Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:47:21 -0500 (EST) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
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Subject: fordtrucks Digest v97 n0010
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Volume 97 Number 0010 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

Re: Late model stuff
RE: Runnin' Hot
RE: Runnin' Hot
Re: looking for stuff
FE parts
> Re: Raising My Ranger
46 pickup?
460 Fuel Economy?! -Reply
Re: Exhaust manifold removal, heater fan motor.. -Reply -Reply
Re: looking for stuff -Reply
Re: 460 Fuel Economy?! -Reply
Sorry about last post!
Late model stuff -Reply
Header Wraps
RE: Runnin' Hot
Re: fordtrucks Digest v97 n0009
Re: Exhaust manifold removal, heater fan motor.. -Reply -Reply
351W in '68 F100
Re: 351W in '68 F100
Re: looking for stuff
330 CID
Re: looking for stuff
Re: Header Wraps
Fw: Fw:Help What year ?
FE and motor sizes
Re: FE and motor sizes
FE and motor sizes -Reply
Original or easy ride


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>From tyounger gulf.csc.UVic.CA Thu Feb 27 01:12:24 1997 From: Tom
Subject: Re: Late model stuff
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 11:37 PM 26/02/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Also has anyone bought and installed the rear disk brake set-up in the SVo
>catalog? The price seems right, but I get the feeling there's more to it
>than I might like. I've already got the monstrous rear drums that come with
>the factory towing package, along with the rear abs. I'd hate to lose that
>capability, I wonder, do Lightnings have rear disks and is/are these the
>same parts?

Although I do not know for sure, but I would imagine swapping to disks on the rear would preserve the ABS. The rear ABS sensor on my truck is in the diff on the driveshaft, so basically all it does is prevent lock-up of the driveshaft. There is nothing ABS about the brakes themselves.
___
TTTTT OO M M The sixth sick shiek's sixth sheep's sick. |~~~|
T O O MM MM o o
T O O M M M Be young, have fun, *
T OO M M and drink lots of beer!!! `-'




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>From cwebb victor1.mscomm.com Thu Feb 27 01:39:06 1997 From: cwebb victor1.mscomm.com (Christopher E. Webb) Subject: RE: Runnin' Hot
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>You're right it sounds like you have a heater core leak for sure. You =
>can unhook and plug your heater hoses if you're losing alot of coolant =
>in your cab. Of course you won't have a heater if you do.

Well, we live in the Mojave desert, so that won't be a problem...for now.

Does your =
> engine cool if you get your truck up to speed and get some air flowing =
>across your radiator?

Yes. As long as the truck is running 40mph or faster, and not doing stop and starts, it's just fine.

I've had clutched fans that I couldn't hear real =
>well when it kicked in. Has yours ever made a loud noise when it kicked =
>in before you noticed it overheating?

Nope. Never heard it. The fan spins freely when the engine is hot, but shut off. The clutch is probably bad. The worst part is, the previous owners had it replaced about 18 months ago.

You might also want to get your =
>radiator checked and see if it's partially clogged,

I'll do that. Should I just have them drain it?



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>From cwebb victor1.mscomm.com Thu Feb 27 01:51:35 1997 From: cwebb victor1.mscomm.com (Christopher E. Webb) Subject: RE: Runnin' Hot
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com



> Also, unless you're
>adding coolant every day, you're probably letting the level run down to a
>point where the coolant can easily create air pockets, or boil, before you
>fill it up again.

No, I haven't been adding the coolant everyday, so you're probably right there.

>2. You say it "redlines" at low speed/idle. Do this: get the engine
> >nice and warm, and then get out and open the hood. Watch the fan rotating,
>and have a friend rev the engine up some. See what happens, if the fan
>rotates more and more quickly, or not. Then, once the engine is nice and
>hot, shut it off, then try to turn the fan with your hand. Since the engine
> >is hot the fan clutch should still be engaged and the fan difficult if not
>impossible to turn by hand. [Do NOT try this with the engine running!!! : )
>] If it is really hard to turn by hand, then wait until the engine cools
>off (a couple hours) and then try to turn it, and see if this is easier. If
>it's stuck when hot and disengaged when cool, the fan is ok.

Watched while my fiance ran the motor with the fan going (not sure if the truck was hot at that point). I've never noticed the fan changing speed.
I _have_ tried moving the fan (after the truck was turned off) by hand with a hot engine.
It moves fairly easily.

