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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 71

Today's Topics:

Re: Electrical Problem ["Jim" ]
Re: 351M Mileage Master (20+ mpg) ["Jim" ]
Re: Ziiiinnnnnnnngggg (cant figure i [silent.bob juno.com ]
Re: Send Money To: ... [silent.bob juno.com ]
Re: Ziiiinnnnnnnngggg (cant figure i [silent.bob juno.com ]
Re: Ziiiinnnnnnnngggg (cant figure i [silent.bob juno.com ]
Re: Ziiiinnnnnnnngggg (cant figure i [silent.bob juno.com ]
Re: Electrical Problem [Jesus Cardoso
66 mustang [Litemeup aol.com ]
56 F100 stuff ["Erik J. O'Daniel"
THE List ["Erik J. O'Daniel"
Re: 66 mustang [Ken Payne ]
Re: 56 F100 stuff ["The Zahn's" ]
flywheel ? [sidereal epix.net ]
Re: flywheel ? [BillyCIII aol.com ]
Re: F-250 w/302? [Tom ]
97 F-350 pulls [Todd Muccilli
RE: 56 F100 stuff [mcat epix.net ]
Re: backup lights don't work [BillyCIII aol.com ]
Re: 97 F-350 pulls [GEDAVE aol.com ]
1939 Ford Pickup [Bill Flood ]

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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 03:47:58 -0700
From: "Jim"
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If you jumped it and the starter was bad, wouldn't it still drag? I
thought he said it would turn over normally if he jumped it! Not to go
against the grain here, but it sounds to me like a poor connection in the
system that would be bypassed when jumped.
Later!

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From: Don Grossman
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Electrical Problem
Date: Friday, April 25, 1997 1:26 PM

Jesus Cardoso wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> First of all I wanted to thank everyone for answering my question
> on the door locks.
>
> I need some more HELP!!!!!
> I am currently experiencing a problem with my ol' 63. Once again
> it has a 292 with a three speed manual tranny. The problem I am
> experiencing is kind of strange.....it has a hard time starting, by this
I
> mean the starter seems to have a hard time turning. I replaced the
> starter relay, but it did not help. It only does this some of the time,
> but sometimes it completely drains the battey when I am trying to start
> it. When it does not drain the battery, I have about a 2 V drop at the
> battery when the starter is turning, which if I remember correctly
Chilton
> says it should only be .5 V. When it does drain the battery I give a
> "jump" with another car and it starts right up. I know it seems kind of
> confusing, but believe me it is very frustrating to not know when it
plans
> not to start. Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> p.s. The charging system is working fine.

This sounds like a starter thats about to take the big goodbye. I had
one in a 77 F150 4x4. It started to turn slower and slower each time,
I thought battery taking a crap.(replace battery). still no good. One
day clic clic clic cl.. GREAT. silonoid went(replace) still no
good. Take starter out in grocery store parking lot and ran down to
parts house for a check. It took 800 amps to get it to crank, blow
their fuse and make that great rock concert smoke. Parts guy said
something about an internal short and handed me a new starter.

--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
63 Ford F-250 4x4


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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 03:55:13 -0700
From: "Jim"
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Subject: Re: 351M Mileage Master (20+ mpg)
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Thanks Don! I was starting to worry, my bike gets around 20 mpg. Thought I
had missed the worlds biggest tip!



Jim Strigas jstrigas worldnet.att.net
"73" Ford F100 (piece a %*&#^ Love it, I Just Love it!)
"83" Yamaha XJ900RK (Best Gift of my life! From my best friends! RSCL)
"86" Honda GoldWing GL1200 (OK, this part goes here, and this... this... I
think goes on the truck.)
"77" Buick EstateWagon (New to the barn. And Beast of Immense Magnitude!)
"89" Ford Aerostar (The Wife's.)
These are "The Good Old Days"!
Be Cool Daddy-O B-)>
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From: Don Grossman
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 351M Mileage Master (20+ mpg)
Date: Friday, April 25, 1997 1:29 PM

All of this 20+ mpg is getting on my nerves. The 390 in my 63 only does
about 8 uphill, downhill, empty, full and about 7 with a headwind. I
like the 3rd gear burnouts thou +-)
--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
63 Ford F-250 4x4


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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 10:52:56 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Ziiiinnnnnnnngggg (cant figure it out)
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On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:34:45 -0400 JAMES writes:
>Your catalytic converters (2 inline)have heat sheilds spot-welded on
>both sides. Chances are good one or more welds has broken.Should be
>covered under warranty if you have 3-36 bumper to bumper.If not braze
>it
>or clamp it.
>--
>Disregard from and reply to addresses To reply send to JAMES
>jtors fred.net WARNING! ALL
>UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL WILL BE BILLED A $500.00 U.S.
>PROOFREADING
>FEE.FAILURE TO PROVIDE VALID U.S.POSTAL ADDRESS FOR SUCH BILLING OR
>FAILURE TO PAY WITHIN 5 DAYS OF RECIEPT WILL RESULT IN APPROPRIATE
>LEGAL
>ACTIONS

Thanks man! Ill check it out.

