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Volume 97 Number 0039 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

RE: 351M vs. 351W
RE: 351M vs. 351W
RE: 351M vs. 351W
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RE: 351M vs. 351W
RE: 351M vs. 351W
RE: 351M vs. 351W
Re: 351M vs. 351W=20
RE: 351M vs. 351W
Re: 351M vs. 351W
F-150 BRAKE PROBLEMS
Re: 351M vs. 351W
Re: New Process Transmissions
Re: F-150 BRAKE PROBLEMS
Re: Concerns with F350 Brakes - Reply
Re: F-150 BRAKE PROBLEMS
Re: Quicker 97-Ranger XLT (2.3L) -Reply
Delete me from the list
SAFETY WARNING
Re: SAFETY WARNING
very high miles 302 v8
289 revisited
RE: SAFETY WARNING
SAFETY WARNING
64 F100 SWB
Re: SAFETY WARNING
RE: 289 revisited
1966 Ford F100 with a 230 CI Straight Six, I want to replace this

'61 Electrical Question
Re: '61 Electrical Question
Re: Powerstroke Water in Fuel light
Re: 1966 Ford F100 with a 230 CI Straight Six, I want to replace this
Re: Steering wheel cover
RE: F-150 BRAKE PROBLEMS
Re: 1966 Ford F-100 - Adding Power Steering
Re: '61 Electrical Question


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>From jks2x faraday.clas.virginia.edu Mon Apr 7 15:23:35 1997 From: "Jason K. Schechner" Subject: RE: 351M vs. 351W
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

My two 79 Broncos have a 351M and a 400 in them and I would agree that, stock, the 351M is a dog of a motor. It was one of the early smog motors and uses a lot of energy trying to keep itself emissions-clean. However, the 351M and the 400 share almost everything, except the crankshaft. If you rebuild the 351M with a 400 crankshaft you'll have an instant 400, and take it from me the 400 is a much better performer than the 351M.
They get about the same mileage, but the 400 has a lot more umph.
The 351M is actually a variant of the 351C, though greatly detuned. The 351C, 351M and 400 (often called the 400M) all share the bigblock transmission bell-housing pattern, so you can pull that 351M and bolt a 460 right up to that C6. (both of my trucks have C6's, btw) In fact, that's what I plan to do with my 351M-powered truck. I'm going to rebuild the 400 (it burns a lot of oil) and replace the 351M with a 460, or so I hope. Where'd I put that lottery ticket again? :-)
Fun fact - the 400 is one of the only "square" motors out there: bore and stroke are both exactly 4"

-Jason

--
Jason K. Schechner
Unix Sysadmin - Oracle Corp
devellopers who never crash anything [computers] are proving
they have no creativity. -[Brecht]


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>From mcat epix.net Mon Apr 7 16:41:09 1997 From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: 351M vs. 351W
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

--- On Mon, 7 Apr 1997 15:23:35 -0400 (EDT) "Jason K. Schechner" wrote:

> My two 79 Broncos have a 351M and a 400 in them and I would
>agree that, stock, the 351M is a dog of a motor. It was one of
>the early smog motors and uses a lot of energy trying to keep
>itself emissions-clean. However, the 351M and the 400 share
>almost everything, except the crankshaft. If you rebuild the
>351M with a 400 crankshaft you'll have an instant 400, and take
>it from me the 400 is a much better performer than the 351M.
>They get about the same mileage, but the 400 has a lot more umph.
>The 351M is actually a variant of the 351C, though greatly
>detuned. The 351C, 351M and 400 (often called the 400M) all
>share the bigblock transmission bell-housing pattern, so you can
>pull that 351M and bolt a 460 right up to that C6. (both of my
>trucks have C6's, btw) In fact, that's what I plan to do with my
>351M-powered truck. I'm going to rebuild the 400 (it burns a lot
>of oil) and replace the 351M with a 460, or so I hope. Where'd I put
>that lottery ticket again? :-)
> Fun fact - the 400 is one of the only "square" motors out
>there: bore and stroke are both exactly 4"
>
>-Jason
>
>--
>Jason K. Schechner
>Unix Sysadmin - Oracle Corp
> devellopers who never crash anything [computers] are proving
> they have no creativity. -[Brecht]
>
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 4/7/97 Time: 3:44:22 PM

427 Fe powered F-100 Wild by design
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>From mcat epix.net Mon Apr 7 16:41:47 1997 From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: 351M vs. 351W
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

--- On Mon, 7 Apr 1997 15:23:35 -0400 (EDT) "Jason K. Schechner" wrote:

> My two 79 Broncos have a 351M and a 400 in them and I would
>agree that, stock, the 351M is a dog of a motor. It was one of
>the early smog motors and uses a lot of energy trying to keep
>itself emissions-clean. However, the 351M and the 400 share
>almost everything, except the crankshaft. If you rebuild the
>351M with a 400 crankshaft you'll have an instant 400, and take
>it from me the 400 is a much better performer than the 351M.
>They get about the same mileage, but the 400 has a lot more umph.
>The 351M is actually a variant of the 351C, though greatly
>detuned. The 351C, 351M and 400 (often called the 400M) all
>share the bigblock transmission bell-housing pattern, so you can
>pull that 351M and bolt a 460 right up to that C6. (both of my
>trucks have C6's, btw) In fact, that's what I plan to do with my
>351M-powered truck. I'm going to rebuild the 400 (it burns a lot
>of oil) and replace the 351M with a 460, or so I hope. Where'd I put
>that lottery ticket again? :-)
> Fun fact - the 400 is one of the only "square" motors out
>there: bore and stroke are both exactly 4"
>
>-Jason
>
>--
>Jason K. Schechner
>Unix Sysadmin - Oracle Corp
> devellopers who never crash anything [computers] are proving
> they have no creativity. -[Brecht]
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
>To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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>Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
>
>