>3. Before you do anything else let us know how you made out with the
>foregoing. You say you replaced the thermostat? Well, when thermostats
>break they tend to stick OPEN, not shut, so with a faulty thermostat the
>most usual problem is overcooling, not under. So don't replace anything
>else until the heater core is fixed.

'Kay. The local radiator/muffler shop is having a sale on heater cores. Is there a particular brand to get? How much should I pay?

>good luck!!
>
>
>marko maryniak
>vancouver, bc
>1971 f250 4x4
>
>marko helix.net

Thank you so much. This was exactly the kind of help I needed.

--Julia Bender

1977 F250 Custom 460/V8



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>From Doug_Neely bc.sympatico.ca Thu Feb 27 02:29:30 1997 From: Doug Neely Subject: Re: looking for stuff
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

marko maryniak wrote:
>
> Hi!!
>
> I live in Vancouver, BC and have a stock turquoise 1971 F250 4x4 with a 360
> and the heavy 3/4 sus.
>
> I have put an rv cam in it, but am against headers as they may create heat
> problems in the engine compartment. I am also running a 6919 Holley (600
> cfm) 4 barrel which gives it quite a bit of snot. Other than radial tires
> > and a cd player in the glove compartment, the truck is stock.
>
> Trouble is, the cab mounts are finished, as is the radiator support. I
> welded in replacement cab mounts (the aftermarket type) and they ripped out.
>
> I need a nice, old (say 67 or 68) Ford or Mercury (the latter would be
> nice!) in decent shape, any old 2wd will do, from a nice warm place with no
> road salt (and therefore no rust). Mechanics don't matter but a 390 for a
> rebuild would be very nice too.
>
> Please let me know if you got or know where I can get. Thanks, and if you
> need parts for this vintage (68-72) like interior, emblems, mirrors, etc etc
> there are tons up here, so email and I will return the favour. There are
> other vintages too so email me with your needs.
>
> thanks!!!
>
> marko maryniak
> (marko helix.net)
>
> ps to all you mileage writers (erickson et al) I get about 16 with my rv
> cam and and lead foot.
>
> Somebody said something about removing the fan. You mean, put in a clutch
> fan, or a flex fan, or an electric fan, or no fan, or what? How much mpg
> will this really add?
> Marko,
There's a 390 advertised in the times colonist (on the island)for 300 bucks
with the trans the guys number is 250-642 2779
Cheers,
Doug
P.S. My 390 gets 11 on a good day with R.V. cam,edelbrock manifold,headers,
holly 600 and 3.54 gears and no heat problems:)
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>From Doug_Neely bc.sympatico.ca Thu Feb 27 05:05:00 1997 From: Doug Neely Subject: FE parts
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

To all FEnatatics,
Check out Edelbrocks home page at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http:// www.edelbrock.com/ ,there's a good article on a 427 buildup with their new heads,also a new water pump available. Fluidamper also has a new damper for FEs.
Cheers
Doug


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>From doggfarm erols.com Thu Feb 27 06:51:43 1997 From: doggfarm erols.com
Subject: Re: Raising My Ranger
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>I'm wanting to raise, (as in distance, up), my '97 Ranger XLT and put large
> wheels on it. Any information would be appreciated.


I have a 93 STX 4x4 with 2" Superlift springs in the front.
I'm running 11.50x32 Dunlop Radial Rovers on the factory STX wheel.
New bushings were installed to maintain factory spec alignment.
Tire wear has been excellent; surprising given the rims are only 7" I am *completely* satisfied. The tires don't rub at any time.
The truck looks different enough to turn heads but not so different that it attracts
those w/inspection specs in mind (policica). I wouldn't suggest much more.

John




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>From andyrose nortel.ca Thu Feb 27 07:40:11 1997 Sender: "Andy Rose" From: "Andy Rose"
Subject: 46 pickup?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Mitch Miller
>mmiller dryden.net
>Dryden, ONTARIO

>Running........
>'88 Bronco
> >'46 Pickup

Mitch...

Got any pictures of the '46 in gif or jpeg? My Pops is rebuilding/restoring a 46 pickup. Is yours fully restored? Any ideas where Pops can find the waterfall grill and/or the dash? The truck he is restoring is complete and solid except for the missing grill and dash. He has the 6 banger rebuilt and ready to drop in (he had to have a couple of parts made for the engine .. but he had a guy in Salt Lake rebuild it for him and he's pretty happy with the overall rebuild).

