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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:34:07 -0500
To: fordtrucks mindspring.com
From: "Clayton W. Sherman"

Please remove my name from the mailing list.

Thanks
Butch

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:19:23 -0500 (EST)
To: fordtrucks mindspring.com
From: BIGCARNUT aol.com
Subject: ken, please stop!


ken, do me a favor? please remove my address from your e-mail for this truck
forum! i use the pc for business and receive 20 to 30 hits a day for
rechroming bumpers. i sent you a e-mail a few hrs ago. i would love to work
with you and the trucks on any thing i do. but i don't need the forum e-mail.
i thing someone not from your bbs asked me for a 42 to 47 ford 1 ton fenders.
anybody can help? jerry
big carnut

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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 08:42:29 -0500
To: fordtrucks mindspring.com
From: kpayne mindspring.com
Subject: Model year coverage

It seems I will be the minority here, but I suggest having the list cover all
model year Ford trucks. The reason being is that I own two: a 1997 F-350 4x4
and a 1978 F-250 4x4. I am in the process of selling the '78, and once it's
gone, the list would no longer be relevant to me if it only covered earlier
model years. Unfortunately, my ability to obtain good information about the
new one has been quite limited--contrary to the experiences of others. Why
not start it out broad with a disclaimer that the pertinent model years will
have to be narrowed if the list becomes overwhelmed?

Just my thoughts...
Todd

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:58:50 -0700
To: fordtrucks mindspring.com
From: phlatart artnet.net
Subject: Re: Model year coverage

>
> I suggest having the list cover all
>model year Ford trucks. The reason being is that I own two: a 1997 F-350
>4x4 that the pertinent model years will
>have to be narrowed if the list becomes overwhelmed?
>
>Just my thoughts...
>Todd


Would it be possible to choose from the list to have a few lists going to
your mail box?? The early years and the newer years? Would ken be able to
have this done automatically with the server program he's running??

Tony


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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 16:05:55 MST
To: fordtrucks mindspring.com
From: tedk col.hp.com
Subject: Re: Model year coverage and a question



Hi all!

Glad to see a list for us to discuss Ford truck related
items. Good job Ken for taking the initative.

As far as limiting the years for this list...I am not
for limiting right now.
My reasons are as follows:
- the current list is still relatively small
- since there are other resources for newer trucks
they can be exploited first then questions can come
to this list
- this list is for Ford trucks

That's my vote...If it gets to broad it can be limited
later, but if we limit it now it may not grow.


As for my background. I own a 1971 Ford F250 4x2 camper
special (390 under the hood). It is a second owner truck
and in fairly good shape. My wife got tired of the "70's
lime green" and took after it with some spray cans one
afternoon, the truck is now spray can white.
Her parents owned the truck and gave it to us (a free truck!
who can beat that). My biggest complaint is the cost of
driving the beast (single digit mpg). Looking for ways to
improve that, maybe change the rearend to higher gearing.


Ted Keller

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Date: 05 Feb 97 19:38:10 EST
To: "INTERNET:fordtrucks mindspring.com"
From: 102200.2315 CompuServe.COM
Subject: Re: apologies and some good news


I would very much like to be included in your list. I own a 1978 Ford F100
Ranger short bed stepside. I am in the process
of rebuliding the bed. I have it disassembled and new oak boards cut and
varnished with spar varnish. I would like to put
new sides on the bed. The problem is that I can get them for a 72 but not for a
78. Any help on finding the sides would be
appreciated. I think that the person talking about the rear axle probably
answered my question about why a 72 is different
from a 78. I live in North Carolina so I would like to find some bedsides in
this area.

Also, my wife is the computer whiz in the family. Do I just reply to the forum
using E-Mail?

Thanks for your effort in starting this forum.

Dave Robinson

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 22:14:02 -0500
To: fordtrucks mindspring.com
From: kpayne mindspring.com
Subject: going live and changing server software


After numerous technical problems with the server software,
I've given up on it. I'm in the process of installing
ListServ, the premiere list server software (been around
since 1986, years before Majordomo). It'll take a dent out
of my wallet ($90), but I've gotten major recommendations for
this package. Luckily I hadn't sent the check for the other
software package.

On your end:

a. it'll eliminate postings with my address in addition to
your address
b. no more duplicate postings
c. no more bounced and lost messages (there have been about
150 on this end!)
d. no transition, the changeover will be automatic for the
list/digest members
e. same smooth trouble-free operation as major university
mailing lists (its essentially the same software, only with
a smaller license).
On my end:

a. Robust, time tested software that doesn't rely on the
customers for debugging.
b.

I've successfully implemented and tested some automation
software (CSTest, produced by Platinum technology, sorry
couldn't resist a plug for one of my company's products).
The list should be live by Saturday night/Sunday morning.
List messages will be gathered and re-broadcast every
30 minutes. As list membership goes up, gathering will
occur more often. Current membership is 58 list, 2
digest. Not bad for one week of operation!

Hopefully you guys won't have to deal with any more weird
problems! Anyways, sorry for rambling, just wanted everyone
to be informed.

Ken
kpayne mindspring.com

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:21:57 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: test message
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

test message number one

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:41:46 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: test message number two
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

This is a test

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:03:00 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: list is up and running
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

The list email address is: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Everyone should be subscribed. I'll put together detailed
information later tonight. Just send your mail to this address.
Can't give you more now. Taking the wife out for dinner.
In the mean time, have fun! Send away!

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:09:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike
Subject: Missing 'O' 'R' & 'D' from back panel of '88 Ranger.
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

HI all,
I have a '88 Ranger missing the O, R, and D from the back panel on the
tailgate. I called Ford and they said the only way to replace them is to
replace the entire back panel. I sure that this is more costly than I can even
imagine. I have looked at a couple of junk-yards in the area, but no luck. I
think they are only on '88 Rangers (and possibly Bronco's).
Anways, anyone know of another way to replace these missing letters???

Thanks in advance,

Mike in Rochester

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:48:37 -0500 (EST)
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: Valve sizes: 360 and 390-4V
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Don`t worry about valve size. The 360 heads are the same size as 390. If
you wantmore air flow find 428cj heads. The valves are bigger both intakes
and exhausts. Anther trick is to put 428 valves in your 360-390 heads. In
reply to the clutch problem check the damper springs on the clutch disc.
They may be weak or broken. Some remans never check these. An automatic
trans that shudders or chatters may be in need of an adjustment or
starting to get badly in need of new clutch packs. Hope this helps.
Garry
mcat epix.net
--- On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:00:18 -0500 (EST) Richard Cherico
wrote:
Right now I've got a '68 F100 with the 360 motor. I've put on a 4bbl
manifold and an Edelbrock 1406 (600cfm). Everybody has asked me if I've
installed bigger valves to allow for the extra flow. As far as I've read,
all of the FEs, save the 427 and some of the CJs all use the same valve
size
(correct me if I'm wrong). The only engine I don't have information on
is,
you guessed it, the 360. If anybody has any helpful information, I'd
really
appreciate it, because I'm beginning a search for 390-4V heads if there is
a
difference in valve sizes. Thanks a lot.

