Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 13:05:06 -0400 (EDT) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
From: digest-proc lofcom.com
Subject: fordtrucks Digest v97 n0040
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Volume 97 Number 0040 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

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Re: Ford Truck Web Page
Please delete from list
Sticker
Sticker
looking for parts
Canopy choices
61 electrical question
1966 Ford F100 with 230/6, want V-8. List lurker steps forward...
289 head #s
List Lurker V8 Swap
RE: looking for parts
looking for parts
Re: '61 Electrical Question
Unsubscribe Fordtrucks
Re: looking for parts
Re: looking for parts
F150/Bronco II -Reply
Comments Requested
F150/Bronco II -Reply - Reply
Moving to Phoenix...signing off the list.
Moving to Phoenix...signing off the list. -Reply
Parts supplier
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>From payne platinum.com Tue Apr 8 18:57:12 1997 From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) Subject: Do **not** post with HTML code To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

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Please do not email using HTML browser tags. This goes against standard practices as most email packages do not support HTML natively and most corporations aren't going to change their email packages any time soon. Post using plain text only.

I've posted concerning this before and since then it has occurred on several occasions. I shall now post this information in the FAQ and charter. Just as continued posting of list server commands to the email list will lock someone out from the list, so will continued postings of HTML. More than one person is guilty of this so I'm not singling out anyone.

In addition, try to post the message in the body of the message instead of as an attachment.

HINTS: If you are posting email using Netscape or another browser and you can have different sized fonts, underlining, bold characters, etc. in your email then you are using HTML. Even if you do not use these attributes there is a good chance you are using HTML. Check you browser email settings. As a last resort, send an email to yourself, then save the incoming email to a disk file. Edit the email using Notepad (Win 3.1, 95 and NT, Mac users use a plain vanilla text editor). If you see anything like , , , etc, then you are sending email using HTML.

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>From kpayne mindspring.com Tue Apr 8 19:50:20 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Ford Truck Web Page
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 08:43 AM 4/8/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Kenneth,
>First of all, congratulations on a well laid out and designed page.
>Secondly, a question. I am about to change vehicles and am contemplating
>a F150. Do you know of anyone else in the UK who has one, or have you
>heard of any dealers in F150s over here? I'd like to get a feel for what
>year/condition is available for what cash! I've tried searching the net
>for info on US vehicles in the UK without much success.
>Any help is appreciated. I've subscribed to the digest message page, so
>if you want to reply through that then that's fine.
>
>Many thanks,
>

Since you said it was okay to reply via the list I've sent a copy of your message to it (above). I think someone on the list should have some information as we have over 400 members. If not, there is one link on the supplier page in the UK. I do not know anything about the supplier, only that they can supply parts for any year Ford truck and they also sell new trucks. I wish I could be of further assistance...

If any of you guys/gals on the list can help it would be great. I think it would be a very good thing if we could get this list serving owners across the Atlantic.

Good luck,

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks



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>From palenm cadvision.com Tue Apr 8 21:19:24 1997 From: Mark Palen Subject: Please delete from list
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Please delete me from your email list. Tks!



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>From suggies juno.com Tue Apr 8 22:59:54 1997 Subject: Sticker
From: suggies juno.com (David M Sugar)
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

On Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:32:19 -0500 (EST) NameFrame aol.com writes:
>We have all seen the "Piss on Ford sticker." Now I have created the
>"Shit on
>Chevy" sticker. If you would like to obtain a copy of this sticker,
>send me
>E-mail at NameFrame AOL.com. Include "sticker" as the subject.
>
>____________________________________________________________________
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>To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
>For help send a message with "HELP" in the body
>to:list-request lofcom.com
>Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
>
>

Sure I would like a copy of the sticker.

address is:
David Sugar
2909 Old Court Road
Baltimore, MD 21208


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>From suggies juno.com Tue Apr 8 23:00:14 1997 Subject: Sticker
From: suggies juno.com (David M Sugar)
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

On Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:32:19 -0500 (EST) NameFrame aol.com writes:
>We have all seen the "Piss on Ford sticker." Now I have created the
>"Shit on
>Chevy" sticker. If you would like to obtain a copy of this sticker,
>send me
>E-mail at NameFrame AOL.com. Include "sticker" as the subject.
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
>To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
>For help send a message with "HELP" in the body
>to:list-request lofcom.com
>Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
>
>

Sure I would like a copy of the sticker.

address is:
David Sugar
2909 Old Court Road
Baltimore, MD 21208


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>From duckdon pacific.net Tue Apr 8 23:06:10 1997 From: Don Grossman Subject: looking for parts
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hey there

I'm looking for a special set of line nuts for the brake system. They are the ones that attach the brake line to the master cylinder on a 77-79 3/4 ton 4x4 with the twin piston calipers. I am unable to find an adapter that works do to the thread pitch.. My next stop is a Ford dealer ( for 20 year old parts.. ya right) and then the scrap yards.

