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97up-list Digest Tue, 20 Feb 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 021

In This Issue:
Re: E 350
Re: E 350
Coolant change in 99 4.6L
Re: Coolant change in 99 4.6L
Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Re: Brake Controller
Re: Coolant change in 99 4.6L
Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Re: Redish liquid leeking...

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From: "Keith Veren" <spectrum-ehs worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: E 350
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:02:08 -0500


Since, as we discussed before, you know that I was pleased with my V-10 in
the F-350 SuperDuty Pickup, I have been thinking about your problem.  One
factor in your surging and poor performance may be the transmission.  I have
heard more stories about problem transmissions than V-10 engines.  Even
during idle, a problem transmission can result in roughness, seemingly from
the engine.  The other thing to look for is the ubiquitous vacuum leak, also
in, or associated with, the transmission (besides the engine).  Good Luck!
Let me know what it is when you find out.

Keith


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Subject: [97up-list] E 350


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> I have a 1999 E 350 with a V 10. It runs poorly, surges & runs rough the
dealer says it is normal. Does anyone have any experiences with this motor
that may help me get this thing to run better. I know about chips,but still
have a warranty, and don't want to buy overpriced high test. Are all Ford
dealer idiots or do they just think we are for believing the lame excuses
they give after 7 or 8 visits for the same thing?
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From: ExtemeFear aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:19:44 EST
Subject: Re: E 350


Hi Jim,
 I have first hand experience (as a mechanic) with 1999 15 passenger vans,
V-10.  They purr like a kitten and have excellent power... hauling skiers
from the Denver area to the Colorado Rockies every weekend.

It is NOT normal for the V-10 to run rough or surge.  I'm really impressed
with the smooth clock-like idle of that engine.  If all your Ford dealer did
was to check for codes (the lazy approach to drivability) then he'll never
find the problem with your engine.  You likely have something like a dirty
MAF and/or one or more coils out of spec. Both are semi-common failures.

Go stand on the service writers counter and insist, in a very loud and
threatening way, that he find and cure your complaint.  Or, find another
dealer that gives a hoot about his customers and knows how to diagnose and
fix drivability complaints.  Don't buy the BS that "they all run that way".
They don't!


> I have a 1999 E 350 with a V 10. It runs poorly, surges & runs rough the
> dealer says it is normal. Does anyone have any experiences with this motor
> that may help me get this thing to run better. I know about chips,but still
> have a warranty, and don't want to buy overpriced high test. Are all Ford
> dealer idiots or do they just think we are for believing the lame excuses
> they give after 7 or 8 visits for the same thing?

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:10:41 -0500
From: Lou Mallia <lmallia attglobal.net>
Subject: Coolant change in 99 4.6L


I'm planning on changing the coolant in my 99 F-150 4.6L.  The manual
says it takes 23.9 quarts.  Wow, 6 gallons!

I was wondering how much I can expect to drain through the radiator
"petcock"?  I'd prefer not to remove hoses, but my past experience tells
me that I won't get most of the coolant out without doing that (removing
lower radiator hose).  I suppose I could just drain and refill, but
would rather get it all out, refill with water, run it, cool it, and
drain again, then refill with (mostly) fresh coolant/water mix.

Any experiences changing coolant in this beast?
Thanks,
Lou


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From: ExtemeFear aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:18:47 EST
Subject: Re: Coolant change in 99 4.6L


You can expect to drain around 2 gallons by simply opening the radiator
petcock.  The remainder of the coolant can only be removed by opening the
block drains, blowing out the heater core and draining the hoses.  It's a
messy proposition... stuff doesn't always land where you place the drain pan.

