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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 84

Today's Topics:

[Fwd: Delivery problems!] [Daver ]
Greasing kingpins ["Jesse Marcellus"
Re: Greasing kingpins [Ken Payne ]
'51 question ["Greggory D. Burdette"

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Dan Wentz wrote:
>
> >I'll add a couple ideas here one I have a 49 f-100 you have a great
> >chunk with a 300:1; however, your housing is too wide. I think toy'll
> >find that this will be more that a simple shave so here is a solution.
> >Find a Junked uot shorty ranger or bronco the 5 foot long ones the 9"
> >housing and axles you need are there and are perfect size.
>
> Yeah, I've been told that 73-79 F100 rear ends are exactly right--spring
> perches are even in the right place. I was just asking because I already
> have the Torino rear end--if it was just a little off I'd use it to save a
> few bucks. If it's way off, then I'll get an F100 9".
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> ~Dan
I'd suggest checking into a disk break convertion to shave an inch or
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Dan Wentz wrote:
>
> >I'll add a couple ideas here one I have a 49 f-100 you have a great
> >chunk with a 300:1; however, your housing is too wide. I think toy'll
> >find that this will be more that a simple shave so here is a solution.
> >Find a Junked uot shorty ranger or bronco the 5 foot long ones the 9"
> >housing and axles you need are there and are perfect size.
>
> Yeah, I've been told that 73-79 F100 rear ends are exactly right--spring
> perches are even in the right place. I was just asking because I already
> have the Torino rear end--if it was just a little off I'd use it to save a
> few bucks. If it's way off, then I'll get an F100 9".
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> ~Dan
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PAYNK (Ken Payne) wrote:
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> >>> Randy Zeilinger 04/28/97 08:16pm >>>
> -snip-
> >> I'm running 3.25:1. It works really well. I have 35x10.5-15 tires
> >> though. I have a pretty good balance of accel vs economy. If I want
> >> more acceleration I could put smaller tires on it. The 390 gives it
> >> plenty of pep though.
>
> >3.25:1?!?!? And I got grief for 3.55's w/ 35's?
>
> >Randy Z
>
> It depends on your engine and what you're looking for. You said you
> wanted more "umph." I'm running a souped up 390 that really snaps
> your neck. With 3.25 I can still get off the line pretty quickly, but
> I can't smoke the tires (at least not too much!). My next set of tires
> will be smaller as I went to 35s to try to improve my milage - it didn't.
> Because of the tire size most of my performance comes between 30-60mph.
> The 390 is a gas hog any way you look at it. If I wanted to smoke Mustangs
> I would definately run around 3.7+

325:1 and p255 70's thats the combo that I found works best for me. TCI
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Don Grossman wrote:
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> Where can I find more information on the 427 sohc ?
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
>
> It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......
>
> 65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
> 63 Ford F-250 4x4
>


The engine you ask about is the 427 Cammer it had dual OHC and a chain
that drove them off the cranck Ford Performance (book By Pat Ganahl) has
a picture of the beast. The timing chain is about 5 foot long +/-. If
you have this book look close at the picture beneath the engine there is
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PAYNK (Ken Payne) wrote:
>
> >>> Randy Zeilinger 04/28/97 08:16pm >>>
> -snip-
> >> I'm running 3.25:1. It works really well. I have 35x10.5-15 tires
> >> though. I have a pretty good balance of accel vs economy. If I want
> >> more acceleration I could put smaller tires on it. The 390 gives it
> >> plenty of pep though.
>
> >3.25:1?!?!? And I got grief for 3.55's w/ 35's?
>
> >Randy Z
>
> It depends on your engine and what you're looking for. You said you
> wanted more "umph." I'm running a souped up 390 that really snaps
> your neck. With 3.25 I can still get off the line pretty quickly, but
> I can't smoke the tires (at least not too much!). My next set of tires
> will be smaller as I went to 35s to try to improve my milage - it didn't.
> Because of the tire size most of my performance comes between 30-60mph.
> The 390 is a gas hog any way you look at it. If I wanted to smoke Mustangs
> I would definately run around 3.7+

