Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:37:58 -0500 (EST) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
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Volume 97 Number 0024 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

If you follow the items of interest link on the web site
Be careful, some states don't allow below 30%. I'd call your
Re: F[23]50 hubcaps
Tonnage- followup
Re: Voting Results
Re: Fords are used more...
Re: F250 body style
Powerstroke extreme cold starts - reply
Re: 98 model body styles
subject: Re: 98 model body styles
Re: 98 model body styles

Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble
None
Re: 460 or 351W
302's
Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble
RE: carb woes
RE: steering rag joint repair
Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble
Tonnage
Rear axle bearing problems
Re: 71 F100 engine swap
Re:
T-Birds
Re: 71 F100 engine swap
RE: T-Birds
T-Birds
Re: T-Birds
Bronco??
Re: T-Birds
Re:
Information for digest format members
Re: Back up lights& other ?s
Re: Back up lights& other ?s
Re: Information for digest format members


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>From payne platinum.com Mon Mar 17 10:06:55 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: If you follow the items of interest link on the web site To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

If you follow the items of interest link on the web site (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks) you'll find a link to the national database which contains recall information.


>>> RL 03/16/97 04:04pm >>> Hi, I just joined the list and my name is Ryan. Anyway I wanted to ask
this question about 84 Broncos. We used to have one but sadly it burned
because of carb problems. My dad bought it new from the dealer in VA.
And
always had problems with the engine(mostly carb). Were the 84s ever recalled because of this or did ford just sweep it under the carpet?
I had been wondering for some time and thought someone one here might now.
I own a 71 F100 and a 71 Torino. thanks, Ryan






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>From payne platinum.com Mon Mar 17 10:12:31 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: Be careful, some states don't allow below 30%. I'd call your To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Be careful, some states don't allow below 30%. I'd call your state patrol to verify it for your state.

>>> Eddie Torres 03/16/97 11:51pm >>>
I am going to get my Ranger windows tinted, but cannot decide which tint.
Several people I talked to said the 5%, (I guess right above limo tint),
would be dark enough. Others however, said go for the limo tint.
What do
you think? And how much will the tint itself cost, on average? How much
should I pay someone to do it? And, if I choose to do it myself, any hints?

TIA




1997 Ford Ranger XLT
|---------------------------------------------------------------| |a.k.a. | |Eddie Torres NetRanger ThePentagon.com | |Need a homepage? I will design and host it! Email me for info| |---------------------------------------------------------------|



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>From rick rick.atlantaga.ncr.com Mon Mar 17 10:34:51 1997 From: Rick.Calder AtlantaGA.ncr.com (Rick Calder) Subject: Re: F[23]50 hubcaps
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

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->From muccilli rci.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 13 19:56:50 1997 ->From: Todd Muccilli ->Subject: 1978 F250 Ranger 4x4
->To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
->
->For the obligatory question, though: Does anyone know how to remove the hubcaps ->on the Alcoa aluminum wheels that come as part of the XLT package on the 1997 ->(and a few years prior) F-250s and F-350s? I used a big screwdriver and I ->managet to gouge the wheels. I refuse to put them back on until I know I can ->get them off without damaging them again. Any ideas? Also, does anyone know of ->a source for cheap replacement lug nuts (Alcoa insists I use only their ->two-piece system) for these wheels if I decide to keep the hub caps off? Alcoa ->wants $3 a piece for the lug nuts and covers which totals somehwere near $190.
->Seems a little outrageous to me.
->
->Todd
->muccilli rci.rutgers.edu
->
I have a '95 F250 4x4 supercab Powerstroke, and have had what I think are the same problems pulling off the hubcaps on the aluminum wheels.
My truck has small 'doughnut' hubcaps. I used a large screwdriver the first time, and mangled the edges of the plastic hubcap. What seems to work very well is the 'L' shaped lug wrench that is under the hood next to the jack, at least on my '95. Since that is a pain to get out, I found one laying around from another vehicle.

rick calder


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 17 10:55:06 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Tonnage- followup

To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi Guys (& Gal),

Thanks for all of the replies to my tonnage inquiry. It doesn't seem as though it relates to tongue weight, since the F150 is not rated for 1000 pounds tongue load, nor the F350 2000 pounds.

