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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 55

Today's Topics:

67 grille [John Strauss
Misfire [John Strauss
FE Blocks [John Strauss
Re: Hi [William Sabers
Re: A modest proposal [William Sabers
352 HIPO connecting rods [Stuart Varner
Re: mileage [William Sabers
Re: Misfire [William Sabers
Re: Hi - Reply [Glen Pace ]
Misfire [John Strauss
Re: mileage ["Kimo Owens" ]
Holley Carb [Gerald and Lisa Hoel
Re: mileage -Reply [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
Dilema (sp?) -Reply [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
Tires -Reply [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
Need digest 48 & 49 [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
Unibody Production Figures [John Strauss
Re: Muffler's [schneeberger juno.com (Zack H Schne]
Re: 352 HIPO connecting rods [Mathew Baker
driveshaft slack [Gardner ]
Re: It can't be said enough, Thank y [RL ]
drivetrain [Gardner ]
Pictorial is down [PAYNK (Ken Payne)
'77 F-150 Ranger [Gerald and Lisa Hoel


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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:14:23 -0500 (CDT) From: John Strauss To: Ford Trucks List Subject: 67 grille
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>Also, does anyone know if more than one grille was offered on the 1967
>F-100? I think that some have a "Ranger" tag and some do not. Is this
>correct?
>
In 1967, the only difference in grilles would have been chrome or painted.
Although a Ranger trim package was offered in 1967, the red center stripe and "Ranger" badge was not applied to the grille until 1968.

John

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:14:26 -0500 (CDT) From: John Strauss To: Ford Trucks List Subject: Misfire
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>Okay, I have a '91 F-150 that seems to misfire when I am driving it at any
>speed. My question is has anyone ever had this happen to them, if so how
>did you fix it? Here is some other info, the truck has 170,000 miles on it, >and I have just replace the shortblock in it. (300 I-6) Along with a few >other parts.
>If anyone has any help whatsoever PLEASE tell me! :) As you can see I am
>somewhat frustrated by this nonsence.
>
It sounds from many of the notes that you might have a "surge", not really a misfire. If so, you likely have a worn Exhaust Valve Position (EVP) sensor. The failure of the EVP is a common problem in Fords. Both my '90 and '91 are so afflicted. Here's what I do - take the EVP sensor off of the EGR valve (it's a light gray plastic doohickey attached to the top of the EGR valve by 3 little bolts and has a black molex plug attached) and press the plunger in and out vigorously. This will temporarily clean the film inside and make it work. When I do this to mine it usually lasts a month or two. You should probably also reset the computer by disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes. If this takes care of the problem, then you need a new EVP sensor.

John

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:14:25 -0500 (CDT) From: John Strauss To: Ford Trucks List Subject: FE Blocks
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>In '67 it's probably a 360 or 390.
>
If you know it's the original motor your mystery is over. The 352 was the only V8 option for the 1967 F100. The 360/390s were first offered in 1968.

John

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:36:26 -0500 (CDT) From: William Sabers To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Hi
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Chad--
If you want to do anything with the heads, have them milled, put new springs in 'em and that should be ok...( and oversized valves -esp.
the exhaust -if you have the coin ) There are several bolt-on accessories that can improve your power. Edelbrok Torker I series manifolds, a 750 cfm carberator, and a decent cam (ck the exhaust duration, especially if you do not have anything done to the valves).
Despite some opinions the 351M-400 series of motors are good torque-ee workhorses. Good luck.

wsabers
69 Mach I (351 Boss)
78 Bronco (400 )

On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Chad Pasma wrote:

> Hi from the great white north.
> I joined this list because I just got a 1978 F100 2wd for only $130.
> It has a 351M with C6 transmission and has 115k kms (70k miles).
> The front end on the body is good but it needs a box.
> It also has original genuine Ford topper.
>
> I would like to rebuild the motor for decent power (2 barrel sucks) without
> the added cost of buying a 351W or 351C. I have been advised that I
> would need 4 barrel Cleveland heads and I would like to get an Edelbrock
> intake and Holley 600 carb. I'm hoping the bottom end is good so I can
> rebuild at minimal cost. Any recomendations or advice is very welcome.
>
> How can I tell what rear-end my truck has? 9-inch would be nice...
>
> Can anyone tell me the best place to get a good box for my truck?
> Would it be easier to find one in the States for it? (I'm planning to go
> to Michigan in the next 2 weeks)
>
> I have a line on Daytona buckets for cheap. I'm building a budget truck.
> Personally I'd rather build an S10 with 350 but this is much cheaper so I'll
> stick with it for now :)
>
> Thanks in advance
> Chad Pasma
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:46:34 -0500 (CDT) From: William Sabers To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: A modest proposal
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To your proposal... My '69 Mach I with its little 351 Boss (modified Cleveland) eats chevy 350's for lunch.
never saw a bowtie of equal cubes do better - and be street legal in all 50 states - it just cost more ... heh, just like mopar!

Wsabers




On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, graham strouse wrote:

> Gentleman, words are wind!
>
> Ever since the budget builder foolishly revealed his Chevophilia, you
> have emitted more flatulence than the exhaust behind a tired SBC. Take a
> cue from the Mopar folks--put up or shut up!
>
> Have you noticed how much vintage Ford tin out there is motorvated by
> 350s? When was the last time you saw a 55 Chevy powered by a Cleveland
> or FE? Can you see where I'm leading?
>
> My open proposal is this: Find yourselves a nice, classic Chevy (nobody
> would care about an S-10), and to a complete rod-storation with NOTHING
> BUT FORD PARTS!
>
> Slam, tub, stuff it with a narrowed 9". Yank the sick six and stuff the
> engine bay with a real stomper--460, 428CJ, or a Cammer if you're truly
> fortunate/loaded. Relieve the body of all Chevy-related trim and
> emblems. To improve driver comfort, I suggest installing one of those
> nice 6-way T-bird seats, and to improve gauge visibility during those
> murky nights, Dakota gauges mounted within an F-100 dash would be nice.
>
> I wish I had the funds (and wrenching skill) to undertake this project,
> but I am young, a recent graduate of a liberal arts school (thus, poor),
> and I'm probably going to be moving soon. I am also a journalist, and if
> someone was interested in undertaking this project, I would do my utmost
> to see that it got a Truckin magazine feature.
>
> Also, regarding a comment by list-mom Ken Payne, I am a Yankee by birth,
> a Floridian by disposition, and I have always been a fan of General Lee.
> I prefer Southern hospitality to the Protestant work ethic, but I also
> must admit that ya'll tend to be stone-cold stupid when it comes to
> pickin' fights.
>
> Hit 'em where it hurts!
>
> Graham
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:31:11 -0700
From: Stuart Varner To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: 352 HIPO connecting rods
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Daver,

This is a very interesting proposal, putting 352 HiPo connecting rods in the 360 ......I have been wrestling with the idea of going with 390 hipo internals, 390 GT heads, aluminum intake, 4 bbl to help my 360 have more punch....too costly so it is not an option........I never thought of
going with 352 internals. Do you have experience with this? What all would need to be done to the heads and other internal components? I would be interesting in hearing the results of this as I will be rebuilding my
360 this summer(maybe fall). Thanks. NUKE GM!

STU

71 F-100 4X4

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:59:19 -0500 (CDT) From: William Sabers To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: mileage
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Some of you guys just don't like the 351M-400's
I have 60,000 on my 78 Bronco and I still get 16+mpg... in town, on the road, wherever. And she will pull a stump with little effort.
The engine has never been opened and runs like a champ.

> >
> > Do the valve covers look the same on both motors? If they do, it's a
> > 351W, if not, it may be a 351M, or even a 400, which would explain the
> > poor economy, another question is whats the gear ratio? Whats the tire
> > size? These are all factors in fuel economy....
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:02:16 -0500 (CDT) From: William Sabers To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Misfire
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Check distributor, caps n' rotors. What is the resistance in your plug wires??? how are the plugs... Finally two more words.... Carb kit.