If anyone has any good sources let me know

TIA
--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang) 63 Ford F-250 4x4


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>From Turtle ieway.com Tue Apr 8 23:16:02 1997 From: "Jim Tourtillotte" Subject: Canopy choices
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

You get what you pay for. The Brahma's are a lot better than they used to be, but they still crack after prolonged exposure to sunlight and vibration (not that you would ever park outside or go on dirt roads). I've worked for a second hand canopy shop for three years now, and I'd recommend the Glasstite. It's expensive, but like I said, you get what you pay for. If you decide to buy a used one, make sure it has a cutout for your third brake light. Also, in many states, a third brake light is required on 96 and newer.



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>From rmeier connect.net Tue Apr 8 23:30:16 1997 From: rmeier connect.net (Roger Meier)
Subject: 61 electrical question
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Eric writes:
>truck circuitry with no key in the ignittion. I observed a 0 to
>300mA current draw cycling about 1Hz....(In other words, the needle
>would swing between 0 and 300mA once every second, constantly and
>rythmically).
>
Eric,
The in dash regulator for the guages has a frequency close to that, and about that same current draw. It is not supposed to be on when the ignition switch is off, however if the ignition switch has been miswired or is kaput it may be powered up even when the switch is off. Look inside and see if the guages are active when the switch is off. Look at the fuel guage, the others will read at the bottom when the engine is off anyway.
Hope you find it, dead batts are the pits.
Roger Meier



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>From sdelanty sonoma.net Tue Apr 8 23:54:39 1997 From: sdelanty sonoma.net
Subject: 1966 Ford F100 with 230/6, want V-8. List lurker steps forward...
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

The question is asked...

>I want to replace the 230 Straight Six with a V-8. I want an engine that will
>drop in place and bolt up to the Warner T-18 Four Speed Transmission that is
>in the truck now. Secondly, there is a shaft, for the clutch, that runs
>between the Frame Rail and the Engine Block. Does any one have any
>suggestions as to what year, and size of Engine I could use.

O.K. I've been reading this list for a couple weeks, this looks like a good time for an intro...

I'm Steve and I have a '71 F100 stepside with a FE390 and T18 tranny.

I'm not familiar with a 230cid 6 cylinder? Do You mean 240cid?
If You have a 240/6 the following may be of interest. If You have a 230 then I dunno...

When I got my truck it had a 240/6 in it. The motor was toasted and not rebuildable, so I had to go motor hunting.
I had intended to put a 300/6 in place of my dead 240, but I coudn't find a decent one in my area for a reasonable price.
What I did find was a FE360 from a '73 F250. I got to hear it run, and it ran O.K., but had an ominous (and odd) knock at low rpm and burned some oil.
The guy said He was gonna swap in a better motor from a wrecked truck He had and He wanted $75 for this one. I agreed and came back in the evening with a small trailer.
He had the motor out of the truck and hanging from the hoist by then and We did the deal. It turned out He had a bunch of F250 parts and for $25 more I bought an alternator, flywheel for the 360 (the 360 had been equipped with a C6 so just had a flexplate), and *the correct bellhousing to bolt it all up to a T-18!*
I was ecstatic hauling my new toys home... (-:

When I got it all home and stripped it all down, it turned out that it had never been apart and cylinder bores and crank where still standard.
The ominous knock was not a rod but was the timing chain, so loose it was slapping the inside of the timing cover at low rpm.!
Oh yeah, It also turned out not to be a FE360, but a FE390!
Nice core motor for $75!! I was dirt poor at the time and needed a truck bad so this was good.
After much measuring, I honed the cyls, put fresh rings on old pistons, had crank turned .010", replaced bearings, timing gears/chain, cam/lifters, oil pump, had the heads done up nice with hardened exhaust seats, new guides, new valves/retainers/keepers, and 280 lb springs.
A little Ford blue paint and it's ready to go in...

Installation was incredibly and enexpectedly easy.

One of the cool things about the T-18 is that it was apparently used with lots of different motors. The bell housing unbolts and it seems all the popular patterns are available. Ford used many motors in these trucks through the Years including: 240/6, 300/6, 302, 351, FE352, FE360, FE390, 400, 460, asst diesels, and God knows what else. Most were probably available with a T-18.

