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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 55

Today's Topics:

67 grille [John Strauss
Misfire [John Strauss
FE Blocks [John Strauss
Re: Hi [William Sabers
Re: A modest proposal [William Sabers
352 HIPO connecting rods [Stuart Varner
Re: mileage [William Sabers
Re: Misfire [William Sabers
Re: Hi - Reply [Glen Pace ]
Misfire [John Strauss
Re: mileage ["Kimo Owens" ]
Holley Carb [Gerald and Lisa Hoel
Re: mileage -Reply [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
Dilema (sp?) -Reply [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
Tires -Reply [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
Need digest 48 & 49 [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
Unibody Production Figures [John Strauss
Re: Muffler's [schneeberger juno.com (Zack H Schne]
Re: 352 HIPO connecting rods [Mathew Baker
driveshaft slack [Gardner ]
Re: It can't be said enough, Thank y [RL ]
drivetrain [Gardner ]
Pictorial is down [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
'77 F-150 Ranger [Gerald and Lisa Hoel


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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:14:23 -0500 (CDT) From: John Strauss To: Ford Trucks List Subject: 67 grille
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>Also, does anyone know if more than one grille was offered on the 1967
>F-100? I think that some have a "Ranger" tag and some do not. Is this
>correct?
>
In 1967, the only difference in grilles would have been chrome or painted.
Although a Ranger trim package was offered in 1967, the red center stripe and "Ranger" badge was not applied to the grille until 1968.

John

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:14:26 -0500 (CDT) From: John Strauss To: Ford Trucks List Subject: Misfire
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>Okay, I have a '91 F-150 that seems to misfire when I am driving it at any
>speed. My question is has anyone ever had this happen to them, if so how
>did you fix it? Here is some other info, the truck has 170,000 miles on it, >and I have just replace the shortblock in it. (300 I-6) Along with a few >other parts.
>If anyone has any help whatsoever PLEASE tell me! :) As you can see I am
>somewhat frustrated by this nonsence.
>
It sounds from many of the notes that you might have a "surge", not really a misfire. If so, you likely have a worn Exhaust Valve Position (EVP) sensor. The failure of the EVP is a common problem in Fords. Both my '90 and '91 are so afflicted. Here's what I do - take the EVP sensor off of the EGR valve (it's a light gray plastic doohickey attached to the top of the EGR valve by 3 little bolts and has a black molex plug attached) and press the plunger in and out vigorously. This will temporarily clean the film inside and make it work. When I do this to mine it usually lasts a month or two. You should probably also reset the computer by disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes. If this takes care of the problem, then you need a new EVP sensor.

John

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:14:25 -0500 (CDT) From: John Strauss To: Ford Trucks List Subject: FE Blocks
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>In '67 it's probably a 360 or 390.
>
If you know it's the original motor your mystery is over. The 352 was the only V8 option for the 1967 F100. The 360/390s were first offered in 1968.

John

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:36:26 -0500 (CDT) From: William Sabers To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Hi
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Chad--
If you want to do anything with the heads, have them milled, put new springs in 'em and that should be ok...( and oversized valves -esp.
the exhaust -if you have the coin ) There are several bolt-on accessories that can improve your power. Edelbrok Torker I series manifolds, a 750 cfm carberator, and a decent cam (ck the exhaust duration, especially if you do not have anything done to the valves).
Despite some opinions the 351M-400 series of motors are good torque-ee workhorses. Good luck.

wsabers
69 Mach I (351 Boss)
78 Bronco (400 )

On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Chad Pasma wrote:

> Hi from the great white north.
> I joined this list because I just got a 1978 F100 2wd for only $130.
> It has a 351M with C6 transmission and has 115k kms (70k miles).
> The front end on the body is good but it needs a box.
> It also has original genuine Ford topper.
>
> I would like to rebuild the motor for decent power (2 barrel sucks) without
> the added cost of buying a 351W or 351C. I have been advised that I
> would need 4 barrel Cleveland heads and I would like to get an Edelbrock
> intake and Holley 600 carb. I'm hoping the bottom end is good so I can
> rebuild at minimal cost. Any recomendations or advice is very welcome.
>
> How can I tell what rear-end my truck has? 9-inch would be nice...
>
> Can anyone tell me the best place to get a good box for my truck?
> Would it be easier to find one in the States for it? (I'm planning to go
> to Michigan in the next 2 weeks)
>
> I have a line on Daytona buckets for cheap. I'm building a budget truck.
> Personally I'd rather build an S10 with 350 but this is much cheaper so I'll
> stick with it for now :)
>
> Thanks in advance
> Chad Pasma
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:46:34 -0500 (CDT) From: William Sabers To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: A modest proposal
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To your proposal... My '69 Mach I with its little 351 Boss (modified Cleveland) eats chevy 350's for lunch.
never saw a bowtie of equal cubes do better - and be street legal in all 50 states - it just cost more ... heh, just like mopar!

