Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:37:58 -0500 (EST) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
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Subject: fordtrucks Digest v97 n0024
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Volume 97 Number 0024 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

If you follow the items of interest link on the web site
> Be careful, some states don't allow below 30%. I'd call your
Re: F[23]50 hubcaps
Tonnage- followup
Re: Voting Results
Re: Fords are used more...
Re: F250 body style
Powerstroke extreme cold starts - reply
Re: 98 model body styles
subject: Re: 98 model body styles
Re: 98 model body styles

Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble
None
Re: 460 or 351W
302's
Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble
RE: carb woes
RE: steering rag joint repair
Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble
Tonnage
Rear axle bearing problems
Re: 71 F100 engine swap
Re:
T-Birds
Re: 71 F100 engine swap
RE: T-Birds
T-Birds
Re: T-Birds
Bronco??
Re: T-Birds
Re:
Information for digest format members
Re: Back up lights& other ?s
Re: Back up lights& other ?s
Re: Information for digest format members


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>From payne platinum.com Mon Mar 17 10:06:55 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: If you follow the items of interest link on the web site To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

If you follow the items of interest link on the web site (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks) you'll find a link to the national database which contains recall information.


>>> RL 03/16/97 04:04pm >>> Hi, I just joined the list and my name is Ryan. Anyway I wanted to ask
this question about 84 Broncos. We used to have one but sadly it burned
because of carb problems. My dad bought it new from the dealer in VA.
And
always had problems with the engine(mostly carb). Were the 84s ever recalled because of this or did ford just sweep it under the carpet?
I had been wondering for some time and thought someone one here might now.
I own a 71 F100 and a 71 Torino. thanks, Ryan






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>From payne platinum.com Mon Mar 17 10:12:31 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: Be careful, some states don't allow below 30%. I'd call your To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Be careful, some states don't allow below 30%. I'd call your state patrol to verify it for your state.

>>> Eddie Torres 03/16/97 11:51pm >>>
I am going to get my Ranger windows tinted, but cannot decide which tint.
Several people I talked to said the 5%, (I guess right above limo tint),
would be dark enough. Others however, said go for the limo tint.
What do
you think? And how much will the tint itself cost, on average? How much
should I pay someone to do it? And, if I choose to do it myself, any hints?

TIA




1997 Ford Ranger XLT
|---------------------------------------------------------------| |a.k.a. | |Eddie Torres NetRanger ThePentagon.com | |Need a homepage? I will design and host it! Email me for info| |---------------------------------------------------------------|



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>From rick rick.atlantaga.ncr.com Mon Mar 17 10:34:51 1997 From: Rick.Calder AtlantaGA.ncr.com (Rick Calder) Subject: Re: F[23]50 hubcaps
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

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->From muccilli rci.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 13 19:56:50 1997 ->From: Todd Muccilli ->Subject: 1978 F250 Ranger 4x4
->To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
->
->For the obligatory question, though: Does anyone know how to remove the hubcaps ->on the Alcoa aluminum wheels that come as part of the XLT package on the 1997 ->(and a few years prior) F-250s and F-350s? I used a big screwdriver and I ->managet to gouge the wheels. I refuse to put them back on until I know I can ->get them off without damaging them again. Any ideas? Also, does anyone know of ->a source for cheap replacement lug nuts (Alcoa insists I use only their ->two-piece system) for these wheels if I decide to keep the hub caps off? Alcoa ->wants $3 a piece for the lug nuts and covers which totals somehwere near $190.
->Seems a little outrageous to me.
->
->Todd
->muccilli rci.rutgers.edu
->
I have a '95 F250 4x4 supercab Powerstroke, and have had what I think are the same problems pulling off the hubcaps on the aluminum wheels.
My truck has small 'doughnut' hubcaps. I used a large screwdriver the first time, and mangled the edges of the plastic hubcap. What seems to work very well is the 'L' shaped lug wrench that is under the hood next to the jack, at least on my '95. Since that is a pain to get out, I found one laying around from another vehicle.

rick calder


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 17 10:55:06 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Tonnage- followup

To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi Guys (& Gal),

Thanks for all of the replies to my tonnage inquiry. It doesn't seem as though it relates to tongue weight, since the F150 is not rated for 1000 pounds tongue load, nor the F350 2000 pounds.

It doesn't relate to cargo weight, since the F150 can carry over 2000 pounds and the F350 almost 4000.

There was a post which was kind of neat which somehow related the F-designation as a towing weight, which made some sense, but of course my original question was about the tonnage designation, not Ford's designations.

I am starting to believe this had meaning once, but may be obsolete. We could probably benefit from an old-timer who was around when this nomenclature started...

Thanks,
Jon in Houston
and The Big Red One


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>From rick adc.com Mon Mar 17 10:56:42 1997 From: rick adc.com (Rick Larson)
Subject: Re: Voting Results
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Nick wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> Hi Guys!
> Well I just wanted to say hi to everyone, Does anyone live in
> So. Cal.
> > (I'm in Rancho Cucamonga). I just heard from Rick Larson. What a cool Bro!
>
> Hey Jim, I live in Costa Mesa, Orange County.

