Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 00:06:26 -0500 (EST) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
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Subject: fordtrucks Digest v97 n0005
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Volume 97 Number 0005 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

Re: Digest format now available! -Reply
Re: F-Series Truck Suppliers
Re: '61 grill and tranny questions -Reply
1964 F100 Grille -Reply
77 F-250 Wires
RE: New to the list w/93 Ranger
[Fwd: Re: Vacuum hoses and emmisions control]
Re: Vacuum hoses and emmisions control
Re: Antique parts suppliers(Canada)
Re: Antique parts suppliers(Canada)
Rust protection of welded repairs
3M weldthrough primer
Where are all the messages?
Re: Where are all the messages?
Re: Where are all the messages?
Re: Rust protection of welded repairs
Re: Where are all the messages?


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>From payne platinum.com Thu Feb 20 14:02:01 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Digest format now available! -Reply To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I figured you guys would find it humorous. Even my wife snickered at it!


>>> 02/20/97 08:50am >>> On Thu, 20 Feb 1997 07:30:46 -0500 (EST) "Andy Rose"
writes:
>In message "Digest format now available!", you write:

>:6. link for Chevy owners added (humorous)

I loved that link so much, that I told a couple of real Chevy owners to go check it out!


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>From bigric mail.utexas.edu Thu Feb 20 14:02:40 1997 From: bigric mail.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: F-Series Truck Suppliers
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> Let's talk about the suppliers listed on the webpage. Who have you
> used? Who's the best? Worst? Largest? Smallest? Who has free
> catalogs? Just call this the FORDTRUCKS Better Business Bureau...

I've used Obsolete Ford Parts for a while, and I've never had any problems with them. I've tried Bob's F100 Parts and they told me that they didn't cover my model year ('68). As far as older stuff goes, they look pretty decent, though.


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>From gypsybill usa.net Thu Feb 20 15:23:23 1997 From: "William Rotureau" Subject: Re: '61 grill and tranny questions -Reply To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> "Erickson" 02/20/97
>>>
Hey Bill, Ken, Jesse, and all,

-snip-

>>I have another old truck question....(sorry newer truck guys!)

>>I have a '59 292 Y block with a 3-speed manual tranny on the floor.
>>My question pertains to the tranny. When driving, and putting a
>>torque on the engine/tranny, the hump on the tranny where the gear
>>shift attaches will twist a noticeable bit when observed in the cab.
>>I checked the two rubber tranny mounts yesterday, and the

>

I agree with Ken, even the old three speed tranny mount that I took out of my '64 was very stiff and almost unyielding - replacement is in order...


Bill R...



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>From payne platinum.com Thu Feb 20 15:36:28 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: 1964 F100 Grille -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Yeah, the price is about right.

>>> "William Rotureau" 02/19/97 10:16pm >>> New guy again.

I buried this question deep in another reply earlier, so I thought I would make it one of it's own.

I am looking for a reasonably priced grille (preferrably chrome) for my '64. I have found them in a couple of catalogs for around $200. Is this about right? Junks yards that I have searched have had nothing. I have a good '63 grille that was on the truck when I bought it. If anyone is looking for one, I will part with it when I can find a '64 (need it to hold the headlights up :-))

Bill R.

'64 F100 Shortbox


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>From PACEG1 WPGATE.UOFS.EDU Thu Feb 20 15:40:29 1997 From: Glen Pace Subject: 77 F-250 Wires
X-VMS-To: in%"fordtrucks lofcom.com"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I have been having wiring trouble with my 77 F-250 4x4.
My question is does anyone make a wiring harness for my truck?
I picked up a stripped cab and I will be doing the swap this summer and I would love to put a new harness in while it is all apart.
I would consider using a used one from out west if anyone has any
sources please let me know. Where I live here in the east everything is rusty and the wires are very delicate from the cold winters I guess.
Thanks in advance
Glen

77 F-250 4x4
96 F-350 4x4



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>From cwebb ctainforms.com Thu Feb 20 18:23:02 1997 From: cwebb ctainforms.com (Christopher E. Webb) Subject: RE: New to the list w/93 Ranger To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>The Rhino Linings is tops.
>
>The good thing about it is that it is permanent. The bad thing about it is
>that it is permanent. I would not go with a drop in bed liner. They may not
>warp or bend, but they tend to collect water under them with resultant
>rusting of the bed over time. They definitely will not outlast a Rhino
>Linings or other top quality sprayed-in lining (if there are other good
>quality sprayed-in linings on the market).
>
>Just a well satisfied customer.
>
>Regards,
>Dan
>'95 Power Stroke F-250HD


Does the bed need to be in pristine condition to do the sprayed in lining?
Will it work on an older bed that has rust or wear already?


