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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:02:29 -0500 (EST) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
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Volume 97 Number 0013 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

Re: Disc Brakes for 59 Ranchero
Re: Disc Brakes for 59 Ranchero
Re: Disc Brakes for 59 Ranchero
RE: Question on 370 truck motor.
Question on 370 truck motor.
370 scoop!
Need advise on F100 Purchase
unsubscribe fordtrucks
Ballast resistor
Re: Need advise on F100 Purchase


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>From kpayne mindspring.com Sat Mar 1 19:12:26 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Disc Brakes for 59 Ranchero To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 12:17 AM 2/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello All,
>I have a 59 Ranchero with a 352 FE. I would like to convert the front
> brakes to a disc setup prior to building the motor. I have found a few
>kits for this but they are on the pricey side, does anyone have a
>suggestion or recipe for parts swapping from other models, years?
>Thanks, Antonio.
>

Don't take this as fact, but I believe the spindles from a early 70's LDT should work. A good junkyard would know for sure. You'll also need the proportioning valves off the same vehicle plus you'll need to buy a master cylinder for said LDT (it should bolt right onto the Ranchero, Ford master cylinders are pretty universal). I'd recommended buying the new master cylinder instead of taking the junker own as they are only about 25-35 bucks and you'll know it works.

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
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>From kpayne mindspring.com Sat Mar 1 22:00:20 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Disc Brakes for 59 Ranchero To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 07:12 PM 3/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>At 12:17 AM 2/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello All,
>>I have a 59 Ranchero with a 352 FE. I would like to convert the front
>> brakes to a disc setup prior to building the motor. I have found a few
>>kits for this but they are on the pricey side, does anyone have a
>>suggestion or recipe for parts swapping from other models, years?
>>Thanks, Antonio.
>>
>
>Don't take this as fact, but I believe the spindles from a early
>70's LDT should work. A good junkyard would know for sure. You'll
>also need the proportioning valves off the same vehicle plus you'll
>need to buy a master cylinder for said LDT (it should bolt right onto
>the Ranchero, Ford master cylinders are pretty universal). I'd
>recommended buying the new master cylinder instead of taking the
>junker own as they are only about 25-35 bucks and you'll know it works.
>

vvv Woops! Meant LTD, not LDT. And to think, I never did LDS either.
^^^



-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
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>From mcat epix.net Sun Mar 2 08:58:48 1997 From: mcat epix.net
Subject: Re: Disc Brakes for 59 Ranchero To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Afriend of mine used the complete disc set up from a 70-71 ltd. It`s a bolt on conversion. He put this on a 63 Galaxie works like acharm.57-71 big Fords are interchangeable on a lot of front end parts.Have the wrecking yard check interchange for more info but i belive 71-96 may also work a well.
Garry

--- On Sat, 1 Mar 1997 22:00:20 -0500 (EST) Ken Payne wrote:

>At 07:12 PM 3/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>At 12:17 AM 2/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Hello All,
>>>I have a 59 Ranchero with a 352 FE. I would like to convert the front
>>> brakes to a disc setup prior to building the motor. I have found a few
>>>kits for this but they are on the pricey side, does anyone have a
>>>suggestion or recipe for parts swapping from other models, years?
>>>Thanks, Antonio.
>>>
>>
>>Don't take this as fact, but I believe the spindles from a early
>>70's LDT should work. A good junkyard would know for sure. You'll
>>also need the proportioning valves off the same vehicle plus you'll
>>need to buy a master cylinder for said LDT (it should bolt right onto
>>the Ranchero, Ford master cylinders are pretty universal). I'd
>>recommended buying the new master cylinder instead of taking the
>>junker own as they are only about 25-35 bucks and you'll know it works.
>>
>
> vvv
>Woops! Meant LTD, not LDT. And to think, I never did LDS either.
> ^^^
>
>
>
>-Ken Payne
> 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
> List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
> Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe
> form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~kpayne/ford
>
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Garry
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 3/2/97 Time: 8:50:16 AM

427 Fe powered F-100 Wild by design
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>From rmwise rmi.net Sun Mar 2 12:33:50 1997 From: Bob Wise
Subject: RE: Question on 370 truck motor.
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

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Jim Hurd's reply on this subject was pretty good. I've got a '79 F700 = that came with the 370 engine. The 370s are low compression engines, = and came with a two-barrel carb. They were designed for fuel economy = and dependability for long hauls driven by someone who doesn't care much = about the longevity of the engine. I had been running the 370 with a = 460 intake and 4-barrel carb, which helps it a lot. However, the engine = is a dog. It has 7:1 compression (seriously).

I have swapped in a 460 into it. This was a more major project than you = might expect. The 370s were generally mounted in the truck by two = mounts on the bell housing, and a special mount that attaches to a = cast-iron timing cover. Very bizarre, in that the block is not directly = mounted to the frame. Additionally, no 460 block I could find was = machined to accept the 370 timing cover. In other words, the timing = cover machining and bolt patterns are significantly different on the 370 = and the 470, even in the same year. A friend of mine asserts that there = was a "medium-duty" version and a "heavy-duty" version of the 370, and = that the "medium-duty" version sported a more conventional mid-block = engine mount.

Since my F700 has the more unfortunate "heavy-duty" 370, I fabricated a = new cross member, and used engine mounts from a junkyard 1-ton that had = a 460 in it. The 460 in the truck now mounts in the traditional = mid-block point, and also by the original bell-housing mount. I would = consider the conversion a great success. I have most of a 370 sitting = in my shop that I would let go very cheap, if anyone was interested in = it.

I also discovered that the crank machining in 460s comes in two flavors = - automatic and manual. The diameter on the rear of the crank that = accepts the pilot bearing/bushing is smaller on the automatics. Of = course, the only commonly available bearing fits the manual transmission = bearing. I had to custom machine a new bronze bushing that would fit = the automatic crank that I ended up with (the most common kind, by far), = as well as the quite large transmission input shaft diameter.

I ended up using some late-model exhaust manifolds, too. The 370 = manifolds exited in the middle of the engine, which now are blocked by = the new cross-member and motor mounts. A rear-exit manifold for the = passenger side, and a three-quarter exit manifold for the driver side = fit the bill - scavenged off an '80s cube van that had a 460 in it.

I also had another brief adventure that involved putting an older 460 = crank into a new 460 block. This does not work AT ALL. The newer = cranks have a 1/2" smaller counterweight radius, and are compensated = with an external balancer. The older cranks with the larger = counterweight radius won't even rotate in a newer block.

On a side note, the F700 was available at some point with a 534 cu. In. = gas engine. This is a very rare beast.

-Bob Wise
Owner, Apex Performance Solutions
Black Forest, CO

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