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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:55:52 -0500 (EST) To: fordtrucks-digest From: digest-proc Subject: fordtrucks Digest v97 n0001 Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS Volume 97 Number 0001 fordtrucks Digest Today's Topics: Problem with this digest, Cowboys mailing list index mixed with ours! Test message: ignore A Letter of Introduction Re: IMAGES OF THE MIND??? Re: New Web Page address Re: 970214 cowboys-l Digest Re: 970214 cowboys-l Digest RE: Cowboy Stats... Re: A possible pickup? Re: 970213 cowboys-l Digest All Time Cowboy Leaders What other player profiles would you like to see? JJ gives you the team, you have control.... RE: A possible pickup? Re: All Time Cowboy Leaders Re: JJ gives you the team, you have control.... Re: What other player profiles would you like to see? Re: What other player profiles would you like to see? Re: What other player profiles would you like to see? Re: A possible pickup? Re: 970214 cowboys-l Digest player/coach RE: News from the pre draft pages Free Agent wide recievers Ike Hillard Re: Engine Runs Rough Flathead help Re: Engine Runs Rough Flathead help 100 users and digest wanted 56 parts Clubs in Puget Sound Area Ranger ABS problem Re: Clubs in Puget Sound Area Re: Ranger ABS problem Re: split group or digest? '47 Panel Van info request Re: F-series PowerStroke Diesel Re: Pigeon Forge Show -Reply -Reply Re: Pigeon Forge hotel rates -Reply Re: F-series PowerStroke Diesel Re: F-series PowerStroke Diesel RE: wanted 56 parts wanted 56 parts Re: wanted 56 parts Intermediate Steering Shaft 79 F150 4WD Re: Intermediate Steering Shaft 79 F150 4WD Intermediate Steering Shaft 79 F150 4WD -Reply Re: '47 Panel Van info request Re: '47 Panel Van info request 47 Panel Truck * PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THE ENTIRE DIGEST IN REPLIES TO THE LIST! * -------------------------------------------------- >From barr To: FORDTRUCKS ------------524D7DA45760 Jim, I appreciate your help and I will re-check my MAP circuit later today if I feel better and it is warm enough outside. I am just getting over the flu. As I said before, I have already replaced the MAP sensor. I think I will try and clear my codes and start again. Thanks, Bruce, Frederick, MD '91 F-150 '94 E-250 ------------524D7DA45760 Jim, I appreciate your help and I will re-check my MAP circuit later today if I feel better and it is warm enough outside. I am just getting over the flu. As I said before, I have already replaced the MAP sensor. I think I will try and clear my codes and start again. Thanks, Bruce, Frederick, MD '91 F-150 '94 E-250 ------------524D7DA45760-- ------------------------------ >From FATBOY900 Subject: Flathead help To: FORDTRUCKS I have a 1952 ford F-1, that I would like to build as a fifty's style hot rod. I want to keep the 239 flathead in place and keep the stock axles. The trans has got to go,I would like to put an automatic in it's place. I remember reading somewhere that a C4 would bolt in, but I cant find any information about this. Can anyone help me? I'm also looking to get some info on powder coating for the heads. Tom Grover ------------------------------ >From barr To: FORDTRUCKS ------------524D7DA45760 Jim, I appreciate your help and I will re-check my MAP circuit later today if I feel better and it is warm enough outside. I am just getting over the flu. As I said before, I have already replaced the MAP sensor. I think I will try and clear my codes and start again. Thanks, Bruce, Frederick, MD '91 F-150 '94 E-250 ------------524D7DA45760 Jim, I appreciate your help and I will re-check my MAP circuit later today if I feel better and it is warm enough outside. I am just getting over the flu. As I said before, I have already replaced the MAP sensor. I think I will try and clear my codes and start again. Thanks, Bruce, Frederick, MD '91 F-150 '94 E-250 ------------524D7DA45760-- ------------------------------ >From FATBOY900 Subject: Flathead help To: FORDTRUCKS I have a 1952 ford F-1, that I would like to build as a fifty's style hot rod. I want to keep the 239 flathead in place and keep the stock axles. The trans has got to go,I would like to put an automatic in it's place. I remember reading somewhere that a C4 would bolt in, but I cant find any information about this. Can anyone help me? I'm also looking to get some info on powder coating for the heads. Tom Grover ------------------------------ >From kpayne To: FORDTRUCKS Number of subscriptions has hit 100! I had expected it to hit 100 on Friday as the new sign-up rate has been 10 per day but the number dropped dramatically - probably due to Valentine's Day as the number of postings has also dropped during this period. Also, digest format is under testing. So far so good. Will keep everyone updated as to when this will be available. Everyone please remember that you cannot unsubscribe by sending email to FORDTRUCKS -Ken Payne 1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8 List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions. Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~kpayne/ford ------------------------------ >From mcat Subject: wanted 56 parts To: FORDTRUCKS Any one know were Ican find a set of 53-56 F100 front fenders in decent shape.dents ok rust no. thanks Garry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Garry E-mail: mcat Date: 2/16/97 Time: 7:27:49 PM 427 Fe powered F-100 Wild by design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ >From chuckm Subject: Clubs in Puget Sound Area To: FORDTRUCKS Hi: My son is restoring a 50 Ford pickup. He would like to find a club or association dealing with classics in the Puget Sound area. If you know of any I would really appreciate addresses or phone numbers. Thanks very much. Regards, wmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwm || Chuck Mancuso || i AEC Systems i || || chuckm ------------------------------ >From markem To: FORDTRUCKS After a hard stop last week to avoid an idiot who ran a stop sign, the ABS and brake warning lights are on in my 93 Ranger. When I turn the key on, they go thru the normal cycle and go out. But at the first brake application they come back on. The brakes seem to working fine. Fluid level is OK. The diagnostic code I get is 4 flashes, which, according to my Chilton's, means "RABS valve switch closed". Is the valve unit stuck/broken/need replacement? Can it be repaired or is a replacement item? It looks expensive. Or is it something simpler (and cheaper)? Any insight into this will be greatly appreciated. Thanks... Mark markem ------------------------------ >From ssilverthorn To: FORDTRUCKS Chuck, About 2 or 3 months ago there was an article in Truckin magazine in the "Ford Forever" editorial written by Garry Pratt. In this article it listed all the known Ford Truck clubs in Canada and the US. Good Luck, Steve At 08:34 PM 2/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >Hi: > >My son is restoring a 50 Ford pickup. He would like to find a club or >association dealing with classics in the Puget Sound area. If you know of >any I would really appreciate addresses or phone numbers. > > >Thanks very much. > > >Regards, > >wmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwm >|| Chuck Mancuso || i AEC Systems i || >|| chuckm >|| || {{|}} Idaho {{|}} || >|| || {((|))} USA {((|))} || >|| || {{{{|}}}} {{{{|}}}}|| >|| || ____|______________________|____|| >wmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwmwm > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks >For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request >Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > ------------------------------ >From FATBOY900 Subject: Re: Ranger ABS problem To: FORDTRUCKS Try resetting the computer by disconnecting the battery cable for 30 seconds. This worked for me on a Dodge truck. Tom ------------------------------ >From yhtlines Subject: Re: split group or digest? To: FORDTRUCKS Great, and thanks!!! At 12:29 PM 2/15/97 -0500, you wrote: > >On Monday, I'm sending out a check to get digest format started. >My reasoning: > ------------------------------ >From mmiller To: FORDTRUCKS I am in the process of restoring a 1947 Ford Panel Van. It is the only one that I have ever seen (aside from a picture in a Shop Manual). It has the same frame and cab as a pickup, except that it has a van body instead of a box. And that is all I know. Do you have, or can you point me towards information about this vehicle? Engine 6E - 8169 Trim MC - 18001 - E Paint M - 1800 - B Code 201H47 - 66948 Thanks, Mitch Miller mmiller ------------------------------ >From JLINETT Subject: Re: F-series PowerStroke Diesel To: FORDTRUCKS rsmall > Few more questions- You're welcome! > >HEUI's- made by Cat eh? You don't think these things originate from >Daewoo...Cat's overseas source for fork trucks and other equipment >parts. Man, I hope not. That'd be like the scene in the movie where the guy was crying because he found *apanese parts in his Hog... I guess in this day of global manufacturing, sourcing, etc., anything is possible. I doubt they were invented offshore, though. We invent everything over here, and then everyone else rips us off, miniaturizes whatever we make, and then sells it for less. >What does Helm charge for a complete engine manual and is a truck manual >available? I plan on keeping mine a while. (My other Ford is a 1978 >E-150 Van, 300/6 stick, bought new, 180,000 miles, never consumed >a quart of oil. I'm not cheap, I just get attached) Helm Prices for 1996 F-Series (from order form in Owner's Manual) FCS-12107-96 F-150 - 350 Service Manual $ 90.00 FCS-12106-96 Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis 160.00 FCS-12137-96 Light Truck Service Specifications 32.00 FCS-12129-96 F-150 - 350 Electrical/Vacuum/Troubleshooting 30.00 I got the service manual, "spec book", and the EVTM. I don't know how useful the Powertrain control doc will be without the diagnostic equipment that Ford makes/uses...(Helm screwed up the order three times, so it may take a while to get 'em all) >I know a guy in Oklahoma owns a 350 4x4, said at 100,000 his starting >just shutting off.....turns out it was cam sensor. Don't know if an >adjustment was required or replacement. Some of them need to be shimmed. It's a 2 minute job with the right part. >You refer to a spin out fuel filter...Mine uses a cartridge under >screw off cap, is this what you are referring to? Yes, they're all the same. Contrast this to the conventional designs, such as on the Cummins B5 series... Regards, Jon ------------------------------ >From payne Subject: Re: Pigeon Forge Show -Reply -Reply Content-Disposition: inline To: FORDTRUCKS Just out of curiousity, which hotel did you stay with? I certainly didn't get that kind of deal! >>> 02/14/97 10:02am >>> >Its in late spring. I'll have the dates as soon as I get them in >the mail. As to where. Get a hotel in Severeville, about >5 miles from Pigeon Forge as the rates are less. Drive down I can't imagine the hotels being any less, unless they were free! We paid 39 bucks for a suite with a wood-burning fireplace (and a supply of stacked wood), a king-sized bed, and a jacuzzi! The previous night we did rough it and get a room with a king-sized bed and cable TV for $24.95, though. When in Sevierville, make sure to stop in at Smokey Mountain Knife Works, and if you're a ham radio operator (or play one on TV) go see the folks at Ten-Tec. Makes you feel good to see Americans kicking butt in the technology game, using parts they design and manufacture right there in their own plant. Jon P.S. I don't own stock in, nor am I employed by any of the aforementioned. They're just neat places that most car/truck guys would like. ------------------------------ ------------------------------ >From JLINETT Subject: Re: Pigeon Forge hotel rates -Reply To: FORDTRUCKS Ken Payne wrote: >Just out of curiousity, which hotel did you stay with? I >certainly didn't get that kind of deal! I forget the route number of the main drag in Pigeon Forge, but the real nice place was at the east end, really past where the strip and hotels end. I don't recall the name of it, but there was a riding stable up on the hill in the next lot over. Oak-something or other, or woods, in the name. It's a fairly small place, maybe 20 units? and I'll be pretty pissed off if they have the "No Vacancy" sign lit, and I see your truck in the parking lot! The other motel was west, in the main part of the strip, and we just checked a few and when I heard a price I liked we signed on the dotted-line. After I posted that price report, I realized that we were there during low season (between Christmas and New Year's) and I'm sure that's why it was so doggone cheap. We felt like we were the only ones in town! But the first night we tried to check in to the deluxe place, they were full. So we made a reservation for the next night and came back. I guess they'll make it all back in the springtime! Best Regards, Jon ------------------------------ >From lsmeins Subject: Re: F-series PowerStroke Diesel To: FORDTRUCKS Robert, Send me an e-mail at lsmeins We don't build balls, think beer cans and space telescopes. Larry ---------- From: FORDTRUCKS To: FORDTRUCKS