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offroad-list Digest Mon, 27 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 035

In This Issue:
Re: burning brake line
Re: burning brake line
Re: [Re: burning brake line]
new and old Bronco "HELP"
ADMIN: Mail storage
> anyone in abq??
Re: ADMIN: Mail storage
> Re: ADMIN: Mail storage
> ADMIN: Nascar Craftsman Truck Series forum added

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:37:59 -0500
From: James Oxley thecore.com>
Subject: Re: burning brake line

Chris Reilly wrote:
>
> hey all
> Seems the rig (79 F250 HD) had some problems yesterday. And I'm not
> quite sure what's up, maybe someone has some insight.
> I was out 4-wheeling for a couple hours, playing around in the mud,
> did a little power braking standing on the pedal and burning the tires in
> 2wd. well later on I got up a real nasty hill , and when I crest the top I
> notice that hte pedal is really soft and there's some smoke under the hood.
> GEt out, pop the hood and the two steel brake lines runnning down from the
> master cylinder are hot as hell, in fact they got to be glowing red and a
> little flame (1/2") actually started on one of them, I'd imagine that was
> oil burning off. So, put ot the flame and douse the lines with water to
> cool them. LEt sit for awhile, then test them, and the brakes are
> practically gone, they go all the way to the floor and then finally do a
> real shitty job of stopping me. We added a lil brake fluid, and I drove
> home, but the situation did not seem to get any better. thank god for low
> gears and compression braking.
> My thought is that it may have something to do with the power brakes
> > booster. The flexible brake lines fdrom the frame to caliper were cool too.
> Any one have any thoguhts, I could really use some input. I don't want to
> start replacing parts that may not be replacing. oh yeh, for reference in
> terms of what I was stopping, truck has 38" gumbos. thanks in advance.
> Chris Reilly
>

I was going to say you boiled the brake fluid, but if the lower lines
were not hot, I don't know. Maybe the lower lines being rubber were not
hot to the touch. Brake fluid absorbs water and then boils easily. I
would totally flush it first (after you fix any trashed parts).

OX

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:22:38 -0600
From: Mike Garoppo dynasty.net>
Subject: Re: burning brake line

You might have cracked a line which with pressure pumped fluid on the hot exhaust
> and started the fire. This would explain the lines on top being hot but not the
bottom ones. Hope this helps.....................................

Fordman


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Date: 27 Mar 00 19:15:49 EST
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: burning brake line]

James Oxley thecore.com> wrote:
> Chris Reilly wrote:

> > My thought is that it may have something to do with the power
brakes > > > booster.

I wouldn't 'expect' that to be the case, nothing there to really generate any
heat that I can think of.

> >The flexible brake lines fdrom the frame to caliper were cool too.
> > Any one have any thoguhts,

Just how far from the exhaust manifold (header?) are the lines? Slogging
around in the mud and power braking would get the manifold pretty darn hot
(think of a picture showing an engine during a dyno run.. nice red hot exhaust > usually.) Add in the slow speed involved for lack of airflow underhood and
maybe you've got the cause. I'd expect the master cylinder to be toast after
this too, but that's an educated guess based on the above speculation.

> > terms of what I was stopping, truck has 38" gumbos. thanks in advance.

That's a lot to stop with crappy brakes! I'm glad I wasn't in front of you.



>
> I was going to say you boiled the brake fluid, but if the lower lines
> were not hot, I don't know. Maybe the lower lines being rubber were not
> hot to the touch. Brake fluid absorbs water and then boils easily. I
> would totally flush it first (after you fix any trashed parts).
>
> OX

Amen to the flushing OX. It's an interesting question for sure and I know I'm
waiting to find out what did happen.

Tim

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From: "Terry" ticnet.com>
Subject: new and old Bronco "HELP"
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:24:59 -0600

Anybody know if the newer 80's C4 transmissions in 4X4's have the same
output shaft for the transfer case as the early Bronco's?


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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:23:28 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Mail storage >
Many of the people with ford-trucks.com or ford-trucks.net accounts
are either not checking their mail or in the case of ".com" addresses,
not having their mail software delete the messages after retrieval.

This situation is getting out of control, with half the mail queue
space being taken up by mail 3-9 weeks old. This weekend, I will be
installing software that will delete all mail over 3 weeks old. FTE
is not meant for online storage of mail.


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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:32:29 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Bas van der Veer dds.nl>
Subject: anyone in abq??


Hey I'm from california and it looks like I'm going to be in albuquerque,
NM for a little while for business. Is anyone from the list living in that
area?? Would be cool to have a little get together, maybe have lunch or
so & kick some tires, go sight seeing whatever.. It's my first time going
over there!

Bas.




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From: "davidl" tbcnet.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Mail storage > Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 03:13:08 -0600

Ken i have not been able to get to the mail thru yahoo. what do i use for
the server and the pop i get an error


Mail Account Server (e.g., pop.myisp.com)
Mail Account Username
Mail Account Password not displayed for security purposes
Port Number (standard port #: 110)
Download to Folder
Inbox

Leave mail on POP server
Retrieve new messages only
Use filters
Indicator:

hope you can help me out.
then i wont be one of those people
Thanks Dave,













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Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 8:29 PM
Subject: [offroad-list] ADMIN: Mail storage >

>Many of the people with ford-trucks.com or ford-trucks.net accounts
>are either not checking their mail or in the case of ".com" addresses,
>not having their mail software delete the messages after retrieval.
>
>This situation is getting out of control, with half the mail queue
>space being taken up by mail 3-9 weeks old. This weekend, I will be
>installing software that will delete all mail over 3 weeks old. FTE
>is not meant for online storage of mail.
>
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From: "davidl" tbcnet.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Mail storage > Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 03:46:23 -0600

Ken i fixed the problem with my mail i will get mine thined out
thanks for your hard work

Dave
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Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 8:29 PM
Subject: [offroad-list] ADMIN: Mail storage >

>Many of the people with ford-trucks.com or ford-trucks.net accounts
>are either not checking their mail or in the case of ".com" addresses,
>not having their mail software delete the messages after retrieval.
>
>This situation is getting out of control, with half the mail queue
>space being taken up by mail 3-9 weeks old. This weekend, I will be
>installing software that will delete all mail over 3 weeks old. FTE
>is not meant for online storage of mail.
>
>==========================================================
>To unsubscribe, send email to: listarford-trucks.com with
>the words "unsubscribe offroad-list" in the subject of the
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:00:49 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Nascar Craftsman Truck Series forum added

A "Nascar Craftsman Truck Series" forum has been added to
the web site message boards. In addition being a place for
you to discuss the races, I'll also be posting Ford truck
series press releases there.

Ken Payne
Admin




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