bigric mail.utexas.edu

Name: Molly & Garry Catalano
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 2/10/97 Time: 4:31:36 PM

The two sureties in life: death & taxes.
Be an undertaker or an accountant.
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:22:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Dave
Organization: Internet Gateway Corporation
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Missing 'O' 'R' & 'D' from back panel of '88 Ranger.
References:
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

You might want to try your local sign making shop. I has some emblems
made for my motor bike that the dealer wanted an outrages amount of
money for. I had two sets made and it came to $15 Canadian!
I don't think that you should have any trouble. Also phone a body shop
and ask what they would do.
Dave

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:21:16 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: bigric mail.utexas.edu
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico)
Subject: RE: Valve sizes: 360 and 390-4V
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Don`t worry about valve size. The 360 heads are the same size as 390. If
>you wantmore air flow find 428cj heads. The valves are bigger both intakes
>and exhausts. Anther trick is to put 428 valves in your 360-390 heads. In
Good deal. That's exactly what I was looking for-no extra need to run to
the machine shop. Thanks a lot for saving me the work.


>reply to the clutch problem check the damper springs on the clutch disc.
>They may be weak or broken. Some remans never check these. An automatic
>trans that shudders or chatters may be in need of an adjustment or
>starting to get badly in need of new clutch packs. Hope this helps.
I think this is part of someone else's message, but thanks for the help anyway.
bigric mail.utexas.edu

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:23:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Doug Neely
To: Ford Truck
Subject: Thanks Clutch
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Thanks to all for re's on my clutch problem, it probably is the disk
springs as it is a reman disk, I have a good FMX and new converter
so I may change it in the future and live with bull low for now

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:17:35 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne atl.mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: RE: rear dif cases
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 08:33 PM 2/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>--- On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:40:20 -0500 (EST) Ken Payne
-snip-
>>reply to the clutch problem check the damper springs on the clutch disc.
>>They may be weak or broken. Some remans never check these. An automatic
>>trans that shudders or chatters may be in need of an adjustment or
>>starting to get badly in need of new clutch packs. Hope this helps.
>
>>Garry
>
>>
>Ken,
>A while back I wrote to you about rear carriers . Can`t you just change
>the center member. It would save a lot of work. You can change it in less
>than an hour. Centers range 75-150 depending on gears and traction locs.
>Also count the number of splines on your axle and in side the carrier. Let
>me know what you find.
>Garry
>mcat epix.net
>

Thanks to your timely advice earlier, that's exactly what I'm planning.
You've saved me a ton of time and trouble, not to mention back pain!
Who would you recommend I get the parts from? Also, what specifically
do I need to ask for? I've seen gear sets and differentials in Summit.
Do I need both? I know that the four bears would need replacement
also, wouldn't make sense not to change them if I'm going to have it
open. BTW, its 28 spline.


>
>ken wrote:
>
>Garry,
>
>I think I may have described my problem with the automatic tranny
>incorrectly.
>In my case its the rear end that shudders, not the transmission as in the
>case of manual. I tracked it down to worn bearings in the differential
>which
>in turn has destroyed a u-joint and the carrier bearing.
>
>




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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:55:48 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: bboogaar mail.telusplanet.net
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Bill Boogaart
Subject: Hi
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Well, I made it. List member #60. I'll try not to mention some of those
'other' makes I own. ;-)



Bill

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.telusplanet.net/public/bboogaar/flathead.htm

Looking for 1942 - 1947 Ford Express (1 ton long wheel base pickup) NOS
rear fenders and NOS waterfall grille.


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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 01:19:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Nick Finney
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: rear dif cases
References:
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Ken Payne wrote:
>
> Thanks to your timely advice earlier, that's exactly what I'm planning.
> You've saved me a ton of time and trouble, not to mention back pain!
> Who would you recommend I get the parts from? Also, what specifically
> do I need to ask for? I've seen gear sets and differentials in Summit.
> Do I need both? I know that the four bears would need replacement
> also, wouldn't make sense not to change them if I'm going to have it
> open. BTW, its 28 spline.
>

Check to make sure the old diff is in good shape and then reuse it. Get
a new ring and pinion gear set if the old gear teeth are too worn. The
ring and pinion should be a matched set. Try to call Currie Enterprises
for hard to find Ford 9" parts.

--
Nick Finney
nfinney earthlink.net

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:50:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Kevin Lindstedt
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Heating/Air Conditioning vacuum leak?
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hello-

I have a 1978 F150 XLT Lariat 460/C6 with air conditioning. When the
truck is running I hear a fairly loud vacuum hiss under the dash. Now I
understand the damper doors, etc... are vacuum driven, but should the
vacuum noise be this loud? BTW everything does work as it should, so if
it is a leak it is not very large. Any ideas?

Thanks
Kevin Lindstedt

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:03:01 -0500 (EST)
From: "BANTZ, STEVE"
To: "'FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com'"
Subject: intro
Encoding: 16 TEXT
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I'd just like to drop a short note introducing myself to the Ford Truck
mailing list. I am a 24 year old Network Engineer working for John
Deere. I own a 1993 Ford F-150 Lightning #5255, black. I have only
owned the truck for a month or so, but in that time this truck has
impressed me with it's power. Even more impressive is the handling this
truck offers, showing that it can compare to sports cars designed
specifically to handle. Anyway, I plan on modifying this vehicle as I
have with each vehicle I have owned in my life. I plan on starting with
Basani headers and exhaust and then maybe a MAF conversion from speed
density. After I recover from the expense involved in the two I may opt
for a Kenne Bell 6 psi supercharger to bring out a little more ooomph.

I have a small page on my truck and other vehicles at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.forbin.com/~sbantz/light.html

Thanks

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:13:41 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: ssilverthorn mail.front.net
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Steve and Diana Silverthorn
Subject: Re: New to list
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hello Folks,

I'm also new to the list, as number 58, and its great to see a forum for on
Ford Trucks, as it has been my
observation that the WWW in general is a bit thin on F-100 stuff (compared
to that other make).

I have a 1956 F-100 that's mostly original, except it has a Chev 350 with
the 350 tranny and a Ford 9" rear end that I put in last year. I use it as
a daily driver in the summer, but it still needs lots of work.

I am located in Toronto Canada and belong to the Southern Ontario Classic
Pickup Club, which is a local club
that has about 60 members and about 40 trucks, and it caters to only 48-56
Fords. I've included its URL in case your interested to have a look:
X-URL: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classicar.com/clubs/socp/socp.htm

I look forward to communicating with you guy's

thanks Steve

PS. Have any of you been to the Spring Carlisle show, and is there lots of
stuff for 50's pickups?
I'm thinking of going this year.

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:33:56 -0500 (EST)
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: RE: rear dif cases
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

--- On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:17:35 -0500 (EST) Ken Payne
wrote:

>At 08:33 PM 2/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>--- On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:40:20 -0500 (EST) Ken Payne
>-snip-
>>>reply to the clutch problem check the damper springs on the clutch
disc.
>>>They may be weak or broken. Some remans never check these. An automatic

>>>trans that shudders or chatters may be in need of an adjustment or
>>>starting to get badly in need of new clutch packs. Hope this helps.