--Julia Bender

1977 F250 460/V8



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>From nfinney earthlink.net Thu Feb 20 20:02:32 1997 From: Nick Finney Subject: [Fwd: Re: Vacuum hoses and emmisions control] To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

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Subject: Re: Vacuum hoses and emmisions control X-comments: *** Rejected - Not allowed to post!. ***

>> I am currently replacing my 351W (because I threw a rod) with
>>another long block. Are all the vacuum hoses really necessary and where
>>can I find a good diagram showing where they all go. Will removing the
>>emmisions control equipment affect the performance of the engine.
>>
>>Greg
>>'84 F-150 4X4 351W auto

You don't mention where the truck is registered. If this is from California or some other state that has a manditory smog law with a visual inspection you will need to keep ALL of the emissions controls to pass the visual. Does this motor have CFI? or is it an electronically controlled carb? - in any case you should probably keep all of the stock vacuum connections intact or you will have an excess amount of emissions and poor gas mileage.

To find a list of all vacumm connections look under the hood for a vacumm connection tag or consult the factory service manual.

--
Nick Finney
nfinney earthlink.net

"Ya see its not the speed that kills son its the sudden stop"


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>From ssilverthorn front.net Thu Feb 20 22:20:44 1997 From: Steve and Diana Silverthorn Subject: Re: Antique parts suppliers(Canada) To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Mitch,

I see your from Canada, and I bet that the parts suppliers are a bit thin up in Dryden. I'm from Mississauga
and have had good luck at a place called Special Interest Automotive in Oakville. They have
an excellent Ford Parts man there called Rick and seem to be able to get most any Ford part. If you haven't
tried it let me know and I will dig up the number.

Thanks Steve



At 09:59 AM 2/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Mac's Antique Auto Parts in NY has a very large selection of parts. I
>found this place thanks to the WWW. But they don't have everything I need.
> I'm sure there are lots of other parts suppliers out there, probably not
>on the web and hard to find. Still need some parts for the '47 Panel Truck
>(114 in. wheelbase).
>
>Can you recommend other parts suppliers?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mitch Miller
>mmiller dryden.net
>
>Site 102, Box 59, RR #1 home (807) 937-2764
>Dryden, ON work (807) 937-7221
>P8N 2Y4
>Canada
>
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>From mmiller dryden.net Fri Feb 21 09:58:37 1997 From: "Mitch Miller" Subject: Re: Antique parts suppliers(Canada) To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Steve said :

>I'm from Mississauga
and have had good luck at a place called Special Interest Automotive in Oakville. They have
an excellent Ford Parts man there called Rick and seem to be able to get most any Ford part. If you haven't
tried it let me know and I will dig up the number.

Please dig up that number. Do they have a catalog?

Thanks
Mitch


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>From lsmeins ball.com Fri Feb 21 12:16:40 1997 From: lsmeins ball.com (Larry Smeins)
Subject: Rust protection of welded repairs To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I promised I'd get more information on the rust protection product for welded in repair panels that I mentioned in a reply to a post on fixing a rusty truck. Here it is:

The product is: 3M 5913 Weld Through Primer. 3M claims it protects against corrosion after welding, amongst other things. It can be used with MIG welding. You spray it on the inner surface of the panels to be welded together before placing and welding them. The body man that told me about this stuff likes it and the local 3M dealer says they sell tons of it.
Sounds like its worth a try.

Larry
If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost.



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>From sthibode fmis02.nsc.com Fri Feb 21 14:13:18 1997 From: sthibode fmis02.nsc.com
Subject: 3M weldthrough primer
X-Vms-To: FORDTRUCKS LOFCOM.COM
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Last fall I installed a new quarter panel on my 80 Bronco (Rustonco). I used the 3M weld through primer on all the seams that I Mig welded to, including the door striker post I also replaced. So far so good, nothing has bubbled yet in the rust testing grounds of Maine. The price on this stuff is expensive though, around $20 dollars a can. I used one can to do the entire job. Be careful with this stuff around anything that will see final paint as it will not stick....