I'm in Minneapolis area. It got up in the 30s yesterday and I took the boys sleding in my FORD truck. Those old wooden toboggans fit nicely in a 8' bed.

rick
'66 Mustang garage shelf (originally from San Diego CA) '71 F100 daily driver (originally from St. Paul MN) --
Rick Larson rick adc.com Minneapolis


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 17 10:57:38 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Re: Fords are used more...

To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Maybe, but that's because Fords are on the road so much more, and so much
>longer! Can't get in a accident, if it's up on a rack! :)

I just read (in 4Wheel & Off Road, I think) that F350s are driven more miles per year on average than any other vehicle (I guess OTR trucks were excluded).

And of course, many are used as wreckers to recover broken vehicles of more lowly marques!

Jon in Houston
and The Big Red One


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 17 11:26:34 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Re: F250 body style

To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Don't know this for a fact but this was discussed about a month ago
>and if I recall correctly the F250 will receive the new body style
>for 98. It may be in the Feb archives (on the web site).

The rumor is that the light-duty, light-duty trucks (F150, F250) will continue along the current space capsule lines, while the heavy-duty, light-duty trucks (F250HD, F350) will be differentiated with more work-like styling, whatever that means.

Of course you are aware that the '97 F250 looks just like the '97 F150 (with minor bumper/ grille alteration) and the F250HD and the F350 look the same...

Regards,
Jon in Houston
and the Big Red One


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>From JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM Mon Mar 17 11:26:35 1997 From: JLINETT SYSUBMC.BMC.COM
Subject: Powerstroke extreme cold starts - reply To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I am sorry I lost the original post due to technical difficulties...

I agree with the assessment that the idle-up kit won't help at startup time, but it may help over the long-run by elevating engine temperatures faster, thereby limiting the amount of time the pushrods and valves have to run through goo instead of nice, hot oil. This should reduce wear.

I wonder if you are using the correct grade of oil (sorry to ask, but very important) and obviously, a synthetic is indicated at the temps you related (-35 to -45 degrees).

Regards,
Jon in Houston
and the Big Red One


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>From usfmdspr ibmmail.com Mon Mar 17 12:04:20 1997 From: "RANDY ZEILINGER (USFMDSPR) e-mail(usfmdspr ibmmail.com)" Subject: Re: 98 model body styles
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Trying to resend this post...Charlie, if it comes to your address let me know & I will quit trying to use this glorified calculator.

~~~~~~NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!~~~~~~ (313) 39-02922 FAX (313) 845-5383 Pager (810) 890-3665 FoMoCo Vehicle Operations Maufacturing Engineer---Powertrain
1999 F-150, F-250, SVE, EXPEDITION and NAVIGATOR trucks.
*** Forwarding note from RZEILING--DRBN004 03/17/97 10:08 *** To: I2328401--IBMMAIL

From: RANDY ZEILINGER (RZEILING) e-mail(usfmdspr ibmmail.com) subject: Re: 98 model body styles Here is the skinny on the 98 and 99 F-series pick-ups: 1998 F-150 "new" body style 1998 F-250 "new" body style (note CVW under 8500 lbs) 1998 F-250 "old" body style (heavy duty & diesels) 1998 F-350 "old" body style

1999 F-150/F-250(under 8500) Freshened body 1999 F-250 (over 8500) Brand new body style

Hope this helps.

Randy Z.

~~~~~~NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!~~~~~~ (313) 39-02922 FAX (313) 845-5383 Pager (810) 890-3665 FoMoCo Vehicle Operations Maufacturing Engineer---Powertrain
1999 F-150, F-250, SVE, EXPEDITION and NAVIGATOR trucks.
*** Forwarding note from I2328401--IBMMAIL 03/16/97 16:40 *** Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:34:02 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: 98 model body styles To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 04:23 PM 3/16/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello to the list.
>
>
>Does anyone know if the 98 model year F-250's will be the new body style. If
>not, what year will the new style emerge.
>
>thanks in advanc
>
>
Don't know this for a fact but this was discussed about a month ago and if I recall correctly the F250 will receive the new body style for 98. It may be in the Feb archives (on the web site).



-Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
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>From Kalohe ctwok.com Mon Mar 17 16:02:04 1997 From: Kalohe ctwok.com
Subject:
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I own a 1981 Ford F-150 Ext Cab P/U. My headlights turn off and on after they have been on for 15 to 20 minutes.
This does not require motion. In the driveway at idle they do the same. The truck can be running for a long time before and that does not matter. The headlights are the only thing to dim or go out. The parking lights and dash lights stay on. I am confussed and cannot find the answer to this. If anyone has a cure or even a guess please let me know. THANKS E-Mail kalohe ctwok.com



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>From mmiller dryden.net Mon Mar 17 19:18:11 1997 From: "Mitch Miller" Subject: Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

"Both hub bearing-races on the rear axle of the '46 pickup have seen better times. Problem is, how do you replace them?