All my stuff bolted right up. It was a breeze.
Everything was available stock from my local parts store. Clutch, pressure plate, pilot bushing, all stock 390 stuff. The clutch pivot screws into the block on the 240, but the 390 had no place to screw it into. I found a nut that fit the pivot threads, welded the nut to a piece of 1-1/2" x 1-1/2" angle iron, drilled a hole and used one of the bellhousing bolts to attach it in the correct place. I'm sure the correct part is available stock, but the welder was closer than the wrecking yard...

The stock 240 motor mounts sit on stamped steel supports that bolt to the frame.
On my '71 there was a second set of holes in the frame, about 2-1/2" back from the
origional location. Move the supports back to these holes and they bolt right up to the FE352/360/390 mounts. THANK YOU FORD!

Once the motor is in, a few other details:

The radiator outlets on the V-8 is different than the 6. You'll need to get the correct V-8 radiator. The one for the FE390 bolted right up, the mounting holes were there in the correct location already, but I had to trim back about 3" of sheet metal that obviously would have been stamped out at the factory for V-8.
Rad hoses are stock F100 w/390 stuff.

The accelerator pedal assy was different for 6 cyl or V-8. the arm is a different length in the engine compartment. wrecking yard stuff.

I had to lengthen a couple of wires to make them reach for the 390. Oil pressure and water temp I think. Not a problem.

It was an outrageuosly easy swap, since Ford already had done it.
Your '66 was offered with FE power as well so it should be a snap.

>Supposedly, I should be able to go down to Checker Auto Parts and get a 352
>Engine for my truck for about $850. Any body have anything to say about the
>"good ol' 352 Motor", please send a reply. Thanks.

Yeah, I'd have to say that the FE352 is the least desirable FE to put in it.
It shares the same basic block design (and weight) as FE360, FE390, FE427 but it's only 352cid )-:
A 360 or 390 bolts in anywhere a 352 does and were more plentiful and much more powerful so why not?
You won't get any better gas mileage with 352 than 390. They all look the same from the outside, and all have "352" cast onto the front of the block.
Put a 390 in and tell people it's a 352 if You want. (-;

My 390 has mild cam, adjustable rockers, 600cfm carterAFB carb on stock 4-bbl manifold, I spent a few hours cleaning up the heads (mostly those awful exhaust ports) with a die grinder, stock '76 duraspark magnetic pickup distributor with
modified vacuum advance and big cap adaptor/8mm wires, MSD-6A, and 2-1/2" dual exhaust with crossover and dynomax muffs. Since I retained the stock pistons, it is only 8:1 comp.
This is a very mild FE390 motor, but it pulls my 4200lb truck around quite nicely.
It makes awesome torque right up to 5000rpm, pulls stumps at 1200rpm, and is smooth as silk and very responsive.
It's stone reliable.
It burns the cheapest 87 octane gas I can find without complaint at 12 degrees initial ign advance.
It's only a work truck, but it'll show sbc ch*vy trucks it's tailpipes every time. I LOVE MY FE390!

I highly recommend this swap...

Happy motoring,


Steve Delanty (sdelanty sonoma.net)



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>From Doug_Neely bc.sympatico.ca Wed Apr 9 00:14:21 1997 From: Doug Neely Subject: 289 head #s
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Garry,
One head is 4M28, the other is 5A8, when did they change the shape of the water passages,this set has the old style crescent shaped ones.
Thanks for the info
Cheers,
Doug


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>From Doug_Neely bc.sympatico.ca Wed Apr 9 01:33:24 1997 From: Doug Neely Subject: List Lurker V8 Swap
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

On the V8 swap ,did you have to change the input shaft on the trans or are they a standard size for all the engines? The reason for asking is I just pulled my friends 289 out and it looks like a major rebuild is in order (they wear out hauling loaded horse trailers around),so he's considering a step up to an FE, if it's just a bellhousing,clutch, and mounts it may be a better option.
Cheers,
Doug


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>From rcollins micron.net Wed Apr 9 02:38:15 1997 From: Randy Collins Subject: RE: looking for parts
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

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Don,

Before you go to Ford, try NAPA auto parts. They have lots of hard to = find parts. If they don't have them I can probably locate a set. I = have a couple of the old Fords around here. Both of my trucks have = trailer brakes plumbed into the master cylinders but I believe that one = of the fittings that goes into the proportioning valve has the same = thread pitch. =20

Randy Collins
rcollins micron.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Grossman [SMTP:duckdon pacific.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 1997 8:06 PM
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: looking for parts

