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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 01:38:13 -0400 (EDT) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
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Subject: fordtrucks Digest v97 n0048
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Volume 97 Number 0048 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

Re: Napco parts
> Re: Napco parts
> Re: Attn: Bob Moore
disk brakes
> Re:Hood ordament
unsubscribe
disk brakes
> Hood Ornament
Re: Attn: Bob Moore
Re: Hood Ornament
Re: Napco parts
> Re: Hood Ornament
Re: disk brakes
> RE: disk brakes
> disk brakes
> 56 F-100 with a 19?? 292 Y-8
Re: Napco parts
> Re: disk brakes
> Re: disk brakes
> Re: '47 - 2 ton question
Re: Warranty?
Re: Warranty?


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>From marko helix.net Thu Apr 17 16:43:57 1997 From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Napco parts
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>With the NP435, the front and rear seals are a concern. I haven't
>looked for any yet but just have a feeling they will be hard to locate.
>I also worry about the possibility of gears being broken and finding
>replacement gears. Have you had trouble with finding transfer case
>internal parts? Really other than that there isn't too much to the old
>4x4's....is there?

These are a piece of pie to find, shd be readily availalable. Bearings from Timken, seals from wherever. Replacement gears also still available. I had a broken synchro in mine and had no problem getting new one.

Basically, mechanical parts are easy to find for these trucks. The only hard things are trim and decent body parts.

>My truck has 84000 original miles and was loved and pampered by an
>elderly gent who took great care of it. When I tuned it up last year I
>pulled a BLACK AUTOLITE (original? maybe) distributor cap off. The
>paint is original and I know this truck probably never saw one hard days
>worth of work in it's life. It drives great, I've taken it on a 600
>mile trip journey with no problems. I just want to anticipate problems
>this summer when I start tearing it apart for resto. Thanks again
>

this is making me quite jealous.... any more like yours around, preferably 250?

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net
71 f250 4x4



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>From marko helix.net Thu Apr 17 16:45:51 1997 From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Napco parts
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Body parts are readily available through several obsolete companies.
>

Stu, I can find some things thru carpenter or obsolete ford parts but I'm really looking for a radiator support for a 71 F250 4x4. These are awfully hard to come by. Do you know anywhere that has them?

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

71 f250 4x4




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>From marko helix.net Thu Apr 17 16:49:38 1997 From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Attn: Bob Moore
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Bob,
>
>I apologize for posting this to the list but I've lost Bob's email
>address.

>
>So email us with an answer. Thanks Jared & Jeannine
>QNKY92A prodigy.com
>


If you guys know bob's last name and location, you can get his email address thru the yahoo people search.



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>From marko helix.net Thu Apr 17 17:10:31 1997 From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: disk brakes
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi all

I have a 71 f250 with drum brakes (manual). It stops pretty good but with some considerable foot power.

I am considering buying a 71 f250 (camper special) in AZ as a donor body for my truck, as it is getting slouchy. Several candidate trucks have power brakes. I wonder if they came with disk brakes in those years?

Could anybody describe the process of changing over from manu. drums to power front disks? Specifically, I am after how the disk brake assembly is hung on the front drive axle. Can I unbolt the drum backing plate, and using the same hub and steering knuckle, bolt on a caliper hanger?

Also, what disks will fit? I'd think the 2wd disks are not interchangeable with the 4wd, or are they?

I will be buying a new master cyl (shame cause I already bought one recently, but I won't buy used brake cyls if I can help it) and a new proportioning valve, as I am told I need these.

Finally, what about power brakes? Is this a big deal? What types of booster can I use?

Thanks for your help.