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 4/7/97 Time: 3:45:15 PM

427 Fe powered F-100 Wild by design
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>From kevin.bradley sympatico.ca Mon Apr 7 16:46:48 1997 From: Kevin Bradley Subject: delete
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Delete me from the list, its information I don't want Thank you


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>From mcat epix.net Mon Apr 7 17:02:20 1997 From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: 351M vs. 351W
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Jason
About the only thing that interchanges between 351C &351M-400 are the heads. The blocks look the same, but the deck hight is taller on the "M" motors. The bellhousings are completely different. The "C" motor uses the smallblk style and the"M" motor uses the 429-460 bellhousing style.
Camshafts will interchange between "M" and"C"s allso. If you want a power house, bore the 400 .040 over, cam the motor install aftermarket 4bbl and manifold freeflow exhaust, and pass everything but a gas station. I did in my shop truck and Ilike it. Realy woke it up for towing.This is in a82 F250.
Garry
--- On Mon, 7 Apr 1997 15:23:35 -0400 (EDT) "Jason K. Schechner" wrote:

> My two 79 Broncos have a 351M and a 400 in them and I would
>agree that, stock, the 351M is a dog of a motor. It was one of
>the early smog motors and uses a lot of energy trying to keep
>itself emissions-clean. However, the 351M and the 400 share
>almost everything, except the crankshaft. If you rebuild the
>351M with a 400 crankshaft you'll have an instant 400, and take
>it from me the 400 is a much better performer than the 351M.
>They get about the same mileage, but the 400 has a lot more umph.
>The 351M is actually a variant of the 351C, though greatly
>detuned. The 351C, 351M and 400 (often called the 400M) all
>share the bigblock transmission bell-housing pattern, so you can
>pull that 351M and bolt a 460 right up to that C6. (both of my
>trucks have C6's, btw) In fact, that's what I plan to do with my
>351M-powered truck. I'm going to rebuild the 400 (it burns a lot
>of oil) and replace the 351M with a 460, or so I hope. Where'd I put
>that lottery ticket again? :-)
> Fun fact - the 400 is one of the only "square" motors out
>there: bore and stroke are both exactly 4"
>
>-Jason
>
>--
>Jason K. Schechner
>Unix Sysadmin - Oracle Corp
> devellopers who never crash anything [computers] are proving
> they have no creativity. -[Brecht]
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
>To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
>For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
>Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
>
>

-----------------End of Original Message-----------------


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 4/7/97 Time: 3:45:47 PM

427 Fe powered F-100 Wild by design
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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>From mcat epix.net Mon Apr 7 17:23:02 1997 From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: 351M vs. 351W
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Apologies if this is a repeat, it looked like the first message I sent didn't go through correctly.

Jason

About the only thing that interchanges between 351C &351M-400 are the heads. The blocks look the same, but the deck hight is taller on the "M" motors. The bellhousings are completely different. The "C" motor uses the smallblk style and the"M" motor uses the 429-460 bellhousing style.
Camshafts will interchange between "M" and"C"s allso. If you want a power house, bore the 400 .040 over, cam the motor install aftermarket 4bbl and manifold freeflow exhaust, and pass everything but a gas station. I did in

my shop truck and Ilike it. Realy woke it up for towing.This is in a82 F250.

Garry
--- On Mon, 7 Apr 1997 15:23:35 -0400 (EDT) "Jason K. Schechner" wrote:

> My two 79 Broncos have a 351M and a 400 in them and I would
>agree that, stock, the 351M is a dog of a motor. It was one of
>the early smog motors and uses a lot of energy trying to keep
>itself emissions-clean. However, the 351M and the 400 share
>almost everything, except the crankshaft. If you rebuild the
>351M with a 400 crankshaft you'll have an instant 400, and take
>it from me the 400 is a much better performer than the 351M.
>They get about the same mileage, but the 400 has a lot more umph.
>The 351M is actually a variant of the 351C, though greatly
>detuned. The 351C, 351M and 400 (often called the 400M) all
>share the bigblock transmission bell-housing pattern, so you can
>pull that 351M and bolt a 460 right up to that C6. (both of my
>trucks have C6's, btw) In fact, that's what I plan to do with my
>351M-powered truck. I'm going to rebuild the 400 (it burns a lot
>of oil) and replace the 351M with a 460, or so I hope. Where'd I put
>that lottery ticket again? :-)
> Fun fact - the 400 is one of the only "square" motors out
>there: bore and stroke are both exactly 4"
>
>-Jason
>
>--
>Jason K. Schechner
>Unix Sysadmin - Oracle Corp
> devellopers who never crash anything [computers] are proving
> they have no creativity. -[Brecht]
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
>To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks ....

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