Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:02:32 -0500 (EST) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
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Volume 97 Number 0028 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

Re: 1963 F100
Re: Garage work?
Problems in early 90's F250?
Re: Problems in early 90's F250?
Re: Problems in early 90's F250?
Re: Headers for '77 F100
Bummed about lugs; and relief
Re: Bummed about lugs; and relief
Re: Headers for '77 F100
Re: 90 Ranger
Summit Headers
Re: Bummed about lugs; and relief
carb woes begone
Re: Summit Headers
Re: carb woes begone
Re: Headers for '77 F100
Re: 1963 F100
Re: Headers for '77 F100
57 292 spark plugs
300 users
'88 Ford Bronco II
Re: 1963 F100
71 f250 kingpins
Re: Summit Headers
Re: '88 Ford Bronco II
Re: Summit Headers


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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Sat Mar 22 00:46:26 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: 1963 F100
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:13:10 -0500 (EST)
> From: Steve & Rockette
> Subject: Re: 1963 F100
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Reply-to: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> >d recomend Chilton they produce the most thoroughRepair manuals that
> >I've seen.
> >
> >Jason Wodack
> >'84 Bronco II
>
>
> Chiltons give you just enough info to get you
> into trouble... best manuals for the DIY are Haynes,
> the next best is Clymer.
> The ultimate manual is the Factory Repair Manual.
>
>
> Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
> '57 F100 Shorty
> '63 F100 Longbox
I've got a haynes manual for my Bronco II and it really doesn't give me that much I still get lost occasionally. I've got a chilton manual for my moms car and it seems to give much more info, maybe it's just me. Also I havn't seen any factory repair manuals around.
They would probably sell them at a dealership maybe I should look harder.

Jason Wodack
'84 Bronco II


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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Sat Mar 22 00:49:10 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: Garage work?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:57:11 -0500 (EST)
> From: Ken Payne
> Subject: Re: Garage work?
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Reply-to: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> At 09:24 PM 3/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >Has anyone else heard the rumors of the government outlawing mechanic
> >work unless done in certified shops? I heard This rumor and it
> >shocked me. I like to work on cars just for the fun of it. It's one
> >of my biggest hobbies. If anyone has heard any more about this let
> >me know.
> >
>
> That's just what it is, a rumor. The new smog laws make it very
> difficult on the new cars to fiddle with the car without having
> special equipement, however there is nothing pending that will
> outlaw mechanic work. A significant percentage of the economy
> is based on the current structure of auto parts stores and small
> mechanic shops - not something that would be messed with. I
> think you'd see a big stink on the news if it was messed with.
>
> -Ken Payne
> 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
> List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
> Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe
> form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks That's a relief I would go nuts without a little tinkering on my truck, or someone elses car for that matter(even the c-words).

Jason Wodack
'84 Bronco II


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>From pears jps.net Sat Mar 22 03:53:11 1997 From: Chuck Bartlett
Subject: Problems in early 90's F250?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I'm in the process of shopping for an early 90's F250 4X4 with the diesel engine. Are there any problems I should be looking for. I'm especially concerned about the engine. I've never owned a diesel before, however I have been somewhat convinced to go this route due to the positive feedback I have received. Does anybody have any experience with the Powerstroke 7.3 engine? Good or Bad.

Realistically, what sort of gas mileage should I expect?
What are the maitenance costs like?

I would appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer.

Chuck Bartlett



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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Sat Mar 22 04:20:03 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: Problems in early 90's F250?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:53:11 -0500 (EST)
> From: Chuck Bartlett
> Subject: Problems in early 90's F250?
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Reply-to: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> I'm in the process of shopping for an early 90's F250 4X4 with the diesel
> > engine. Are there any problems I should be looking for. I'm especially
> concerned about the engine. I've never owned a diesel before, however I
> have been somewhat convinced to go this route due to the positive feedback
> I have received. Does anybody have any experience with the Powerstroke 7.3
> engine? Good or Bad.
>
> Realistically, what sort of gas mileage should I expect?
> What are the maitenance costs like?
>
> I would appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer.
>
> Chuck Bartlett
Where do you live if you live in a colder climate you may experience trouble starting a diesel. make sure it has a block heater(most of them will) and an oil pan heater would probably not be a bad idea.
also when you do get this diesel shell produces a motor oil called "shell rotella" It is the best oil on the market it is used by many long haul truckers in thier rigs. The engine runs quieter and it doesn't break down easily. Good luck.

