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In This Issue:
Re: [Transmission Problems]
Re: Transmission Problems
Body Lifts HELP
Re: Transmission Problems
Re: [Transmission Problems]
Re: Body Lifts HELP
Re: Body Lifts HELP
Transmission Problems - Bad News
Re: Transmission Problems - Bad News
Date: 24 May 00 22:43:36 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Transmission Problems]
BLUESKY636aol.com wrote:
> I received a preliminary diagnosis from Ted Britt Ford today.
> Anyway, they pulled a code on the transmission and the code indicated an
> "inoperative turbine speed sensor."
> lockup, etc. My service advisor said that when they pulled the connector, it
> was filled with grit and water. Hmmm. Imagine that!
It ought to, there used to be a similar problem with the MLP sensor causing
several TSBs about water intrusion on those. Possibly you may be part of a
similar TSB for that sensor. Although I'd have to wonder if just cleaning the
connector on yours would fix it.
Tim
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Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 23:37:17 -0400
From: Jean Marc Chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Transmission Problems
BLUESKY636aol.com wrote:
>
> I received a preliminary diagnosis from Ted Britt Ford today. I say
> preliminary because they have to order the part and I won't know for sure
> about the fix until they install the part. But I have my fingers crossed.
>
> Anyway, they pulled a code on the transmission and the code indicated an
> "inoperative turbine speed sensor." This is the sensor that reads the torque
> converter turbine RPM and is used in determining shift points, converter
> lockup, etc. My service advisor said that when they pulled the connector, it
> was filled with grit and water. Hmmm. Imagine that! Anyway, they were trying
> to get the part from another dealer and hoped to have it tomorrow.
>
> For good measure, I am also having my front and rear diff and transfer case
> fluids changed.
>
> I'll let everyone know if this fixes the problem. Keep your fingers crossed
> for me.
>
> Bill and Deb Haegele and Betsy and Oliver (The Fourwheeling Puppies)
Bill,
May I respectfully suggest that you water proof all the
connectors that are attached to the tranny.
Kindest regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 23:10:03 -0700
From: SBJ wsu.edu>
Subject: Body Lifts HELP
Okay, I don't want to clutter the list up with these, so please email me
off list with any answers. I know this has been asked, but I really need
to know.
When I put a body lift on my Bronco most likely a 3" WHAT all will need to
be extended and or bent???
I know about looking at the gas filler, the NP208 shifter, my auto tranny
cable, and ebrake....
Will there be enough extra for my brake lines, wiring and such? And will i
have to weld in an extension for my auto tranny or can i let out some cable
from the column, same for the ebrake?
People have said before to check for these.... but i'd really like some
concrete answers from anyone who has done a body lift, or has one.
I don't want to get half way done, and find that there is something that
i'm not equipped to do when the Bronco is my only transportation. Sorry
for bringing this all up again, when i do it, i'm going to put up a page,
so we can just refer people to it. Unless all Broncos aren't necessarily
created equal? I'd hope so from 80-86 at least.
In a message dated Wed, 24 May 2000 10:44:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim Turner netscape.net> writes:
<< It ought to, there used to be a similar problem with the MLP sensor causing several TSBs about water intrusion on those. Possibly you may be part of a
similar TSB for that sensor. Although I'd have to wonder if just cleaning the connector on yours would fix it.
Tim >>
I'm assuming that they tried that and it didn't work. Possiby the sensor may have shorted due to the water and grit. I don't know what type of device it is: optical, magnetic, or mechanical.
I will let everyone know the final results as soon as I do.
Bill and Deb Haegele and Betsy and Oliver (The Fourwheeling Puppies)
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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 07:47:29 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
Subject: Re: Body Lifts HELP
What kind of bronco are we talking about? I have a 1988 BII that I did a body
lift on. I would be happy to answer all of your questions in detail about this
if it pertains to your pony.
Adam
SBJ wrote:
> Okay, I don't want to clutter the list up with these, so please email me
> off list with any answers. I know this has been asked, but I really need
> to know.
>
> When I put a body lift on my Bronco most likely a 3" WHAT all will need to
> be extended and or bent???