It doesn't relate to cargo weight, since the F150 can carry over 2000 pounds and the F350 almost 4000.

There was a post which was kind of neat which somehow related the F-designation as a towing weight, which made some sense, but of course my original question was about the tonnage designation, not Ford's designations.

I am starting to believe this had meaning once, but may be obsolete. We could probably benefit from an old-timer who was around when this nomenclature started...

Thanks,
Jon in Houston
and The Big Red One


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>From rick adc.com Mon Mar 17 10:56:42 1997 From: rick adc.com (Rick Larson)
Subject: Re: Voting Results
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Nick wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> Hi Guys!
> Well I just wanted to say hi to everyone, Does anyone live in
> So. Cal.
> > (I'm in Rancho Cucamonga). I just heard from Rick Larson. What a cool Bro!
>
> Hey Jim, I live in Costa Mesa, Orange County.

I'm in Minneapolis area. It got up in the 30s yesterday and I took the boys sleding in my FORD truck. Those old wooden toboggans fit nicely in a 8' bed.

rick
'66 Mustang garage shelf (originally from San Diego CA) '71 F100 daily driver (originally from St. Paul MN) --
Rick Larson rick adc.com Minneapolis


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 17 10:57:38 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Re: Fords are used more...

To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Maybe, but that's because Fords are on the road so much more, and so much
>longer! Can't get in a accident, if it's up on a rack! :)

I just read (in 4Wheel & Off Road, I think) that F350s are driven more miles per year on average than any other vehicle (I guess OTR trucks were excluded).

And of course, many are used as wreckers to recover broken vehicles of more lowly marques!

Jon in Houston
and The Big Red One


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 17 11:26:34 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Re: F250 body style

To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Don't know this for a fact but this was discussed about a month ago
>and if I recall correctly the F250 will receive the new body style
>for 98. It may be in the Feb archives (on the web site).

The rumor is that the light-duty, light-duty trucks (F150, F250) will continue along the current space capsule lines, while the heavy-duty, light-duty trucks (F250HD, F350) will be differentiated with more work-like styling, whatever that means.

Of course you are aware that the '97 F250 looks just like the '97 F150 (with minor bumper/grille alteration) and the F250HD and the F350 look the same...

Regards,
Jon in Houston
and the Big Red One


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 17 11:26:35 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Powerstroke extreme cold starts - reply To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I am sorry I lost the original post due to technical difficulties...

I agree with the assessment that the idle-up kit won't help at startup time, but it may help over the long-run by elevating engine temperatures faster, thereby limiting the amount of time the pushrods and valves have to run through goo instead of nice, hot oil. This should reduce wear.

I wonder if you are using the correct grade of oil (sorry to ask, but very important) and obviously, a synthetic is indicated at the temps you related (-35 to -45 degrees).

Regards,
Jon in Houston
and the Big Red One


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>From usfmdspr ibmmail.com Mon Mar 17 12:04:20 1997 From: "RANDY ZEILINGER (USFMDSPR) e-mail(usfmdspr ibmmail.com)" Subject: Re: 98 model body styles
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Trying to resend this post...Charlie, if it comes to your address let me know & I will quit trying to use this glorified calculator.

~~~~~~NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!~~~~~~ (313) 39-02922 FAX (313) 845-5383 Pager (810) 890-3665 FoMoCo Vehicle Operations Maufacturing Engineer---Powertrain
1999 F-150, F-250, SVE, EXPEDITION and NAVIGATOR trucks.
*** Forwarding note from RZEILING--DRBN004 03/17/97 10:08 *** To: I2328401--IBMMAIL

From: RANDY ZEILINGER (RZEILING) e-mail(usfmdspr ibmmail.com) subject: Re: 98 model body styles Here is the skinny on the 98 and 99 F-series pick-ups: 1998 F-150 "new" body style 1998 F-250 "new" body style (note CVW under 8500 lbs) 1998 F-250 "old" body style (heavy duty & diesels) 1998 F-350 "old" body style

1999 F-150/F-250(under 8500) Freshened body 1999 F-250 (over 8500) Brand new body style

Hope this helps.

Randy Z.

