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97up-list Digest Tue, 30 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 013

In This Issue:
Gibson exhaust/towing
Rear End Ratios
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
302 Serpentine to V-belt, timing cover, HELP!

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From: Richard Ballinger <RBalling distcrt18.state.ks.us>
Subject: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:05:00 -0600


I have two responses for the list:

Rich:    The Gibson I put on the 5.4 150 SC 4x4 is the single out catback
system with the 3inch pipes.  I tow a lot and wanted maximum torque.  I
discovered if you go duel exhaust, it actually decreases the torque.  Also,
the sound is fairly quiet.  It has deepened somewhat, but if you want the
loud rumble, this is not the system for you.  If you want a deep , but quiet
rumble that you can not hear in the cab, and help torque, then you will be
happy.  I did put on the K&N and opened up the air intake and the
combination has not helped the mileage, but has definitely helped the
performance....


Mike:  On my F150, see description above, I tow a Jayco TT that weighs in
around 43000 dry, and it does okay, but I had to beef up the suspension with
the Helwig helper springs (2,500 progressive).  I also modified the engine
as described above to help.  The most important thing I did with the vehicle
was add a tranny temp gauge.  I didn't get fancy, just bought a B&M out of
JEG"S, for around $40 and it goes inline on the return.  It took about 1.5
hours for everything.  It has taught me better driving habits when towing.
I like my 5.4, but would not be comfortable pulling with a smaller engine.
I am unfamiliar with the 4.6 towing.  I drove one couple years ago, but
opted for the bigger engine.  Every once in awhile, I tow my boat, 4,000lb
boat and trailer, and it has no problem.  But it doesn't have the drag the
trailer has, either.  You'd have to use the equalizing hitch.  I have
thought about getting the anti-sway bar that attaches to the equalizer
hitch, to help in high cross wind situations.  I do have to admit, that
after all these modifications,  I went ahead and bought the Excursion V-10
4.3 to pull the TT while the F150 handles the boat.  I love that V-10....let
me know if you have any other questions
Richard..

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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:32:02 -0500
From: cnc <dixieviking pbtcomm.net>
Subject: Rear End Ratios

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How can I determine what ratio my rear end is?  I've got a 97 Ford 4.6 =
150 that I bought used.  Thanks.  Chris
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From: "Mark Browning" <mab076 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:22:36 -0500


I have a quick question, I have a Ford F150 4.2 2WD and i wanted to put on a
K&N airfilter Kit (arm and filter) and a gibson single out exhaust
i was wondering if i have to tune up my engine after i make the mods??? And
you said the mileage wasn't improved, but is it decreased?? and is the
single out exhaust louder then the rest, i just want the power sound, that
improves HP and has enough back pressure that my engine sensors don't
blow...

please let me know
Thank
Mark Browning
Ford F150 99 4.2L 2WD

>From: Richard Ballinger <RBalling distcrt18.state.ks.us>
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: "'97up-list ford-trucks.com'" <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: [97up-list] Gibson exhaust/towing
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:05:00 -0600
>
>
>I have two responses for the list:
>
>Rich:    The Gibson I put on the 5.4 150 SC 4x4 is the single out catback
>system with the 3inch pipes.  I tow a lot and wanted maximum torque.  I
>discovered if you go duel exhaust, it actually decreases the torque.  Also,
>the sound is fairly quiet.  It has deepened somewhat, but if you want the
>loud rumble, this is not the system for you.  If you want a deep , but
>quiet
>rumble that you can not hear in the cab, and help torque, then you will be
>happy.  I did put on the K&N and opened up the air intake and the
>combination has not helped the mileage, but has definitely helped the
>performance....
>
>
>Mike:  On my F150, see description above, I tow a Jayco TT that weighs in
>around 43000 dry, and it does okay, but I had to beef up the suspension
>with
>the Helwig helper springs (2,500 progressive).  I also modified the engine
>as described above to help.  The most important thing I did with the
>vehicle
>was add a tranny temp gauge.  I didn't get fancy, just bought a B&M out of
>JEG"S, for around $40 and it goes inline on the return.  It took about 1.5
>hours for everything.  It has taught me better driving habits when towing.
>I like my 5.4, but would not be comfortable pulling with a smaller engine.
>I am unfamiliar with the 4.6 towing.  I drove one couple years ago, but
>opted for the bigger engine.  Every once in awhile, I tow my boat, 4,000lb
>boat and trailer, and it has no problem.  But it doesn't have the drag the
>trailer has, either.  You'd have to use the equalizing hitch.  I have
>thought about getting the anti-sway bar that attaches to the equalizer
>hitch, to help in high cross wind situations.  I do have to admit, that
>after all these modifications,  I went ahead and bought the Excursion V-10
>4.3 to pull the TT while the F150 handles the boat.  I love that
>V-10....let
>me know if you have any other questions
>Richard..
>

