Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:13:16 -0500 (EST) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
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Volume 97 Number 0027 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

Re: I hate thieves
1963 F100
Re: 1963 F100
Re: 1963 F100
'77 F100 Axle Code & etc.
90 Ranger
The F150 is a "heavy half ton". Ford made the load capacity
re: '77 F100 Axle Code & etc.
Re: 90 Ranger Water Woes
Re: Mailing List
Re: Pigeon Forge
Air conditioning smell
Re: steering rag joint repair - INSTALLED
Re: 90 Ranger
Re: 90 Ranger
Re: '77 F100 Axle Code & etc.
Headers for '77 F100
Re: 90 Ranger
Re: 1963 F100
Garage work?
Re: 1963 F100
Re: Garage work?


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>From bigric mail.utexas.edu Thu Mar 20 22:52:38 1997 From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico) Subject: Re: I hate thieves
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Real bummer: You find, I'll hold 'em - you can have your way with
>them.
That's what I'm looking for. Along with my radio.

>One of the reasons my wannabe hotrod '64 is still in rattle can grey
>primer with an ugly camper shell on it... Scared to make it look good
>for fear someone will notice that I don't want noticing.
It's almost like dumping in all the time and money to making it immaculate actually went to hurt me. At least they didn't harm the truck besides the glass and the very top of the door ($160 altogether).

>My condolances,
Much appreciated.

bigric mail.utexas.edu
'68 Ford F100 Custom Cab Stepside 360 FE '66 VW Beetle 1300



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>From cardoso EESUN2.tamu.edu Thu Mar 20 23:45:03 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: eesun1.tamu.edu: cardoso owned process doing -bs From: Jesus Cardoso Subject: 1963 F100
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi,

I just recently bought a '63 F100 (step-side, with possibly a long wheel base). Needless to say this is my first Ford and I don't know to much about the truck. Does anyone know where I can find information on trucks of that year (number of trucks produced, engine specs, etc.)?

Thank you,

Jesus
cardoso tamu.edu



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>From nfinney earthlink.net Fri Mar 21 00:08:40 1997 From: Nick Finney Subject: Re: 1963 F100
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Jesus Cardoso wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just recently bought a '63 F100 (step-side, with possibly a long
> wheel base). Needless to say this is my first Ford and I don't know to
> much about the truck. Does anyone know where I can find information on
> trucks of that year (number of trucks produced, engine specs, etc.)?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jesus
> cardoso tamu.edu

What kind of motor does it have??? V8? Inline 6? How many cubic inches displacement?

--
Nick Finney
nfinney earthlink.net

69 F100 390 FE
Formerly:
66 Ford Mustang FASTback 289.

First On Race Day!


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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Fri Mar 21 01:28:03 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: 1963 F100
X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Jason C Wodack" X-pmrqc: 1
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:45:03 -0500 (EST)
> From: Jesus Cardoso
> Subject: 1963 F100
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Reply-to: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Hi,
>
> I just recently bought a '63 F100 (step-side, with possibly a long
> wheel base). Needless to say this is my first Ford and I don't know to
> much about the truck. Does anyone know where I can find information on
> trucks of that year (number of trucks produced, engine specs, etc.)?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jesus
> cardoso tamu.edu
> Jesus
You can usually find a repair manual at your local auto parts store this should provide you with the engine specs, as well as a plethera of other information. I'
d recomend Chilton they produce the most thoroughRepair manuals that I've seen.

Jason Wodack
'84 Bronco II
>
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>From JKruse007 aol.com Fri Mar 21 08:32:34 1997 From: JKruse007 aol.com
Subject: '77 F100 Axle Code & etc.
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hello,

I have a 1977 F100 with a 300 six cylinder (3 on the tree) in it. I have owned the truck for about 1 year now and I'm planning on trying to restore it to a "good" daily driver. The truck has been good to me! I have a few questions that I need some help in answering.

1. The axle code for this truck is listed as 47. I have checked the chilton's manual, but I can not find a gear ratio for this code. I thought the axle code might have been a special order (maybe posi - traction.). Any clues?