~~~~~~NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!~~~~~~ (313) 39-02922 FAX (313) 845-5383 Pager (810) 890-3665 FoMoCo Vehicle Operations Maufacturing Engineer---Powertrain
1999 F-150, F-250, SVE, EXPEDITION and NAVIGATOR trucks.
*** Forwarding note from I2328401--IBMMAIL 03/16/97 16:40 *** Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:34:02 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: 98 model body styles To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 04:23 PM 3/16/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello to the list.
>
>
>Does anyone know if the 98 model year F-250's will be the new body style. If
>not, what year will the new style emerge.
>
>thanks in advanc
>
>
Don't know this for a fact but this was discussed about a month ago and if I recall correctly the F250 will receive the new body style for 98. It may be in the Feb archives (on the web site).



-Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
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>From Kalohe ctwok.com Mon Mar 17 16:02:04 1997 From: Kalohe ctwok.com
Subject:
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I own a 1981 Ford F-150 Ext Cab P/U. My headlights turn off and on after they have been on for 15 to 20 minutes.
This does not require motion. In the driveway at idle they do the same. The truck can be running for a long time before and that does not matter. The headlights are the only thing to dim or go out. The parking lights and dash lights stay on. I am confussed and cannot find the answer to this. If anyone has a cure or even a guess please let me know. THANKS E-Mail kalohe ctwok.com



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>From mmiller dryden.net Mon Mar 17 19:18:11 1997 From: "Mitch Miller" Subject: Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

"Both hub bearing-races on the rear axle of the '46 pickup have seen better times. Problem is, how do you replace them?

They look like they are part of the axle housing."


Having heard no comments about this problem, I assume that I am correct and the races are not replaceable. So I am going to turn out the ID of a new race and press it over the old race. Since this is changing the ID of the bearing, I have ordered new bearings that I will press into the hub (after the hub is turned out 1/8"). This modern exchange should work. The only snag is that I will need to have a machine shop turn out the axle-race every time it is replaced. (Or at least when my kids might have to change them in 20 years).


Mitch Miller
mmiller dryden.net


























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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Mon Mar 17 19:52:23 1997 From: "jason wodack" Subject: None
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I've got an 84 Bronco II, and when it gets warmed up It kills when I put it in reverse. after I let it cool down it starts right beck up and runs fine. There's no problem at all in any forward gears. I'm at a loss to find whats wrong with it. any suggestions would be appreciated.

Jason Wodack


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>From jks2x faraday.clas.virginia.edu Mon Mar 17 20:46:24 1997 From: "Jason K. Schechner" Subject: Re: 460 or 351W
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

There are a number of 460-powered Broncos onthe late-model Bronco list and the mileage varies, though it's usually not too much worse than what they got with a 351M or 400.
The 351W is a more efficient engine than the 351M so you will notice a drop.
BTW: Where do you live? If you don't want that 460 I may be interested in it - I've thought about getting one for one of my Broncos.
Thanks and hope this helps.

-Jason
bigbroncos mailing list owner

--
Jason K. Schechner
Unix Sysadmin - Oracle Corp


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>From jcthorne flash.net Mon Mar 17 21:39:41 1997 From: "James C. Thorne, P.E." Subject: 302's
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>
> So here's the question that no one on Fordnatics could (or would) answer:
> how does the 302 in my F150 differ from the 302 in my Mustang--other than
> the obvious different air intake (twin snorkel or twin MAF's or something)
> and the speed density FI system still retained on the trucks while all cars
> went to Mass Air in 87 or 88. So are the block/cam/heads the same as the
> Mustang 302 thru 94??? Any experts or opinions out there?



The Mustang and truck 302s share very little the last couple of years of production. The blocks are different, the Mustang is roller cam and the truck is hydraulic. This means the cams are different as well. The heads could be the same on some of the Mustang GTs but the cobras used a varient of the GT-40 iron head. Did this answer your question?

