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Volume 97 Number 0029 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

Re: 71 f250 kingpins
Re: Garage work?
Re: Problems in early 90's F250?
Re: Re: Headers for '77 F100
Electric window question.
Motor Oil
Electric window question.
Electric window question.
Re: A/C musty smell (Robert)
Re: Re: Re: Headers for '77 F100
Fuel Tank switch
Re: Chuck's diesel inquiry.
Electric Window Question Possibility
Re: diesel truck info...
Re: diesel truck info...
Re: Bummed about lugs; and relief
Re: Summit Headers
Electric Window Question Possibility
Electric Window Question Possibility
Re: '88 Ford Bronco II
Re: Problems in early 90's F250?
Re: Garage work?
Re: Motor Oil
Re: Bummed about lugs; and relief


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>From nfinney earthlink.net Mon Mar 24 01:35:43 1997 From: Nick Finney Subject: Re: 71 f250 kingpins
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>
> My manual says something about shims, and about bearing preload. Here's
> where I'd like some explanation:
>
> "Install the old shims for a trial build-up. Torque the bearing cap
> bolts or stud nuts to 25 ft. lbs. Check the steering knuckle bearing
> preload. It should be 60-120 in. lbs. Adjust the shim thickness at the
> bearing caps, as required, to obtain the proper pre-load."
>
> I have both a ft lb and an in lb torque wrench, so doing the actual job
> isn't a problem. I want to know if preload means the energy it takes to
> turn the steering knuckle at the cap by turning with an in-lb torque wrench.
> I think it does. Would anybody tell me if using thicker shims means less
> preload, or more?
>

If you use a smooth turning motion on the inch pound T/W it should register approx 60 - 120 inch pounds of effort to turn the torque wrench, you you almost the same procedure to determine the bearing preload on a pinion gear.

More shims may or may not mean more preload - sorry but I just have a 4X2 (for now).

If you are placing shims behind the bearing caps this should make the bearings and races
have a tighter fit which would result in a higher reading for preload.

I will also be replacing my kingpins - I plan to add some HD Disc Brake Spindles at the same time.

>
> thanks for your help
>
> marko in vancouver
> marko helix.net
> 71 f250 4x4

--
Nick Finney
nfinney earthlink.net

69 F100 390 FE
Formerly:
66 Ford Mustang FASTback 289.

First On Race Day!


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>From wiandt vnet.net Mon Mar 24 08:53:32 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: jimi.vnet.net: ACCS-AS18-DP09.ATLN.grid.net [206.80.183.202] didn't use HELO protocol From: Larry Wiandt
Subject: Re: Garage work?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 09:24 PM 1997/03/21 -0500, you wrote:
>Has anyone else heard the rumors of the government outlawing mechanic
>work unless done in certified shops? I heard This rumor and it
>shocked me. I like to work on cars just for the fun of it. It's one
>of my biggest hobbies. If anyone has heard any more about this let
>me know.
>

Actually I read a couple of years ago that the EPA has tossed around the idea of sealing hoods os that the consumer couldn't get into the engine campartment. But they were talking about new production.


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>From wiandt vnet.net Mon Mar 24 09:02:39 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: jimi.vnet.net: ACCS-AS18-DP09.ATLN.grid.net [206.80.183.202] didn't use HELO protocol From: Larry Wiandt
Subject: Re: Problems in early 90's F250?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 10:14 AM 1997/03/22 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Chuck:
>
>I worked for a small excavating co. and have some considerable experience
>with diesels, altho mostly big ones (cummins, cat). Be sure to buy a truck
>with proper maintenance records.
>
>Yes, the Shell Rotella T is quite a good oil. Change it as often as the
>manual says. The usual grade is 15-40.
>

I have never heard of Shell Rotella T, I assume it is made by Shell Oil Co.
I have been using Pennzoil in my truck since it was new and have about 31,000 miles on it now. Should I change or is Pennzoil ok to use?



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>From gypsybill usa.net Mon Mar 24 09:38:51 1997 From: "Bill Rotureau" Subject: Re: Re: Headers for '77 F100
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Garry wrote:

>>I belive that some one offered headers for 77 up with 351m-400equiped
>>trucks. Try calling Jegs or Summit, and asking them. Hedman, Hooker,
>>or Doug`s come to mind right off. You might have to call factory
>>direct, ask for tech line. They usually are very helpful.

Thanks,

I will give them a try - Summit has a site so I will try an drop them a message as nothing appears in their current catalog (Jegs neither), but I have called them before and got good results. I got Hedman for my '64 with a 302 in it and only had some minor crossmember alterations to do.

