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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 66

Today's Topics:

Re: Jane, stop this crazy thing... [Ken Payne ]
Re: Muffler's ["Jim" ]
Re: new engine break in [Daver ]
Re: new engine break in [Daver ]
Re: new engine break in -Reply [Daver ]
Double the message (hey Ken Should t [Daver ]
F.S. '88 Ranger/Bronco II Shop Manua [Randy Collins ]
Re: new engine break in [JIM HURD ]
Re: new engine break in -Reply [Ken Payne ]
Re: Jane, stop this crazy thing... [Charlie Summers
Re: Double the message (hey Ken Shou [Ken Payne ]
Once again, its an issue. [Ken Payne ]
ADMINISTRIVIA (Was: Re: Double the m [Charlie Summers
Re: new engine break in ["Kimo Owens" ]
Re: new engine break in [Wyteye aol.com ]
Helping out to defer admin costs.... ["Eric and/or Denise"
Brain-dead Unsubscribers!!! ["Eric and/or Denise"
'65 F100 for sale ["Eric and/or Denise"
Re: new engine break in [William Sabers
Re: new engine break in [Wyteye aol.com ]
Send A Buck? [Michael & Linda Waak
Vote and Cash Offer [Randy Collins ]
Re: Send A Buck? ["Jason C Wodack"

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:48:15 -0400
From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Jane, stop this crazy thing...
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At 04:15 PM 4/24/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Well, I'm getting a little annoyed by the people who won't read the
>user info for this group.
>
>Ken: I think you mentioned that you had somehow filtered out all the
>"unsubscribe me" messages, possibly you should add "desubscribe" and
>"desub" to that filter because they seem to have coined a new term...
>
>>Subject: Re:desub
>
>If it ain't one thing, it's another...
>
>Erik O'Daniel
>

You're right. The problem with trying to make software foolproof is the fact that fools can be so damned ingenious!

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:52:32 -0700
From: "Jim" To:
Subject: Re: Muffler's
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From: LenJG aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Muffler's
Date: Wednesday, April 23, 1997 5:43 PM



>The reason the glass packs aren't that loud is the dual
>catalytic converters that are right behind the Y pipe, they do a good job of
>quieting the exhaust noise.

How much do the cats effect flow? Are there high flow cats? When I drove down to get my turbo mufflers installed on the truck, sounded like rolling thunder! But that was straight off the shorties. I would like to put a cutout on the right side, just to set car alarms off! "/



Jim Strigas jstrigas worldnet.att.net
"73" Ford F100 (piece a %*&#^ Love it, I Just Love it!) "83" Yamaha XJ900RK (Best Gift of my life! From my best friends! RSCL) "86" Honda GoldWing GL1200 (OK, this part goes here, and this... this... I think goes on the truck.)
"77" Buick EstateWagon (New to the barn. And Beast of Immense Magnitude!) "89" Ford Aerostar (The Wife's.)
These are "The Good Old Days"!
Be Cool Daddy-O B-)>


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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:05:34 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new engine break in
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Gerald and Lisa Hoel wrote:
>
> We have just completed reinstallation of our 351M .060 since rebuild.
> Anybody with some helpful hints on breaking in, what to do/what not to
> do... please share!!! Thanks in advance.
>
> Jerry & Lisa


Several folks out there are going to feel the twitch to respond but here goes (Keep in mind I like race engines). I always do these things on first crank 1) use an old oil shaft and prime the system ( I do not turn the engine over at this time to avoid losing cam lube off the lobes) 2) emediatly after priming I have the wife cranke it and watch the RPM gauge ( bring it up to between 1500 and 2000 RPM and hold that for about 10 minutes (this avoids wiping a lobe)) 3) after Hi RPM run I bring it down to 800 or so RPM's and cover the radiator with a single piece of card board and get the temp to 200 deg and regulating with the card board hold it there for fifteen +/- minutes then shut it down let it cool off then repeat the heat up (usually twice more) then change the oil befor the vehical moves.