Wsabers
69 Mach I
78 Bronco

On Sun, 20 Apr 1997, Ryan Penner wrote:

> Okay, I have a '91 F-150 that seems to misfire when I am driving it at any
> speed. My question is has anyone ever had this happen to them, if so how did
> you fix it? Here is some other info, the truck has 170,000 miles on it, and I
> have just replace the shortblock in it. (300 I-6) Along with a few other
> parts.
> If anyone has any help whatsoever PLEASE tell me! :) As you can see I am
> somewhat frustrated by this nonsence.
>
> Thanx.
>
> Ryan Penner
> 1991 Ford F150 4x2. Custom!
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:27:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Glen Pace To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Hi - Reply
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I did the intake and bigger carb thing on my 351M and it did give a little more power but mpg was still very bad. If you are going to take the engine out for a rebuild I recomend swapping a 460 in
it has much more power and gets about the same gas milage.
Good luck
Glen

96 F-350 4x4
77 F-250 4x4

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:56:36 -0500 (CDT) From: John Strauss To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Misfire
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>On Sun, 20 Apr 1997, Ryan Penner wrote:
>
>> Okay, I have a '91 F-150 that seems to misfire when I am driving it at any
>> speed. My question is has anyone ever had this happen to them, if so how did
>> you fix it? Here is some other info, the truck has 170,000 miles on it, and I
>> have just replace the shortblock in it. (300 I-6) Along with a few other
>> parts.
>> If anyone has any help whatsoever PLEASE tell me! :) As you can see I am
>> somewhat frustrated by this nonsence.
>>
>> Thanx.
>>
>> Ryan Penner
>> 1991 Ford F150 4x2. Custom!
>
>Check distributor, caps n' rotors. What is the resistance in your plug
>wires??? how are the plugs... Finally two more words.... Carb kit.
>

I don't think a carb kit is going to help a '91 F150 - the 300-Six has been EFI since 1987.

John

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:03:02 -0400
From: "Kimo Owens"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: mileage
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Hey Will, I just noticed you have a Bronco. I would like to inform you of this great Mailing list called the BigBroncos. Just send an E-Mail to the below address and put subscribe in the body, I think. If it is wrong you should get a response on how to do it. It is from Off-Road.com web page and it is just a must. Let me know if you want any further info. Bronco's All the Way.

Kimo

majordomo off -road. com

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:06:29 -0400
From: Gerald and Lisa Hoel To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Holley Carb
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We have a Holley 1860/4160 4 barrel carb that came on our'77 F-150 (351M .060 over). We purchased a rebuild kit but we were not able to fix a leak at the secondary butterfly shaft. We've been informed by our local know-it-all that the carb is worn out and we just need to replace it (with an 850 no less). We would greatly appreciate the opinions of some better informed individuals. Also, could this be the cause of our newly rebuilt and otherwise smooth running engine just shutting off?

Thanks any and all FordTruck lovers!!

Jerry & Lisa

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:07:37 -0400
From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: mileage -Reply
Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>> "James A. Doty" 04/20/97 09:58pm >>>
>Hi Ken:

>I don't know what the mileage used to be. I bought the van last
>July from a local *odge dealership.

-snip-

Before you get to the bearings, I'd do a complete tune-up, oil change, etc. Make sure you set the timing and idle mixture correctly. You might want to get a carb rebuild kit also. Ask us if you need any help with any of this.
You ought to be able to do better than 8mpg, 10 or 12 (sometimes more) is what you should be getting. All these are things that need to be done anyways so why not check them first - plus they are cheaper (most likely you'll have to pay someone to take off and install the bearings on the rear axles (you can take just the axles to most shops - saves a bunch of money)).

Anyways, keep up informed.

Ken

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:08:07 -0400
From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Dilema (sp?) -Reply
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>>> 04/19/97 10:21pm >>>
>Ford folks, I am faced with a dilema of biblical proportions. I am in need
>of a Solomon type judgement. Here's the scoop, and I hope you will email me
>advice, please keep the flames to a small burner, I am sensitive and will
>break easily:

>I bought a fully loaded F150 XLT 302 in 95. Shortly thereafter, my son
>needed a new truck for his job. Defering to peer pressure (I didn't know he
>had such a self esteem problem) he wanted a Chevy. Well, these were hard to
>come by at the time, what with GM strikes and all, but I did find him a very
>nice fully loaded 95 GMC with a 350, yes a Chevy at heart.
>He can no longer afford this GMC-but we found a very nice 88 F150 4X for
>him. Now I have two trucks and must part with one of the 95's. I can barely
>afford one, much less both. THe Ford has 37k miles and the GM has 57kmiles.
>The GM is worth about a thousand more than my pampered Ford.
>The dilema is that I have grown to like the torque of the 350 vs my romping
>horsepowerful 302. It might even be better for trailering, though my Ford is
>just fine thank you. Which do you think I should keep? Please address mail
>to me and NOT THE LIST, as I suspect Ken would not like this discussion all
>over the list. Waiting for flames, and hoping for real advice!
>Dave Lampert yhtlines surfari.net

