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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 75

Today's Topics:

Re: 97 F350 pulls [LenJG aol.com ]
RE: Engine sizes. [mcat epix.net ]
Re: Engine sizes. [mcat epix.net ]
auto tranny [yhtlines surfari.net ]
Re: 351M Mileage Master (20+ mpg) [LenJG aol.com ]
HUH?!? [Charlie Allison
Advice for rebuilding 360 [bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Che]
Re: 351M Mileage Master (20+ mpg) [thelambs earthlink.net ]
Re: Two 9" Rear Questions [Dan Wentz ]
Re: 76 360 info [LenJG aol.com ]
Re: 2 Questions [LenJG aol.com ]
Re: '88 Bronco II (XLT) Wiring Diagr [LenJG aol.com ]
Re: Engine sizes. [MLawing616 aol.com ]
RE: auto tranny [DC Beatty
Re: Backup lights don't work [LenJG aol.com ]
Re: backup lights don't work [LenJG aol.com ]
Re: Engine sizes (all years) [Karl Cunningham ]
PowerStroke Break-In [Jay Chlebowski ]
Re: Two 9" Rear Questions -Reply [Don Grossman ]
Ford tech address ["Erik J. O'Daniel"
Re: Engine sizes. [mcat epix.net ]
Re: PowerStroke Break-In [Michael Fischer
Re: F-250 w/302? [pmm2 lehigh.edu (PATRICK M MURPHY) ]
Re: PowerStroke Break-In [Larry Wiandt ]
93 F150 Xcab Driveline Vibration ["Levesque, Andy"
engines [Stuart Varner

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:16:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: LenJG aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 97 F350 pulls
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Just a thought, you might have a cracked or broken leaf in the spring pack.
That can sometimes happen to even a new spring if it wasn't properly heat
treated. Another thought that comes to mind is the U-bolts that attach the
spring to the TTB might be loose which would allow the axle to move around a
bit on the spring and cause it to pull to one side.This is a little food for
thought that might point you in the right direction.Good luckand keep us
posted on what you find out.
Len

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 21:11:11 PDT
From: mcat epix.net
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Subject: RE: Engine sizes.
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Randy,
Your right, I forgot the boss351c, and Ieven own one , must have been
that mind fart thing! 377 should have been 370. Da #$% key board. Also
forgot the 312 supercharged. Flatheads were221-239-255 and a linclon
flatty 300something found in F5&6&7s.
Garry
--- On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:48:12 -0700 Randy Collins
wrote:

>I would also include the 351 Boss, CJ and H.O. The 429 S.C.J.. Wasn't
there also a 370 or was that the same as a 377?
>Ken
>Try this for engine sizes, 221-260-289-302-351w, 239-272-292-312,
351c,351m-400,
332-352-352hp-360-361edsel-390-390hp-410-427-427tp-427sohc-428-428cj-scj-33
0hd-330md-359-361-389-391FEs. Mel series383, 462 477 534. 385 series, 429
429cj,460, 377trk, 429trk, Boss429.I belive the Mel series may include
more but I can't find one of my books. The 6s also include 144, 170,
240,300 allgood motors in there own place.

>
>
>Randy Collins
>Boise, Idaho
>rcollins micron.net
>
>1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
>Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
>F250 4WD 460 C-6
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mcat epix.net [SMTP:mcat epix.net]
>Sent: Monday, April 28, 1997 3:40 PM
>To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
>Subject: RE: Engine sizes.
>
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Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 4/28/97 Time: 9:11:11 PM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 21:28:26 PDT
From: mcat epix.net
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Engine sizes.
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Ford Performance by Pat Ganahl Has one section that details Sohc. Old
Hot Rod mags. Check public libary. Old OHO manual has specs and tuning
info. These were hellish motors and would run the pants off the Hemi.Too
bad nascar outlawed them, but they proved themselves in drag racing.
Garry
--- On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:56:29 +0000 Don Grossman
wrote:

>Where can I find more information on the 427 sohc ?
>--
>Don Grossman
>duckdon pacific.net
>
>It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......
>
>65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
>63 Ford F-250 4x4
>
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Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 4/28/97 Time: 9:28:27 PM

427 Fe powered 56 F-100 Wild by design
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:38:51 -0700
From: yhtlines surfari.net
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: auto tranny
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Recently acquired an 88 4X F150, with a 302 and auto for my son. Once we
got through the frozen fan clutch (jeez, those fans really make a lot of
noise when they're locked and running!) I realized that it was shifting hard
into 3rd under part throttle acceleration or after accelerating upward and
letting off the gas. I mean very hard. I plan to take it to a shop for fluid
change and adjustment ( if any available). Any ideas, as in bad vacuum
modulator etc (what ever that is!). Or did I get a bad deal and have a bad
tranny? (125,000 miles).
Dave Lampert