Wsabers




On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, graham strouse wrote:

> Gentleman, words are wind!
>
> Ever since the budget builder foolishly revealed his Chevophilia, you
> have emitted more flatulence than the exhaust behind a tired SBC. Take a
> cue from the Mopar folks--put up or shut up!
>
> Have you noticed how much vintage Ford tin out there is motorvated by
> 350s? When was the last time you saw a 55 Chevy powered by a Cleveland
> or FE? Can you see where I'm leading?
>
> My open proposal is this: Find yourselves a nice, classic Chevy (nobody
> would care about an S-10), and to a complete rod-storation with NOTHING
> BUT FORD PARTS!
>
> Slam, tub, stuff it with a narrowed 9". Yank the sick six and stuff the
> engine bay with a real stomper--460, 428CJ, or a Cammer if you're truly
> fortunate/loaded. Relieve the body of all Chevy-related trim and
> emblems. To improve driver comfort, I suggest installing one of those
> nice 6-way T-bird seats, and to improve gauge visibility during those
> murky nights, Dakota gauges mounted within an F-100 dash would be nice.
>
> I wish I had the funds (and wrenching skill) to undertake this project,
> but I am young, a recent graduate of a liberal arts school (thus, poor),
> and I'm probably going to be moving soon. I am also a journalist, and if
> someone was interested in undertaking this project, I would do my utmost
> to see that it got a Truckin magazine feature.
>
> Also, regarding a comment by list-mom Ken Payne, I am a Yankee by birth,
> a Floridian by disposition, and I have always been a fan of General Lee.
> I prefer Southern hospitality to the Protestant work ethic, but I also
> must admit that ya'll tend to be stone-cold stupid when it comes to
> pickin' fights.
>
> Hit 'em where it hurts!
>
> Graham
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:31:11 -0700
From: Stuart Varner To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: 352 HIPO connecting rods
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Daver,

This is a very interesting proposal, putting 352 HiPo connecting rods in the 360 ......I have been wrestling with the idea of going with 390 hipo internals, 390 GT heads, aluminum intake, 4 bbl to help my 360 have more punch....too costly so it is not an option........I never thought of
going with 352 internals. Do you have experience with this? What all would need to be done to the heads and other internal components? I would be interesting in hearing the results of this as I will be rebuilding my
360 this summer(maybe fall). Thanks. NUKE GM!

STU

71 F-100 4X4

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:59:19 -0500 (CDT) From: William Sabers To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: mileage
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Some of you guys just don't like the 351M-400's
I have 60,000 on my 78 Bronco and I still get 16+mpg... in town, on the road, wherever. And she will pull a stump with little effort.
The engine has never been opened and runs like a champ.

> >
> > Do the valve covers look the same on both motors? If they do, it's a
> > 351W, if not, it may be a 351M, or even a 400, which would explain the
> > poor economy, another question is whats the gear ratio? Whats the tire
> > > size? These are all factors in fuel economy....
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:02:16 -0500 (CDT) From: William Sabers To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Misfire
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Check distributor, caps n' rotors. What is the resistance in your plug wires??? how are the plugs... Finally two more words.... Carb kit.

Wsabers
69 Mach I
78 Bronco
>
On Sun, 20 Apr 1997, Ryan Penner wrote:

> Okay, I have a '91 F-150 that seems to misfire when I am driving it at any
> speed. My question is has anyone ever had this happen to them, if so how did
> you fix it? Here is some other info, the truck has 170,000 miles on it, and I
> have just replace the shortblock in it. (300 I-6) Along with a few other
> parts.
> If anyone has any help whatsoever PLEASE tell me! :) As you can see I am
> somewhat frustrated by this nonsence.
>
> Thanx.
>
> Ryan Penner
> 1991 Ford F150 4x2. Custom!
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:27:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Glen Pace To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Hi - Reply
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I did the intake and bigger carb thing on my 351M and it did give a little more power but mpg was still very bad. If you are going to take the engine out for a rebuild I recomend swapping a 460 in
it has much more power and gets about the same gas milage.
Good luck
Glen

96 F-350 4x4
77 F-250 4x4

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:56:36 -0500 (CDT) From: John Strauss To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Misfire
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>On Sun, 20 Apr 1997, Ryan Penner wrote:
>
>> Okay, I have a '91 F-150 that seems to misfire when I am driving it at any
>> speed. My question is has anyone ever had this happen to them, if so how did
>> you fix it? Here is some other info, the truck has 170,000 miles on it, and I
>> have just replace the shortblock in it. (300 I-6) Along with a few other
>> parts.
>> If anyone has any help whatsoever PLEASE tell me! :) As you can see I am
>> somewhat frustrated by this nonsence.
>>
>> Thanx.
>>
>> Ryan Penner
>> 1991 Ford F150 4x2. Custom!
>
>Check distributor, caps n' rotors. What is the resistance in your plug....

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