Jason Wodack


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>From marko helix.net Sat Mar 22 10:14:16 1997 From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re: Problems in early 90's F250?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>I'm in the process of shopping for an early 90's F250 4X4 with the diesel
> >engine. Are there any problems I should be looking for. I'm especially
>concerned about the engine. I've never owned a diesel before, however I
>have been somewhat convinced to go this route due to the positive feedback
>I have received. Does anybody have any experience with the Powerstroke 7.3
>engine? Good or Bad.
>
>Realistically, what sort of gas mileage should I expect?
>What are the maitenance costs like?
>
>I would appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer.
>
>Chuck Bartlett
>


Chuck:

I worked for a small excavating co. and have some considerable experience with diesels, altho mostly big ones (cummins, cat). Be sure to buy a truck with proper maintenance records.

Yes, the Shell Rotella T is quite a good oil. Change it as often as the manual says. The usual grade is 15-40.

Some nutcase will tell you to use "quick start" or some other ether spray to start the engine in really cold weather. Do not listen to nutcases. They will like it when your engine blows up, and you won't.

All that volatility don't mix with compression. Remember that diesel engine compression is 2-3 times higher than in gas engines.

Also, esp in cold weather do not drive the thing until it has properly warmed up. Diesels, esp the bigger ones, are designed essentially as constant-speed engines so revving or punching the engine, especially when it is cold, is a really, really bad idea.

You will have to keep an eye on the fuel filter as well as the oil, as they plug up much more rapidly in a diesel.

Diesels use considerably more air than gas engines, and turbodiesels even more (like 3x more). Keep you aircleaner clean. Often they are expensive for diesels, so make sure you blow it out or at least shake it out often (every 1500 miles or so). If your engine starts to smoke unusually, don't rush to have your injection pump changed, just buy a new air cleaner and see if that solves the problem. You'd be surprised just how much difference these things make. Often a good way of telling if a really careful guy owned your truck before you do is if the air cleaner is properly serviced.



Finally, do not expect any gas mileage at all from your powerstroke. If you do make the mistake of using gas, you will probably make it no more than a mile on a whole tank!!!



marko in Vancouver
marko helix.net

71 f250 4wd



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>From nfinney earthlink.net Sat Mar 22 12:03:24 1997 From: Nick Finney Subject: Re: Headers for '77 F100
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Bill Rotureau wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> More on my friend who is putting a 351 Cleveland in his '77 F100. He
> asked me if I knew anyone who makes headers that might fit this
> combination without any major modifications. As the Cleveland was not offered
> (I don't think) in trucks, I told him I didn't know, but someone on this
> mailing list might. If anyone has any ideas or help on this, it will be
> appreciated. If it matters, he is going to mate this engine up to a
> three speed - although I am trying to talk him into going to a C6 of the
> same vintage. On that note, does anyone have a source for a C6 that will
> go with a 351 Cleveland???
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
> '64 F100 Shortbox 302/C4
> (wannabe hotrod)
>

Use the C6 to fit the 289,302,351W it should also fit the 351C.


--
Nick Finney
nfinney earthlink.net

69 F100 390 FE
Formerly:
66 Ford Mustang FASTback 289.

First On Race Day!