Steve Thibodeau
80 Rustonco, 35" BFG muds, 4" Superlift (winter trk) 86 F150 XLT Lariat (summer trk)


>The product is: 3M 5913 Weld Through Primer. 3M claims it protects against
>corrosion after welding, amongst other things. It can be used with MIG
>welding. You spray it on the inner surface of the panels to be welded
>together before placing and welding them. The body man that told me about
>this stuff likes it and the local 3M dealer says they sell tons of it.
> Sounds like its worth a try.



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>From payne platinum.com Fri Feb 21 20:23:32 1997 From: Ken Payne
Subject: Where are all the messages?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Seems like activity has dwindled since alot of people have changed over to digest format (roughly one-third of the list members)!

Anyways, on Sunday I'm going to spend some time revamping the web site. Is there anything anyone of you guys/gals would like to see on the site? The site and list are now cataloged with over 2 dozen search engines, depending on the search parameters you give it may or may not be easy to find (there are tens of thousands of references to Ford trucks on the net).






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>From cwebb ctainforms.com Fri Feb 21 22:00:56 1997 From: cwebb ctainforms.com (Christopher E. Webb) Subject: Re: Where are all the messages?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Seems like activity has dwindled since alot of people have changed
>over to digest format (roughly one-third of the list members)!
>
>Anyways, on Sunday I'm going to spend some time revamping
>the web site. Is there anything anyone of you guys/gals would
>like to see on the site? The site and list are now cataloged with
>over 2 dozen search engines, depending on the search
>parameters you give it may or may not be easy to find (there
>are tens of thousands of references to Ford trucks on the
>net).


Don't know about everybody else, Ken, but I lost your instructions on how to switch over to the digest format. Maybe some people got lost. Will you post the instructions again?

Julia

1977 F250 460/V8




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>From kpayne mindspring.com Fri Feb 21 22:21:40 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Where are all the messages?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 10:00 PM 2/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>Seems like activity has dwindled since alot of people have changed
>>over to digest format (roughly one-third of the list members)!
>>
>>Anyways, on Sunday I'm going to spend some time revamping
>>the web site. Is there anything anyone of you guys/gals would
>>like to see on the site? The site and list are now cataloged with
>>over 2 dozen search engines, depending on the search
>>parameters you give it may or may not be easy to find (there
>>are tens of thousands of references to Ford trucks on the
>>net).
>
>
>Don't know about everybody else, Ken, but I lost your instructions on how to
>switch over to the digest format. Maybe some people got lost. Will you
>post the instructions again?
>
>Julia
>
>1977 F250 460/V8
>

Send a message to list-request lofcom.com with the following in the BODY of the message:

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The reason why activity has slowed down is that all the digest users won't get messages until 40k of messages build up. Once that happens, they'll all get the messages, all respond at once, hit 40k again quickly and then things should go somewhat normal for the list after this point.

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
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>From kpayne mindspring.com Fri Feb 21 22:22:44 1997 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Rust protection of welded repairs To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 12:16 PM 2/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I promised I'd get more information on the rust protection product for
> welded in repair panels that I mentioned in a reply to a post on fixing a
>rusty truck. Here it is:
>
>The product is: 3M 5913 Weld Through Primer. 3M claims it protects against
>corrosion after welding, amongst other things. It can be used with MIG
>welding. You spray it on the inner surface of the panels to be welded
>together before placing and welding them. The body man that told me about
>this stuff likes it and the local 3M dealer says they sell tons of it.
> Sounds like its worth a try.
>
>Larry
>If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost.
>
>
>

What kind of welding is it good for? MIG, torch, etc?

Thanks,

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~kpayne/ford



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>From charlie lofcom.com Fri Feb 21 23:53:31 1997 From: Charlie Summers Subject: Re: Where are all the messages?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 10:21 PM -0500 2/21/97, Ken Payne is rumored to have typed:

> The reason why activity has slowed down is that all the digest users won't
> get messages until 40k of messages build up. Once that happens, they'll
> all get the messages, all respond at once, hit 40k again quickly and then....


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