>>
>>>Garry

>>
>>>
>>Ken,

>>A while back I wrote to you about rear carriers . Can`t you just change
>>the center member. It would save a lot of work. You can change it in
less
>>than an hour. Centers range 75-150 depending on gears and traction locs.

>>Also count the number of splines on your axle and in side the carrier.
Let
>>me know what you find.
>>Garry

>>mcat epix.net
>>
>
>Thanks to your timely advice earlier, that's exactly what I'm planning.
>You've saved me a ton of time and trouble, not to mention back pain!
>Who would you recommend I get the parts from? Also, what specifically
>do I need to ask for? I've seen gear sets and differentials in Summit.
>Do I need both? I know that the four bears would need replacement
>also, wouldn't make sense not to change them if I'm going to have it
>open. BTW, its 28 sp
>>
>>
> Ken.

>>If you need brgs I would try a brg house that speciales in industrial
componets such as geardrives and the such. Here in western NY we have two
places. Erie Brgs and Kaman Brgs. They can get almost any thing
imagineable. The info a place like this needs tok know can be found in
aparts manual or the numbers on the brgs themselves. The are generaly half
to two thirds lower than fords parts and the same or better in quality.
Gear sets can be had at Summit or National drive tran. If you have a local
wrecking yard you can score a complete third member possably with posi
Then it would a matter of changing spider gears from 31 to28. Nine in
carriers fit from 57 to 81. Car and trucks both used them.Vans are good
possibitys for posi units. Watch out for the 8 in carriers they look
similar to the 9 in. My 56 has 373 posi and Iam planning 411s with Detroit
locker and an N case. On e other thing Summit has the shim kitif you
decide to re build yours.
>>
>>Garry
>
>
>
>
>____________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:30:02 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Heating/Air Conditioning vacuum leak?
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 08:50 AM 2/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello-
>
>I have a 1978 F150 XLT Lariat 460/C6 with air conditioning. When the
>truck is running I hear a fairly loud vacuum hiss under the dash. Now I
>understand the damper doors, etc... are vacuum driven, but should the
>vacuum noise be this loud? BTW everything does work as it should, so if
>it is a leak it is not very large. Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>Kevin Lindstedt
>

Check the brake booster. Also, sometimes the fitting that goes into
the manifold (the brass one with several vacuum connections) will
develope leaks around the fitting ends. This can be fixed easily
with solder.


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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:41:20 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Building list of suppliers
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

As an addition to the Ford Trucks web page
(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~kpayne/ford),
I would like everyone to send in Names, numbers and addresses of Ford Truck
parts
> suppliers, new, NOS or used. This is especially important for older parts.
I've
got a list I'm building to put on the page. So far I have 8, located mostly
in the Southeast (since I'm from Georgia). Please include a brief
description of
the supplier. I will call each one and ask if they would like to be listed.
This
will fit in ok with our non-commercial charter as it will be merely a
listing, not
ads or prices.

Also, please send in scanned photos of your truck if you want it listed
in the Ford Truck pictorial. I would really enjoy some Mercury truck
photos as they are both rare and beautiful trucks.

List Status:
The list has grown and activity has gone up since we went to a true list server.
Membership today went up by 11 members, probably more to come tonight. Total
membership is now 68 (gained 11, lost 2).


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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:59:33 -0500 (EST)
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: Re: New to list
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Steve

welcome Nice tosee another 56er. Im in western NY sw of buffalo and east
of erie Pa. I go to Carlisle both spring and fall. If you never been there
its well worth going. Plan on spending four days because its huge. Bring
your walking shoes. There are 80 acres of
parts and cars. My 56 is a blue
blooded 427 medium riser. Nine in rear c6 trany beefed. This is a dayly
summer driver. Any showes or cruise-ins info up there? send info.

Garry
mcat epix.net

--- On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:13:41 -0500 (EST) Steve and Diana Silverthorn
wrote:

>Hello Folks,
>
>I'm also new to the list, as number 58, and its great to see a forum for
on
>Ford Trucks, as it has been my
>observation that the WWW in general is a bit thin on F-100 stuff
(compared
>to that other make).
>
>I have a 1956 F-100 that's mostly original, except it has a Chev 350 with
>the 350 tranny and a Ford 9" rear end that I put in last year. I use it
as
>a daily driver in the summer, but it still needs lots of work.
>
>I am located in Toronto Canada and belong to the Southern Ontario Classic
>Pickup Club, which is a local club
>that has about 60 members and about 40 trucks, and it caters to only
48-56
>Fords. I've included its URL in case your interested to have a look:
>X-URL: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classicar.com/clubs/socp/socp.htm
>
>I look forward to communicating with you guy's
>
>thanks Steve
>
>PS. Have any of you been to the Spring Carlisle show, and is there lots
of
>stuff for 50's pickups?
>I'm thinking of going this year.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:03:21 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: dwentz popd.ix.netcom.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: New to list
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

> I own a 1950 Ford F-1. It has an original Flathead V-8 in it. It is in
>all around good condition, but still has a lot of restoration to be done on it.

Hey! Small world. I've got a 50 F1, I just put a 351C in it a few months
ago. I still have a ton of work to do on it. I'd love to hear from owners
of the older Fords. As a matter of fact, I've got a webpage dedicated to
the restoration of my truck. It's still not finished, but hopefully it's
interesting. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/3623.

~Dan


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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:29:56 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: ssilverthorn mail.front.net
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Steve and Diana Silverthorn
Subject: Re: Truck shows
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Gary,

Thanks for the blurb on Carlisle. I'm going to head down for the April
show, and take my walking shoes!
You asked about any shows in Canada. Well beleive it or not there is a
very nice Ford show going into
its 3rd year in a town called Arthur, Ontario, Canada about one hour north
of Toronto. Last year they
had over 100 trucks, most between the years of 1948-1956 and all quality
trucks.
That's the only show I go to each year.
Mainly because its so close to where I live. That can't be too far for
you, I think you need to bring the
56 up to show her off.


At 09:59 PM 2/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Steve
>
>welcome Nice tosee another 56er. Im in western NY sw of buffalo and east
>of erie Pa. I go to Carlisle both spring and fall. If you never been there
>its well worth going. Plan on spending four days because its huge. Bring
>your walking shoes. There are 80 acres of parts and cars. My 56 is a blue
>blooded 427 medium riser. Nine in rear c6 trany beefed. This is a dayly
>summer driver. Any showes or cruise-ins info up there? send info.