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From: RSnovi aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:33:14 EST
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing

No you do not have to do anything to engine by adding K&N filter, even if it
is filter charger over priced kit, mileage will not decrease unless you have
a heavy foot, it has no effect on sensors.

RS

> I have a quick question, I have a Ford F150 4.2 2WD and i wanted to put on a
> K&N airfilter Kit (arm and filter) and a gibson single out exhaust
> i was wondering if i have to tune up my engine after i make the mods??? And
> you said the mileage wasn't improved, but is it decreased?? and is the
> single out exhaust louder then the rest, i just want the power sound, that
> improves HP and has enough back pressure that my engine sensors don't
> blow...
>
> please let me know
> Thank
> Mark Browning
> Ford F150 99 4.2L 2WD
>





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From: "Runyon, Charlie" <runyonc FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:46:42 -0800


Mark
 I'm not an engineer or anything but I thought I would tell you what I
found when I put one on my truck I put on the K&N pipe and filter and
noticed the engine ran smoother at idle (because it could get air now) and I
had better pick-up when I took off from a light. I also calculated better
gas mileage (about 1 mpg) which helps allot when it cost me over $2.00 a gal
here in Hawaii.
 One thing I wanted to mention was I figure you can open up the goes-in-to
all you want but if you don't put on a larger (50-70 mm) throttle body, then
your still restricting the input. I would think after that you'll really see
changes.
 I know the K&N is expensive but it made changes for me (for the better)
and anything besides stock components has got to be an improvement.
Charlie