Subject: Re: F-series PowerStroke Diesel Date: Friday, February 14, 1997 6:59PM Larry Smeins wrote: > > I'm new to this group and missed the original of this posting. I too had a > reprogram of the computer on my '95' Powerstroke. Power and transmission > shift points changed for the worse. I'd like to have a chat with you about > this Robert. I've put a query out on the Cummins group on this topic. > > Larry > If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost. > ---------- > > >Number two-What about specific problems.... I've had a PCM changed > >because the cruise control didn't work right. Now the engine starts and > >shifts different. Dealer says it was all wrong before. > > >Robert Smallwood > >Loving my awesome T444 "oargg oargg oargg" or whatever Tim says when > >the Turbo spins up. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks > For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks > For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne Larry, I'm not sure how to chat on this wonderful medium yet, but however we can exchange info I'd be more than happy to. By the way, "Ball Corporation"...you don't by chance know how to make an end do you? I've seen a few million go out the door where I work. Robert ------------------------------ ------------------------------ >From lsmeins Subject: RE: wanted 56 parts To: FORDTRUCKS Saw an add for a 55 pickup for parts this weekend. The trucks in Fort Collins, CO area. If interested I can get the telephone number. Larry ---------- From: FORDTRUCKS To: FORDTRUCKS Subject: wanted 56 parts Date: Sunday, February 16, 1997 7:33PM Any one know were Ican find a set of 53-56 F100 front fenders in decent shape.dents ok rust no. thanks Garry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Garry E-mail: mcat Date: 2/16/97 Time: 7:27:49 PM 427 Fe powered F-100 Wild by design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ >From jralph To: FORDTRUCKS I know someone who can help. He's located in Riverside,CA and his name is Bob Carlisle. Here's his number 909 792-0605. Please tell him that Jewlia Love sent you via this mailing list ok?! Thanks! :) > > Any one know were Ican find a set of 53-56 F100 front fenders in decent > shape.dents ok rust no. > > thanks Garry > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Name: Garry > E-mail: mcat > Date: 2/16/97 Time: 7:27:49 PM > > 427 Fe powered F-100 Wild by design > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >-- J L & J Internet Consulting and Advertising P.O. Box 11686 San Bernardino, CA 92423-1686 Tel: (909) 792-0650 Fax: (909) 792-2395 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.imall.com mailto:jralph ------------------------------ >From gmumma Subject: Intermediate Steering Shaft 79 F150 4WD To: FORDTRUCKS Subject is what I'm looking for. I have a 1979 Ford F-150 4WD that has a bad universal joint in the steering shaft between the steering column shaft and the steering box. Ford says they stopped selling them 2 years ago. I also called a bearing company to see about just replacing the u-joint. They also told me the bearing was out of production with none left on the shelf. The Ford part number for the intermediate steering shaft is D9TZ3B676A. The u-joint is a Torrington MYT661. Can anyone PLEASE tell me where I may find one of these items? I would really hate to part with the truck over something so minor, yet so neccessary. Thanks in advance for any info. Gary **************************************************************** * Gary Mumma + Ofcourse all opinions are mine, * * gmumma ------------------------------ >From mdniz19 Subject: Re: Intermediate Steering Shaft 79 F150 4WD To: FORDTRUCKS Gary Mumma wrote: > > Subject is what I'm looking for. I have a 1979 Ford F-150 4WD that has a > bad universal joint in the steering shaft between the steering column shaft > and the steering box. Ford says they stopped selling them 2 years ago. I > also called a bearing company to see about just replacing the u-joint. They > also told me the bearing was out of production with none left on the shelf. > > The Ford part number for the intermediate steering shaft is D9TZ3B676A. > The u-joint is a Torrington MYT661. > > Can anyone PLEASE tell me where I may find one of these items? I would > really hate to part with the truck over something so minor, yet so neccessary. > > Thanks in advance for any info. > > Gary > > **************************************************************** > * Gary Mumma + Ofcourse all opinions are mine, * > * gmumma > * Arlington, Virginia + credit for my stupidity * > *++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++* > * ===== Homepage located at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mnsinc.com/gmumma ===== * > **************************************************************** > > ____________________________________________________________________ I ran into this problem several years ago, when I didn't want to pay Fords price. My solution was to use an intermediate shaft out of a late 70's,early 80's GM mid size car. (Monte Carlo, Grand Prix,etc.) I was able to combine parts from the Ford and GM to make one shaft that worked. I used the truck that way for about three years and never had a problem. I'm sure that if you look around in a junkyard you'll find something that will work. ------------------------------ >From payne Subject: Intermediate Steering Shaft 79 F150 4WD -Reply Content-Disposition: inline To: FORDTRUCKS Why not go to a junk yard and pull the part or if they won't let you pull it, ask them for the entire steering column with the part? >>> Gary Mumma 02/17/97 03:24pm >>> Subject is what I'm looking for. I have a 1979 Ford F-150 4WD that has a bad universal joint in the steering shaft between the steering column shaft and the steering box. Ford says they stopped selling them 2 years ago. I also called a bearing company to see about just replacing the u-joint. They also told me the bearing was out of production with none left on the shelf. The Ford part number for the intermediate steering shaft is D9TZ3B676A. The u-joint is a Torrington MYT661. Can anyone PLEASE tell me where I may find one of these items? I would really hate to part with the truck over something so minor, yet so neccessary. Thanks in advance for any info. Gary **************************************************************** * Gary Mumma + Ofcourse all opinions are mine, * * gmumma ------------------------------ ------------------------------ >From ssilverthorn Mitch, If you have your serial number I can possibly tell you more. Email it to me and I'll see if I can dig up my codes. Thanks Steve At 09:56 AM 2/17/97 -0500, you wrote: >I am in the process of restoring a 1947 Ford Panel Van. It is the only >one that I have ever seen (aside from a picture in a Shop Manual). > >It has the same frame and cab as a pickup, except that it has a >van body instead of a box. And that is all I know. > >Do you have, or can you point me towards information about this vehicle? > >Engine 6E - 8169 >Trim MC - 18001 - E >Paint M - 1800 - B >Code 201H47 - 66948 > >Thanks, > >Mitch Miller >mmiller > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks >For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request >Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > ------------------------------ >From bboogaar At 09:56 17/02/97 -0500, you wrote: > >I am in the process of restoring a 1947 Ford Panel Van. It is the only >Do you have, or can you point me towards information about this vehicle? > >Engine 6E - 8169 Engine made in 1946, serial number 8169 >Trim MC - 18001 - E Green interior with a brown leatherette seat. >Paint M - 1800 - B Yosemite Green Bill Calgary, Alberta, Canada http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.telusplanet.net/public/bboogaar/flathead.htm Looking for 1942 - 1947 Ford Express (1 ton long wheel base pickup) NOS rear fenders and NOS waterfall grille. ------------------------------ >From rmeier Subject: 47 Panel Truck To: FORDTRUCKS Mitch, in 47 Ford made three versions of a panel truck. One was called a Sedan Delivery and was built on a car chassis. Since you say yours is just like a truck, it is probably not this one. The other two were both built on truck chassis and were both called panel delivery trucks, one with a 114 in wheelbase (body type C82) and one with a 122 inch wheelbase (body type Y82). Both used the 59A engine with the Ford (Holley actually made most of them) 2V carb. A heater (if you want to be an optimist) was optional equipment, and it was not a fresh air type, was heated by hot water and had a small fan with a defroster. Having used these things many times, I can tell you that they did not do much in the way of climate control..... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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