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97up-list Digest Mon, 26 Feb 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 024

In This Issue:
5.4L with blown head gasket
Re: 5.4L with blown head gasket
Please Help:  2001 or 2002 F-350 SuperDuty
Re: 5.4L with blown head gasket
Re: 5.4L with blown head gasket
Re: APRIL 14th Sand Dune trip
Re: Door Crack Update

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From: "Clarke, Gary" <Gary.Clarke per-se.com>
Subject: 5.4L with blown head gasket
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:36:44 -0500



Hello all!.

Thought I'd share this with you and see if this has occurred before to
anyone.  My 1999 F150 5.4 XLT with only 16500 miles on it has just came back
from the dealer after having half the engine taken apart to replace the head
gasket on the right bank.

It was leaking oil from the very back of the head, and dripping on to the
exhaust manifold, which is how I found it, the SMELL!

This is the fourth time in 18months this truck has been in the shop for
warranty work.  I saw under the hood while the work was going on, oh boy, I
admire that mechanic, there must have been 1500 parts lying around the
truck, on the floor, on the bench ect.

I have to wonder if Ford will ever catch up to the quality of Toyota, my 5
yr old 4Runner has NEVER been in the shop for anything, in it's 90.000 miles
life.

I wonder how the next generation of F150's will compare quality wise now
that the Tundra has raised the bar a bit.  Anyone know any details about the
next F150?  I read somewhere it would be a 2003 model.

Keep on truckin,  F.A.B.  (anyone watch Thunderbirds as a kid?)




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From: "family email" <kszao prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 5.4L with blown head gasket
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:53:27 -0800


Gary,

Heres one I can answer easily,

Yes the 5.4 and to some extent the 4.6s have a Head gasket problem.

I talked to my buddy a mecanic at the local ford garage , and he says about
1 out of 12, 5.4s  he sees there is oil seepage on the rear of the head on
the right bank. If its going to happen it seems to happen b4 40,000 miles.

The best way is to get under the truck and look up and see if there is oil
seepage. Its ALWAYS in the same spot , Right bank rear of head

Ken


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From: "Keith Veren" <spectrum-ehs worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Please Help:  2001 or 2002 F-350 SuperDuty
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:05:42 -0500


To Anyone:

Does anyone know if any changes are going to be made between the 2001 and
2002 model years for the F-350 SuperDuty V-10 Super Cab Longbed?  I have
heard that the dashboard in the 2002 will be slightly "different", but that
is all I heard.  I do not want to order a 2001 model now and then find in a
few months that if I had weighted and purchased a 2002 I could have had an
extra 40 horsepower in the V-10 or something like that.  On the other hand,
I want to buy now if a new emissions system engine strangler is required for
the 2002s so they have less power.  If they are essentially going to be the
same, then I will probably order a 2001 model this month or in March.
Thanks!

Keith




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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:46:06 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier <jmc.chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: 5.4L with blown head gasket




"Clarke, Gary" wrote:

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> Hello all!.
>
> Thought I'd share this with you and see if this has occurred before to
> anyone.  My 1999 F150 5.4 XLT with only 16500 miles on it has just came back
> from the dealer after having half the engine taken apart to replace the head
> gasket on the right bank.
>
> It was leaking oil from the very back of the head, and dripping on to the
> exhaust manifold, which is how I found it, the SMELL!
>
> This is the fourth time in 18months this truck has been in the shop for
> warranty work.  I saw under the hood while the work was going on, oh boy, I
> admire that mechanic, there must have been 1500 parts lying around the
> truck, on the floor, on the bench ect.
>
> I have to wonder if Ford will ever catch up to the quality of Toyota, my 5
> yr old 4Runner has NEVER been in the shop for anything, in it's 90.000 miles
> life.
>
> I wonder how the next generation of F150's will compare quality wise now
> that the Tundra has raised the bar a bit.  Anyone know any details about the
> next F150?  I read somewhere it would be a 2003 model.
>
> Keep on truckin,  F.A.B.  (anyone watch Thunderbirds as a kid?)
>

    The head gasket is a common problem with the 99 5.4 Tritons.  Has Toyota
really raised the bar?  We will see when they make a real Full Size truck.

    I like TB #2 with all the cool vehicles it would carry.  I never did find
out what F.A.B. stood for.  I saw a show on how the ThunderBirds was filmed.
The cars were the size of go carts.  Neat!

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier


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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:05:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Greg reifsnyder <yjtrendsetter yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 5.4L with blown head gasket



Remember, the 5.4 is a modular design engine.  It has
both timing chains on the front of each head...thus
two entirely different heads.  For some reason, there
is a problem with the pass. side head gasket.  I don't
know why, and I'm not sure ford knows why either. (or
they don't want to say)  It seems to me it's a "wear
in" defect, and not an immediate flaw.  At the
dealership I work at, I've replaced a few and have
seen several replaced.  The mileages ranged anywhere
from 12000 miles to 40000 miles.  Very unsure, but i
very much dislike the designing of the 5.4
Any more ques' please email me :)  Thanks,
YjTrendsetter


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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:14:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Greg reifsnyder <yjtrendsetter yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: APRIL 14th Sand Dune trip


Be lookin forward to seeing you there....

YjTrendsetter


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5-spd AX5 trans
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From: sseeplane juno.com
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 02:32:55 -0600
Subject: Re: Door Crack Update



Well, I took the '98 F150 SC in to get measured for the "fix" this am.

It seems there is a break point at 51mm for which fix you get.  Whether
you're under or over it decides which repair parts are used.  There's
even a fix for doors that don't show signs of cracking yet.  I was under
51mm on my truck.  Now I wait for the parts on order.

Service rep sez they charge 9.5 hrs for the repair.  I tried to get a
look at the multipage printout of repair instructions but the rep was too
protective of them.  I did see the words "using a welding blanket"
....ugh!
He expects the door to be repainted and the truck would be in the shop
for 3 days.  We did agree I would need a loaner.

3 days down time seems a lot for a crack this size but I think Ford
should be accountable for their defective door design...if I didn't get
it fixed the first thing they'd deduct from the trade-in value is the
cracked door.  I'm not letting them off the hook that easy.

Will post the outcome of the repair in a week or so.  I'm still not
totally convinced the "fix" will resolve the problem, yet.

Steve

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