2. I am having a problem with a dieseling sound emitting from my engine when under heavy load (going up hills,and hot days). I have checked the timing, and it appears to be ok. However, the motor has 180K miles on it. I have had several different opinions - worn bearings, worn timing gears, valves, bad gas, etc. I am planning on checking the compression this weekend. I have not noticed any oil burning characteristics. Any suggestions?

I would like to say I really enjoy reading the e-mail that is posted on this newsgroup! Most of it is very informative in one way or another.

Thanks,
John K.
'77 F100
300


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>From PACEG1 WPGATE.UOFS.EDU Fri Mar 21 08:46:20 1997 From: Glen Pace Subject: 90 Ranger
X-VMS-To: in%"fordtrucks lofcom.com"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

One of the guys here at work has a 90 ranger that is getting water in the cab on the drivers side only. The heater core is fine.
Has anyone else had this problem and does anyone have any ideas

for a fix.
Thanks
Glen

96 F-350 4x4
77 F-250 4x4



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>From payne platinum.com Fri Mar 21 09:43:02 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: The F150 is a "heavy half ton". Ford made the load capacity To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

The F150 is a "heavy half ton". Ford made the load capacity a little higher than the F100 in order to get around emissions laws. The last F100s came off the line around 80-82? Oh, the law caught up!

>>> RL 03/19/97 07:39pm >>> What is the differnce between a F-100 and a F-150, etc. When did the F-100
series get axed?
Ryan






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>From payne platinum.com Fri Mar 21 10:15:28 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: re: '77 F100 Axle Code & etc.
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> 03/21/97 07:32am >>>
>Hello,

>I have a 1977 F100 with a 300 six cylinder (3 on the tree) in it. I have
>owned the truck for about 1 year now and I'm planning on trying to restore it
>to a "good" daily driver. The truck has been good to me! I have a few
>questions that I need some help in answering.

>1. The axle code for this truck is listed as 47. I have checked the
>chilton's manual, but I can not find a gear ratio for this code. I thought
>the axle code might have been a special order (maybe posi - traction.). Any
>clues?

There should be a tag on the differential casing. It will have the gear ratio on it. The tag is on the front side, held in place by one of the casing bolts. If it isn't there, let me know and I'll see if I can dig up the info.

>2. I am having a problem with a dieseling sound emitting from my engine when
>under heavy load (going up hills,and hot days). I have checked the timing,
>and it appears to be ok. However, the motor has 180K miles on it. I have
>had several different opinions - worn bearings, worn timing gears, valves,
>bad gas, etc. I am planning on checking the compression this weekend. I
>have not noticed any oil burning characteristics. Any suggestions?

Retard the time a degree or two until you track it down. You don't want to put any extra strain on the engine until you know for sure. It may be a case of elimating items one at a time.

-Ken




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>From kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us Fri Mar 21 11:23:54 1997 From: kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us
Subject: Re: 90 Ranger Water Woes
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hey Glen, and all,

> One of the guys here at work has a 90 ranger that is getting
> water in the cab on the drivers side only. The heater core is
> fine.
> Has anyone else had this problem and does anyone have any ideas

Fortunately, I haven't had this problem with my '61 F100 or my wife's '93 Ranger, but I did have this problem with an old Chevy truck I had once upon a time. Hey, cut me some slack, ok?!!! ; )

(I am assuming that this truck leaks when it's wet outside.) This sounds like a problem with a windshield leak. Unless you can actually see that water coming in (which I assume your buddy can't since you've posted this question) that water could be coming in from a leak NOT necessarily near where the drip is occurring. My old chevy dripped on the passenger's side, and the leak turned out to be on the driver's side windshield seal. It somehow got re-directed behind the dashboard, wires, etc... until it collected on the passenger's side floorboards.

FWIW, Eastwood company has a colored solution that aids in windshield leak detection. It's a colored solution that shows up under a blacklight to help in finding a windshield leak. I've never actually used this product, but it sure sounds pretty good from their advertisement.