Bill..

'64 F100 Shortbox (wannabe hotrod)
'95 Thunderbird (wife's ride)
'90 Harley Dresser


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>From wrd pacbell.net Mon Mar 24 09:40:40 1997 From: wrd pacbell.net
Subject: Electric window question.
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Boys and Girls:

The driver's side electric window on my '91 F-150 gave up the ghost last month. At least it died in the up position. The fuse checks OK and with the scores of burned out electric motor stories I've heard from other Ford truck owners, I gotta figure that's the problem. Any idea out there if this is a relatively easy job or should I take it to the shop?
Can the motors be rewound or should a new one be installed?

Thanks in advance.

Randy
Sandy Eggo, CA
120,000 miles and never spent the night in the shop. :-)


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>From PonyTom aol.com Mon Mar 24 09:59:42 1997 From: PonyTom aol.com
Subject: Motor Oil
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi Fordtrucker's,

I'm new to the list....just got on last night, so hello to all.
On the subject of Motor Oil , I am quite opinionated, as my opinion is...As long as you change the oil every 3,000 miles the odds of a bearing failure due to lack of lubrication are minimal...obviously excluding the possibility of a leak.
I don't think changing brands is a good idea, as a small portion of the old oil remains in the engine....case in point ...a neighbor with a bronco changed his brand of oil....started to foam, and he traded the truck off less than a month later.


Tom Maguire Near Dayton OH
'59 Ranchero
'56 Customline
'72 Mustang
'69 lincoln........suicide


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>From usfmdspr ibmmail.com Mon Mar 24 10:06:44 1997 From: "RANDY ZEILINGER (RZEILING) e-mail(usfmdspr ibmmail.com)" Subject: Electric window question.
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Same thing happened to my 90 F-150. I suggest replacing the actuator motor.
You will have to grind or drill the rivets that hold it to the door. If you have the tools its not too hard to do. IMHO its better to simply replace the unit instead of trying to R&R it.

