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Return-Path: From: fordtrucks-digest-request Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:46:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks-digest-request Subject: fordtrucks-digest Digest V97 #3 X-Loop: fordtrucks-digest X-Mailing-List: archive/volume97/3 To: fordtrucks-digest Reply-To: fordtrucks ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 53 Today's Topics: Re: Unidentified subject! [chita Re: It can't be said enough, Thank y [FOMOCONUT Re: FE blocks [mcat '77 F-150 Ranger [Gerald and Lisa Hoel Fwd: unsubscribe [UPSglen Re: FE blocks [Ken Payne ] Re: It can't be said enough, Thank y [Ken Payne ] Ken Payne [ ] Re: Unidentified subject! [Ken Payne ] Re: '77 F-150 Ranger [Ken Payne ] slow boat from Ohio [Eric Houkal ] Re: mileage ["James A. Doty" ] Re: FE blocks [sdelanty Re: mileage ["James A. Doty" ] Re: mileage [Ken Payne ] Re: slow boat from Ohio [Ken Payne ] Re: Napco parts [Stuart Varner Re: Tires [silent.bob Misfire ["Ryan Penner" ] Re: slow boat from Ohio [Chris North ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:35:57 -0700 From: chita To: Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > job. Also put a bed liner in it and then Mr. Rust paid a visit so now I'm > trying to figure out how to save the box as original as I can. Any ideas??? I'm sure there are long, complicated ways to handle rust. My own experience is that if you ever decide to use a rust converter (not remover - converter) the ONE that really works the best is liquid Extend. I've rescued many metal objects using Extend as the base coat (followed by primer and paint) and Extend works better than anything. It can be sanded wet or dry with silicon carbide. I haven't tried to put a show coat of paint on after it though, you'll have to ask someone with more experience in that area if that's where the redo is going. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:41:08 -0400 (EDT) From: FOMOCONUT To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: It can't be said enough, Thank you Ken! Message-ID: Fellow enthiusiasts....and Ken... Having just signed on today it may sound strange to everyone that I would want to comment already....but here goes... To my new commrades... I feel lucky to have found this list and have a great feel for the job Ken has done already. From just the few letters I have read to this point I am impressed. The integrity that Ken shows by not selling out is rare if not downright exclusive. I am proud to have joined you all. Any decision that the Senior membership decides on this issue of " payment " is welcomed by me. I would like to add that if we did pay a membership...one thing we could have is a member directory of sorts.....to display our individual expertise areas and expierience. Thanks to Ken .....and here's to us......Ford Truck friends....... John L. Miller ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 08:14:07 PDT From: mcat To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: FE blocks Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Drew On the right side of the clyinder block near the front is a casting #. What is it? Also there is a date code on the block. Look between the sparkplugs in the center of the head for a casting#. I can narrow the size down with these #s. On the front of the manifold left front under the coil there may or may not be a metal tag. This is the engine ID tag. It will tell you the yr size and carb model. Good luck. Garry --- On Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:41:08 -0500 Daver wrote: >Drew Beatty wrote: >> >> Hello all >> >> Without disassembling, how can I tell whether an FE block is a 352, 390, or 360? >> I have heard many different things from many different people. I now turn to the >> list to enhance my confusion. > >The only sure fire way is to pull the heads and mic it. > >> >> Also, does anyone know if more than one grille was offered on the 1967 F-100? I >> think that some have a "Ranger" tag and some do not. Is this correct? >> > >Mine did'nt say any thing in the grill and it's a ranger. > >Molater > >Daver > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >For help send mail with subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks-request >Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > -----------------End of Original Message----------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Garry E-mail: mcat Date: 4/20/97 Time: 8:14:07 AM 427 Fe powered F-100 Wild by design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 10:44:53 -0400 From: Gerald and Lisa Hoel To: FORDTRUCKS Subject: '77 F-150 Ranger Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We purchased a 1977 F-150 Ranger about 2 mos ago and have wondered about some of the other components on the truck. We know the engine is a 351M and the tranny is a C6. Does anyone know how to identify the transfer case and axles(ie Dana 44 etc.). Also, how was the truck originally equipped? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:11:18 -0400 (EDT) From: UPSglen To: Fordtrucks Subject: Fwd: unsubscribe Message-ID: --------------------- Forwarded message: From: BMiller326 Reply-to: FORDTRUCKS To: FORDTRUCKS Date: 97-04-18 20:32:11 EDT please remove me from your list.. ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:44:37 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: FE blocks Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:39 PM 4/19/97 EDT, you wrote: >Hello all > >Without disassembling, how can I tell whether an FE block is a 352, 390, or 360? >I have heard many different things from many different people. I now turn to the >list to enhance my confusion. > There's a number on the right side heads between the spark plugs. This can be decoded. Problem is that they may not be original heads - probably are as they last forever. Also, there may be an id tag under the coil. Since the block itself doesn't have casting number its easy to fool people but I doubt anyone is going to replace the heads to do this - unless of course it was to fool a concourse judge. >Also, does anyone know if more than one grille was offered on the 1967 F-100? I >think that some have a "Ranger" tag and some do not. Is this correct? > Not that I know of - at least not in 67. -Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions. Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:55:25 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: It can't be said enough, Thank you Ken! Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:41 AM 4/20/97 -0400, you wrote: >Fellow enthiusiasts....and Ken... > Having just signed on today it may sound strange to everyone that I would >want to comment already....but here goes... > To my new commrades... >I feel lucky to have found this list and have a great feel for the job Ken >has done already. From just the few letters I have read to this point I am >impressed. The integrity that Ken shows by not selling out is rare if not >downright exclusive. I am proud to have joined you all. Any decision that the >Senior membership decides on this issue of " payment " is welcomed by me. > I would like to add that if we did pay a membership...one thing we could >have is a member directory of sorts.....to display our individual expertise >areas and expierience. > Thanks to Ken .....and here's to us......Ford Truck friends....... > > John L. Miller > I just want to clarify one thing - I feel very strong about not *requiring* payment for the list. Voluntary payment would be up to the membership. There are alot of broke college students (and others) who really could save time and money by the advice they receive here - but some of them may not be able to afford to pay. How much of our membership would we lose? I'm willing to bet over half. Alot of people hang around for a month, ask a few questions, answer a few questions, lose interest and leave. But these people do contribute greatly to the content of the postings. I doubt they would have hung around at all if payment was required. Nick Finney comes to mind (unless he's rejoined - hard to tell with 475+ members), I haven't seen him around but he gave some incredibly good advice last month - had me going back to double check what I've learned on occasion. Also, how many times have you found a cool web page or other item on the internet and then you saw a price tag - were you disappointed? Just some thoughts..... -Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions. Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:59:50 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks-digest Subject: Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Command: kpayne -Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions. Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:05:51 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:06 AM 4/20/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hi everyone....I just found this list and thought I would just jump in. I >have been a Chevy lady for as long as I can remember but a couple of years >ago I went to buy a ElCamino and came home with a Ranchero instead!!! >After many hours in my garage I finally got it all restored. Sure looked >good for awhile till the door dings started so now its time for a new paint >job. Also put a bed liner in it and then Mr. Rust paid a visit so now I'm >trying to figure out how to save the box as original as I can. Any ideas??? > > >Linda > Try contacting some of the suppliers on the web page. Obsolete Ford and Caralonia Classics are very good. They can probably get you new corrugated steel to get welded/rivited in place of (or on top of) the old. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks/~supply.html -Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions. Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:06:51 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: '77 F-150 Ranger Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:44 AM 4/20/97 -0400, you wrote: >We purchased a 1977 F-150 Ranger about 2 mos ago and have wondered about >some of the other components on the truck. We know the engine is a 351M >and the tranny is a C6. Does anyone know how to identify the transfer >case and axles(ie Dana 44 etc.). Also, how was the truck originally >equipped? > Give me the complete numbers from the dash plate and door plate. I'll decode them for you. -Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions. Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:52:35 -0500 From: Eric Houkal To: "'fordtrucks'" Subject: slow boat from Ohio Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have seen several resoonses on the list from Ford employees (or at = any rate people who seem to have access to internal Ford info, some = production info, etc. The problem I am having requires info of that = nature. Bacfk in February I ordered a '97 e-150 cargo van to replace my = ailing 89. At that time I was told 4weeks, maybe 6 at most and my truck = problems would end. Well, it's been a whole lot longer than that and I = still don't have a new truck.First excuse was they were having problems = with Red paint, now apparently the truck exists but is in Ohio where the = racks were being installed.=20 The problem has become way more critical now because my old truck no = longer wants to go in reverse or overdrive and I've got a feeling the = other forward gears are about to follow the same path. As i pointed out to the dealer, I am out of business without a truck, = and if I am out of business I can't afford a new truck anyway. My = question is, first, is the dealer handing me a line? Have there been = production problems with Econoline cargo vans? I don't see how the seat = problem could matter since it was so short lived and my truck doesn't = have rear seats anyway. Secondly, is there any way I can get Ford to = expedite this deal? If the dealer is being straight with me the truck is = sitting in Ohio someplace complete and ready to go, but they don't want = to ship till the middle of May. Almost enough to make me re-think the = thousands(!) of dollars less I would have paid for a truck from brand D, = which I would already have made several payments on by now. Hope someone = can help. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 09:58:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "James A. Doty" To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: mileage Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Most likely its the wheel bearings. These can rob an enormous amount > of milage. Also, check to see if its running rich. > -Ken Payne Hi Ken: I'll check it out. I'm no expert with cars should I check the rear wheel bearings as well as the front? Ignorant question I know. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- James A. Doty Web Page Programmer E-Z.Net, Inc. Internet Services 209 N.E. 120th. Ave., Suite B Vancouver (360) 260-1122 Portland (503) 222-2202 Fax (360) 253-5485 KI7EL jamesd web2 Vancouver, WA "I think so Brain but Snowball for Windows?" Pinky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 09:55:00 -0700 From: sdelanty To: FORDTRUCKS Subject: Re: FE blocks Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Hello all > >Without disassembling, how can I tell whether an FE block is a 352, 390, or 360? >I have heard many different things from many different people. I now turn to the >list to enhance my confusion. In '67 it's probably a 360 or 390. You need: A breaker bar and socket to turn the motor with. A piece of brazing rod about a foot long. Calipers or a tape measure. A felt pen A friend to operate the breaker bar. Remove a spark plug that's easy to get at. Gently stick Your piece of brass rod down the hole until one end rests on top of the piston. Have Your friend roll over the motor (while You hold the rod straight) until the piston pushes the rod to the very top of it's travel (TDC). Mark the rod with the pen against some fixed referance point. The edge of the valve cover works nice. Now roll the motor to BDC while You hold the rod against the piston. Mark the rod against the valve cover again. Pull the rod out and measure the distance between the 2 marks. Congratulations, You've just measured approx crank stroke. 3.50" is a 360 or 352 3.78" is a 390 352= 4.000"B x 3.500"S 360= 4.050" x 3.500" 390= 4.050" x 3.780" It's impossible to tell any other way... They all look the same and blocks all say "352" I bought a 360 for my F100, but it turned out to be a 390... Don't You just hate that? (-: > >Also, does anyone know if more than one grille was offered on the 1967 F-100? I >think that some have a "Ranger" tag and some do not. Is this correct? Uh, dunno. Steve Delanty (sdelanty ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 10:10:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "James A. Doty" To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: mileage Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there: > > Do the valve covers look the same on both motors? If they do, it's a > 351W, if not, it may be a 351M, or even a 400, which would explain the > poor economy, another question is whats the gear ratio? Whats the tire > size? These are all factors in fuel economy.... > > Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach The tires are P235/15's. I don't know off the top of my head what the gear ratio is, but I can check into it. Also I forgot to mention that the engine is real whimpy. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- James A. Doty Web Page Programmer E-Z.Net, Inc. Internet Services 209 N.E. 120th. Ave., Suite B Vancouver (360) 260-1122 Portland (503) 222-2202 Fax (360) 253-5485 KI7EL jamesd web2 Vancouver, WA "I think so Brain but Snowball for Windows?" Pinky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 13:19:41 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: mileage Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:58 AM 4/20/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >> Most likely its the wheel bearings. These can rob an enormous amount >> of milage. Also, check to see if its running rich. >> -Ken Payne > >Hi Ken: > >I'll check it out. I'm no expert with cars should I check the >rear wheel bearings as well as the front? Ignorant question I >know. > Before you check them... has the milage always been this low? If so then its not the bearings. If its gotten worse over the years it may be. Start on a rear wheel, test it and then test a front wheel - this way you won't have to test all four. Take off the wheel, unbolt the brake hardware (4 bolts, very obvious how its done when the wheel is off). On the rear, the axle will slide out with virtually no resistance. Slide it out just enough to see the bear (round steel sleeve around the axle. The bearing should turn very smoothly and have no play. Slide the axle back in - you may need to turn it left and right for the teeth to catch. Don't worry - this isn't something you can mess up - it will go back in. On the front, you'll need to take the center cap off the spindle - don't forget to take off the brake hardware here - again this is a fairly straightforward procedure. Under the cap is a nut, take it off. You should be able to pull everything off the spindle and see the bearing on the spindle. Again, the bearing should turn smoothly and have no side to side play. -Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions. Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 13:35:22 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: slow boat from Ohio Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:52 AM 4/20/97 -0500, you wrote: > I have seen several resoonses on the list from Ford employees (or at any rate people who seem to have access to internal Ford info, some production info, etc. The problem I am having requires info of that nature. Bacfk in February I ordered a '97 e-150 cargo van to replace my ailing 89. At that time I was told 4weeks, maybe 6 at most and my truck problems would end. Well, it's been a whole lot longer than that and I still don't have a new truck.First excuse was they were having problems with Red paint, now apparently the truck exists but is in Ohio where the racks were being installed. >The problem has become way more critical now because my old truck no longer wants to go in reverse or overdrive and I've got a feeling the other forward gears are about to follow the same path. >As i pointed out to the dealer, I am out of business without a truck, and if I am out of business I can't afford a new truck anyway. My question is, first, is the dealer handing me a line? Have there been production problems with Econoline cargo vans? I don't see how the seat problem could matter since it was so short lived and my truck doesn't have rear seats anyway. Secondly, is there any way I can get Ford to expedite this deal? If the dealer is being straight with me the truck is sitting in Ohio someplace complete and ready to go, but they don't want to ship till the middle of May. Almost enough to make me re-think the thousands(!) of dollars less I would have paid for a truck from brand D, which I would already have made several payments on by now. Hope someone can help. >Eric > > No vehicle should take this long to get. It sounds like you're getting the run-around. I read in a car buying guide about how dealers really don't give a sh*t if you have your vehicle once you've signed on the dotted line. However, you have not taken pocession of the van. In most states the contract is not binding until you actually taken pocession of the vehicle. This is why you can sign a contract and then tell them "never mind" if you have not yet driven the car off the lot. Tell them you've called a lawyer. Someone here posted an email address to Ford Customer Assistance. I'll try to find it and post it with 24 hours. Call them too, complain LOUDLY and often but don't get rude. It'll be even better if you financed through FoMoCo because they don't want you skipping out on the loan. Also, there's a good chance the dealer isn't getting in more vehicles from that plant until May and they want to make a little extra by not having your van shipped seperately. I'm not talking from any solid legal or inside information - just my experience and the hints I've learned in the past. Good luck, and I'm sorry to here about this dealer. If only the dealers were as good as the vehicles. http -Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions. Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:24:58 -0700 From: Stuart Varner To: FORDTRUCKS Subject: Re: Napco parts Message-id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Don Grossman wrote: > > Stuart Varner wrote: > > > Are the rad. supports the same on F-100 and F-250? > > > > > Yes > Don, I think there is an obsolte company that makes these new. I am at work (yes it is Sunday, school teachers work about 20 plus hours of ot with no pay) When I come in tomorrow, I'll try to have it for you. That is if my noodle isn't playing tricks on me! > -- > Don Grossman > duckdon > > It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget....... > > 65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang) > 63 Ford F-250 4x4 > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks > For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:01:28 EDT From: silent.bob To: fordtrucks Subject: Re: Tires Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:32:21 EDT "RANDY ZEILINGER (USFMDSPR) USAET(UTC -04:00)" writes: >*** Resending note of 04/19/97 00:01 > > >Fellow REAL truck owners... > > I recently put a set of BFGoodrich Radial All-Terrain >31x10.50x15's >on my 1981 F-100. I have known MANY people who loved every one of the >tire's >qualities. My question is about the Mud-Terrains. Do they last as long > >as the All-Terrains? A buddy of mine got his to last 60k on his >lifted, over- >sized, gas guzzling Bronco. Is it safe to assume the Mud-Terrains >would >give the same tread-life? > > > Thank you, > > Marc. > > >Marc, I have the BFG Mud Terrains on my 6" lifter F-150 S/C. With >12,000 miles >there is little sign of wear. On my 1990 F-150 I went thru 3 sets of >these >wonderful tires. First set to over 60k and did not get to the wear >bars. >I put new rubber on (same BFG) and got over 50K. Only replaced them >at that >point to add a safety margine to a cross country trip. Sold the 50K >tires for >a good price in a garage sale. When I sold the 1990 (w/150K miles!) I >gave the >tires and wheels to my father-in-law. He put them on his Bronco last >year. >Drives the truck daily over 200 miles. Tires are still going strong. > > >The 1990 had 12.50 x 33 R15 and my 96 has 12.50 x 35. > >***I know Ken, change the gears, change the gears ;-) I'll do it*** > > >In conclusion (finally!) I wouldn't run anything but BFGoddrich >tires. >Mud Terrains for my truck. And properly sized BFGs for wife's car. > > >Randy Z. I put a set of BFG Defenders on my Ranger a week ago. Good tires, and they dress up the truck as well. Robert Inman Houston, Texas 95 Ranger Supercap 2.3L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 18:26:18 UT From: "Ryan Penner" To: fordtrucks Subject: Misfire Message-Id: Okay, I have a '91 F-150 that seems to misfire when I am driving it at any speed. My question is has anyone ever had this happen to them, if so how did you fix it? Here is some other info, the truck has 170,000 miles on it, and I have just replace the shortblock in it. (300 I-6) Along with a few other parts. If anyone has any help whatsoever PLEASE tell me! :) As you can see I am somewhat frustrated by this nonsence. Thanx. Ryan Penner 1991 Ford F150 4x2. Custom! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 13:37:22 -0500 (CDT).... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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