They look like they are part of the axle housing."


Having heard no comments about this problem, I assume that I am correct and the races are not replaceable. So I am going to turn out the ID of a new race and press it over the old race. Since this is changing the ID of the bearing, I have ordered new bearings that I will press into the hub (after the hub is turned out 1/8"). This modern exchange should work. The only snag is that I will need to have a machine shop turn out the axle-race every time it is replaced. (Or at least when my kids might have to change them in 20 years).


Mitch Miller
mmiller dryden.net


























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>From wodackjc-stu mlc-wels.edu Mon Mar 17 19:52:23 1997 From: "jason wodack" Subject: None
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I've got an 84 Bronco II, and when it gets warmed up It kills when I put it in reverse. after I let it cool down it starts right beck up and runs fine. There's no problem at all in any forward gears. I'm at a loss to find whats wrong with it. any suggestions would be appreciated.

Jason Wodack


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>From jks2x faraday.clas.virginia.edu Mon Mar 17 20:46:24 1997 From: "Jason K. Schechner" Subject: Re: 460 or 351W
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

There are a number of 460-powered Broncos onthe late-model Bronco list and the mileage varies, though it's usually not too much worse than what they got with a 351M or 400.
The 351W is a more efficient engine than the 351M so you will notice a drop.
BTW: Where do you live? If you don't want that 460 I may be interested in it - I've thought about getting one for one of my Broncos.
Thanks and hope this helps.

-Jason
bigbroncos mailing list owner

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Jason K. Schechner
Unix Sysadmin - Oracle Corp


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>From jcthorne flash.net Mon Mar 17 21:39:41 1997 From: "James C. Thorne, P.E." Subject: 302's
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>
> So here's the question that no one on Fordnatics could (or would) answer:
> how does the 302 in my F150 differ from the 302 in my Mustang--other than
> the obvious different air intake (twin snorkel or twin MAF's or something)
> and the speed density FI system still retained on the trucks while all cars
> went to Mass Air in 87 or 88. So are the block/cam/heads the same as the
> Mustang 302 thru 94??? Any experts or opinions out there?



The Mustang and truck 302s share very little the last couple of years of production. The blocks are different, the Mustang is roller cam and the truck is hydraulic. This means the cams are different as well. The heads could be the same on some of the Mustang GTs but the cobras used a varient of the GT-40 iron head. Did this answer your question?

James Thorne


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>From kpayne mindspring.com Mon Mar 17 22:17:30 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: '46 rear axle bearing race trouble To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 07:18 PM 3/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>"Both hub bearing-races on the rear axle of the '46 pickup have seen better
>times. Problem is, how do you replace them?
>
>They look like they are part of the axle housing."
>
>
>Having heard no comments about this problem, I assume that I am correct and
>the races are not replaceable. So I am going to turn out the ID of a new
>race and press it over the old race. Since this is changing the ID of the
>bearing, I have ordered new bearings that I will press into the hub (after
>the hub is turned out 1/8"). This modern exchange should work. The only
>snag is that I will need to have a machine shop turn out the axle-race
>every time it is replaced. (Or at least when my kids might have to change
>them in 20 years).
>

I emailed you that I might have a solution for you, well I was wrong. I have a very thick ford truck repair manual that predates my truck (1967) and I thought it covered yours. Unfortunately it only covers 1953-1963.
Good to see that you did find a solution of sorts.



-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks



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>From bigric mail.utexas.edu Mon Mar 17 22:41:07 1997 From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico) Subject: RE: carb woes
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> > >
starts fine, kicks up to fast idle and goes for a bit. As soon as the choke heater warms up, the idle speed drops down and the idle is awful, almost dead. I have to keep revving the engine to keep it going. If I hold the
You can adjust the duration of the choke to correct this. To adjust this, locate the choke cap (the black cap with the wires). Loosen the screws that hold this cap down. O yeah. Warm up the engine to normal temperature and let it idle. Turn the cap slowly towards the "RICH" position (it should be marked on the cap) until you see the lever from the choke start to move.
Then back the mark on the cap to the last closest mark on the housing and tighten the screws. If this still leaves you with the same problem, move it forward one notch at a time until the problem goes away.idle corrects itself.

> > >
in it, at about 50 or so mph in 4th (top) gear, the engine blips and backfires. If I gear up to 3rd and rev the engine high, the problem ceases.

Had this same problem on my '68 F100 360. Replaced bent pushrods, very worn distributor and coil, very leaky brake booster (you can hear it hiss), and slackened timing chain. You probably won't have to worry too much about the timing chain. Each of these things helped a great deal but I still had the problem, especially when cold. I replaced the Bosch Platinum plugs with plain Autolites and the problem almost disappeared. To top off the job, I reinstalled the original air cleaner setup with the heat riser that I had removed in favor of a small, washable Edelbrock Proflow. I have no more carb backfire.....

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