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

71 f250 4x4



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>From st0478 student-mail.jsu.edu Thu Apr 17 17:24:36 1997 From: RL
Subject: Re:Hood ordament
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Every body talking about their old trucks made me think of something. My grandfather owned many Fords since I can remember and probbly since he could drive. Anyway, when he passsd away we were poking around in the garge looking at stuff and my cousin was like I want this. I guess I never noticed it as it was hanging up but its a ordament that has a jet fighter which looks like it's from the 50's. It has a clear glass at the front which looks like a light is supposed to go in and it's rounded at the front. It jet is at the center and is quite large. My uncle said it was on one of grandads trucks. Anyone know what truck it came on? It appears to be in exellent shape and how much would it be worth. No I didn't let my cousin have as he would have lost it. He also has some Ford tools anyone know what there worth? Thanks
Ryan






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>From hopgood usit.net Thu Apr 17 17:25:31 1997 From: "Glenn T. Hopgood" Subject: unsubscribe
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

unsubscribe: hopgood usit.net



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>From jstrauss inetport.com Thu Apr 17 17:33:25 1997 From: John Strauss Subject: disk brakes
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>I am considering buying a 71 f250 (camper special) in AZ as a donor body for
>my truck, as it is getting slouchy. Several candidate trucks have power
>brakes. I wonder if they came with disk brakes in those years?
>
Yours is a 4x4 isn't it? Front disk brakes were not available, AFAIK, on 4x4 until after 1973. Actually 1973 brought disk brakes to 2WD but I think 4x4 didn't get them until 1975? Not sure about that part totally.

>Could anybody describe the process of changing over from manu. drums to
>power front disks? Specifically, I am after how the disk brake assembly is
>hung on the front drive axle. Can I unbolt the drum backing plate, and
>using the same hub and steering knuckle, bolt on a caliper hanger?
>
You will need the spindles for disk. Any F250 up thru 1979 should be able to interchange. You might try buying a front axle assembly with the same gearset as you have - this would be much simpler to install plus you get an assembly for parts or to sell. If you do not want to do this, you will need everything from the spindles out.

>Also, what disks will fit? I'd think the 2wd disks are not interchangeable
>with the 4wd, or are they?
>
No, you will need 4x4 disks/hubs if yours is 4x4.

>I will be buying a new master cyl (shame cause I already bought one
>recently, but I won't buy used brake cyls if I can help it) and a new
>proportioning valve, as I am told I need these.
>
Check the part numbers on the MC. Many times the same MC served power and non-power applications. You will need a proportioning valve to accomodate front disks.

>Finally, what about power brakes? Is this a big deal? What types of
>booster can I use?
>
This you should be able to get at the Hi-Lo (or whatever your local fast-food auto parts store is called). I think in 1968 or 69 Ford went to a firewall mounted booster, probably a Borg-Warner. Prior to that it mounted on the fender. Just ask for a booster for your year truck. You will need a new pedal rod (goes from pedal to MC - different for pb). If they tell you the booster is not serviced (i.e. you must have yours rebuilt) then that is the fender-mounted jobbie and I don't know my years on that part. Go up in year until you find a firewall mounted booster. You may have to drill out the holes but I'm betting it'll fit. Firewalls on Ford trucks 1967-1979 are basically the same.

>Thanks for your help.
>
Don't mention it. 8^)

John



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>From jstrauss inetport.com Thu Apr 17 17:45:40 1997 From: John Strauss Subject: Hood Ornament
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Every body talking about their old trucks made me think of something. My
>grandfather owned many Fords since I can remember and probbly since he
>could drive. Anyway, when he passsd away we were poking around in the
>garge looking at stuff and my cousin was like I want this. I guess I never
>noticed it as it was hanging up but its a ordament that has a jet fighter
>which looks like it's from the 50's. It has a clear glass at the front
>which looks like a light is supposed to go in and it's rounded at the
>front. It jet is at the center and is quite large. My uncle said it was on
>one of grandads trucks. Anyone know what truck it came on? It appears to
>be in exellent shape and how much would it be worth. No I didn't let my
>cousin have as he would have lost it. He also has some Ford tools anyone
>know what there worth? Thanks

I don't think this was on any Ford truck from the factory. Ford truck hood badges (I call them badges because they didn't "stand up" like an ornament) were either a gear with a lightning bolt thru it or "V8". The only stand up type ornaments would have been pre-1940 but jets weren't invented then.
I think this is probably an aftermarket item. It doesn't have "FoMoCo" printed on it anywhere, does it? No telling what it's worth but I'd bet not too much (unless I am totally wrong and it is a genuine Ford piece).
Ford tools are readily available at swap meets and don't bring that much either. I suppose it depends on what they are and condition. I am really not too much help on that as far as value. Sorry.