Good luck, Randy Z.

~~~~~~NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!~~~~~~ (313) 39-02922 FAX (313) 845-5383 Pager (810) 890-3665 FoMoCo Vehicle Operations Maufacturing Engineer---Powertrain
1999 F-150, F-250, SVE, EXPEDITION and NAVIGATOR trucks.
*** Forwarding note from I2328401--IBMMAIL 03/24/97 09:58 *** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:40:40 -0500 (EST) From: wrd pacbell.net Subject: Electric window question.
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Boys and Girls:

The driver's side electric window on my '91 F-150 gave up the ghost last month. At least it died in the up position. The fuse checks OK and with the scores of burned out electric motor stories I've heard from other Ford truck owners, I gotta figure that's the problem. Any idea out there if this is a relatively easy job or should I take it to the shop?
Can the motors be rewound or should a new one be installed?

Thanks in advance.

Randy Sandy Eggo, CA 120,000 miles and never spent the night in the shop. :-)


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 24 10:08:54 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Re: A/C musty smell (Robert)
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>1) Extreme musty smell when A/C has been ran and then truck parked for
>several hours. (Dealer has pulled condenser and cleaned....they said)
>
>2) Squealing serpentine belt until engine warm. Is this a sign of the
>problem I heard about idler pulleys or just a thing to live with.
>
>Robert

Hi Robert,

I believe there is a TSB out on the musty A/C smell. Check www.alldata.com or ask your dealer to search the TSBs. I think the one I read was for a '96 but of course it will probably still apply to your truck.

Sorry if this is a stale reply, I was out of the office Friday.

Regards,
Jon and the Big Red One
in Houston


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>From gypsybill usa.net Mon Mar 24 10:16:01 1997 From: "Bill Rotureau" Subject: Re: Re: Re: Headers for '77 F100 To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Found the headers at Jegs - DynoMax for $81.99.

Thanks to all..


Bill

'64 F100 Shortbox (wannabe hotrod)
'95 Thunderbird (wife's ride)
'90 Harley Dresser


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>From wiandt vnet.net Mon Mar 24 10:23:13 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: jimi.vnet.net: ACCS-AS18-DP16.ATLN.grid.net [206.80.183.209] didn't use HELO protocol From: Larry Wiandt
Subject: Fuel Tank switch
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I have a 93 F350 with the twin tanks and I have been wondering about the switch that changes from one tank to the other. I can't help but wonder how long will it be until it fails and when it does fail, how will I know.
I have a diesel in my truck and do not want to run out of fuel because this switch didn't work. Has any one had any trouble with this happening? Is there something I should do or look for?

I wish it had the same setup as the '69 F250 that my dad had years ago with the brass valve on the floor on the drivers side. There was no mistaking that you had switched the tank. Ahh, for the old days...


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 24 10:24:53 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Re: Chuck's diesel inquiry.

To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>I'm in the process of shopping for an early 90's F250 4X4 with the diesel
>engine. Are there any problems I should be looking for. I'm especially
>concerned about the engine. I've never owned a diesel before, however I
>have been somewhat convinced to go this route due to the positive feedback
>I have received. Does anybody have any experience with the Powerstroke 7.3
>engine? Good or Bad.

The Powerstroke is a completely different engine from the International 7.3 and is really the T444E. I don't think it was available until 1994 model year.

It is a "new" generation electronically-controlled diesel. If this bothers you from a serviceability standpoint, consider the 7.3 with its mechanical controls and injection. Of course, the T444E honks, and will easily outperform its non- turbocharged counterpart.

>Realistically, what sort of gas mileage should I expect?

Not very much, since gas in your fuel will explode your engine! Seriously, expect from the high 14s to 18 or so, depending on load, driving, etc.

>What are the maitenance costs like?

If you don't change your own oil, or do insist on buying Ford parts, expect to go broke at the time of the first oil change. Otherwise, you can buy fuel and lube oil filters at International truck dealerships for *much* less and you can buy Rotella-T or Delo by the gallon for about $4-5 at Wal-Mart.

>
>I would appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer.

Regards,
Jon and the Big Red One
in Houston


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>From kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us Mon Mar 24 10:30:15 1997 From: kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us
Subject: Electric Window Question Possibility To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hey Randy, et al,

Another possibility could be the wires between the door and lower A-pillar, by the hinges. Does your truck have this taped-bundle of wires? If so, you can perform an easy check by feel while flexing this cabled bundle. Since you said it is the driver's door window, you may not be getting power to the window drive unit, and no sense taking the door apart without checking the easy stuff first! (Now if _I_ would only remember that advice when _I'm_ troubleshooting!!!!)
; )

Few years ago, my sister's car lost control of various power accessories from the driver's door control panel. I found that the culprit was that these wires had flex-ed so many times that the stranded copper AND even the insulation was broken in half. I used the crimp tube-type connectors to repair the damaged wires, and re-taped the overall wire cabling neatly. This fix still is fully functional after 3+ years.

Hope this helps!

Eric
=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
=============================


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 24 10:30:48 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Re: diesel truck info...

To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Where do you live if you live in a colder climate you may experience
>trouble starting a diesel. make sure it has a block heater(most of
>them will) and an oil pan heater would probably not be a bad idea.

This is good advice for the 7.3 IDI diesel. The new T444E (Powerstroke) has an integral block heater and is alleged to start down to -20F. I have personally started mine in the high teens and low 20s without any problems whatsoever (engine spins three times and starts). The T444E also has glow plugs and this helps a bunch. I have never used the block heater.

A guy on the cummins list who owns a Powerstroke and lives in Maine reports no problems starting his truck in unreal low temps during the winter.

Regards,
Jon and the Big Red One
in Houston


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 24 10:33:47 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Re: diesel truck info...

To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Some nutcase will tell you to use "quick start" or some other ether spray to
>start the engine in really cold weather. Do not listen to nutcases. They
>will like it when your engine blows up, and you won't.

Again, excellent advice. The T444E (Powerstroke) has electric glow plugs, and they will ignite starting fluid with the possible results as described above.

There is a sticker on the airbox advising NOT to do it. So don't!

Regards,
Jon and the Big Red One
in Houston


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>From kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us Mon Mar 24 10:52:11 1997 From: kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us
Subject: Re: Bummed about lugs; and relief To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Ken, and all,

> From: Ken Payne
> Subject: Bummed about lugs; and relief

> Well, after weeks of farting around and not changing out the
> differential on my truck I finally got to work on it today.

> So now my truck sits until I get a new set of rear wheels, not
> going to be easy or cheap as they are 10.5 inch wide wheels.
> I want to try to keep to the same size as the tires cost me
> $125 each.
>

> The moral of the story, check the tires first!

Ah, yes....the moral of the story! I too spent the last couple of weeks' few spare moments sandblasting, painting, and finally, this weekend got my "new" (used) tires mounted and balanced for my ole truck......only to find out during the spin balancing that one of the rims is bent pretty bad!!! In my defense, I probably couldn't have detected this type of damage since the "inside" portion of the rim is out of whack with the "outer" portion of the rim, but you can't see it with your eyes until you mount and spin it. (And yes, they still charge you for their services!)

Anyways, like Ken said: The moral of the story, check the tires first! ;)

Ken, congrats on the news.....

My wife and I were in your shoes one year ago (last Valentines day to be exact) when we had a "bad triple screen test result".
Actually we spent V-day getting the barrage of tests on my wife and our unborn little guy. I have the same d*amn pit in my gut feeling right now just writing this, but thank God our boy was healthy as can be! The real kicker is you are about the 8th person I know that had an abnormal result that proved erroneous (in 1 year) since our episode - and I don't know that many pregant couples! (Can you say "medical kickbacks?!")

Congratulations again! Now you'll have another little helper in the garage when tinkering with your old Ford truck..... See how I cleverly tied that into a FORDTRUCK-related topic!

;-{D

Eric








> Oh, if anyone wondered where I was on Wednesday: my wife
> and I were at the doctors office all day. There was a possibility
> of some serious complications with her pregnancy. After much
> prayer (trust, even if you're the type who doesn't pray you
> would if you thought your unborn child might have downs syndrome)
> from myself, my wife, family, alot of friends and co-workers
> all the tests show that the baby has no signs of any problems.
> The doctor said the baby appears perfectly normal and brain developement
> is right on schedule plus there's excellent blood flow. Huge
> sigh of relief from me and a lot of gratitude. Oh, it's a boy (I
> already have a 7 year girl)!!!!! Only 2 months to go!
>
> -Ken Payne
> 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
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=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
=============================


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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Mon Mar 24 10:54:38 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: Summit Headers
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:02:15 -0500 (EST)
> From: William Enox
> Subject: Re: Summit Headers
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Reply-to: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> marko maryniak wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> What's a challenger?????????????
>
> hahahahahahahahaha.....
>
> actually for musclecars i like mopars too
>
> I like anything that doesn't start with a C or a G.
> Mopars are easier to make fast than Fords...the enginebays
> are bigger.
> But the older dodge trucks are UGLY. So I'm going with a Ford truck.
AMEN!!!! I wouldn't be caught dead owning a C/G word!!


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>From usfmdspr ibmmail.com Mon Mar 24 11:04:21 1997 From: "RANDY ZEILINGER (RZEILING) e-mail(usfmdspr ibmmail.com)" Subject: Electric Window Question Possibility To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

All, Eric has very good advice. Check the simple things first.
My reply was intended for a known bad unit.

Randy Z.
1996 F-150 S/C 4x4

