyway.

"Every high performance product not for street use lacked PCV and EGR!" Also
read his quote from Hot Rod.

And you guys wonder why I get so upset sometimes!!!!!!!!
I think God himself could tell you something and you would argue!?

As a matter of fact I am vindicated now. Thank you for asking.

Harry.

'71 F-100 Longbed 351M/C6
'71 F-100 shortbed 351SVO/AOD (fuel injected & supercharged)
'45 GMC 3/4 ton
'65 GMC flatbed 305C V6 (the truck is junk but the engine is great. It is going
into a '59 Chevy 4x4. Yes that says V6, too!).
'73 Plymouth Barracuda
'97 Chevy 1500 shortbed 305/5-speed (will be LT-1 383/T56 6-speed with 'Vette
suspension in about two more years).


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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:06:15 PDT
From: "Harry Jennings"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Not Slick50, but the idea!
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Please read ALL of this befors you jump all over me!

First of all let me explain the idea behind Slick50. There is a substance that
in a liquid form can be baked into metal. This is a somewhat expensive and time
consuming process though. The makers realized the process required heat. Hoping
the internal engine heat would bond the substance to the engine, they came up
with Slick50. I am not saying it does or doesn't work, just stating the idea. It
would seem possible to me that one engine could experience gains from Slick50
while another would not. I cannot see how it could cause any damage since the
"suspended particles" dissolve when heated.

I have also heard people say "Slick50 is for lazy people". This may be true if
the person is trying to fix a problem, but many people like me just want every....


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