Andy


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>From payne platinum.com Thu Feb 27 08:30:47 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: 460 Fuel Economy?! -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> "Kevin Lindstedt" 02/26/97 06:47am >>>
>Hi all,
>
>I've got a 1978 F150 Ranger Lariat with a 460 and C6 transmission. I
>recently put a new Holley 600CFM 4 barrel carb on in place of the
>original
>Motorcraft unit. I'm averaging about 10 mpg. Now... I realize this is not
>Consumer Reports first choice for a fuel efficient vehicle, but what can
>I do to improve fuel economy (I don't know what rearend is in it), and
>what is the absolute best MPG that anyone out there has achieved? I
> could replace the 460 (123,000 mi with no rebuild) with a 300, but I've
>kind of gotten use to that "kick in the seat" from a big V8 :)

New intake manifold, headers and low restriction mufflers. Should improve economy ***if*** you can resist the temptation to gun it with the extra power you'll get. I've heard as high as 16 mpg with the 460.




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>From payne platinum.com Thu Feb 27 08:46:43 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold removal, heater fan motor.. -Reply -Reply To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> Robert J Schreiner 02/26/97 10:05am >>> -snip-

>What about the 330 truck motor used in the mid 70's? was this a FE
>block?

>Just curious.
>RJ.

Don't know. I've heard mention of this engine, heard some call it an FE, others say its not. I don't have it listed in my rebuild book as an FE - matter of fact its not even listed. I'd like to know the answer too. I'll ask the Fordnatics list.




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>From payne platinum.com Thu Feb 27 09:12:56 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: looking for stuff -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> 02/26/97 05:08pm >>>
>
>Actually, wouldn't headers decrease the amount of heat since your
> engine would be operating more efficiently?

Most of the time headers tend to increase underhood temperatures quite a bit. They have 10-30 times more surface area to radiate heat with compare to stock manifolds. Stock manifolds send most of the heat out under the vehicle and also out the pipe. This is why racers wrap their headers with header insulating wrap.
Stuff works really good to protect your fuel line from vapor lock too!

I've heard that ceramic coated headers to have as much heat disappation but I don't have any experience with them.





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>From rs6l+ andrew.cmu.edu Thu Feb 27 09:21:15 1997 From: Robert J Schreiner Subject: Re: 460 Fuel Economy?! -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hey there Bill, I'm going thru this right now on my '70 and even the same fender! What I did was gently bent IN the lip on the fenders where the bolts go thru,tried the fender and the bead was still a little loose, but not as bad. So I bent the lip OUT between the bolt holes, stuck the fender back on... tight as can be!
Be gentle... It really doesn't take much to hold that bead.

RJ.



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>From rs6l+ andrew.cmu.edu Thu Feb 27 09:30:39 1997 From: Robert J Schreiner Subject: Sorry about last post!
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

You guys really didn't want to haer about a VW fender anyway ;)


RJ.


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>From payne platinum.com Thu Feb 27 09:47:54 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: Late model stuff -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> 02/26/97 10:37pm >>>
>I've been using my 95 F150 with a 302 (no five.oh for me!) on
>weekends to
>get to my boat, about 120 miles one way. As you might imagine, I drive a
>little faster going than coming home on Sunday night. Going, I may be
>doing
>75 or so, and needless to say, the gas mileage seems to drop off,
>probably
>radically about 68mph. Coming home I keep it to 65 or so, and I get a
>whole
>lot bettah mileage. Also above 80, the second air inlet starts opening
>and
>starts its moan like the fully opened secondaries on an old Dodge Cop
> >440.
>Any comments on the mileage habits of these rolling boxes?

Consider yourself lucky! If I don't let the 4 bbl open up I get 10 mpg uphill, downhill, loaded, unloaded 55 or 85!




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>From rcollins micron.net Thu Feb 27 10:04:52 1997 From: Randy Collins Subject: Header Wraps
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Recently Steve & Rockette wrote that header wraps would control under = hood temperatures. I also understand that they tend to increase = performance by increasing exhaust gas temperature. I understand that = the disadvantage to header wraps was that they promoted corrosion by = allowing moisture to collect in the wraps. Of course this wouldn't be a = problem if the vehicle was left running, since the corrosion only occurs = when the vehicle is left sitting. =20....

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