~~~~~~NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!~~~~~~ (313) 39-02922 FAX (313) 845-5383 Pager (810) 890-3665 FoMoCo Vehicle Operations Maufacturing Engineer---Powertrain
1999 F-150, F-250, SVE, EXPEDITION and NAVIGATOR trucks.
*** Forwarding note from I2328401--IBMMAIL 03/24/97 10:56 *** Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:30:15 -0500 (EST) From: kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us Subject: Electric Window Question Possibility To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hey Randy, et al,

Another possibility could be the wires between the door and lower A-pillar, by the hinges. Does your truck have this taped-bundle of wires? If so, you can perform an easy check by feel while flexing this cabled bundle. Since you said it is the driver's door window, you may not be getting power to the window drive unit, and no sense taking the door apart without checking the easy stuff first! (Now if _I_ would only remember that advice when _I'm_ troubleshooting!!!!) ; )

Few years ago, my sister's car lost control of various power accessories from the driver's door control panel. I found that the culprit was that these wires had flex-ed so many times that the stranded copper AND even the insulation was broken in half. I used the crimp tube-type connectors to repair the damaged wires, and re-taped the overall wire cabling neatly. This fix still is fully functional after 3+ years.

Hope this helps!

Eric =============================
"Happy Days" 1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block =============================


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>From carogers mtu.edu Mon Mar 24 11:04:31 1997 From: Christopher Rogers Subject: Re: '88 Ford Bronco II
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

One problem with changing the solenoid yourself is that it is rivited in.
And from my understanding the rivit that goes in the new one is fairly large and Ford has a special rivit gun for. Also, the solenoid is around $80, I'd check a junk yard for used ones though.

Chris


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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Mon Mar 24 11:05:58 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: Problems in early 90's F250?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> >Chuck:
> >
> >I worked for a small excavating co. and have some considerable experience
> >with diesels, altho mostly big ones (cummins, cat). Be sure to buy a truck
> >with proper maintenance records.
> >
> >Yes, the Shell Rotella T is quite a good oil. Change it as often as the
> >manual says. The usual grade is 15-40.
> >
>
> I have never heard of Shell Rotella T, I assume it is made by Shell Oil Co.
> I have been using Pennzoil in my truck since it was new and have about
> 31,000 miles on it now. Should I change or is Pennzoil ok to use?
I just recommended Rotella T because it is used by many long haul truckers, and a certain professor of mine in his F250 W/diesel, and with high acclaim I might add.