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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 10:52:57 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Send Money To: ...
Message-ID:

On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:20:07 -0700 Randy Collins
writes:
>Folks,
>
>I am sending 10 bucks to help Ken with the cost of the mail list.
>Send what you feel comfortable with.
>
>His address is:
>
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>
>
>Randy Collins
>Boise, Idaho
>rcollins micron.net
>
>1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces)
>Soon to have the following Randy installed options:
>F250 4WD 460 C-6


Sure, ill send what I can as well. This is a great list.

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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 10:52:56 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Ziiiinnnnnnnngggg (cant figure it out)
Message-ID:

On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:31:18 -0400 Ken Payne
writes:
>At 09:33 AM 4/25/97 EDT, you wrote:


>First, can you reproduce it at a standstill?

yes

>If so, can you get someone to get it to speed while you listen for a
noise
>location?

Yes, ill get a friend of mine to help me today.

>It could be your flywheel, timing chain (if it uses
>a belt I would not point to the belt as a cause) or any one of
>a bunch of other things.

Its a belt.

>Does this noise happen in gear or out of gear?

Yes, in and out.

>Does pushing the clutch in make a difference - this would be a _big_
clue. I've >also seen alternators make whirring/zinging noise at certain
speeds when they have >bad bearings.

No, doesn't matter, if the clutch is in our out, it still makes the same
noise.

>Give us as many possible insights as you can and one way or another
>we'll narrow it down.

>-Ken Payne

Well, It sounds like a buzz-saw/table-saw cutting wood, and I found out
last night that its not as loud during wet weather.

Im going to a look at the heat shields today as well as do some of the
other tips that users having given me.

Thanks to all of yall for your help!

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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 10:52:57 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Ziiiinnnnnnnngggg (cant figure it out)
Message-ID:

On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:31:20 -0400 (EDT) JRFiero aol.com writes:
> I had one of the first Miatas, and it had a high frequency rattle
>which
>could be described as a 'zing' at ~2800, and it turned out to be the
>heat
>shield over the primary muffler. Get the vice grips out and tweak
>some of
>the seams, which seem to be just bent over on each other.


It seems like everyone is telling me its the heat shield. Ill take a look
today and check it out as well as the other things it could be.

Thanks for your help!

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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 10:52:56 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Ziiiinnnnnnnngggg (cant figure it out)
Message-ID:

On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 08:20:33 -1200 Michael & Linda Waak
writes:
>>I have been having a really loud zinging sound coming from my 95
>>Ranger
>>2.3L (5 spd standard) when I reach between 2100 to 2200 RPMs and only
>>between these RPMs and it doesn't matter what gear I'm in. What the
>>hell
>>could it be?!?
>>
>You should check the heat shields on the cat and the rest of the
> exhaust
> >system.


I plan to do that today. I did some road tests and I have come up with
this:

With the clutch in and out, it still makes the same sound.
It only makes the sound between 2100 to 2200 RPMs.
Its not as loud during raining weather.

As soon as it drys up outside, ill climb under and take a look.

Thanks!

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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 11:00:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jesus Cardoso
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Electrical Problem
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Once again I would like to thank everyone for your help with my
"little " problem. It looks like the starter is going to be replaced
after I make sure I have no loose connections. Thank You.

Sincerly,
Jesus Cardoso


p.s. 1I also answered Jim question.

On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Jim wrote:

> If you jumped it and the starter was bad, wouldn't it still drag? I
>thought he said it would turn over normally if he jumped it! Not to go

Jim, sorry that I did not make myself clear.....the starter still
drags when the truck is jumped. After a few seconds it starts turning
faster and the truck starts running.


>against the grain here, but it sounds to me like a poor connection in the
>system that would be bypassed when jumped.
>Later!

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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 13:34:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Litemeup aol.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: 66 mustang
Message-ID:

I have another question for everyone out there:

I have a 66 mustang straight six. It has not een run for about 2 1/2 years
at which time it did run good and passed smog tests here in CA.

Recently i have been working on it and after a lot of tune up work,
rebuilding the card which seemed to be a problem stivking etc, it does not
want to run correctly. It starts immediately turning the key however when i
go to put it in geer and give it some gas it sputters, kicks out a lot of
smoke and wants to die. Once up to a high speed it levels out and will
drive.

Like i said, the carb isd rebuilt, i did vacuum test and at idle pressure is
eratic and stable once rpm are up around 1500 or higher, new plugs, wires,
rotor etc.....

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