Now with all that out of the way. I'm sure (could be wrong) that you are not to far over stock valve seat pressure and that you are not running moly rings so the above will probably be a little much. Prime the engine start it maintain a good solid idle and bring it to operating temp. let the engine run for about 15 to 20 minute shut it down and change the oil and filter (some folk will argue that this is a premature oil change; however, if there is any thing that is floating about (grit,shavings ect...) I like the get them out as soon as possible.
Drive the vehical as normal Excluding any stinuos task for +/- 1500 miles chang the oil and filter again and you are ready to race.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:35:14 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new engine break in
Message-ID:
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Gerald and Lisa Hoel wrote:
>
> Thank you William for the note on the 351M. I am just about tired of
> everyone banging on the modified & calling it junk. Our philosophy is if
> it works for YOU than it is the best for YOU. Anyone who thinks the
> modified is a slug/piece of crap or otherwise worthless garbage well
> kiss my a %!!!
>
> We just put a grand into rebuilding our Modified and she is a sweet
> piece of machinery for us and so is the gas mileage (20mpg) so you
> testosterone filled Rolex carrying fuel suckers who need to have speed
> can just shove your accelerator through the floor burn rubber and keep
> going 'cause I got no use for any of you!And while you stop at the gas
> station 10 miles down the road we'll wave to you as we pass on by and
> keep TRUCKIN......

Sorry you feel that way. every one has thier preferences. I like FE's And doesn't alwas trip peoples trigers either. People that run HiPro are generally good the ask about things because they are hard to a fault on parts and if a certain part is breakable we'll find it more often than not.

Not all of us Knock the 351M/400. I personally recognize them as good solid equipment. Folks some people look for adversity and unrest and it is to bad because we're here to try to help each other and this type crap damages those efforts. If you do not like something simple say I do not and leave it at that. Some of you guys sound like Chevy owners.

>
> I love this list and my husband and I have learned a ton from you all
> but if you don't like something dont carry into name calling and
> slamming. Just state you prefer something LARGER!! Furthermore, since we
> all are supposed to be Ford enthusiasts, don't bang a Ford motor. Isnt
> there enough Ch !y metal out there for you guys to badmouth and pick on?
>
> Jerry & Lisa
> '77 F-150 Ranger with a 351M .060 and PROUD OF IT!!!

There are many ways to do a particular task 99% of them work 50 % are desirable 10% are the best.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:39:24 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new engine break in -Reply Message-ID:
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PAYNK (Ken Payne) wrote:
>
> What irks me the most is when someone takes a classic 40 year old
> piece of Ford iron and drops a GM engine in it. Barf.
>

Yea but there are more chevys out there with 9" ford rear ends than there are fords with Chevy 350's.

Molater

Daver

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:45:39 -0500
From: Daver
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Double the message (hey Ken Should this happen) Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Ken:

On certain messages I seem to be getting duplicates. Any bodyelse seeing this?


Molater

Daver

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:17:54 -0600
From: Randy Collins To: "'FORDTRUCKS'" Subject: F.S. '88 Ranger/Bronco II Shop Manuals Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Folks,

I bought some seats for my project truck from a fella in the LA area = that has a set of Helm shop manuals for sale. The manuals cover the = 1988 Ranger and Bronco II. They contain information on service guide, = elec & vacuum troubleshooting and wiring diagrams. The new cost was = $109 he is asking $40. =20

If you are interested , contact:

Mark Wilcox

UNICARE/Cost Care
660 Newport Center Drive Suite 600
Newport Beach, CA 92660
(714)729-4500/(800)451-0000 ext 3741
Email: mwillcox costcare.com



Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces) Soon to have the following Randy installed options: F250 4WD 460 C-6

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 22:57:27 -0500 (EST) From: JIM HURD To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new engine break in
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My experience is that decelerating helps cool and lube the rings.

TO seat the rings (especially if you are running chrome rings), after the engine has seen 50/100 miles, you need to do a few _short_ WOT runs, say from 2000 to 3000 RPM, and then decelerate. THe WOT combustion pressure puts extra pressure on the rings, forcing them into the cylinder walls. Then the deceleration flushes them with oil, cleaning out the crosshatches and cooling the rings. _Then_ its time to change the oil.