Dave, actually I think this might belong on the list as it really does discuss the practical side of Ford vs GM. This is really up to everyone here. My personal opinion is to go with your gut feeling - take which ever truck best suits the application. If you want more towing, the 350 wins. Longevity and hp, 302 hands down. However, with a cam change you can easily make the 302 a towing torque monster, for a lot less that the $1000 more you can get by selling the GM. Also, though the GM is "worth more" - is it really? How long until the 350 needs a rebuild? Realistically at about 150,000+ miles. You'll get that at the very least out of the 302 if you don't abuse it. Whatever you do, don't do anything on the spur of the moment - if you're like me you'll regret it later.

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:08:37 -0400
From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Tires -Reply
Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

-snip-
>Marc, I have the BFG Mud Terrains on my 6" lifter F-150 S/C. With 12,000
>miles
>there is little sign of wear. On my 1990 F-150 I went thru 3 sets of
>these
>wonderful tires. First set to over 60k and did not get to the wear bars.
>
>I put new rubber on (same BFG) and got over 50K. Only replaced them at
>that
>point to add a safety margine to a cross country trip. Sold the 50K tires
>for
>a good price in a garage sale. When I sold the 1990 (w/150K miles!) I
>gave the
>tires and wheels to my father-in-law. He put them on his Bronco last year.
>
>Drives the truck daily over 200 miles. Tires are still going strong.
>

I've had great success with the BFG A/Ts. They help hold a curve really well (then again, it may by the 10.5 width!) and have held up real well as far as wear is concerned.

>The 1990 had 12.50 x 33 R15 and my 96 has 12.50 x 35.
>
>***I know Ken, change the gears, change the gears ;-) I'll do it***
>

Real soon I'm going to have two 3.25 geared 9 inch rear ends for sale.\ One is just the pumpkin: need a new yoke for it, new front bearing and then its as good as new - preload is already set correctly - should have it ready sometime in the next two weeks. The other is complete with axle, new bearings all the way around, very good condition. Both units are cleaned and painted black. More on these when they're ready.

>In conclusion (finally!) I wouldn't run anything but BFGoddrich tires.
>
>Mud Terrains for my truck. And properly sized BFGs for wife's car.
>

>Randy Z.
>

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:10:13 -0400
From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Need digest 48 & 49
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If anyone has digest 48 and 49, please email them to me. Although I do a nightly backup, these two were accidently deleted before the backup (actually I wiped all of them and I pulled all the others off a backup tape). If I can't get them then the archives will be missing them.

Help!!!

Ken

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:14:15 -0400
From: John Strauss To: Ford Trucks List Subject: Unibody Production Figures
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>I just started recieving this mailing, and am very pleased with it.
>This was my first Digest, and when I started reading it I was very
>surprised. My dad recently bought a 1963 Ford Unibody, and didn't know
>how rare they were. He later found out that the 1963's were only
>produced for half a year, but didn't know where to find information
>about them. If anyone can tell me where to find production numbers for
>Ford trucks I would really appreciate it. Also, he is willing to sell
>it, and anyone interested can E-mail me about it. Anyways, I think that
>this is a great list and thanks to Ken for making it!
>
I have the figures at home - will try to remember to bring it in tomorrow.
I don't remember whether it breaks it down by body configuration or not.

Just for my FYI, is it a "big window" or a Custom Cab? Just curious.

John

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:16:34 EDT
From: schneeberger juno.com (Zack H Schneeberger) To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Muffler's
Message-ID:

Alright, you could write a whole essay on this but yes, mufflers can add horsepower, noise, and give better performance. I have a Thrush Turbo Tube which is basically a straight tube. It gives me more power and not to mention the cool sound. It cost me about 35.00. On the other hand you can go with a Flowmaster which doesn't give you the extra loud sound for anywhere from 50 to 80 dollars. Check out everything before you buy. Try Summit as a source.