Thanks Steve
>
>Garry
>mcat epix.net
>
>--- On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:13:41 -0500 (EST) Steve and Diana Silverthorn
> wrote:
>
>>Hello Folks,
>>
>>I'm also new to the list, as number 58, and its great to see a forum for
>on
>>Ford Trucks, as it has been my
>>observation that the WWW in general is a bit thin on F-100 stuff
>(compared
>>to that other make).
>>
>>I have a 1956 F-100 that's mostly original, except it has a Chev 350 with
>>the 350 tranny and a Ford 9" rear end that I put in last year. I use it
>as
>>a daily driver in the summer, but it still needs lots of work.
>>
>>I am located in Toronto Canada and belong to the Southern Ontario Classic
>>Pickup Club, which is a local club
>>that has about 60 members and about 40 trucks, and it caters to only
>48-56
>>Fords. I've included its URL in case your interested to have a look:
>>X-URL: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classicar.com/clubs/socp/socp.htm
>>
>>I look forward to communicating with you guy's
>>
>>thanks Steve
>>
>>PS. Have any of you been to the Spring Carlisle show, and is there lots
>of
>>stuff for 50's pickups?
>>I'm thinking of going this year.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:51:47 -0500 (EST)
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: newguy
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,4,8-10
From: mattroe juno.com (Matthew W Roe)
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hello ,
Well i currently own a 73 F100 with a 351C in it . I am in the middle of
restoring the body . I built the engine back last fall and had the C4
tranny rebuilt to racing standards last spring . It has a 9" rear end
with a 3.00:1 gear ratio .
I use it for a daily driver and weekend racer . I am looking for a cheap
bed for it since mine is rusted out . I would also like to have a single
four barrel high rise for the 2 barrel cleveland heads . If anyone knows
of where i can find one for cheap i would appreciate it . Thanks .

Matt Roe

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:10:59 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: dwentz popd.ix.netcom.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: newguy
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>I use it for a daily driver and weekend racer . I am looking for a cheap
>bed for it since mine is rusted out . I would also like to have a single
>four barrel high rise for the 2 barrel cleveland heads . If anyone knows
>of where i can find one for cheap i would appreciate it . Thanks .

I don't know your idea of cheap, but Edelbrock makes a 4 barrel intake for
the 2 barrel heads. It's a pretty nice piece and it's what I'll put on my
Cleveland.

~Dan


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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:19:03 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: bigric mail.utexas.edu
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico)
Subject: Re: Heating/Air Conditioning vacuum leak?
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>I have a 1978 F150 XLT Lariat 460/C6 with air conditioning. When the
>truck is running I hear a fairly loud vacuum hiss under the dash. Now I
>understand the damper doors, etc... are vacuum driven, but should the
>vacuum noise be this loud? BTW everything does work as it should, so if
>it is a leak it is not very large. Any ideas?

Maybe it's the brake booster. My '68 did that (which has a booster/master
assy from a '72) and drove like stink because of the huge vacuum leak.
Here's an easy check: with the engine running, remove the vacuum hose from
the check valve on the booster (that plastic 90o angled plastic piece) and
put your finger over the the end of the hose. If the RPMs drop or the
engine sounds different, then the booster is your problem. Replacing should
run you under $100 new/reman and will seriously improve your driveability.
bigric mail.utexas.edu


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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:33:13 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: bboogaar mail.telusplanet.net
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Bill Boogaart
Subject: Building list of suppliers
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>I would like everyone to send in Names, numbers and addresses of Ford Truck
> parts
> >suppliers, new, NOS or used. This is especially important for older parts.

Pick-ups Northwest
7130 Bickford Ave.,
Snohomish, WA 98290
206-568-9166
fax 206-568-1233

LeBaron Bonney
6 Chestnut Street
PO Box 6
Amesbury, MA 01913-0006
508-388-3811
fax 508-388-1113

Bob Drake Reproductions
1819 NW Washington Blvd
Grants Pass, OR 97526
503-474-0043
fax 503-474-0099
800-221-3673 (orders only)

Dennis Carpenter Reproductions
PO Box 26398
Charlotte, NC 28221-6398
704-786-8139
fax 704-786-8180

Vintage Ford
Parts
> 11318 Beach Blvd
Stanton, CA 90680
714-894-5464

Macs Antique Auto
Parts
> PO Box 337
Lockport, NY 14095-0337
716-433-1500
800-777-0948 (orders only)

Vintage Auto
Parts
> 24300 Highway 9
Woodinville, WA 98072
800-426-5911

The Old Car Centre
19909 92A Ave
Langley, BC
Canada, V3A 4P8
604-888-4412
604-888-4055



Bill

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.telusplanet.net/public/bboogaar/flathead.htm

Looking for 1942 - 1947 Ford Express (1 ton long
wheel base pickup) NOS
rear fenders and NOS waterfall grille.


____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:52:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary Gadwa
To: FORDTRUCKS
Subject: New On the List
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I'd just like to introduce myself. I am a FORDaholic. Presently
in the Truck line I have a 1990 F250HD 351 4x4 Supercab that I have
tinkered with till I can hardly find anything else to tinker with. More
than happy to elaborate further at a later date. Also a confirmed
Explorer addict, presently a 1996 XLT that I just installed the K&N
> FilterCharger unit on. Not done yet!!! Also doing a ground up
Restoration on my 1931 Model A Ford Victoria(Sorry this one's not a
truck). My wife,for 27 years, thinks I'm nuts but I can't stop tinkering
with FORD's. I'm just a backyard mechanic, but my Dad was a FORD
Mechanic and Service Manager for over 22 years so you can see FORD is in
my blood line.
Look forward to interacting with the FORD TRUCK list.

Gary Gadwa
Box 50
STANLEY, IDAHO
83278


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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:23:06 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: cwebb mail.ctainforms.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: cwebb ctainforms.com (Christopher E. Webb)
Subject: Engine Books
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hi everybody, I'm new to the list. I am the proud, but occasionally
frustrated new owner of a 1977 F-250 with a 460/V8. My fiance and I are
trying to do some of the work on the truck ourselves, but are having trouble
finding good references for the engine. The Chilton's manual we have
doesn't have much for an engine this size. If anyone has any suggestions for
books relating to this engine, or to this model of the 250, would you let me
know? Thanks.

Julia Bender

Julia Bender
1977 F-250 with 460ci V8


____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:40:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Doug Neely
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Engine Books
References:
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Christopher E. Webb wrote:
>
> Hi everybody, I'm new to the list. I am the proud, but occasionally
> frustrated new owner of a 1977 F-250 with a 460/V8. My fiance and I are
> trying to do some of the work on the truck ourselves, but are having trouble
> finding good references for the engine. The Chilton's manual we have
> doesn't have much for an engine this size. If anyone has any suggestions for
> books relating to this engine, or to this model of the 250, would you let me
> know? Thanks.
>
> Julia Bender
>
> Julia Bender
> 1977 F-250 with 460ci V8
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
There's a book called Ford Peformance by Pat Ganhal,its printed by
S-A Design Books,515 West Lambert,Bldg E Brea,Ca 92621-3991 .
It covers 289s-460s with plenty of specs and lots of good bits
of info, you should find it in most performance parts dealers

Cheers,
Doug

____________________________________________________________________

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:35:06 -0500 (EST)
Sender: "Andy Rose"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: "Andy Rose"
Subject: re:Building list of suppliers
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Have you got the information for the Obsolete Ford Parts? There is one
in Ok City and another in Georgia?

If not, I'll find the catalog and send the info your way.