> I'm planning on changing the coolant in my 99 F-150 4.6L.  The manual
>  says it takes 23.9 quarts.  Wow, 6 gallons!
>
>  I was wondering how much I can expect to drain through the radiator
>  "petcock"?  I'd prefer not to remove hoses, but my past experience tells
>  me that I won't get most of the coolant out without doing that (removing
>  lower radiator hose).  I suppose I could just drain and refill, but
>  would rather get it all out, refill with water, run it, cool it, and
>  drain again, then refill with (mostly) fresh coolant/water mix.
>
>  Any experiences changing coolant in this beast?
>  Thanks,
>  Lou
>

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From: "Mark Browning" <mab076 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:40:08 -0500



Hey Guys/gals,

I was wondering why every morning i wake up there is a redish puddle nder my
99 ford f150, they say  they can't find anything... but i know there is
because my driveway looks like crap now!!! spots all over and yesturday my
roommate came to my room and asked me what was running out from under my
truck... i went out and there it was the redish/brown liquid, i got my oil
checked and its full and no leeks whats going on!!! help!!!!

Thanks
Mark Browning
99 F150 2WD 4.2L Automatic
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From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:59:08 EST
Subject: Re: Redish liquid leeking...


Check the fluid level in your transmission and the power steering pump.
That's where reddish oil resides. Assuming it's oil, did you smell it and
feel it. Get it on a lift and check, LEAKS should be obvious.
JG

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From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:08:32 EST
Subject: Re: Brake Controller


There are a couple of versions out there. One that ties mechanically to the
brake pedal others that just tie into the brake light wiring. These are
wholly electronic with an adjustable onset time and force adjustment.

I've got the latter and it has what I feel is a useful feature. It also hooks
into the backup lights so that it turns off the trailer brakes automatically
when you back up. That saves you the bother of releasing the brakes yourself.
So far it's been set it and forget it.

JG

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:30:36 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier <jmc.chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Coolant change in 99 4.6L




Lou Mallia wrote:

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>
> I'm planning on changing the coolant in my 99 F-150 4.6L.  The manual
> says it takes 23.9 quarts.  Wow, 6 gallons!
>
> I was wondering how much I can expect to drain through the radiator
> "petcock"?  I'd prefer not to remove hoses, but my past experience tells
> me that I won't get most of the coolant out without doing that (removing
> lower radiator hose).  I suppose I could just drain and refill, but
> would rather get it all out, refill with water, run it, cool it, and
> drain again, then refill with (mostly) fresh coolant/water mix.
>
> Any experiences changing coolant in this beast?
> Thanks,
> Lou
>
> Lou,

      There are drain plugs on the side of the block.  I also open these to
eliminate all the fluid.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier



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From: "Christian ." <c_bagley hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:09:34 -0500


Reddish/brown fluid is either power steering fluid or transmission fluid.
From the trans, it can leak out of the lines going to the radiator, the pan,
the yoke or the speedometer cable attachment(if you have one).  I would
guess, if they say they cannot find a leak, then it may be coming out of the
yoke(then end of the transmission where the drive shaft inserts into the
trans).  The power steering, just follow the lines to see if it's leaking
and look around the power steering pump.  If you took it to a shop and they
said they can't find any leak, the take it somewhere else.  A leak that bad
should be obvious.  BTW, what part of the truck do you see the puddle
under(front/engine area, middle, or rear)?

Chris
n va


>
>I was wondering why every morning i wake up there is a redish puddle nder
>my
>99 ford f150, they say  they can't find anything... but i know there is
>because my driveway looks like crap now!!! spots all over and yesturday my
>roommate came to my room and asked me what was running out from under my
>truck... i went out and there it was the redish/brown liquid, i got my oil
>checked and its full and no leeks whats going on!!! help!!!!
>
>Thanks
>Mark Browning
>99 F150 2WD 4.2L Automatic

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From: "Mark Browning" <mab076 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:13:50 -0500


Actually Christian it seems to be under and just behind the engine and maybe
a bit in the center of the truck!! Also I notice slipping of my
transmission... when i drive sometimes it won't take the next gear it revs
for a sec or 2 and the clicks in is that normal?