> I know about looking at the gas filler, the NP208 shifter, my auto tranny
> cable, and ebrake....
>
> Will there be enough extra for my brake lines, wiring and such? And will i
> have to weld in an extension for my auto tranny or can i let out some cable
> from the column, same for the ebrake?
> People have said before to check for these.... but i'd really like some
> concrete answers from anyone who has done a body lift, or has one.
>
> I don't want to get half way done, and find that there is something that
> i'm not equipped to do when the Bronco is my only transportation. Sorry
> for bringing this all up again, when i do it, i'm going to put up a page,
> so we can just refer people to it. Unless all Broncos aren't necessarily
> created equal? I'd hope so from 80-86 at least.
>
> TIA guys,
> scotty
> -
> '86 XLT, 351W, C-6, NP 208, 9" (lsd), 3.50 gears ....
> polarwsu.edu
> www.wsu.edu/~polar
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From: Greg Carter entrust.com>
Subject: Re: Body Lifts HELP
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:46:34 -0400
Body lifts are a very time consuming job. So make sure you can do without
the truck for at least a weekend.
I have done two, one 3" on my own truck ('91 F-250) and one 3" on a friends
Toyota.
On my truck I didn't have to lengthen the gas filler but had to loosen the
clamps and pull the two tubes apart to get it fit (it just fit). All wiring
expect negative battery cable were OK. Battery cable just fit (very tight)
but it eventually broke and I replaced it with a longer one. Brakes lines
were OK but needed to be stretched a bit where they coil under the master
cylinder, ebrake cable was fine. Mine was a manual, at the time I didn't
have a way to bend my shifter so instead hacked (I don't like to admit this)
the floor to allow it to go into second gear. For the transfer case shifter
I trimmed the plastic part around the opening to allow it to shift into 4
low. Another hack...
I think I remember dropping the side gas tank to get at one of the body
mount bolts.
Bye.
Greg Carter
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-----Original Message-----
From: SBJ [mailto:polarwsu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:10 AM
To: bigbroncosmoab.off-road.com; northwest2bigbroncos.org;
offroad-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [offroad-list] Body Lifts HELP
Okay, I don't want to clutter the list up with these, so please email me
off list with any answers. I know this has been asked, but I really need
to know.
When I put a body lift on my Bronco most likely a 3" WHAT all will need to
be extended and or bent???
I know about looking at the gas filler, the NP208 shifter, my auto tranny
cable, and ebrake....
Will there be enough extra for my brake lines, wiring and such? And will i
have to weld in an extension for my auto tranny or can i let out some cable
from the column, same for the ebrake?
People have said before to check for these.... but i'd really like some
concrete answers from anyone who has done a body lift, or has one.
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From: BLUESKY636aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:40:26 EDT
Subject: Transmission Problems - Bad News
Well, I got the verdict from Ted Britt Ford today regarding my transmission
problems resulting from playing in the Second Mountain mud hole.
Unfortunately, replacement of the turbine speed sensor for the torque
convertor did not work. They have ordered a new transmission for the truck.
Without tearing it down, they feel that the 2-3 and 3-4 clutch packs have
been fried.
They should have the new trans by early next week and hopefully I'll be back
on the road by the end of next week.
Well, I guess that I will be avoiding the Second Mountain mud hole from now
on.
Bill and Deb Haegele and Betsy and Oliver (The Fourwheeling Puppies)
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From: JUMPINFORDaol.com
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:18:55 EDT
Subject: Re: Transmission Problems - Bad News
In a message dated 5/25/00 4:45:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
BLUESKY636aol.com writes:
<< Well, I guess that I will be avoiding the Second Mountain mud hole from
now
on. >>
I can understand not wanting to hurt the truck, but Id look at this as an
obstacle to overcome. The obstacle being how to keep the truck from fryin
its guts.... We wouldnt have made it to the moon with that attitude :)
Good luck with the truck, Cant go to long without hearin about your travels,
It helps to calm my offroading itch....
Darrell and Tweety
"Fight for the cause!"
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