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Molater

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Mathew Baker wrote:
>
> Daver wrote:
> >
> >>
> > Call Ford Man's Mustang in Houston TX he doesn't have a cammer but he
> > can set you up with a 427 side oiler.
> >
> > Molater
> >
> > Daver
>
> Which engines have cross-bolt mains, and what would be involved in
> building a 410 w/ a 390 block and a 428 crank. 428 crank and rods w/
> 390 pistons????? or do you need special 410 pistons?
>
> Mat Baker
> '64 F-250 4X4 292 Thunderbird y-block

Findig pistons is the hard part for a 410. If you are looking for a
puller build a 428 the 390 block will punch out big enough and the rods,
pistons and crank are availible through several sorces. If you want raw
excelleration build a 390, 406 or (if you can afford it) a 427. I have
a combonation for a 390 to 427 convertion but it requires sleeves and a
mechenist you really trust. The 406 (which I have) will scare you my
428 didn't compare as far as out of the hole excelleration. The 427
(which I have) is bad to the bone, nothing to it to, but it is a rare
side oiler with CROSS BOLT MAINS and I am saving it for something
special.

Molater

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I find that a low ash no parifin 20w50 works best for me medium
detergent.

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> Ted (FMM) has a Website too. I don't work for him, just bought parts
> from him off and on over 10 years. Knows his Fords.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fordmanted.com/
> fyi, rlg

Yeh and he has great stuff; but you've got to keep yer eye on yer wallet
because Ted will get in it. A lot of the stuff he has is rare and he
knows it.

You are correct though he Knows his stuff and if you ever go into his
shop you'll huh huh huh well huh it's imbarasing that is all I'll say.

Molater

Daver


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Doug Neely wrote:
>
> Daver,
> The 428 windage tray is still available at the Ford dealers
> the part # is c9ZZ-6687-A I paid $50 (CDN) for mine, also if
> you use a 390 crank you should change the pistons to the same,
> the 360 pistons are taller.I put 360 rods and pistons on a 390
> crank and it pinged like crazy,had to knock the timing back to
> 4 deg BTDC and run premium .
> Cheers,
> Doug

You are correct the words you a looking for are top of piston to center
line of pin. I do not support this idea if a person wants a 390 there
are plenty of them to be had; I suggested the use of a 352 HiPro crank
and rod as they fit the 360 and will enable it to turn 6500 RPM. The
360 was a gas crunch engine and Ford's attempt to lighten up the FE
weakened the crank and rods to the point that the constant abuse of any
performance at all would cause the crank to break in front of the second
main from the back or #4 I believe and provided the crank survived the
rods had a nasty habit of turning loose of pistons at the rist pins. If
a rod turns loose at the pin the ammount of mass swinging and the
leangth of it will break the block through the web (I have seen this
happen.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Fri, 2 May 97 02:08:36 UT
From: "Jesse Marcellus"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Greasing kingpins
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Hi everyone! Took my truck out of the garage for the first time in six months
yesterday (gotta love winter!) and my shoulders still ache from trying to
steer it! I'm pretty sure the kingpins need to be greased, but not real sure
how to do it. Is there a nozzle I can fit a grease gun to and if so, what do
I use to grease it with? I know this is probably a no-brainer, but I bought
the wee beast so I guess I'd better start learning how to do the easy stuff
first!


Kristen
66 Ford F100 Custom Cab

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Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 22:30:21 -0400
From: Ken Payne
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At 02:08 AM 5/2/97 UT, you wrote:
>Hi everyone! Took my truck out of the garage for the first time in six months
>yesterday (gotta love winter!) and my shoulders still ache from trying to
>steer it! I'm pretty sure the kingpins need to be greased, but not real sure
>how to do it. Is there a nozzle I can fit a grease gun to and if so, what do
>I use to grease it with? I know this is probably a no-brainer, but I bought
>the wee beast so I guess I'd better start learning how to do the easy stuff
>first!
>
>
>Kristen
>66 Ford F100 Custom Cab
>

There is a grease nipple on the top and bottom of each king-pin. I just use
a standard grease gun with high temp rated grease (disk break bearing grease)-
that area can get quite hot with alot of heavy braking. I'm probably overboard
to use the high tempstuff but it doesn't hurt. Just put a couple of squeeze on
the handle of the grease gun per nipple. Also, you may want to check the rubber
coupling on the steering column. Sometimes that can be at fault - though the
usually symptom there is sloppy steering.


-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
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