Zack Schneeberger
(schneeberger juno.com)
(MCCW75A prodigy.com)

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:29:45 -0400
From: Mathew Baker To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 352 HIPO connecting rods
Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Stuart Varner wrote:
>
> Daver,
>
> This is a very interesting proposal, putting 352 HiPo connecting rods
> in the 360 ......I have been wrestling with the idea of going with
> 390 hipo internals, 390 GT heads, aluminum intake, 4 bbl to help my 360
> have more punch....too costly so it is not an option........I never
> thought of...

PAW has 428 crank and rod kits for 428 engines, just tell them that you are building a 410 FE engine. The 410 is just a 360/390 block with a 428 crank. You use the 428 crank and rods with 390/360 pistons, and everything else is the same. For those people who think that a 31/400M is a torqey motor try one of these.


Mat Baker
'64 F-250 4X4, 292 Thunderbird Y-block

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:47:24 -0400
From: Gardner
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: driveshaft slack
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I hav ereplied to several of the questions but never had one of my own, but now I do! I have a 94 Ford Ranger Splash 4 cylinder 5 spd and I have what I think seems to be alot of slack in the drivetrain somewhere, I checked the universal joints and they were fine, next I was going to try the rear transmission mount. The problem is the it makes the same sound as when you have a bad universal joint when you shift or let of the gas sometimes. The transmission has been out under warranty to replace the third gear sancynizer, the idiot that owned it before pulled a 40 foot boot with it, but if you have any other ideas they would be appreciated.
Thanks Chris

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:50:15 -0400
From: RL
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: It can't be said enough, Thank you Ken!
Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I wanted to say that I like the list very much as my questions have been answered and every one is helpful. I would not like to see a fee charged as being a college student the costs would add up. I hang around and "listen" because I really don't know that much so I just soak it in and hopefully learn something. Thats all
Ryan

> I just want to clarify one thing - I feel very strong about not *requiring*
> payment for the list. Voluntary payment would be up to the membership.
> There are alot of broke college students (and others) who really could save
> time and money by the advice they receive here - but some of them may not
> be able to afford to pay. How much of our membership would we lose? I'm
> willing to bet over half.
>
> Alot of people hang around for a month, ask a few questions, answer a few
> questions, lose interest and leave. But these people do contribute greatly
> to the content of the postings. I doubt they would have hung around at all
> if payment was required. Nick Finney comes to mind (unless he's rejoined -
> hard to tell with 475+ members), I haven't seen him around but he gave
> some incredibly good advice last month - had me going back to double check
> what I've learned on occasion.
>
> Also, how many times have you found a cool web page or other item on the
> internet and then you saw a price tag - were you disappointed?
>
> Just some thoughts.....

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:55:16 -0500
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Hi everyone. I have a 94 Ford Ranger and there seems to be slack i the drivetrain somewhere, sounds like a bad universal joint, but there okay, I think it may be the rear transmission mount but I'm not sure, any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks Chris

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:21:47 -0500
From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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Hello everyone,

Last week I spent numerous hours trimming down the size of the graphics and HTML files on the web site. I succeeded in keeping the content the same but reduced the size by 40%. Over the course of the weekend our site became active with several more search engines (this is something that was started weeks ago, I had no idea it would grow this fast). The end result is that we gained new subscribers and the web site is now once again over my bandwidth limit. The site has taken an average of 4672 file hits a day since the first of the month. My daily limit is 10,240k bytes a day transfer, the site is averaging 12,164k bytes a day. Yesterday the transfer was (after all my "optimizing") still over 11,000k bytes.

I'm in serious risk of losing this account (and my email address) if I don't get it under control. Until further notice, the pictorial is down - its eating 30% of the bandwidth.

I'm currently looking for inexpensive web space which allows FTP updating (sometimes I add daily to the site). If anyone can provide space temporarily we can have the pictorial back up until I find a new home for our site. Don't worry, book marks won't change as the home page would stay the same with links to the new site.

I spend some time with my providers customer support concerning my site usage. More bandwidth from them will cost me $19.95 a month.
I'm not willing to spending an additional twenty bucks a month for pictures.....


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