This thread is probably one of those "religious" issues

Jim in Central NY
'79 F-150 (302!)
'92 Topaz (3.0l)

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 22:59:04 -0400
From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new engine break in -Reply Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 09:39 PM 4/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>PAYNK (Ken Payne) wrote:
>>
>> What irks me the most is when someone takes a classic 40 year old
>> piece of Ford iron and drops a GM engine in it. Barf.
>>
>
>Yea but there are more chevys out there with 9" ford rear ends than
>there are fords with Chevy 350's.
>
>Molater
>
>Daver
>

Serves em right. I saw a racing Mustang on the back of a trailer the other day that said "I wish I was a Chevy" on the back! Shows that even the Ch*vy guys know where to go to win a race!

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 22:58:52 -0400
From: Charlie Summers To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Jane, stop this crazy thing...
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At 9:48 PM -0400 4/24/97, Ken Payne is rumored to have typed:

> You're right. The problem with trying to make software foolproof
> is the fact that fools can be so damned ingenious!

Or, every time I try to make something idiot-proof, I find a bigger idiot.

Charlie

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 23:00:05 -0400
From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Double the message (hey Ken Should this happen) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 09:45 PM 4/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Ken:
>
>On certain messages I seem to be getting duplicates. Any bodyelse
>seeing this?
>
>
>Molater
>
>Daver
>
>

Yes, its the people posting the messages. I'm going to check into it. Everyone please make sure you're not 'cc' ing an extra copy of your posts to the list.

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 23:07:28 -0400
From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Once again, its an issue.
Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Today we received 4 digests at approx 30k each. List activity is enormous. I would like to suggest to the list that if this kind of activity continues for more than a week that we vote on a split again. If a split (pre 1980 and post 1980) does occur, I will have to ask for donations to pay for the second list. Total cost is $25 for the 1st 3 months and $15 every 3 months there after. I would prefer to pay for a year all at once so I wouldn't have to beg for money every 3 months. Total yearly cost for additional list is: $70. I think that between 500+ users we can manage to come up with it. Naturally, this would be voluntary - no one will be compelled to pay, but if we can't come up with $70, no second list. Users would be welcome to join one or both lists.

Opinions?

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 23:19:46 -0400
From: Charlie Summers To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: ADMINISTRIVIA (Was: Re: Double the message (hey Ken Should this happen))
Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 11:00 PM -0400 4/24/97, Ken Payne is rumored to have typed:

> Yes, its the people posting the messages. I'm going to check into
> it. Everyone please make sure you're not 'cc' ing an extra copy
> of your posts to the list.

Right. Another thing to do is be patient; if you send a message, and it doesn't appear immediately, that doesn't mean it won't. Give it a bit before re-sending your message. (Sometimes the geek who configures the mailing list server does something _really_ stupid which can delay messages. Yes, that would be me...)

A bit of administrivia: there have been a number of people subscribed to the lists here against their will by malcontents using the various web pages to make people's life miserable. We have taken steps to prevent this from happening in the future - if you are one of those people, _please_ don't send messages to the list. Send to the "list mom" address at the bottom of each message, or to me, or to the postmaster lofcom.com with a _polite_ request to be removed.

I promise to now quiet my keyboard so the list can get back to the regularly-scheduled discussion on Ford trucks, already in progress...

Charlie

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 22:37:07 -0500
From: "Kimo Owens"
To:
Subject: Re: new engine break in
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A good break in consists of the usual high RPM 15-2K for 10-15 or NORMAL op temp for 5-7 minutes then surging from 800-1500 up and down to incorporate First the cam break-in then the rims. YOU should not exceen about 45 mins of op temp at low rpm. Once this is done just get on the road and do some highway driving with surging everyonce in a while. JMOHO

Kimo

----------
> From: JIM HURD
> To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: new engine break in
> Date: Thursday, April 24, 1997 10:57 PM
>
>
> My experience is that decelerating helps cool and lube the rings.
>
> TO seat the rings (especially if you are running chrome rings), after the
> engine has seen 50/100 miles, you need to do a few _short_ WOT runs, say
> from 2000 to 3000 RPM, and then decelerate. THe WOT combustion pressure
> puts extra pressure on the rings, forcing them into the cylinder walls.
Then
> the deceleration flushes them with oil, cleaning out the crosshatches and
> cooling the rings. _Then_ its time to change the oil.
>
> This thread is probably one of those "religious" issues
>
> Jim in Central NY
> '79 F-150 (302!)
> '92 Topaz (3.0l)
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request lofcom.com
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 23:38:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Wyteye aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new engine break in
Message-ID:

PLEASE UNSUBSRIBE ME!!!!!!!!

thank you

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 23:03:44 -0500
From: "Eric and/or Denise" To:
Subject: Helping out to defer admin costs....My $.02 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hey Ken and all,

What happened to the suggestion of voting on helping you with a donation to help defray some of the List costs you experience? I saw some posts on the subject, but then none. I never emailed my thoughts on this so here goes:

I don't think it would be a good idea to require admission for access to this list. I think it would be a turn off to a lot of potential Ford truck enthusiasts if they had to pay initially. I also think, that if I were in your shoes as admin, it would be a nightmare trying to keep track of who paid this month, or if someone paid for a whole year and then wants out after 3 months, etc.... Seems like that aspect would take the fun out of what this list is all about. And I am no accountant, but it seems that this would then turn into a business for you and you'd run into a whole bunch of other issues that you may or may not want to worry about.

With that being said, I also put myself in your admin shoes, and I think that it's unfair that 500+ people (give or take a few) have an awesome forum like this that exists nowhere else (at least a few months ago when we were first discussing the possibilities) that costs them nothing and Ken Payne is forking over the bucks to make this possible.

I guess what I'm getting at is this is obviously a complex issue. I think my feeling is that we as list members could send you a donation on a voluntary basis, to help with the costs you incur in running this list. Heck, we've got 500+ members, and if 1/2 sent you 5 bucks each, you'd have $1250 bucks for the year. (This is only an example, to make my point.) Now I agree with a couple of the college folks' posts awhile back that the bucks for some people are hard to come by. We've got an 9 month old baby, one income, and find it difficult to keep ourselves above water, but I'd be the first guy to send a couple of bucks to Ken. I also paid for my 4 year electrical engineering degree BY MYSELF, so you college guys will be hard pressed to convince me that a Friday nite's beer tab couldn't be forgone for ONE nite!! ;) (If only I'd have saved that money that went to MY beer tabs!!!! I'd probably not have to work now!!!
;-{D

Anyways, my intent is NOT to flame anyone by any means... This is just my

thoughts on this subject. I guess that I would just would hate for Ken to say one day that he can't continue with this list...

Does anyone have any further comments?
Sorry for the long email and thanx for listening!

Eric

petunia indy.net
erickson vitro.bloomington.in.us
=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 23:13:52 -0500
From: "Eric and/or Denise" To:
Subject: Brain-dead Unsubscribers!!!
Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hey Ken,

First off, Congrats on the fine admin work you do for all of us (who can read directions!) on
this list!

What is it with all the folks not knowing how to unsubscribe themselves lately? As a couple of people said earlier this week... _This Annoys Me!!!_ I guess what "they" say about sniffing glue as a teenager causes brain damage is true!!! ;-)

I have a suggestion:
Can you modify the List software so that whenever it sees "unsubscribe" or "desubcribe me" sent incorrectly to the whole List that the FAQ and the ENTIRE LIST ARCHIVES are automatically downloaded to the offender?!!! That'll learn 'em!!! :-{O
As for the List milestone,
Why................it only seems like yesterday when a few of us would just CC: each other for Ford Truck info! Now, through your dedication, we're up to 500+!!! Just amazing! Keep up the fantastic job!

Eric
petunia indy.net
erickson vitro.bloomington.in.us
=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
=============================

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 23:06:02 -0500
From: "Eric and/or Denise" To:
Subject: '65 F100 for sale
Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hey everyone,

I posted this yesterday morn, but it never showed up, -seems that something hokey is going on with my work accout, so I'll try it again from home...

In my truckly travels, I came across a neat old truck for sale:
1965 F100
Looked like pretty decent sheet metal
Painted white (not the best paint job up close, but it's better than mine!!!!)
Re-done interior, with modern steering column Alum. mags
Fiberglass Tonneau cover
Appeared to have a small block chevy (SBC) engine $1995
Located in south central Indiana.

I can find out more details about this if someone is interested. I have no other affiliation with this vehicle other than just thought it was cool and I stopped to check it out.....