Andy
1950 F-1
1990 F-150
1994 Explorer

In message "Building list of suppliers", you write:

:As an addition to the Ford Trucks web page

:(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~kpayne/ford),
:I would like everyone to send in Names, numbers and addresses of Ford Truck
: parts
> :suppliers, new, NOS or used. This is especially important for older parts.
:I've
:got a list I'm building to put on the page. So far I have 8, located mostly
:in the Southeast (since I'm from Georgia). Please include a brief
:description of
:the supplier. I will call each one and ask if they would like to be listed.
:This
:will fit in ok with our non-commercial charter as it will be merely a
:listing, not
:ads or prices.
:
:Also, please send in scanned photos of your truck if you want it listed
:in the Ford Truck pictorial. I would really enjoy some Mercury truck
:photos as they are both rare and beautiful trucks.
:
:List Status:
:The list has grown and activity has gone up since we went to a true list server.
:Membership today went up by 11 members, probably more to come tonight. Total
:membership is now 68 (gained 11, lost 2).
:
:
:____________________________________________________________________
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:To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
:For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
:Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
:
:


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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:36:11 -0500 (EST)
Sender: "Andy Rose"
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: "Andy Rose"
Subject: Re: New to list
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

A 351C in a Bonus Built? As Tim Allen would say "oargh, oargh, oargh" (or
something like that.. we all know what I mean, but how would you spell it?)

Pops gave me the truck with the original Flathead 8 and tranny in it, but I
have kicked around the idea of poppin' a 351C in it... just out of curiosity
How much cuttin' and squeezin' did it take to put the 351C in the 50 F-1?

Andy


In message "New to list", you write:

:> I own a 1950 Ford F-1. It has an original Flathead V-8 in it. It is in
:>all around good condition, but still has a lot of
restoration to be done on it.
:
:Hey! Small world. I've got a 50 F1, I just put a 351C in it a few months
:ago. I still have a ton of work to do on it. I'd love to hear from owners
:of the older Fords. As a matter of fact, I've got a webpage dedicated to
:the restoration of my truck. It's still not finished, but hopefully it's
:interesting. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/3623.
:
:~Dan
:
:
:____________________________________________________________________
:Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
:To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
:For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
:Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
:
:


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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:16:30 -0500 (EST)
From: wrrhodes
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: new F250HD
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hello to all:

When will the new Ford truck body style show up on the F-250 HD models?

Bill

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:29:32 -0500 (EST)
From: JLINETT sysubmc.bmc.com
Subject: Re: Pigeon Forge Show
To: FORDTRUCKS LOFCOM.COM
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS LOFCOM.COM

>Never been to the show you mentioned. However, the Ford truck show in
>Pigeon Forge, Tenn is a blast. I'm going again this year.

We spent some time in PF last year on vacation, and really enjoyed it.
The motels are so cheap, it's hard to believe. Don't forget the Elvis
museum and Smokey Mountain Nat'l Park.

When/where is the show?

Thanks,
Jon in Houston
'96 F350/XLT/4x4/Offroad/T444E/ZFS5-47/3.55/regular cab

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:57:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Hazewinkel
Organization: Valparaiso University
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new F250HD
References:
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

wrrhodes wrote:
>
> Hello to all:
>
> When will the new Ford truck body style show up on the F-250 HD models?
>
> Bill
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
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> To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com


I believe the restyled F250's will be out late spring\early summer this
year. I saw one this week at the Chicago Auto Show, very sharp !

Jeff

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:14:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Glen Pace
Subject: Re: new F250HD - Reply
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
X-VMS-To: IN%"FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com"
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

What type of drivetrain does it have ?
Is the new F-350 4x4 a solid front axle?
Are they using the allision auto trans?
Is it true there will be a 6spd. stick (NV5500)
I know I am asking alot but I am very interested in the new
truck
Thanks in advance
Glen

96 F-350 4x4
77 F-250 4x4


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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:15:22 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: czech en.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: czech en.com (Ray Czech)
Subject: Re: new F250HD
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I have been trying to find this out for a while.

As I understand it the F250HD will be 98 models with the new body style.

I was first told October, 97. Now someone told me that they saw something on
TV, maybe a commercial, and that they tought it would be March.

Waiting & waiting....
Ray


>Hello to all:
>
>When will the new Ford truck body style show up on the F-250 HD models?
>
>Bill
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
>To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
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>Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com


____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:19:11 -0500 (EST)
From: "BANTZ, STEVE"
To: "'FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com'"
Subject: new Lightning
Encoding: 10 TEXT
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Has anyone heard any news on whether SVT will make a new generation of
Lightning based on the F-150? That would be really nice to see and I
would probably consider buying one. Maybe they could base it on the
Cobra R 351W.


>--
>Steve Bantz
>sbantz hs.deere.com
>1993 Ford Lightning #5255

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:16:17 -0500 (EST)
Sender: "Andy Rose"
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
From: "Andy Rose"
Subject: New Body Style
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I must be the only Ford owner in the world that is really unhappy about the
new body style on the F-Series. The F-150 front end looks like a Taurus
front end on steroids, imho.

The front end looks good on the Explorer, but I don't like the look on the
F-Series. I do like the 3rd door on the extended cab.

I guess I'll be keeping my 90 F-150 4x4 LWB forever now... :)

Andy

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:42:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Payne
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: New Body Style -Reply
Content-Disposition: inline
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> "Andy Rose" 02/12/97 11:16am >>>
>I must be the only Ford owner in the world that is really unhappy about
>the new body style on the F-Series. The F-150 front end looks like a
>Taurus front end on steroids, imho.

>The front end looks good on the Explorer, but I don't like the look on the
>F-Series. I do like the 3rd door on the extended cab.

>I guess I'll be keeping my 90 F-150 4x4 LWB forever now... :)

>Andy

No, you're not the only one. I think it looks like jello with a
windshield. Hate to say it, but as some local Ch*vy
commercials said years ago:

"Don't you buy no ugly truck."



____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:47:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Payne
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: re:Building list of suppliers -Reply
Content-Disposition: inline
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>>> "Andy Rose" 02/12/97 06:35am >>>
>Have you got the information for the Obsolete Ford Parts? There is one
>in Ok City and another in Georgia?
>
>If not, I'll find the catalog and send the info your way.
>
>Andy
>1950 F-1
>1990 F-150
>1994 Explorer

Believe it or not, I've got the name and address for the one in
Ok, but not Georgia. Really kinda funny when you consider
its most likely within a few miles of me. Send in the Georgia
one! Thanks.

BTW, to all list members:
If you need to send me email concerning the list and get a quick
response, send email to payne platinum.com before 5:30 EST
and to kpayne mindspring.com after 5:30EST.



____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:16:33 -0500 (EST)
From: JLINETT sysubmc.bmc.com
Subject: Re: New Body Style
To: FORDTRUCKS LOFCOM.COM
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS LOFCOM.COM

"Andy Rose" wrote:

>I must be the only Ford owner in the world that is really unhappy about the
>new body style on the F-Series. The F-150 front end looks like a Taurus
>front end on steroids, imho.