James Thorne


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>From kpayne mindspring.com Mon Mar 17 22:17:30 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 07:18 PM 3/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>"Both hub bearing-races on the rear axle of the '46 pickup have seen better
>times. Problem is, how do you replace them?
>
>They look like they are part of the axle housing."
>
>
>Having heard no comments about this problem, I assume that I am correct and
>the races are not replaceable. So I am going to turn out the ID of a new
>race and press it over the old race. Since this is changing the ID of the
>bearing, I have ordered new bearings that I will press into the hub (after
>the hub is turned out 1/8"). This modern exchange should work. The only
>snag is that I will need to have a machine shop turn out the axle-race
>every time it is replaced. (Or at least when my kids might have to change
>them in 20 years).
>

I emailed you that I might have a solution for you, well I was wrong. I have a very thick ford truck repair manual that predates my truck (1967) and I thought it covered yours. Unfortunately it only covers 1953-1963.
Good to see that you did find a solution of sorts.



-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
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>From bigric mail.utexas.edu Mon Mar 17 22:41:07 1997 From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico) Subject: RE: carb woes
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> > >
starts fine, kicks up to fast idle and goes for a bit. As soon as the choke heater warms up, the idle speed drops down and the idle is awful, almost dead. I have to keep revving the engine to keep it going. If I hold the
You can adjust the duration of the choke to correct this. To adjust this, locate the choke cap (the black cap with the wires). Loosen the screws that hold this cap down. O yeah. Warm up the engine to normal temperature and let it idle. Turn the cap slowly towards the "RICH" position (it should be marked on the cap) until you see the lever from the choke start to move.
Then back the mark on the cap to the last closest mark on the housing and tighten the screws. If this still leaves you with the same problem, move it forward one notch at a time until the problem goes away.idle corrects itself.

> > >
in it, at about 50 or so mph in 4th (top) gear, the engine blips and backfires. If I gear up to 3rd and rev the engine high, the problem ceases.

Had this same problem on my '68 F100 360. Replaced bent pushrods, very worn distributor and coil, very leaky brake booster (you can hear it hiss), and slackened timing chain. You probably won't have to worry too much about the timing chain. Each of these things helped a great deal but I still had the problem, especially when cold. I replaced the Bosch Platinum plugs with plain Autolites and the problem almost disappeared. To top off the job, I reinstalled the original air cleaner setup with the heat riser that I had removed in favor of a small, washable Edelbrock Proflow. I have no more carb backfire.

> > >
On downhill deceleration there is some backfiring in the exhaust. Not excessively loud. I run manifolds, duals (short, exhausting in front of the back tires) and 'turbo' mufflers.

I still get this. I just accept it.

bigric mail.utexas.edu
'68 Ford F100 Custom Cab Stepside 360
'66 VW Beetle 1300
bigric mail.utexas.edu



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>From bigric mail.utexas.edu Mon Mar 17 22:47:43 1997 From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico) Subject: RE: steering rag joint repair
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> > >
I noticed my '71 F100 rag joint is shot. The steering is very notchy. Has anyone replaced this and is it difficult?

Can I get new rubber/fiber/??? from a local auto parts place? Cut a piece out of an old tire :-)?


Had the same problem on my '67 F100, but it had P/S. The joint should be readily available at any auto parts store. I actually had a shop put mine in (I was so young and inexperienced) but the mechanic didn't align the upper and the lower half of the column perfectly when he bolted the joint in. The result was smooth steering that got very hard to turn every turn but then almost pulled itself through the next turn. Driveable but dangerous. To correct it, he just loosened the joint bolts and aligned the columns a little better. I haven't done this myself, so if it isn't obvious right off, you may just have to take it around the block to feel if it's aligned or not.

bigric mail.utexas.edu
'68 Ford F100 Custom Cab Stepside 360
'66 VW Beetle 1300
bigric mail.utexas.edu



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>From jstrigas worldnet.att.net Mon Mar 17 22:53:59 1997 From: "Jim" Subject: Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> From: Mitch Miller Monday, March 17, 1997 4:18 PM

> "Both hub bearing-races on the rear axle of the '46 pickup have seen better
> times. Problem is, how do you replace them?

I don't know anything about '46 rear axles, But I'll reply with: On Pan Head Crankshafts brg's, the outer race is hard chromed to the case. Friends have had this area rehardchromed. I think you can do the same, but then again I don't know a thing I'm talking about! The best thing that can happen, The people that know something about old rear ends will respond now, ;)
I hope this helps. if I'm right, I think it can be done for a fraction of the cost! Good luck!