Jason Wodack


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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Mon Mar 24 11:08:12 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: Garage work?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> >Has anyone else heard the rumors of the government outlawing mechanic
> >work unless done in certified shops? I heard This rumor and it
> >shocked me. I like to work on cars just for the fun of it. It's one
> >of my biggest hobbies. If anyone has heard any more about this let
> >me know.
> >
>
> Actually I read a couple of years ago that the EPA has tossed around the
> idea of sealing hoods os that the consumer couldn't get into the engine
> campartment. But they were talking about new production.
This would still suck!!!


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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Mon Mar 24 11:17:33 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: Motor Oil
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Hi Fordtrucker's,
>
> I'm new to the list....just got on last night, so hello to all.
> On the subject of Motor Oil , I am quite opinionated, as my opinion is...As
> long as you change the oil every 3,000 miles the odds of a bearing failure
> due to lack of lubrication are minimal...obviously excluding the possibility
> of a leak.
An oil that is to light weight can cause extreme bearing stress and failure. Always read Owners manual for Motor specs.





> I don't think changing brands is a good idea, as a small portion of the old
> oil remains in the engine....case in point ...a neighbor with a bronco
> changed his brand of oil....started to foam, and he traded the truck off less
> than a month later.
I believe what should be examined here is the protection of either brand you would possibly lets face it if you do any amount of driving your engine is going to get hot. If you do your 3000 miles at low RPM's it will have a different effect on the oil than driving 3000 miles at high RPM's. A motor oil with a higher viscosity will definately be better for your vehicle. It's that simple. Even though it took me a whole paragraph to explain. :o)


Oh and welcome to the list


Jason Wodack


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>From payne platinum.com Mon Mar 24 11:31:38 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Bummed about lugs; and relief To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Ken, and all,

-snip-
>> Well, after weeks of farting around and not changing out the
>> differential on my truck I finally got to work on it today.

>> The moral of the story, check the tires first!

>Ah, yes....the moral of the story! I too spent the last couple of
>weeks' few spare moments sandblasting, painting, and finally, this
>weekend got my "new" (used) tires mounted and balanced for
>my ole truck......only to find out during the spin balancing that
>one of the rims is bent pretty bad!!! In my defense, I probably
>couldn't have detected this type of damage since the "inside" portion
>of the rim is out of whack with the "outer" portion of the rim, but
>you can't see it with your eyes until you mount and spin it. (And
>yes, they still charge you for their services!)

>Anyways, like Ken said: The moral of the story, check the tires
>first! ;)

Its always the last 5% of the job that makes evident the previous 95% was in vain. There must be a Murphy's Law about this one.

>Ken, congrats on the news.....

>My wife and I were in your shoes one year ago (last Valentines
>day to be exact) when we had a "bad triple screen test result".
>Actually we spent V-day getting the barrage of tests on my wife and
>our unborn little guy. I have the same d*amn pit in my gut
>feeling right now just writing this, but thank God our boy was
>healthy as can be! The real kicker is you are about the 8th person I ?know that had an abnormal result that proved erroneous (in 1
>year) since our episode - and I don't know that many pregant
>couples! (Can you say "medical kickbacks?!")

The doc said that the nurse overstepped her bounds by even mentioning problems before test results.

>Congratulations again! Now you'll have another little helper in
>the garage when tinkering with your old Ford truck..... See how I
>cleverly tied that into a FORDTRUCK-related topic!

My wife says I need a boy so I'll stop doing the "pull my finger" trick on our girl!

Thanks to you and everyone else who sent congrats! I'm going to see if I can track down a 67-72 F100 Matchbox/Hotwheels for the boy... (








> Oh, if anyone wondered where I was on Wednesday: my wife
> and I were at the doctors office all day. There was a possibility
> of some serious complications with her pregnancy. After much
> prayer (trust, even if you're the type who doesn't pray you
> would if you thought your unborn child might have downs syndrome)
> from myself, my wife, family, alot of friends and co-workers
> all the tests show that the baby has no signs of any problems.
> The doctor said the baby appears perfectly normal and brain developement
> is right on schedule plus there's excellent blood flow. Huge
> sigh of relief from me and a lot of gratitude. Oh, it's a boy (I
> already have a 7 year girl)!!!!! Only 2 months to go!
>
> -Ken Payne
> 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
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