Good luck,
Eric

=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
=============================


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>From beckylyn prodigy.net Fri Mar 21 12:07:11 1997 From: beckylyn
Subject: Re: Mailing List
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

UNDISCRIBE.

beckylyn prodigy.net


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>From sjensen mail.arc.nasa.gov Fri Mar 21 12:28:06 1997 From: Scott Jensen Subject: Re: Pigeon Forge
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hey,
I dont know if this will help, but I have and explorer that does the same thing. I have found that if I turn the AC off but leave the fan running before stopping it does not smell musty. My guess is that the AC is still cooling and condesing water in the evaporator coils thus giving a place for the mold to grow. By leaving the fan on a while it dries it out and wont smell.

Good luck

At 06:37 PM 3/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey Guys,
>
>Anybody got any dates for the Pigeon Forge Show. Got mother-in-law in
>Chattanoga almost due for visiting and might be a good diversion during
>trip.
>
>Also still looking for help on two issues with 1995 F-250 PowerStroke.
>
>1) Extreme musty smell when A/C has been ran and then truck parked for
>several hours. (Dealer has pulled condenser and cleaned....they said)
>
>2) Squealing serpentine belt until engine warm. Is this a sign of the
>problem I heard about idler pulleys or just a thing to live with.
>
>
>
>Robert
>
>1995 F-250 Supercab Longwheel base PowerStroke (gimme 40 acres)
>1978 E-150 Econoline Van, 300 six, manual, 200k miles....it just keeps
>on going and going
>Bought'em both new, the 250's got to last longer than the van so I can
>pay it off.
>
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>From PACEG1 WPGATE.UOFS.EDU Fri Mar 21 12:47:07 1997 From: Glen Pace Subject: Air conditioning smell
X-VMS-To: IN%"FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I remember seeing a TSB on a smelly air system let me check it out and if I can find the fix FORD recomends I will post it.
Glen

96 F-350 4x4
77 F-250 4x4



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>From rick adc.com Fri Mar 21 13:20:17 1997 From: rick adc.com (Rick Larson)
Subject: Re: steering rag joint repair - INSTALLED To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I just want to let everyone know I installed the rag joint yesterday afternoon (very warm and sunny 45 oF!) in my '71.
The rag joint is a flexible coupler between the steering shaft and steering box.

As Ken suggested, I picked up a generic one in the "Help!" section.
I didn't have much trouble removing the rag joint but had to grind off the original pins and replace them with the supplied bolts.
The pins had very deep wear marks and were sharp. The rag joint fell apart in two pieces.

I took less than 1.5 hours and the difference is amazing. I can't believe the difference in road feel and the "Ford wander" is gone. I bet I can even drive the truck again on windy days!

I might even be able to get my wife drive it.

Thanks to Ken Payne and Richard Cherico for replying to my request.

rick

'66 Mustang garage shelf
'71 F100 *Custom* daily driver
--
Rick Larson rick adc.com Minneapolis


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>From nfinney earthlink.net Fri Mar 21 14:29:07 1997 From: Nick Finney Subject: Re: 90 Ranger
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Glen Pace wrote:
>
> One of the guys here at work has a 90 ranger that is getting
> water in the cab on the drivers side only. The heater core is
> fine.
> Has anyone else had this problem and does anyone have any ideas
>
> for a fix.
> Thanks
> Glen
>
> 96 F-350 4x4
> 77 F-250 4x4
>

Does the water have any coolant in it? If it does that it's comming from the cooling system/heater core somewhere.

Does it only occur when it's raining?
Try to get a garden hose and run water over the car starting from the bottom up, slowly move your way all over the car while someone is inside looking for leaks. This will help you to pinpoint the leak.

--
Nick Finney
nfinney earthlink.net

69 F100 390 FE
Formerly:
66 Ford Mustang FASTback 289.

First On Race Day!


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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Fri Mar 21 15:15:48 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: 90 Ranger
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:46:20 -0500 (EST)
> From: Glen Pace
> Subject: 90 Ranger
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Reply-to: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> One of the guys here at work has a 90 ranger that is getting
> water in the cab on the drivers side only. The heater core is
> fine.
> Has anyone else had this problem and does anyone have any ideas
>
> for a fix.
> Thanks
> Glen
>
> 96 F-350 4x4
> 77 F-250 4x4
>
Has he checked the weather stripping out on his door? If it was ripped off or damaged water could easily get in through there.

