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97up-list Digest Sun, 04 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 029

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Me again,
Re: Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Ratio to
Re: Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Ratio to Get??
Re: Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Ratio to Get??
Good Responses to Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Rati
99 E-350 van questions

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From: "Keith Veren" <spectrum-ehs worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Me again,
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:02:31 -0500


I am ordering the truck on tuesday, not monday as in my previous e-mail.
Thank you!

Keith


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Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 23:16:28 -0600
From: tvsjr <tvsjr sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Ratio to

Keith-

One of my trucks is a 2000 F-250 SD with the 5.4 V8 in it and the 4.10 rear
end. For stock tires, the combination is about right, though I wish I
would've gotten the 3.73 with the V-10 now... Anyway, if you are going to
go with larger tires and a lift, I would have to say the 4.30 rear end.  Be
prepared for terrible gas mileage - my truck gets 12MPG, regardless of how
I drive.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off-road.com/tools/gearcalc.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com/fl/procrastination/rear.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jeepgod.net/calculator.html

Check out these three sites. The last one is particularly good. It will let
you calculate how fast the engine will be turning for a given tire size and
final drive ratio. Do some playing around. I bet you'll discover that the
3.73 with big tires will drop your engine RPM so low that you'll be outside
the power band of the engine.

I'm looking at ordering a new 2001 Expedition, and was thinking about a
3.31 or 3.55 rear end for fuel economy. I quickly discovered that I want
the 3.73 rear end behind the 5.4 in the new Expedition with 17" wheels,
because the 3.55 puts the overdrive outside the power band, and the 3.31
(obviously) is even worse.

Terry

At 11:58 PM 3/3/01 -0500, you wrote:
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>I am ordering a F-350 SuperDuty / SuperCab / 4-WD / 8' Bed (Long bed) /
>Single Rear Wheels / Lariat / 6.8L V-10 and every other heavy-duty package
>available, like the snowplow package, off road package, Class V (they
>upgraded from class IV 12/4/2000) Trailer receiver hitch, power-take-off on
>the automatic transmission; also getting the goodies like heated leather
>seats, reverse sensing system, Radio w/6CD changer, cab lights, etc.  (by
>the way, Bright Red (not "tutone"), Graphite interior, captains chairs).
>
>My only concern is the axle.  I have a choice of the 3.73 Limited Slip or
>the 4.30 Limited Slip.  [You cannot get the 2001 with the 6.8L V-10 with the
>4.10 Limited slip, no way, no how, unless you go diesel, or bed-delete and
>manual trans, etc.]  I loved my last V-10 [265 HP
>and 385 foot-pounds torque) and this year it is 310 HP and 425 foot pounds
>torque]
>
>I considered the diesel because you can get the 4.10 Axle; however, I do a
>lot of short to medium trips, and not a lot of cross-country towing and also
>I plow, and you cannot get the snowplow package with the diesel! (too heavy
>in the front).  I had the 3.73 on my 1999 SuperDuty XLT 4X4 and it seemed
>OK, but for plowing it grunted a little.  On the other hand, it was great at
>70 on the highway (no matter how I drove, I got either 10 MPG or, when
>plowing, 5 MPG ).
>
>I plan to put a nice 31/2 to 4" lift in the front and 2" in the rear to
>level it out and standing it up a little taller, now, If I do that I will
>most likely want larger tires (taller).  Taller tire would in effect make
>the 4.30 gears seem more like 4.10s or lower depending on how much taller
>the tires are.  If I put taller tire on the 3.73, I would reduce the final
>ratio to the equivalent of 3.50 or 3.23, again, depending on tire height.
>
>I would like some opinions and, if anyone has dealt with this issue, some
>experience sharing.  I order on Monday afternoon.  Thank you all in advance
>for you help.
>
>Keith
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From: "Joe M" <merchjo bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Ratio to Get??
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:33:05 -0500


Question

My friend who is a landscaper bought a super duty last year with the diesel
and he got a plowing package.

If your set on the gas engine, go with the 4.30 esspecially if going with
bigger tires.

just my .02

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Subject: [97up-list] Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Ratio to Get??