Jim Strigas jstrigas worldnet.att.net
"73" Ford F100 (piece a %*&#^ Love it, I Just Love it!) "89" Ford Aerostar (a Frameless Hussy, But a good ol Gal.) "83" Yamaha XJ900RK (Best Gift of my life! From my best friends! RSCL) "86" Honda GoldWing GL1200 (OK, this part goes here, and this... this... I think goes on the truck.)

Be Cool Daddy-O {B-)>


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>From rmeier connect.net Mon Mar 17 23:36:44 1997 From: rmeier connect.net (Roger Meier)
Subject: Tonnage
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>I am starting to believe this had meaning once, but may be obsolete. > We could
>probably benefit from an old-timer who was around when this >nomenclature
>started...
>
>Thanks,
>Jon in Houston

Jon,
I am not sure I qualify as an "old timer" (I have been working on "dirty old man" for a while), but I do remember about this back in the early 50's when my dad was a Ford dealer. The F-"X" was the design load capacity of the vehicle. An F-1 had a load capacity of 1/2 ton or 1000 lbs. Yes it would carry more without breaking instantly but 1/2 ton was it's rated load capacity. F-2 was a 3/4 ton, F-3 was a 1 ton, F-4 was a 1 1/2 ton, and F-5 was a 2 ton load truck. I don't remember whether the F-6 was a 2 1/2 or 3 ton truck. In some states (Kansas being one of them) this designation was used to determine how much the license plates would cost each year.
Regards,
Roger Meier



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>From rmeier connect.net Mon Mar 17 23:35:59 1997 From: rmeier connect.net (Roger Meier)
Subject: Rear axle bearing problems
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Mitch,
I looked in the 38-44 parts book (the 21-C chassis which is what you have, remained unchanged from 42 to 47) and although it has very few illustrations there are separate parts listed for the bearing, the hub, the axle housing, and the axle. I would guess based on this that the bearing is separable from the axle, and the axle housing. I do not know how to remove it. The parts book illustration indicates that the axle will not come out of the differential without taking the differential apart, however the hub should come off the end of the axle after the nut is removed. Please let us know how you get it apart, I will have to do this on mine one of these years.
Regards,
Roger Meier



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>From bigric mail.utexas.edu Tue Mar 18 00:54:57 1997 From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico) Subject: Re: 71 F100 engine swap
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

william enox wrote:
>>I've got a '71 F100 stripper with the 250 six and 3 speed on the
>>column with overdrive. The engine is dead and I'm looking at putting
>>another engine in. The two otions I'm thinking about are a 300 six >>out

>IHMO I would opt for the V8 - never tried to put a 4bbl on a 300 six
>although it could be done with some imagination.
Would this actually work? Two cylinders would get their own barrells while the other four had to split the remaining two barrells. Or am I just not thinking straight tonight?

>If you are looking for pure grunt - go to the big FE blocks like a
>390, 429, 460. Have a friend who has a 460/C6 in a 73 F250 and he can pull
>some real big stumps with it, yet it is mild mannered on the road.
Excellent advice, except the 429/460 are not FEs, they are the 385 family (from the 3.85" bore).

bigric mail.utexas.edu
'68 Ford F100 Custom Cab Stepside 360
'66 VW Beetle 1300
bigric mail.utexas.edu



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>From Doug_Neely bc.sympatico.ca Tue Mar 18 01:28:25 1997 From: Doug Neely Subject: Re:
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Kalohe ctwok.com wrote:
>
> I own a 1981 Ford F-150 Ext Cab P/U. My headlights
> turn off and on after they have been on for 15 to 20 minutes.
> This does not require motion. In the driveway at idle they do the
> same. The truck can be running for a long time before and that
> does not matter. The headlights are the only thing to dim or go
> out. The parking lights and dash lights stay on. I am confussed
> and cannot find the answer to this. If anyone has a cure or even a
> guess please let me know. THANKS
> E-Mail kalohe ctwok.com
>


Yo Kalohe,
Had the same problem with my 71 250, turned out to be a set of contact points inside the headlight switch, the only cure was to replace the switch.Mine used to turn off at the most inoportune time like the dark and stormy night when you least expect it
Cheers
Doug


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>From sherwin expert.cc.purdue.edu Tue Mar 18 09:10:29 1997 From: Gregory Sherwin Subject: T-Birds
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi all,
I haven't been around lately but is it true that Ford is going to do away with the Thunderbird.