Jason Wodack
'84 Bronco II


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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Fri Mar 21 15:18:15 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Re: '77 F100 Axle Code & etc.
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:32:34 -0500 (EST)
> From: JKruse007 AOL.com
> Subject: '77 F100 Axle Code & etc.
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Reply-to: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Hello,
>

> I would like to say I really enjoy reading the e-mail that is posted on this
> newsgroup! Most of it is very informative in one way or another.
>
> Thanks,
> John K.
> '77 F100
> 300
Amen!!!

Jason Wodack
'84 Bronco II


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>From gypsybill usa.net Fri Mar 21 15:37:26 1997 From: "Bill Rotureau" Subject: Headers for '77 F100
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hey folks,

More on my friend who is putting a 351 Cleveland in his '77 F100. He asked me if I knew anyone who makes headers that might fit this combination without any major modifications. As the Cleveland was not offered (I don't think) in trucks, I told him I didn't know, but someone on this mailing list might. If anyone has any ideas or help on this, it will be appreciated. If it matters, he is going to mate this engine up to a three speed - although I am trying to talk him into going to a C6 of the same vintage. On that note, does anyone have a source for a C6 that will go with a 351 Cleveland???

Thanks

Bill
'64 F100 Shortbox 302/C4
(wannabe hotrod)


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>From llemmon pilot-ind.com Fri Mar 21 17:27:58 1997 From: llemmon pilot-ind.com
Subject: Re: 90 Ranger
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Glen Pace wrote:
> >
> > One of the guys here at work has a 90 ranger that is getting
> > water in the cab on the drivers side only. The heater core is
> > fine.
> > Has anyone else had this problem and does anyone have any ideas
> >
> > for a fix.
> > Thanks
> > Glen
> >

A friend of mine has a 91 x-cab and he has had leakage also. We figured out that the roof rack he was using had ripped the rain gutter along the roof. We found the crack/rip after we had replaced the windshield seal and it still leaked. After the repair to the roof everything dried up.


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>From kpayne mindspring.com Fri Mar 21 20:32:20 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: 1963 F100
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 11:45 PM 3/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
> I just recently bought a '63 F100 (step-side, with possibly a long
>wheel base). Needless to say this is my first Ford and I don't know to
>much about the truck. Does anyone know where I can find information on
>trucks of that year (number of trucks produced, engine specs, etc.)?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jesus
> cardoso tamu.edu
>

The library here in Atlanta has a ton of information. Probably the same in your area.




-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Fri Mar 21 21:24:38 1997 From: "Jason C Wodack" Subject: Garage work?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Has anyone else heard the rumors of the government outlawing mechanic work unless done in certified shops? I heard This rumor and it shocked me. I like to work on cars just for the fun of it. It's one of my biggest hobbies. If anyone has heard any more about this let me know.

Jason Wodack
'84 Bronco II


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>From canzus seanet.com Fri Mar 21 23:13:10 1997 From: Steve & Rockette Subject: Re: 1963 F100
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>d recomend Chilton they produce the most thoroughRepair manuals that
>I've seen.
>
>Jason Wodack
>'84 Bronco II


Chiltons give you just enough info to get you into trouble... best manuals for the DIY are Haynes, the next best is Clymer.
The ultimate manual is the Factory Repair Manual.


Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'57 F100 Shorty
'63 F100 Longbox



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>From kpayne mindspring.com Fri Mar 21 23:57:11 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Garage work?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 09:24 PM 3/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Has anyone else heard the rumors of the government outlawing mechanic
>work unless done in certified shops? I heard This rumor and it
>shocked me. I like to work on cars just for the fun of it. It's one
>of my biggest hobbies. If anyone has heard any more about this let
>me know.
>

That's just what it is, a rumor. The new smog laws make it very difficult on the new cars to fiddle with the car without having special equipement, however there is nothing pending that will outlaw mechanic work. A significant percentage of the economy is based on the current structure of auto parts stores and small mechanic shops - not something that would be messed with. I think you'd see a big stink on the news if it was messed with.....


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