Not at all. I think the new body style is hideous, and not just the front-
end treatment. The sides look as though the truck has been in a wreck,
and to top it all off, I have heard that the bed will dimple the cab in
rough conditions. Lucky that the 3/4 and 1-tons got a year's reprieve.

>I guess I'll be keeping my 90 F-150 4x4 LWB forever now... :)

Ditto. (1996)

I liked the old squared-off body even more than I like my '96, although it
has grown on me. And I still think Ford has the nicest fire- engine red
(Ford Bright Red) around.

Maybe if trucks were still bought to be used as trucks, they would continue
to be made to look like trucks...

Jon

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:29:39 -0500 (EST)
From: lsmeins ball.com (Larry Smeins)
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com (FORDTRUCKS)
Organization: Ball Corporation
Subject: RE: New Body Style -Reply
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

----------
From: FORDTRUCKS
To: FORDTRUCKS
Subject: New Body Style -Reply
Date: Wednesday, February 12, 1997 2:42PM


>>> "Andy Rose" 02/12/97 11:16am >>>
>I must be the only Ford owner in the world that is really unhappy about
>the new body style on the F-Series. The F-150 front end looks like a
>Taurus front end on steroids, imho.

>The front end looks good on the Explorer, but I don't like the look on the
>F-Series. I do like the 3rd door on the extended cab.

>I guess I'll be keeping my 90 F-150 4x4 LWB forever now... :)

>Andy

No, you're not the only one. I think it looks like jello with a
windshield. Hate to say it, but as some local Ch*vy
commercials said years ago:

"Don't you buy no ugly truck."



And here's another. I debated on waiting for the new body style and new
mechanicals but opted to buy a F250 Supercab Powerstroke 4x4 in '95'. I saw
my first new style 150 driving home one night and when arriving home I told
my wife I was sure glad we hadn't waited to buy our new truck. She was the
one that encouraged me to get the '95' rather than wait. I have to admit
I'm getting used to the new style and don't find it as offensive as the
first sight but I still prefer my old one.

Larry (new to the list)

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:40:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Gamer2000 aol.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: New Body Style
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

In a message dated 97-02-12 13:48:17 EST, you write:


the
new body style on the F-Series. The F-150 front end looks like a Taurus
front end on steroids, imho.

The front end looks good on the Explorer, but I don't like the look on the
F-Series. I do like the 3rd door on the extended cab.

I guess I'll be keeping my 90 F-150 4x4 LWB forever now... :)
>>
Your not the only one, I don't like the look of the new F-series. They
don't look like they were built to last, and I haven't seen one with a manual
trans yet. I dont like the newer ranger designs either. I like the look of my
87, it looks like a truck, not a car/truck/hybrid.
BTW- Does anyone know if the manual trans is still available on the F-Series?



____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:46:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Payne
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Pigeon Forge F100 Nationals
Content-Disposition: inline
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Someone requested this info. Point your browser to

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~kpayne/ford

The Ford / Mercury Trucks List web page now has a
new "Upcoming Events" link. The Pigeon Forge, Tenn
event is the first Ford truck event to be listed with dates,
and show hotel number.

Please send me any information you have about other
Ford / Mercury truck shows. Or any truck show if it
includes Fords.



____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:53:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Hazewinkel
Organization: Valparaiso University
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: New Design
References:
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I may be in the minority, but I like the new design. I traded in my 94
F150 in May for a 97 4x4 extended cab and I love it. This truck has the
best ride of any truck I have owned and many great inovations over the
96.

Jeff

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:44:55 -0500 (EST)
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: Re: Engine Books
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Chris,

Pick up acopy of FORD F-SERIES PICKUP owers bible from Clasic Motorbooks.
Itgives some good info on these trucks. Asfor motor info try FORD
PERFORMANCE and HOW TO REBUILD YOUR FORD V-8 351c-351m-400-429-460 also
from Classic.
Garry
mcat epix.net
56 f-100 427 powered & 82 f250 406 powered
--- On Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:40:14 -0500 (EST) Doug Neely
wrote:

>Christopher E. Webb wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody, I'm new to the list. I am the proud, but occasionally
>> frustrated new owner of a 1977 F-250 with a 460/V8. My fiance and I
are
>> trying to do some of the work on the truck ourselves, but are having
trouble
>> finding good references for the engine. The Chilton's manual we have
>> doesn't have much for an engine this size. If anyone has any
suggestions for
>> books relating to this engine, or to this model of the 250, would you
let me
>> know? Thanks.
>>
>> Julia Bender
>>
>> Julia Bender
>> 1977 F-250 with 460ci V8
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________________
>> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
>> To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
>> For help send a message with "HELP" in the body
to:list-request lofcom.com
>> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
>There's a book called Ford Peformance by Pat Ganhal,its printed by
>S-A Design Books,515 West Lambert,Bldg E Brea,Ca 92621-3991 .
>It covers 289s-460s with plenty of specs and lots of good bits
>of info, you should find it in most performance parts dealers
>
> Cheers,
> Doug
>
>
____________________________________________________________________

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:48:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Paul
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: New to list
References:
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I'm Paul Gayda. My son & I had a 56 pickup; now, I'm working on a 55
Panel in great condition...only 51,000 miles, and has been garaged since
new. I'm updating with my 78 351W & C6, and looking for a newer rear so
that I can bolt in my pumpkin from the 78 van. I converted it over to
12volts by carefully disassembling the van wiring, and installing it in
the 55. I am nearly, but not completely finished with this; the truck
is under a carport, but it's cold here in Shenandoah Valley of Virginia
(Waynesboro). I still have a lot of work to go, but the truck is in
such good shape it's really a lot of fun.

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:54:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Paul
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: '55 stuff for sale cheap
References:
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

In the process of upgrading my 55 panel, I have the complete 239 ohv V8,
3 spd standard trans, and related parts for sale cheap. The
engine/trans are complete, and I carefully removed them so as not to
damage anything.

I also have a solid shell of a 55 panel truck for sale; it has had the
Chrysler front suspension modification, and I began to restore it until
I found my current panel project.

Both items are just in the way, and I will sell both cheap. I'm in
Virginia.

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:41:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Rogers
Subject: Engine question/forsale
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I've got a 262 straigt six and 3 spd tranny that came out of a
64 F100. The engine ran when it was pulled, however it was tired
and needs rebuilding. Anybody out there know what it might be worth.
I'm interested in selling both the tranny and the engine. Since pulling
the six, I've rebuilt a chevy 350 for the 64, and have yet to rebuild
a 350 tranny. I'm curious if anybody else out there had installed a 350 in
the 61-64 series truck, and what they did for exhaust (ie headers). Should
I have some made or try and fit headers for a different application into my
Ford engine compartment.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Chris
carogers mtu.edu


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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:55:55 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: dwentz popd.ix.netcom.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: New to list
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 07:36 AM 2/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>A 351C in a Bonus Built? As Tim Allen would say "oargh, oargh, oargh" (or
>something like that.. we all know what I mean, but how would you spell it?)

And I still have the stock 3.91 gears in the rear, so "oargh, oargh, oargh"
(however you spell it) is just what I say when accelerating--mainly because
my intestines move around to my back!