Have a great day!
Eric
petunia indy.net
erickson vitro.bloomington.in.us
=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 23:02:15 -0500 (CDT) From: William Sabers To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new engine break in
Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

It is nice to know that there are others out there who realize that something that many years of martial arts has taught me... "It is all in the application.... "

End to Story
,,,,,,,, Save the trash for a bowtie!
Wsabers
69 Mach I
78 Bronco

P.S. my current 351Boss hase NEVER lost t a Big Block at the "stop light Gran Prix" FoMoCo D*dge orch*vy a Ch*vy wtie.... Straight track... well,
that's another story...

On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Daver wrote:

> Gerald and Lisa Hoel wrote:
> >
> > Thank you William for the note on the 351M. I am just about tired of
> > everyone banging on the modified & calling it junk. Our philosophy is if
> > it works for YOU than it is the best for YOU. Anyone who thinks the
> > modified is a slug/piece of crap or otherwise worthless garbage well
> > kiss my a %!!!
> >
> > We just put a grand into rebuilding our Modified and she is a sweet
> > piece of machinery for us and so is the gas mileage (20mpg) so you
> > testosterone filled Rolex carrying fuel suckers who need to have speed
> > can just shove your accelerator through the floor burn rubber and keep
> > going 'cause I got no use for any of you!And while you stop at the gas
> > station 10 miles down the road we'll wave to you as we pass on by and
> > keep TRUCKIN......
>
> Sorry you feel that way. every one has thier preferences. I like FE's
> And doesn't alwas trip peoples trigers either. People that run HiPro
> are generally good the ask about things because they are hard to a fault
> on parts and if a certain part is breakable we'll find it more often
> than not.
>
> Not all of us Knock the 351M/400. I personally recognize them as good
> solid equipment. Folks some people look for adversity and unrest and it
> is to bad because we're here to try to help each other and this type
> crap damages those efforts. If you do not like something simple say I
> do not and leave it at that. Some of you guys sound like Chevy owners.
>
> >
> > I love this list and my husband and I have learned a ton from you all
> > but if you don't like something dont carry into name calling and
> > slamming. Just state you prefer something LARGER!! Furthermore, since we
> > all are supposed to be Ford enthusiasts, don't bang a Ford motor. Isnt
> > there enough Ch !y metal out there for you guys to badmouth and pick on?
> >
> > Jerry & Lisa
> > '77 F-150 Ranger with a 351M .060 and PROUD OF IT!!!
>
> There are many ways to do a particular task 99% of them work 50 % are
> desirable 10% are the best.
>
> Molater
>
> Daver
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request lofcom.com
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
>
>

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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 00:21:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Wyteye aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new engine break in
Message-ID:

PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!!!!!

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:30:43 -1200
From: Michael & Linda Waak To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Send A Buck?
Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hey Folks,

All of us who have been around the internet and on usenet for a while have seen this crap of some slob asking all of us to send him a buck to help him out.

Well we have a pretty good thing here and if its time to put up or shut up I say WHERE DO I SEND MY MONEY?

We enjoy the fruit of Ken and Charlie's labor and if Ken needs our help to keep it going I'm in.

M

BTW As to this unsub etc... these F! #$%^ A*&^%$# need a brick dropped in thier mailboxes.

Thanks for the space to vent N rant

Michael & Linda Waak (mikewaak jps.net)

"By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment. By Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation."

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 22:41:21 -0600
From: Randy Collins To: "'FORDTRUCKS'" Subject: Vote and Cash Offer
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Ken,

I would like to change my vote of a few weeks ago from no to yes. I = vote for the split! The mail volume is overwhelming. Besides if the = post 80's are archived a fella could always do a search. =20

I vote no for the requirement of a membership for the mail list. = Voluntary donations are the way to go. =20

I have written to you before with the offer of a help of a few bucks to = help minimize the costs. Please reply to this post with your address so = I can send a donation. =20

Thanks again, the mail list is awesome. =20

Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford Supercab Longbed Muscle Truck (mostly in pieces) Soon to have the following Randy installed options: F250 4WD 460 C-6

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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 00:36:55 +0000
From: "Jason C Wodack" To: fordtrucks lofcom.com....

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