Greg
84 F150 4X4 351W
66 Mustang Coupe


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>From williame why.net Tue Mar 18 09:11:46 1997 From: william enox
Subject: Re: 71 F100 engine swap
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Richard Cherico wrote:
>
> william enox wrote:
> >>I've got a '71 F100 stripper with the 250 six and 3 speed on the
> >>column with overdrive. The engine is dead and I'm looking at putting
> >>another engine in. The two otions I'm thinking about are a 300 six >>out
>
> >IHMO I would opt for the V8 - never tried to put a 4bbl on a 300 six
> >although it could be done with some imagination.
> Would this actually work? Two cylinders would get their own barrells while
> the other four had to split the remaining two barrells. Or am I just not
> thinking straight tonight?

The Intake for the 6 is setup like the stock Intake. There is a common plenum
that all the carb ports go to. It should work fine. I'd rather have a 3x1 bbl
intake but I haven't found one. Offenhouser claims 50 hp from just the intake and 115 hp
with intake headers and a cam. Can anyone tell me how much a '80 300 puts out? With out a converter that is. either way 200 hp doesn't sound to hard to get with lots of low end torque.

> >If you are looking for pure grunt - go to the big FE blocks like a
> >390, 429, 460. Have a friend who has a 460/C6 in a 73 F250 and he can pull
> >some real big stumps with it, yet it is mild mannered on the road.
> Excellent advice, except the 429/460 are not FEs, they are the 385 family
> (from the 3.85" bore).

I was thinking about putting a 460 in but I didn't feel like doing that much work.
It would also have cost more and used more gas.



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>From Dan_Dusing-EENG01 email.mot.com Tue Mar 18 10:01:23 1997 From: Dan Dusing-EENG01 Subject: RE: T-Birds
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Yes. Sad to say they are.

But when Ford went to the "passenger" version of the T-Bird, the car basically died then anyway. If Ford had kept it as the original "sports" two-seater version as introduced in '55, the Thunderbird may still have been a profitable undertaking today.

Just MHO.

Dan
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From: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com INTERNET on Tue, Mar 18, 1997 9:32 AM Subject: T-Birds

Hi all,
I haven't been around lately but is it true that Ford is going to do away with the Thunderbird.

Greg
84 F150 4X4 351W
66 Mustang Coupe


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>From GumboBoy aol.com Tue Mar 18 11:22:46 1997 From: GumboBoy aol.com
Subject: Re: T-Birds
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Dan Dusing writes

:But when Ford went to the "passenger" version of the T-Bird, the car :basically died then anyway. If Ford had kept it as the original "sports" :two-seater version as introduced in '55, the Thunderbird may still have been

:a profitable undertaking today.

Hey Dan, do you have ESP

I agree with you, but know we can say. IT'S ABOUT TIME! ! !

Joe


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>From PACEG1 WPGATE.UOFS.EDU Tue Mar 18 12:09:49 1997 From: Glen Pace Subject: Bronco??
X-VMS-To: in%"fordtrucks lofcom.com"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I herd a rumor today that FORD was going to produce the bronco again and it will be similar to the old early broncos. It will compete with the jeep. Is there any turth to this rumor?
Glen

96 F-350 4x4
77 F-250 4x4



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>From bubmrtn jane.penn.com Tue Mar 18 16:16:31 1997 From: Jonathan Martin Subject: Re: T-Birds
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Gregory Sherwin wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I haven't been around lately but is it true that Ford is going to
> do away with the Thunderbird.
>
> Greg
> 84 F150 4X4 351W
> 66 Mustang Coupe
>
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Yes they are, but their going to come back with a new one in 2000. I think either that or 2002 I can't remember.