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I am ordering a F-350 SuperDuty / SuperCab / 4-WD / 8' Bed (Long bed) /
Single Rear Wheels / Lariat / 6.8L V-10 and every other heavy-duty package
available, like the snowplow package, off road package, Class V (they
upgraded from class IV 12/4/2000) Trailer receiver hitch, power-take-off on
the automatic transmission; also getting the goodies like heated leather
seats, reverse sensing system, Radio w/6CD changer, cab lights, etc.  (by
the way, Bright Red (not "tutone"), Graphite interior, captains chairs).

My only concern is the axle.  I have a choice of the 3.73 Limited Slip or
the 4.30 Limited Slip.  [You cannot get the 2001 with the 6.8L V-10 with the
4.10 Limited slip, no way, no how, unless you go diesel, or bed-delete and
manual trans, etc.]  I loved my last V-10 [265 HP
and 385 foot-pounds torque) and this year it is 310 HP and 425 foot pounds
torque]

I considered the diesel because you can get the 4.10 Axle; however, I do a
lot of short to medium trips, and not a lot of cross-country towing and also
I plow, and you cannot get the snowplow package with the diesel! (too heavy
in the front).  I had the 3.73 on my 1999 SuperDuty XLT 4X4 and it seemed
OK, but for plowing it grunted a little.  On the other hand, it was great at
70 on the highway (no matter how I drove, I got either 10 MPG or, when
plowing, 5 MPG ).

I plan to put a nice 31/2 to 4" lift in the front and 2" in the rear to
level it out and standing it up a little taller, now, If I do that I will
most likely want larger tires (taller).  Taller tire would in effect make
the 4.30 gears seem more like 4.10s or lower depending on how much taller
the tires are.  If I put taller tire on the 3.73, I would reduce the final
ratio to the equivalent of 3.50 or 3.23, again, depending on tire height.

I would like some opinions and, if anyone has dealt with this issue, some
experience sharing.  I order on Monday afternoon.  Thank you all in advance
for you help.

Keith

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From: DJBurry aol.com
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:30:18 EST
Subject: Re: Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Ratio to Get??


I would order the 3.73 gears... that is what I have.  I had a 97 PSD with
4.10 gears and had to put a Gear Vendors overdrive on it, which reduced the
rear end to 3.20 and it worked great.   The Power strokes have so much power
the 3.73 is adequate.  A friend ordered a PSD with 4.10 cuz he has a 11
camper and thought he needed the extra low gearing and he is sorry sorry
sorry.  At 75 mph you will turn 2650 RPM with 4.10 and 2000 RPM with 3.73.
Plus the lower gears can wear your engine out quicker cuz you are turning
extra rev's.  I live in Colorado and run the mtns with my PSD and I can run
over all the "Yupmobiles Euro Boxes" going up the passes, towing my
snowmobile trailer fully loaded in over drive...(no lie).  I have a Super
Chip in my PSD, it has all the power your ever dreamed about.  Good luck....

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From: "Keith Veren" <spectrum-ehs worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Good Responses to Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Rati
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:42:14 -0500


So far, with the V-10 which I want (diesel would not like my typical driving
routes), the 4" front 1" rear "leveling lift", and taller tires, the 4.30
gears are getting slightly more positive responses.  In 1999 I had the V-10
with the 3.73s and I knew I could not put bigger tires on it without it
lugging or straining, especially with a load.  On the topic of mileage, any
gas SuperDuty, SuperCab, 8' bed is going to swill gas like a sailor on shore
leave, with the V-10 and the 3.73s in the '99 I only got 10 to 12 (5 when
plowing).  The 10 to 12 (more towards 10) was also mostly running empty.

I really appreciate everyone sharing thier opinions and experience, thank
you and keep sending them! (to the list or my e-mail)
spectrum-ehs worldnet.att.net


Keith


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From: "joel taylor" <taylorjn hotmail.com>
Subject: 99 E-350 van questions
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:52:50


Hello gang. I just recently traded in my 97 F-150 for a 99 E-350 15
passenger van due to my e-x-p-a-n-d-i-n-g family. It has a 5.4 engine in it.
Are there any problems I should keep an eye out for or a place I can run the
VIN number? Also, how can I find out what model the tranny is, and what
ratio the rear is? Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

                                  Joel Taylor
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