Hey there

I'm looking for a special set of line nuts for the brake system. They are the ones that attach the brake line to the master cylinder on a 77-79 3/4 ton 4x4 with the twin piston calipers. I am unable to find an adapter that works do to the thread pitch.. My next stop is a Ford dealer ( for 20 year old parts.. ya right) and then the scrap yards. =20

If anyone has any good sources let me know

TIA
--=20
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang) 63 Ford F-250 4x4


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>From hatherill coinet.com Wed Apr 9 04:42:51 1997 From: hatherill
Subject: Re: '61 Electrical Question
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

TO FIND THE PROBLEM I WOULD RECONNECT THE METER AND THEN DISCONNECT THE SUSPECTED PARTS ONE AT A TIME UNTILL THE METER READS "0" I HAVE NEVER SEAN A RITHMIC PULSE FROM A SHORT BUT IF THE BATTERY GOES DEAD SOMETHING IS ON. NEW RIGS HAVE A SMALL DRAIN ALL THE TIME,OR A DIGITAL RADIO WILL USE SMALL AMOUNTS ALSO GO LUCK GARY


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>From kevin.krawczuk prudential.com Wed Apr 9 08:28:37 1997 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: PRUDENTIAL
From: "Kevin Krawczuk" Subject: Unsubscribe Fordtrucks
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Please unsubscribe me from the fordtrucks list




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>From JohnMcN micom.com Wed Apr 9 08:57:34 1997 From: John Macnamara Subject: Re: looking for parts
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Don Grossman wrote:
>
> Hey there
>
> I'm looking for a special set of line nuts for the brake system. They
> are the ones that attach the brake line to the master cylinder on a
> 77-79 3/4 ton 4x4 with the twin piston calipers. I am unable to find an
> adapter that works do to the thread pitch.. My next stop is a Ford
> dealer ( for 20 year old parts.. ya right) and then the scrap yards.
>
> If anyone has any good sources let me know
>
> TIA
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
>
> It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......
>
> 65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
> 63 Ford F-250 4x4
>
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Tia: You could call Classic tube in NY. they made some stainless brake lines for my 78 F250. So I know they have the hardware. You might even want to replace the lines while you're at it. They have the correct factory bend, etc.

Good Luck

John MacNamara
78 F250 4X4


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>From JohnMcN micom.com Wed Apr 9 08:58:16 1997 From: John Macnamara Subject: Re: looking for parts
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Don Grossman wrote:
>
> Hey there
>
> I'm looking for a special set of line nuts for the brake system. They
> are the ones that attach the brake line to the master cylinder on a
> 77-79 3/4 ton 4x4 with the twin piston calipers. I am unable to find an
> adapter that works do to the thread pitch.. My next stop is a Ford
> dealer ( for 20 year old parts.. ya right) and then the scrap yards.
>
> If anyone has any good sources let me know
>
> TIA
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
>
> It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......
>
> 65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
> 63 Ford F-250 4x4
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com Don: Sorry forgot to give you the phone number: 800 882 3711.

John


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>From payne platinum.com Wed Apr 9 10:04:37 1997 From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) Subject: F150/Bronco II -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> "Jason C Wodack" 04/07/97 10:22am >>>
>Hey all,
>I've been having this really strange vision of replacing the drine
>train on my Bronco II with that of an f150. I was wondering if any
>of you ever had this idea before or had ever done something like it?
>Were there any major problems? If I wanted would I also have to
>replace the tranny(altogether bad idea since I had to ask what a
>bellhousing was)? I know I'd have to get a shortened drive shaft,
>does anyone know where I can get one without having it custom made?
>also I don't rember if the wheels from a Bronco II would fit on a
>F150 spindle, their 15 inch rims I'm not entirely sure about the
>width but they originally had P205=R15 tires on them.
>
>Any help on this at all would be apreciated.

>Jason Wodack

Specifically what are you looking for? Do you want to replace just the rear end? Or the engine? Is is more power you're after or a stronger rear axle? There's a ton of options available to you, some cheap, some not. Oh, the 15 inch 5 bolt tires should go right onto an F150 rear end. I'm running standard Ford 15 inch, 10 inch wide rims on my 67 F100 (they came off a F100 4x4) and they bolt onto most any full size five bolt Ford product.

Custom drive shafts really aren't that big of a deal. There are shops that will shorten you existing drive shaft pretty inexpensively.




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>From glenn.martini airmail.net Wed Apr 9 11:12:16 1997 From: Glenn Martini Subject: Comments Requested
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi all,

I'm considering purchasing (ordering most likely) a '97 or '98 Ford F-150. Any suggestions or comments about the best configuration (cab, wheelbase, bed, 4x2, towing packages, etc.) for the truck?