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>From marko helix.net Tue Mar 18 19:38:50 1997 From: marko helix.net (marko maryniak)
Subject: Re:
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> I own a 1981 Ford F-150 Ext Cab P/U. My headlights
>turn off and on after they have been on for 15 to 20 minutes.
>This does not require motion. In the driveway at idle they do the
>same. The truck can be running for a long time before and that
>does not matter. The headlights are the only thing to dim or go
>out. The parking lights and dash lights stay on. I am confussed
>and cannot find the answer to this. If anyone has a cure or even a
>guess please let me know. THANKS
>E-Mail kalohe ctwok.com
>

Hey, um, kalohe!

Check your headlight relay, which is cheap and easy to fix. If this is not the problem, check the headlight switch. It really sounds like the relay, sometimes grounding, sometimes not, possibly overheating too. Since your truck is an 81 the relay may not be grounded properly on the fender.

This should solve the problem. If it doesn't, call ghostbusters! : )


marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

71 F250 4x4




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>From kpayne mindspring.com Tue Mar 18 20:25:24 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Information for digest format members To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I received email from a couple of members asking why they could not post to the list. Seems that they received the digest format of the list and they were trying to post to FORDTRUCKS-DIGEST lofcom.com

While this seems like the logical thing to do, it doesn't work. All email, whether from standard or digest format members, should be sent to: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Unfortunately when someone tries to send email to the digest address they receive an email message that implies that they do no have posting access to the list - this created the impression that they were kicked off the Ford Trucks list.

Hope this message helps to prevent future problems.

-Ken Payne
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>From st0478 student-mail.jsu.edu Tue Mar 18 20:39:28 1997 From: RL
Subject: Re: Back up lights& other ?s
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I got a question concering the back up lights on my 71 F-100. I don't know much on cars but I plan to learn something. Anyway the lights didn't work so I bought replacement bulbs. The ones I took out looked like they burned out as they had the black coating on the inside. I figure either a fuse is blown or the wiring is bad cause the lights still don't work. I'm going to replace my driverside fender and door and am wondering what yrs would work. I can tell the differnt yrs by the looking at the grills and where the parking lights located. I figure I could use the 68's up to 71's and myabe a little after that but I'm not for sure. My last question is I was going to put on an aftermarket tow hitch and was looking around in Wal-mart and found on but it was only for 1973 and after. Why is that? Did they change the frame or something?
thanks
Ryan






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>From kpayne mindspring.com Tue Mar 18 21:07:57 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Back up lights& other ?s
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 08:39 PM 3/18/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I got a question concering the back up lights on my 71 F-100. I don't know
>much on cars but I plan to learn something. Anyway the lights didn't work
>so I bought replacement bulbs. The ones I took out looked like they burned
>out as they had the black coating on the inside. I figure either a fuse is
>blown or the wiring is bad cause the lights still don't work. I'm going to
>replace my driverside fender and door and am wondering what yrs would
>work. I can tell the differnt yrs by the looking at the grills and where
>the parking lights located. I figure I could use the 68's up to 71's and
>myabe a little after that but I'm not for sure. My last question is I was
>going to put on an aftermarket tow hitch and was looking around in
>Wal-mart and found on but it was only for 1973 and after. Why is that? Did
>they change the frame or something?
> thanks
> Ryan

First, you can use parts from 67-72 on your truck. The only differences are minor trim stuff (for the most part). As to the backup lights, crawl under the truck and look for an electrical wire (not the speedo wire) coming out of the transmission. There is a switch where the wire plugs into the transmission. Most likely this switch needs replacing. To test: take the unit out, pull the two wires off and strap them to each other.
If its a one wire switch, ground it to the frame. Have someone turn on the ignition (but don't start it) and the backup lights should come on. If not, time to get out ye'ole multi-meter and hunt down a broken connection (not fun.)

Lastly, about the hitch. The tow hitch is most likely just covering all the bases by trying to avoid people who can't work well with tools or use a little ingenuity. 73 and after trucks have basically the same frame in the rear except for a minor difference in width. Bumbers from 67-72 and 73+ are interchangable, they just may need a shim or two to get them to fit right. The same probably applies to the hitch. I'd get the hitch and give it a shot, you may need to get slightly longer bolts and a few washers or shims but it should fit ok. If not, just return it.

Good luck,


-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
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