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:40:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: LenJG aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 351M Mileage Master (20+ mpg)
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To address your tire rollout question. This is how much ground the tire
> covers with one complete revolution. To get tire rollout all you need is a
tape measure and some sort of a marking device (i.e. a piece of shool board
chalk) or something else that you can put a mark on the tire and on the
ground with. what you do is put a mark on the tire sidewall close to the
ground and a mark on the ground at the same spot. Then you roll the tire
> forward one complete turn and put another mark on the ground were the mark on
the tire meets the ground at the same relation as it was before. then you
take your measureing device and measure between the two marks on the ground
and this is what is called tire rollout. This information can be very helpful
in determining a variety of things such as the right gear ratio to run with
your given tire rollout or weather you should changed to a different tire
> size to achieve the performance or fuel mileage that you are looking for with
the gear ratio that you already have. I hope this answered your question.
Len


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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:00:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: Charlie Allison
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: HUH?!?
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Removing heads on an FE to change the intake? HUH?
I just swapped two and got no closer to the heads than loosening the
rocker shafts and removing
push rods.

Twenty MPG?!? HUH?
M motor 14 mpg when dropped from C-130! Burning premium!

'66 Mustang!?!?! HUH???

Just a few questions...

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:07:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico)
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Advice for rebuilding 360
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Thanks to everyone who lent advice on the bearings for my 360. I've decided
to go ahead with the rebuild, and I've got some plans as well as some questions.
I plan to enlarge the oil passages for better flow, as well as put in a
stronger oil pump and a windage tray. I'm probably going to do some porting
on the heads and have hardened seats put in.
Now for the questions
-Does anybody recommend a good oil pump for the FEs?
-Does anybody recommend a windage tray?
-Does anybody recommend bearings?
-Valve train components?
I'm also considering using a 390 crank. Any pros/cons to either the 360 or
390 setups?

bigric mail.utexas.edu
'68 Ford F100 Custom Cab Flareside 360 FE
'66 VW Beetle 1300->1500

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:10:54 -0500
From: thelambs earthlink.net
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Subject: Re: 351M Mileage Master (20+ mpg)
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LenJG aol.com wrote:
>
> To address your tire rollout question. This is how much ground the tire
> > covers with one complete revolution. To get tire rollout all you need is a
> tape measure and some sort of a marking device (i.e. a piece of shool board
> chalk) or something else that you can put a mark on the tire and on the
> ground with. what you do is put a mark on the tire sidewall close to the
> ground and a mark on the ground at the same spot. Then you roll the tire
> > forward one complete turn and put another mark on the ground were the mark on
> the tire meets the ground at the same relation as it was before. then you
> take your measureing device and measure between the two marks on the ground
> and this is what is called tire rollout. This information can be very helpful
> in determining a variety of things such as the right gear ratio to run with
> your given tire rollout or weather you should changed to a different tire
> > size to achieve the performance or fuel mileage that you are looking for with
> the gear ratio that you already have. I hope this answered your question.
> Len
>
>
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I have a 78 bronco with a new 351m auto what is the correct tire rollout
for better mileage I now get about 12mpg

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:27:29 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Two 9" Rear Questions
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>I'll add a couple ideas here one I have a 49 f-100 you have a great
>chunk with a 300:1; however, your housing is too wide. I think toy'll
>find that this will be more that a simple shave so here is a solution.
>Find a Junked uot shorty ranger or bronco the 5 foot long ones the 9"
>housing and axles you need are there and are perfect size.

Yeah, I've been told that 73-79 F100 rear ends are exactly right--spring
perches are even in the right place. I was just asking because I already
have the Torino rear end--if it was just a little off I'd use it to save a
few bucks. If it's way off, then I'll get an F100 9".

Thanks for the input.

~Dan

1992 Ford Mustang LX
1950 Ford F1, 351C-2V
Check out my F1 page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.GeoCities.com/MotorCity/3623

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:28:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: LenJG aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 76 360 info
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To answere your second question first any FE engine will bolt right in to
your truck. The 390 is a good choice for power to fuel ratio since it gets
about the same fuel mileage as the 360 with more power right form the get go.
As for your first question, I did these thing to my '71 F-100 360 C6 combo
and neted between 4 to 6 MPG. First I put a good set of equal length headers....

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