Charlie Runyon
Code-213PH
FTSCPAC-DET Pearl Harbor
808-473-0032

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> From: Mark Browning [SMTP:mab076 hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 7:23 AM
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> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
>
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> I have a quick question, I have a Ford F150 4.2 2WD and i wanted to put on
> a
> K&N airfilter Kit (arm and filter) and a gibson single out exhaust
> i was wondering if i have to tune up my engine after i make the mods???
> And
> you said the mileage wasn't improved, but is it decreased?? and is the
> single out exhaust louder then the rest, i just want the power sound, that
>
> improves HP and has enough back pressure that my engine sensors don't
> blow...
>
> please let me know
> Thank
> Mark Browning
> Ford F150 99 4.2L 2WD
>
> >From: Richard Ballinger <RBalling distcrt18.state.ks.us>
> >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: "'97up-list ford-trucks.com'" <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
> >Subject: [97up-list] Gibson exhaust/towing
> >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:05:00 -0600
> >
> >
> >I have two responses for the list:
> >
> >Rich:    The Gibson I put on the 5.4 150 SC 4x4 is the single out catback
> >system with the 3inch pipes.  I tow a lot and wanted maximum torque.  I
> >discovered if you go duel exhaust, it actually decreases the torque.
> Also,
> >the sound is fairly quiet.  It has deepened somewhat, but if you want the
> >loud rumble, this is not the system for you.  If you want a deep , but
> >quiet
> >rumble that you can not hear in the cab, and help torque, then you will
> be
> >happy.  I did put on the K&N and opened up the air intake and the
> >combination has not helped the mileage, but has definitely helped the
> >performance....
> >
> >
> >Mike:  On my F150, see description above, I tow a Jayco TT that weighs in
> >around 43000 dry, and it does okay, but I had to beef up the suspension
> >with
> >the Helwig helper springs (2,500 progressive).  I also modified the
> engine
> >as described above to help.  The most important thing I did with the
> >vehicle
> >was add a tranny temp gauge.  I didn't get fancy, just bought a B&M out
> of
> >JEG"S, for around $40 and it goes inline on the return.  It took about
> 1.5
> >hours for everything.  It has taught me better driving habits when
> towing.
> >I like my 5.4, but would not be comfortable pulling with a smaller
> engine.
> >I am unfamiliar with the 4.6 towing.  I drove one couple years ago, but
> >opted for the bigger engine.  Every once in awhile, I tow my boat,
> 4,000lb
> >boat and trailer, and it has no problem.  But it doesn't have the drag
> the
> >trailer has, either.  You'd have to use the equalizing hitch.  I have
> >thought about getting the anti-sway bar that attaches to the equalizer
> >hitch, to help in high cross wind situations.  I do have to admit, that
> >after all these modifications,  I went ahead and bought the Excursion
> V-10
> >4.3 to pull the TT while the F150 handles the boat.  I love that
> >V-10....let
> >me know if you have any other questions
> >Richard..
> >
>
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From: "Runyon, Charlie" <runyonc FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:49:14 -0800


Mark
 Also, I forgot to mention, you don't have to do anything about tune ups
(bla-bla-bla) and you may not notice any sound changes. I'm not really sure
because I have the Flowmaster duel set-up and I already have sound.
Good luck
Charlie

Charlie Runyon
Code-213PH
FTSCPAC-DET Pearl Harbor
808-473-0032

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Browning [SMTP:mab076 hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 7:23 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
>
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> I have a quick question, I have a Ford F150 4.2 2WD and i wanted to put on
> a
> K&N airfilter Kit (arm and filter) and a gibson single out exhaust
> i was wondering if i have to tune up my engine after i make the mods???
> And
> you said the mileage wasn't improved, but is it decreased?? and is the
> single out exhaust louder then the rest, i just want the power sound, that
>
> improves HP and has enough back pressure that my engine sensors don't
> blow...
>
> please let me know
> Thank
> Mark Browning
> Ford F150 99 4.2L 2WD
>
> >From: Richard Ballinger <RBalling distcrt18.state.ks.us>
> >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: "'97up-list ford-trucks.com'" <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
> >Subject: [97up-list] Gibson exhaust/towing
> >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:05:00 -0600
> >
> >
> >I have two responses for the list:
> >
> >Rich:    The Gibson I put on the 5.4 150 SC 4x4 is the single out catback
> >system with the 3inch pipes.  I tow a lot and wanted maximum torque.  I
> >discovered if you go duel exhaust, it actually decreases the torque.
> Also,
> >the sound is fairly quiet.  It has deepened somewhat, but if you want the
> >loud rumble, this is not the system for you.  If you want a deep , but
> >quiet
> >rumble that you can not hear in the cab, and help torque, then you will
> be
> >happy.  I did put on the K&N and opened up the air intake and the
> >combination has not helped the mileage, but has definitely helped the
> >performance....
> >
> >
> >Mike:  On my F150, see description above, I tow a Jayco TT that weighs in
> >around 43000 dry, and it does okay, but I had to beef up the suspension
> >with
> >the Helwig helper springs (2,500 progressive).  I also modified the
> engine
> >as described above to help.  The most important thing I did with the
> >vehicle
> >was add a tranny temp gauge.  I didn't get fancy, just bought a B&M out
> of
> >JEG"S, for around $40 and it goes inline on the return.  It took about
> 1.5
> >hours for everything.  It has taught me better driving habits when
> towing.
> >I like my 5.4, but would not be comfortable pulling with a smaller
> engine.
> >I am unfamiliar with the 4.6 towing.  I drove one couple years ago, but
> >opted for the bigger engine.  Every once in awhile, I tow my boat,
> 4,000lb
> >boat and trailer, and it has no problem.  But it doesn't have the drag
> the
> >trailer has, either.  You'd have to use the equalizing hitch.  I have
> >thought about getting the anti-sway bar that attaches to the equalizer
> >hitch, to help in high cross wind situations.  I do have to admit, that
> >after all these modifications,  I went ahead and bought the Excursion
> V-10
> >4.3 to pull the TT while the F150 handles the boat.  I love that
> >V-10....let
> >me know if you have any other questions
> >Richard..
> >
>
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From: "Mark Browning" <mab076 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:01:58 -0500