John


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>From JohnMcN micom.com Thu Apr 17 18:31:44 1997 From: John Macnamara Subject: Re: Attn: Bob Moore
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

marko maryniak wrote:
>
> >Bob,
> >
> >I apologize for posting this to the list but I've lost Bob's email
> >address.
>
> >
> >So email us with an answer. Thanks Jared & Jeannine
> >QNKY92A prodigy.com
> >
>
> If you guys know bob's last name and location, you can get his email address
> thru the yahoo people search.
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
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You can reach Bob Moore at: Bob vntg_mustang.com

John
67 Gt500
78 Ford F2504X4 Supercab


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>From st0478 student-mail.jsu.edu Thu Apr 17 19:16:25 1997 From: RL
Subject: Re: Hood Ornament
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I don't remeber but I"m suppossed to go up in June so I'll take a closer look. Thanks


> I don't think this was on any Ford truck from the factory. Ford truck hood
> badges (I call them badges because they didn't "stand up" like an ornament)
> were either a gear with a lightning bolt thru it or "V8". The only stand
> up type ornaments would have been pre-1940 but jets weren't invented then.
> I think this is probably an aftermarket item. It doesn't have "FoMoCo"
> printed on it anywhere, does it? No telling what it's worth but I'd bet
> not too much (unless I am totally wrong and it is a genuine Ford piece).
> Ford tools are readily available at swap meets and don't bring that much
> either. I suppose it depends on what they are and condition. I am really
> not too much help on that as far as value. Sorry.
>
> John
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
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>



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>From duckdon pacific.net Thu Apr 17 19:22:05 1997 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: Napco parts
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Stuart Varner wrote:
>
> Don Grossman wrote:
> >
> > Is there anyone out there interested in prefactory Fords? I have some
> > front axle parts from a 58 3/4ton. (long sad story... well not to
> > long) I have everything for a front axle except for the center section
> > Dana 44. It was cracked and the tubes were cut off. I have the inner
> > axles and all including the carrier and 4.56 ring and pinion. The axle
> > tube has NAPCO stamped into it with a serial number.
> >
> > If anyone can use these parts or has any interest please let me know
> > --
> > Don Grossman
> > duckdon pacific.net


Don It sounds like we have similar problems in life.....or else you you have figured it all out with the pre 4X4 craze F-100's. There are some parts which I am afraid will be difficult to locate for my 71 4x4 F100.
> Any help is appreciated. Do either of your trucks have a New Process
> 435 4 speed? I will be tackling one this summer and I can't find much
> about them. Thanks STU
Anyway, the 435 tranys should be easy to find. They were used up until 88 or 89 in trucks 2 and 4 wheel drive. For a 71 there should be no problem finding most of the parts you will need for a resto. The tie rod bar might be one of those parts you can't get. 59-76 should all work for your application. The rod with the replaceable ends are a little on the smallish side but being able to replace just a end instead of the complete bar is a plus. If your front end is a closed knuckle you should be able for find the seals for it. The six inch knuckle was used on lots of front ends (Ford, chevy, Dodge, Jeep and so on) A berring shim kit will be a little harder to find.

I just wanted to find a good home for the Napco part.

--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang) 63 Ford F-250 4x4


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>From duckdon pacific.net Thu Apr 17 19:34:49 1997 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: Hood Ornament
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> >Every body talking about their old trucks made me think of something. My....

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