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>From kpayne mindspring.com Sat Mar 22 15:33:14 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Bummed about lugs; and relief
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Well, after weeks of farting around and not changing out the differential on my truck I finally got to work on it today.
The truck has been parked for 4 weeks. Anyways, I cleaned, primed and painted the junkyard unit, took off the drive-shaft and then went around to the rear-left tire and took off the wheel cover. Lo' and behold, I found what destroyed 2 u-joints, the differential yoke and the differential. All 5 lug nugs were nearly ready to come off, about 1 inch of play on each. All the threads were chewed off and the bolts nearly eaten half way through from the tire wobbling around. Lucky I've got a spare axle in the shed, my wife has been on to me for a year to throw it away - hint: if it aint broke, don't toss it! Thank God that sucker didn't come off while on the highway! Anyways, it turns out that the differential was the effect, not the cause. The wheel is trashed too, most of the bolt holes are almost big enough to let the nuts through!

So now my truck sits until I get a new set of rear wheels, not going to be easy or cheap as they are 10.5 inch wide wheels.
I want to try to keep to the same size as the tires cost me $125 each.

The moral of the story, check the tires first!

Oh, if anyone wondered where I was on Wednesday: my wife and I were at the doctors office all day. There was a possibility of some serious complications with her pregnancy. After much prayer (trust, even if you're the type who doesn't pray you would if you thought your unborn child might have downs syndrome) from myself, my wife, family, alot of friends and co-workers all the tests show that the baby has no signs of any problems.
The doctor said the baby appears perfectly normal and brain developement is right on schedule plus there's excellent blood flow. Huge sigh of relief from me and a lot of gratitude. Oh, it's a boy (I already have a 7 year girl)!!!!! Only 2 months to go!

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Sat Mar 22 16:15:44 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: Bummed about lugs; and relief To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Oh, if anyone wondered where I was on Wednesday: my wife
> and I were at the doctors office all day. There was a possibility
> of some serious complications with her pregnancy. After much
> prayer (trust, even if you're the type who doesn't pray you
> would if you thought your unborn child might have downs syndrome)
> from myself, my wife, family, alot of friends and co-workers
> all the tests show that the baby has no signs of any problems.
> The doctor said the baby appears perfectly normal and brain developement
> is right on schedule plus there's excellent blood flow. Huge
> sigh of relief from me and a lot of gratitude. Oh, it's a boy (I
> already have a 7 year girl)!!!!! Only 2 months to go!
>
> -Ken Payne
> 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 Congratulations!!!
Jason Wodack


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>From canzus seanet.com Sat Mar 22 16:35:08 1997 From: Steve & Rockette Subject: Re: Headers for '77 F100
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 03:37 PM 3/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey folks,
>
>More on my friend who is putting a 351 Cleveland in his '77 F100. He
>asked me if I knew anyone who makes headers that might fit this
>combination without any major modifications. As the Cleveland was not offered
>(I don't think) in trucks, I told him I didn't know, but someone on this
>mailing list might. If anyone has any ideas or help on this, it will be
>appreciated. If it matters, he is going to mate this engine up to a
>three speed - although I am trying to talk him into going to a C6 of the
>same vintage. On that note, does anyone have a source for a C6 that will
>go with a 351 Cleveland???

Get headers for a 400, and C6 from a mid 70's Lincoln.

Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'57 F100 Shorty
'63 F100 Longbox



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>From canzus seanet.com Sat Mar 22 16:35:10 1997 From: Steve & Rockette Subject: Re: 90 Ranger
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 08:46 AM 3/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>One of the guys here at work has a 90 ranger that is getting
>water in the cab on the drivers side only. The heater core is
>fine.


Check the seal on the wiper mount, check the drain holes for the cowl, and then check the drivers door seal...

Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'57 F100 Shorty
'63 F100 Longbox



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>From mikes phoenix.net Sat Mar 22 19:20:46 1997 From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Summit Headers
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Just curious if anyone has seen and or used the Summit's house brand headers. I have a rebuilt 302 in a '78 F150 long box. It has an Edelbrock Performer intake and Holley 600CFM carb. Now that I have the engine finished, I'm moving on to the exhaust. It has stock dual exhaust with the stock ....

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