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97up-list Digest Fri, 02 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 028

In This Issue:
Door crack fix - Thanks Ken!
Re: Door crack fix - Thanks Ken!
Re: Door crack fix - Thanks Ken!
Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Ratio to Get??

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From: "Clarke, Gary" <Gary.Clarke per-se.com>
Subject: Door crack fix - Thanks Ken!
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:37:25 -0500



Ken you are the MAN!  I called back the dealer, had them look up the TSB,
and now I have an appointment with their body shop to install the kit, which
it turns out, they already had in stock!

This is a great example of how forums like this can work in the favor of
those who take the time to participate.  Thanks to you for running this
list.

Knowledge is power!

Thanks Ken for the information.


RE:
What you read on the Internet IS correct.  Give him the following
info:

TSB 01-2-6: It addresses both door replacements (for cracked
doors) and retro-fit kits (for doors that haven't cracked).
The reinforcement part number is: 1L3Z-15202W06-AA

If he denies it after you give him this info, then he's probably
not someone you need to trust.


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From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:10:47 EST
Subject: Re: Door crack fix - Thanks Ken!


Gary;
I have seen in the past that a lot of dealers really don't like the Internet
and will do everything possible to blow you off if you come in with new info.
They feel the customer is trying to do their job.

Sales people as well will blow off reports from the "Enthusiast" press

The problem is that these guys don't stay current, don't seem to care.
As discussed many times, warranty work is a pain for most of them because of
the low return.

Since you essentially "wupped him upside the head"  ( a good southern
expression) with the TSB number hopefully in the future he will listen and
the word will get out.

I've had the same problem with my GMC Sierra. I bought it because of the door
crack  and torsion bar problem on the Fords. It was a 4x4 with a trailer
package, not the Z71.  When I tried to order the offroad skid plates I was
told by the parts folks that no such thing existed. And this was a graybeard.
I finally had to get a VIN number off of a Z71 in the lot and make him pull
that up and show him what I wanted. Then he found that GM actually made a
post sale kit for the addition. (Cheaper than the individual parts)

He shook his head and told me that in 15 years behind the counter I was the
first person to order that kit.. I believe him. Most of them are sold on
Z71's and locally on the coast there is little need for them But I go offroad
in the mountains and I've scarred the plates twice already.

When I come looking now for some oblique part, I find he listens. Hopefully
you will have the same experience.

JG

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Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:12:59 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Door crack fix - Thanks Ken!



>
>Ken you are the MAN!  I called back the dealer, had them look up the TSB,
>and now I have an appointment with their body shop to install the kit, which
>it turns out, they already had in stock!
>
>This is a great example of how forums like this can work in the favor of
>those who take the time to participate.  Thanks to you for running this
>list.
>
>Knowledge is power!
>
>Thanks Ken for the information.

That great to hear!  It sounds like you have a good
dealer too.  I'm going to be publishing an article
next week detailing this information plus some
information someone at Ford is going to be supplying
me.

For anyone here with an out of warranty truck, as noted
earlier, Ford may not agree to fix it if .  Push the
issue.  Sometimes they can be accommodating but don't
expect miracles.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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From: "Keith Veren" <spectrum-ehs worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Help-Ordering New F-350, Which Gear Ratio to Get??
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:58:38 -0500


I am ordering a F-350 SuperDuty / SuperCab / 4-WD / 8' Bed (Long bed) /
Single Rear Wheels / Lariat / 6.8L V-10 and every other heavy-duty package
available, like the snowplow package, off road package, Class V (they
upgraded from class IV 12/4/2000) Trailer receiver hitch, power-take-off on
the automatic transmission; also getting the goodies like heated leather
seats, reverse sensing system, Radio w/6CD changer, cab lights, etc.  (by
the way, Bright Red (not "tutone"), Graphite interior, captains chairs).

My only concern is the axle.  I have a choice of the 3.73 Limited Slip or
the 4.30 Limited Slip.  [You cannot get the 2001 with the 6.8L V-10 with the
4.10 Limited slip, no way, no how, unless you go diesel, or bed-delete and
manual trans, etc.]  I loved my last V-10 [265 HP
and 385 foot-pounds torque) and this year it is 310 HP and 425 foot pounds
torque]

I considered the diesel because you can get the 4.10 Axle; however, I do a
lot of short to medium trips, and not a lot of cross-country towing and also
I plow, and you cannot get the snowplow package with the diesel! (too heavy
in the front).  I had the 3.73 on my 1999 SuperDuty XLT 4X4 and it seemed
OK, but for plowing it grunted a little.  On the other hand, it was great at
70 on the highway (no matter how I drove, I got either 10 MPG or, when
plowing, 5 MPG ).

I plan to put a nice 31/2 to 4" lift in the front and 2" in the rear to
level it out and standing it up a little taller, now, If I do that I will
most likely want larger tires (taller).  Taller tire would in effect make
the 4.30 gears seem more like 4.10s or lower depending on how much taller
the tires are.  If I put taller tire on the 3.73, I would reduce the final
ratio to the equivalent of 3.50 or 3.23, again, depending on tire height.

I would like some opinions and, if anyone has dealt with this issue, some
experience sharing.  I order on Monday afternoon.  Thank you all in advance
for you help.

Keith


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