So what do you think the best combo is with the K&N and a cat back
exhaust... for performance and not super loud noise.. but a good rumble.. I
also tow a boat 2500lbs with my truck what would you recommend?

Thanks Again
Mark Browning
Ford F150 99 4.2L 2WD

>From: "Runyon, Charlie" <runyonc FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL>
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: "'97up-list ford-trucks.com'" <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: [97up-list] Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:49:14 -0800
>
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>   Also, I forgot to mention, you don't have to do anything about tune ups
>(bla-bla-bla) and you may not notice any sound changes. I'm not really sure
>because I have the Flowmaster duel set-up and I already have sound.
>Good luck
>Charlie
>
>Charlie Runyon
>Code-213PH
>FTSCPAC-DET Pearl Harbor
>808-473-0032
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:16:33 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier <jmc.chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing




Mark Browning wrote:

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> I have a quick question, I have a Ford F150 4.2 2WD and i wanted to put on a
> K&N airfilter Kit (arm and filter) and a gibson single out exhaust
> i was wondering if i have to tune up my engine after i make the mods??? And
> you said the mileage wasn't improved, but is it decreased?? and is the
> single out exhaust louder then the rest, i just want the power sound, that
> improves HP and has enough back pressure that my engine sensors don't
> blow...
>
> please let me know
> Thank
> Mark Browning
> Ford F150 99 4.2L 2WD
>

Mark,

   Your engine will do fine as it is.  Just unplug the battery so the PCM
resets and it will pick up your mods faster.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
00 F-150 SC 4x4  K&N, Headers, Superchips, etc.....


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From: "Joe Mossbarger" <jmossbarger hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:57:08


Mark,

I just installed Flowmasters on my 97 F150 4x4 with the 4.6. Initially, I
was very disappointed in the performance. My gas mileage fell from around 18
to 13! I drove it for a month to make sure that it wasn't just my lead foot
(it does sound great!), and it was consistent. I finally called Flowmaster
up and they told me that I had increased the efficiency of the engine on the
exhaust side, but not on the intake side. Makes sense, so they told me to
put an aftermarket intake on it and see what happens. Well, I immediately
ordered the K&N Filtercharger kit, and what a difference! The truck has come
alive. In the previous state, it was a slug on the freeway, anything over
3000RPM and it was just making noise. Now, it leaps to attention and has you
to 70mph before you know it. As for the mileage, I haven't had an
opportunity to take any long freeway rides, but just around town I am up to
15mpg, which I am happy with. The important thing is the performance, it was
a night and day difference.

I would definitely recommend this combination, the exhaust note is just loud
enough to get it noticed, without annoying you on the freeway.