>Pops gave me the truck with the original Flathead 8 and tranny in it, but I
>have kicked around the idea of poppin' a 351C in it... just out of curiosity
>How much cuttin' and squeezin' did it take to put the 351C in the 50 F-1?

Would you believe that the 351 dropped right it? It did. Honestly it looks
like it was designed to go there. As an extra bonus, the C4 tranny's mount
lined up perfectly with the stock crossmember. And the driveshaft from a 66
Mustang (V8) happens to fill up the space between the tranny and rear end
quite well (in case anyone is thinking about this same swap). The only
problems I've encountered are minor--there ain't much clearance between the
fan and radiator, so if you do it, use the smallest fan spacer you can get
away with. Also, the exhaust pipe hits the steering box--but block hugger
headers will take care of this...if I ever find any for the 2V heads...

Oh, one other thing. I don't want to sound like I'm spamming here, but
someone might be interested. I have my original Flathead engine and I'd
like to sell it. Email me if you're interested.

~Dan


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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:28:51 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: bigric mail.utexas.edu
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico)
Subject: Re: New Body Style
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>I must be the only Ford owner in the world that is really unhappy about the
>new body style on the F-Series. The F-150 front end looks like a Taurus
>front end on steroids, imho.
You're not alone.
>The front end looks good on the Explorer, but I don't like the look on the
>F-Series. I do like the 3rd door on the extended cab.
I agree-it's supposed to be a truck, not a comfy family hauler. I'm still
eager to see how the new front end works out now that they've scrapped the
old Twin I-Beam. At the lease, it will save us all from having to keep
replacing those darned radius arm bushings.

>I guess I'll be keeping my 90 F-150 4x4 LWB forever now... :)
I'll be hanging on to my '92 Bronco as well, as the new Expedition (or
Explorer on steroids) doesn't really "do it" for me.

'68 F100 Stepside 360
bigric mail.utexas.edu


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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:54:16 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: New Design
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 04:53 PM 2/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I may be in the minority, but I like the new design. I traded in my 94
>F150 in May for a 97 4x4 extended cab and I love it. This truck has the
>best ride of any truck I have owned and many great inovations over the
>96.
>
>Jeff
>

This design seems to be one people either hate or love. But like
most designs, it's the sudden change "shock value" that turns some
people off. Although I don't care for the Taurus, it doesn't seem
as ugly as it did when it first came out. The new F150 is the same,
I don't like it but my dislike is mellowing out with time.

This topic is a can of worms! If nothing else, it's gotten the
discussion going quite a bit.




____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:04:31 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: New to list
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 08:55 PM 2/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>At 07:36 AM 2/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>A 351C in a Bonus Built? As Tim Allen would say "oargh, oargh, oargh" (or
>>something like that.. we all know what I mean, but how would you spell it?)

-snip-
>
>Oh, one other thing. I don't want to sound like I'm spamming here, but
>someone might be interested. I have my original Flathead engine and I'd
>like to sell it. Email me if you're interested.
>

Private party ads are allowed and encouraged. Vendor participation
is also encouraged so long as they don't use the list for advertising.



____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:08:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Nick Finney
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: New Body Style -Reply
References:
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Ken Payne wrote:
>
> >>> "Andy Rose" 02/12/97 11:16am >>>
> >I must be the only Ford owner in the world that is really unhappy about
> >the new body style on the F-Series. The F-150 front end looks like a
> >Taurus front end on steroids, imho.
>
> >The front end looks good on the Explorer, but I don't like the look on the
> >F-Series. I do like the 3rd door on the extended cab.
>
> >I guess I'll be keeping my 90 F-150 4x4 LWB forever now... :)
>
> >Andy
>
> No, you're not the only one. I think it looks like jello with a
> windshield. Hate to say it, but as some local Ch*vy
> commercials said years ago:
>
> "Don't you buy no ugly truck."
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
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> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com

I don't like it's loos either.
Looks like a upsidedown bathtub on wheels.

--
Nick Finney
nfinney earthlink.net

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:13:22 -0500 (EST)
From: yhtlines surfari.net
X-Sender: yhtlines surfari.net
To:
Subject: New subscriber
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Just got the announcement of this lists on "Fordnatics". Good idea! (ok,
Great idea!). I'll post something here just to see how it goes.

I just sent in a Quality questionaire mailer that Ford sent w/regards to my
'95 F150. A vehicle that I love dearly, but it has some irritating issues
unresolved yet. Thought I would mention them and see what others have to say.

BTW, I've had it since May 96 and have 31000 miles on it.
Paint and rust. My truck was built in Canada., and the paint and primer was
missing on the cab drip rails, and at the rear window upper seam. For now,
the local dealer body shop has it under control, but I will review all of it
with him at 35,000 miles. Also, I've had to use some rust killer on seams
around the radiator. All of this leads me to believe there was less than
total quality on my all white paint job. Any one else have a common
experience on a late model?

THere is a TSB out on frame rivets. My front member sounds like it is very
loose at times. Should I ask them to replace the rivets with bolts, per TSB?
Will this affect front end alignment?

And the idler pulley on the 5.0 motor occasionally squeals when cold. Yes,
there is a TSB on it also. I definitely plan to get it replaced, but
typically it makes no noise when I want to take it in.

Any thoughts on these areas would be appreciated. Like I said, otherwise I
love the vehicle. With power, a 'smart' auto-matic tranny, towing and
handling packages, it does everything I want it to.

Dave Lampert 95 F150, 86 GT
yhtlines surfari.net


____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:17:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Nick Finney
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: FE Power!!!!
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Any one have any idea where I can locate a four bolt/crossbolted mains
Ford FE Big Block in Southern California? This is the Engine that was
the 428. I want to put one in my truck. Whats the pricing and
availability?

Contemplating a little drag strip action for the "beast".
"Oargh!","Oargh!","Oargh!"

Any one have any comments concerning my sanity and NHRA drag racing a
truck (there are other trucks to compete with)?



--
Nick Finney
nfinney earthlink.net

69 F100 390FE

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:34:04 -0500 (EST)
From: "David McCormick"
Subject: re- flathead engine
> To: "Ford Trucks"
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Dan, I wonder if anyone knows whether that flathead was the same
engine that
folks were putting in the Ford N tractors (e.g., Funk conversions; there were
some sixes, but also, I think, some 8's) in place of the standard 4 cylinder
flathead engine. If it is, you might have better luck selling that block to
a tractor jock. Post back with any additional info. about the engine and if
you're interested, I could put you in touch with a couple of sources that
might be interested.

I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Dave McCormick. Currently, I
have three fords, a 1948 8N tractor that i'm in the process of refurbishing,
a 73 F-100 and a 96 F-250 Powerstroke. I subscribed looking for discussion
and tips mainly regarding my 96. The 73 truck, btw is currently for sale.