>From: "Christian ." <c_bagley hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [97up-list] Re: Redish liquid leeking...
>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:09:34 -0500
>

>
>Reddish/brown fluid is either power steering fluid or transmission fluid.
>From the trans, it can leak out of the lines going to the radiator, the
>pan,
>the yoke or the speedometer cable attachment(if you have one).  I would
>guess, if they say they cannot find a leak, then it may be coming out of
>the
>yoke(then end of the transmission where the drive shaft inserts into the
>trans).  The power steering, just follow the lines to see if it's leaking
>and look around the power steering pump.  If you took it to a shop and they
>said they can't find any leak, the take it somewhere else.  A leak that bad
>should be obvious.  BTW, what part of the truck do you see the puddle
>under(front/engine area, middle, or rear)?
>
>Chris
>n va
>
>
> >
> >I was wondering why every morning i wake up there is a redish puddle nder
> >my
> >99 ford f150, they say  they can't find anything... but i know there is
> >because my driveway looks like crap now!!! spots all over and yesturday
>my
> >roommate came to my room and asked me what was running out from under my
> >truck... i went out and there it was the redish/brown liquid, i got my
>oil
> >checked and its full and no leeks whats going on!!! help!!!!
> >
> >Thanks
> >Mark Browning
> >99 F150 2WD 4.2L Automatic
>

>

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From: "Christian ." <c_bagley hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:37:31 -0500


No, that's not normal.  It sounds like you have a transmission fluid leak.
Have you checked the level of your trans fluid?  If not, start the truck,
then pop the hood and check the trans fluid.  The dip stick is to the
left(passengers side) of the engine and towards the back side(the
cab/firewall).  You are supposed to check the fluid with the engine running.
 So check it and if it is low, go to the auto parts store and buy a few
quarts of fluid, put in about a half of a quart at a time, checking the
level each time you add until it reaches the full mark.  Then drive it to
see if the slipping stops.  BUT, you really should take it in to a different
shop to see if they could help you out.  I hope this helps.

Chris


>Actually Christian it seems to be under and just behind the engine and
>maybe
>a bit in the center of the truck!! Also I notice slipping of my
>transmission... when i drive sometimes it won't take the next gear it revs
>for a sec or 2 and the clicks in is that normal?
>
>
>
> >From: "Christian ." <c_bagley hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >Subject: [97up-list] Re: Redish liquid leeking...
> >Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:09:34 -0500
> >
>
> >
> >Reddish/brown fluid is either power steering fluid or transmission fluid.
> >From the trans, it can leak out of the lines going to the radiator, the
> >pan,
> >the yoke or the speedometer cable attachment(if you have one).  I would
> >guess, if they say they cannot find a leak, then it may be coming out of
> >the
> >yoke(then end of the transmission where the drive shaft inserts into the
> >trans).  The power steering, just follow the lines to see if it's leaking
> >and look around the power steering pump.  If you took it to a shop and
>they
> >said they can't find any leak, the take it somewhere else.  A leak that
>bad
> >should be obvious.  BTW, what part of the truck do you see the puddle
> >under(front/engine area, middle, or rear)?
> >
> >Chris
> >n va
> >
> >
> > >
> > >I was wondering why every morning i wake up there is a redish puddle
>nder
> > >my
> > >99 ford f150, they say  they can't find anything... but i know there is
> > >because my driveway looks like crap now!!! spots all over and yesturday
> >my
> > >roommate came to my room and asked me what was running out from under
>my
> > >truck... i went out and there it was the redish/brown liquid, i got my
> >oil
> > >checked and its full and no leeks whats going on!!! help!!!!
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Mark Browning
> > >99 F150 2WD 4.2L Automatic
> >
>
> >
>
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From: "Mark Browning" <mab076 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Redish liquid leeking...
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:29:18 -0500


Well...

Guess What, My Tranny is sitting on a table right now at the dealer they
told me its really bad... they told me the seals are broken they tranny is
over heating the gears have error code in the computer really bad stuff...
well see what happens now... thanks for all your help guys/gals with this
problem... Your quick responses saved me again..

Thanks
Mark Browning
99 F150 2WD 4.2L -tranny

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