I already own a new Expedition 4x4 with the 5.4l ... and I am impressed enough with the overall quality and engineering to buy another truck for hauling house-remodeling stuff, and with any luck, classic Mustang parts.

Thanks!

Glenn

PS - if anyone had good leads on the best Ford Truck dealer in the Dallas area, I'd appreciate reading their comments.


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>From PACEG1 WPGATE.UOFS.EDU Wed Apr 9 11:18:38 1997 From: Glen Pace Subject: F150/Bronco II -Reply - Reply
X-VMS-To: IN%"FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Be carefull on the wheels I don't think the bronco II and the F-150 use the same wheel pattern.
I picked up a set of 1980 F-150 4x4 wheels for a friend with a 1990 4x4 ranger that had factory 15" wheels and the F-150 rims did not line up.
I don't have either of these trucks so please correct me if I am wrong.
Glen

96 F-350 4x4
77 F-250 4x4



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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Wed Apr 9 11:28:34 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Moving to Phoenix...signing off the list.
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi All,

I'm moving to Phoenix so I'll have to sign off the list. Thanks to Ken for running it. I've enjoyed learning from you guys.

Best Regards,
Jon and the Big Red One
in Houston

P.S. Ken- Good luck with your new kid!


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>From payne platinum.com Wed Apr 9 11:58:39 1997 From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) Subject: Moving to Phoenix...signing off the list. -Reply To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> 04/09/97 10:28am >>>
>Hi All,

>I'm moving to Phoenix so I'll have to sign off the list. Thanks to Ken
>for running it. I've enjoyed learning from you guys.

It was good to have you participate. Hopefully we'll seen you soon when you get a new email address.

>Best Regards,
>Jon and the Big Red One
>in Houston

>P.S. Ken- Good luck with your new kid!

Thanks!



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>From kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us Wed Apr 9 12:00:14 1997 From: kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us
Subject: Parts supplier
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hello fellow trucksters,

First off, thanx for all the responses to my '61 F100 electrical question - the dreaded 1 Hz, 300mA battery drain. I'm hoping to try tinkering with it tonight and tomorrow and I'll let the list know what I find. To those of you who asked....there is no dash clock, in fact the only clock in the truck is the watch in my pocket!!!
;-{) I consider myself lucky that this ole truck has a heater let alone a fancy-pants dash clock!!! ;-{D

My question: A few weeks ago someone (sorry I forgot who) posted a name and phone number of Dan Herman who specializes in '61-'67 F100s. I jotted the number down, and noticed that it's in my area code! (I'm really not _that_ slow....our area code just changed this past month). Anyways, my question is - has anyone actually talked to this fellow? I have been calling the number for the past few weeks and no one answers this phone and there's no answering machine, either.

Eric

=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
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>From usfmdspr ibmmail.com Wed Apr 9 12:50:23 1997 From: "RANDY ZEILINGER (RZEILING) USAET(UTC -04:00)" Subject: Comments Requested
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Glenn, If it wasn't for the fact that my F-150 is new (>12kmiles) I would most likely order a 1997 F-250 4x4 Supercab with the 6' box. I would get the trailer tow package and load leveling suspension. I believe the 3.73 axle is standard but I'd opt for the limited slip. The 5.4 l engine is a must.
Interior would have the captains chairs and the premimum sound package. Get the remote lock system and the auto light package for convience.
Unless you really like leather, I would stick with an XLT trim.
This is just my humble opinion but its based on driving this truck from VA to Mich and back and then to New York state and thru the maountains of PA.

Fully loaded with wife, kids, dogs and trailer. mileage was better than 18 mpg and the ride was superb.

So, FWIW that is what I think. I should have waited for the F-250.
Randy Z P.S. Black trucks go faster, its a trade secret ;-)

~~~~~~NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!~~~~~~ (313) 39-02922 FAX (313) 845-5383 Pager (810) 890-3665 FoMoCo Vehicle Operations Maufacturing Engineer---Powertrain
1999 F-150, F-250, SVE, EXPEDITION and NAVIGATOR trucks.
*** Forwarding note from I2328401--IBMMAIL 04/09/97 11:32 *** Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:12:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Glenn Martini Subject: Comments Requested To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi all,

I'm considering purchasing (ordering most likely) a '97 or '98 Ford F-150. Any suggestions or comments about the best configuration (cab, wheelbase, bed, 4x2, towing packages, etc.) for the truck?

I already own a new Expedition 4x4 with the 5.4l ... and I am impressed enough with the overall quality and engineering to buy another truck for hauling house-remodeling stuff, and with any luck, classic Mustang parts.....


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