Cheers,

Dave
mccormickd njc.org


____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:41:57 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: New subscriber
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 11:13 PM 2/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Just got the announcement of this lists on "Fordnatics". Good idea! (ok,
>Great idea!). I'll post something here just to see how it goes.
>
>I just sent in a Quality questionaire mailer that Ford sent w/regards to my
>'95 F150. A vehicle that I love dearly, but it has some irritating issues
>unresolved yet. Thought I would mention them and see what others have to say.
>
>BTW, I've had it since May 96 and have 31000 miles on it.
>Paint and rust. My truck was built in Canada., and the paint and primer was
>missing on the cab drip rails, and at the rear window upper seam. For now,
>the local dealer body shop has it under control, but I will review all of it
>with him at 35,000 miles. Also, I've had to use some rust killer on seams
>around the radiator. All of this leads me to believe there was less than
>total quality on my all white paint job. Any one else have a common
>experience on a late model?
>
>THere is a TSB out on frame rivets. My front member sounds like it is very
>loose at times. Should I ask them to replace the rivets with bolts, per TSB?
>Will this affect front end alignment?
>
>And the idler pulley on the 5.0 motor occasionally squeals when cold. Yes,
>there is a TSB on it also. I definitely plan to get it replaced, but
>typically it makes no noise when I want to take it in.
>
>Any thoughts on these areas would be appreciated. Like I said, otherwise I
>love the vehicle. With power, a 'smart' auto-matic tranny, towing and
>handling packages, it does everything I want it to.
>
>Dave Lampert 95 F150, 86 GT
>yhtlines surfari.net
>
>

It seems that Ford has had quite a few problems with paint lately. It
mostly seems (from my unscientific perspective) that its the basic
types of paint - white, black, baby blue, etc. Check out rec.autos.tech
in the newsgroups. Someone there posts information regularly on this
problem, along with a web site and status of complaints to Ford.

With proper maintenance, that Ford should last a lifetime. My 67 now
has 287,000 miles, only real problem has been with the u-joints and
drive shaft but that's to be expected with this kind of milage.



____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:44:41 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: kpayne mindspring.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FE Power!!!!
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 11:17 PM 2/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Any one have any idea where I can locate a four bolt/crossbolted mains
>Ford FE Big Block in Southern California? This is the Engine that was
>the 428. I want to put one in my truck. Whats the pricing and
>availability?
>
>Contemplating a little drag strip action for the "beast".
>"Oargh!","Oargh!","Oargh!"
>
>Any one have any comments concerning my sanity and NHRA drag racing a
>truck (there are other trucks to compete with)?
>

Don't know about California, but here in Georgia 428s are harder to
come by. 390s are a dime a dozen, and give nearly the same
performance with a minor amount of tweaking (trust me on this one,
I've tweaked my 390FE and it's a monster).



____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 01:01:38 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: bigric mail.utexas.edu
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: bigric mail.utexas.edu (Richard Cherico)
Subject: Re: FE Power!!!!
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

And speaking of FE power, I know I've been bugging you all about my '68 F100
360, but if anybody has some tips on squeezing a few extra horsepower out of
one of these brutes, I'd be extremely grateful. It's all stock right now
except for a 4bbl 352 intake fed by an Edelbrock 1406 (600CFM) and fired by
a Mallory Unilite electronic unit fed by an Accell Supercoil.

If anybody can help me eliminate my carburetor backfire, I'd also appreciate
the help. So far, I've:
-replace all pushrods
-replaced severely worn distributor
> -replaced extremely leaky
brake booster
-replaced very loose timing chain
I've got the timing correct (6o BTDC) as well. If it helps, the backfire
also existed with the original Autolite 2100A 2bbl on the original intake.
The backfire usually occurs when the engine is cold, usually when starting
from a stop, and when in a lower RPM range while trying to accelerate.

Thanks again for any help/leads.
bigric mail.utexas.edu


____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 06:33:56 -0500 (EST)
From: mcat epix.net
Subject: Re: '55 stuff for sale cheap
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

How muchfor the panel? Does it include fenders and hood?
Any ideas where I can find 56 coe? Have 48 coe cab complete I would sell
or trade.
Garry
mcat epix.net
--- On Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:54:23 -0500 (EST) Paul
wrote:

>In the process of upgrading my 55 panel, I have the complete 239 ohv V8,
>3 spd standard trans, and related parts for sale cheap. The
>engine/trans are complete, and I carefully removed them so as not to
>damage anything.
>
>I also have a solid shell of a 55 panel truck for sale; it has had the
>Chrysler front suspension modification, and I began to restore it until
>I found my current panel project.
>
>Both items are just in the way, and I will sell both cheap. I'm in
>Virginia.
>
>____________________________________________________________________
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to:list-request lofcom.com
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>
>

-----------------End of Original Message-----------------


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Name: Molly & Garry Catalano
E-mail: mcat epix.net
Date: 2/13/97 Time: 6:30:38 AM

The two sureties in life: death & taxes.
Be an undertaker or an accountant.
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____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:52:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert J Schreiner
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Another new guy.
References:
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hello everyone,

I just joined the list yesterday and thought I'd introduce myself and my
projects.
My name is R.J. Schreiner, I live in Pgh. Pa. I'm currently working on
a '54 f-100, I also own a '53 f-350 a '79 f-150 and a '83 f-250 diesel.

So here's my first question, My shifter on the '79 broke yesterday (3 on
the tree). Where can I get the pot metal piece that the shifter goes
into? I checked a couple junk yards and have had no luck... I can only
imagine what the dealer would want :(

Thanks in advance.
RJ.

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:51:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "Henry Van Dyke"
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: New subscriber
X-Msmail-Priority: Normal
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Dave

Question for you.... I own a '94 F250 4X4, can you tell me if the TSB
covers the F250 also...I have a front end that sounds like it wants to fall
out...

Henry Van Dyke
'94 F250 Supercab 4X4, XLT, Power Stroke, 5 speed, 3.55

----------
> From: yhtlines surfari.net
> To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
> Subject: New subscriber
> Date: Wednesday, February 12, 1997 11:13 PM
>
> THere is a TSB out on frame rivets. My front member sounds like it is
very
> loose at times. Should I ask them to replace the rivets with bolts, per
TSB?
> Will this affect front end alignment?


____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:02:12 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: cain syrres.com
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
From: David Cain
Subject: Re: New subscriber
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 08:51 AM 2/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Dave
>
>Question for you.... I own a '94 F250 4X4, can you tell me if the TSB
>covers the F250 also...I have a front end that sounds like it wants to fall
>out...
>
>Henry Van Dyke
>'94 F250 Supercab 4X4, XLT, Power Stroke, 5 speed, 3.55
>

Sorry, all I have is a '89 2WD Ford Ranger.

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____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:33:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Houkal
To: "'FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com'"
Subject: vale job
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I posted this once back in the very early days of the list with no response, but we'll try again. My 89 e-150 has apparently burned a valve. The dealer, possibly in the interest of selling me a new truck says not to repair it as the rings will surely go away within minutes of completeing the job. My question is, is this true? does a high mile engine(152K ) have to be completely re-built if the valves go? the rings were able to withstand the compression before the valve went, why not now? If any one has succesfully done just the valves on a high roller, please let me know.
Thanks, Eric

____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:40:53 -0500 (EST)
From: mvaugh - Mark Vaught
To: "'FORDTRUCKS....


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