FWIW,

Joe Mossbarger (Lurker)


>From: "Mark Browning" <mab076 hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [97up-list] Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:01:58 -0500
>
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>So what do you think the best combo is with the K&N and a cat back
>exhaust... for performance and not super loud noise.. but a good rumble.. I
>also tow a boat 2500lbs with my truck what would you recommend?
>
>Thanks Again
>Mark Browning
>Ford F150 99 4.2L 2WD
>
> >From: "Runyon, Charlie" <runyonc FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL>
> >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: "'97up-list ford-trucks.com'" <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
> >Subject: [97up-list] Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
> >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:49:14 -0800
> >
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> >Mark
> >   Also, I forgot to mention, you don't have to do anything about tune
>ups
> >(bla-bla-bla) and you may not notice any sound changes. I'm not really
>sure
> >because I have the Flowmaster duel set-up and I already have sound.
> >Good luck
> >Charlie
> >
> >Charlie Runyon
> >Code-213PH
> >FTSCPAC-DET Pearl Harbor
> >808-473-0032
> >
> >
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From: "Rich May" <doom460 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:25:22 -0500


I have heard that the K&N Filtercharger makes a TON of noise(resonance). Are
these rumors true?? I am looking for performance, but not at the expense of
me being distracted by the engine bay instead of the road.


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From: "Anne Mitchell" <amitche1 maine.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:06:15 -0500



Rich let me ask you, does your hood have insulation on it?  My 98 F150, 4.6L
does not.  My engine was already noisy.  It's fan noise mostly.  Yes I think
my FIPK makes more noise than the stock intake, it's not enclosed.  My
gibson, catback, single doesn't make much noise compared to the Borla I had
on my 92 Explorer.  But the 4.6L is single overhead cam and I think that has
a lot to do with exhaust sound.  Has anyone added sound insulation to their
hood?

Oh yea, my truck's in the body shop for $7,500 worth of frontend damage.  An
uninsured "motorist" got on the highway in snow last Friday and then spun
her full-size Bronco into my lane.  I avoided her the first time and changed
lanes but she was too quick for me, she overcorrected, came back at me for a
second try and I ended up tee-boning her.  She got a bent frame and
seriously punched in passenger door.  No passenger, nobody hurt.  She didn't
get a summons for lack of insurance because she had an insurance card with a
valid date on it.  But her insurance company called me and told me she
wasn't covered at the time of the accident.  Her insurance was canceled last
Dec.  I called the State Policeman who covered the accident and they didn't
care she was uninsured.  I called the DMV and they didn't care either.
There is a law in Maine that you have to have insurance to drive a car and
get a car registered.  But if you don't have it and you have a card that
makes it look like you do, nobody cares, huh.  I get a headache just
thinking about it.  Sorry for the rant.  I would attach a picture but I
think that would use up too much server space.

Steve
>
> I have heard that the K&N Filtercharger makes a TON of noise(resonance).
Are
> these rumors true?? I am looking for performance, but not at the expense
of
> me being distracted by the engine bay instead of the road.
>
>
> Rich May
>
>
>
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From: "Runyon, Charlie" <runyonc FTSCPAC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:34:22 -0800


Steve
 It seems to me that you get insurance so you don't have to pay all the
cost associated with an accident. I would say that the girl just screwed
herself and now she has got to get a loan or... Just because your insurance
has expired doesn't get you off the hook. Sounds to me like you just got
yourself a "T" boned Bronco of your very own
Charlie (Hawaii)

Charlie Runyon
Code-213PH
FTSCPAC-DET Pearl Harbor
808-473-0032

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne Mitchell [SMTP:amitche1 maine.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 2:06 PM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
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> Rich let me ask you, does your hood have insulation on it?  My 98 F150,
> 4.6L
> does not.  My engine was already noisy.  It's fan noise mostly.  Yes I
> think
> my FIPK makes more noise than the stock intake, it's not enclosed.  My
> gibson, catback, single doesn't make much noise compared to the Borla I
> had
> on my 92 Explorer.  But the 4.6L is single overhead cam and I think that
> has
> a lot to do with exhaust sound.  Has anyone added sound insulation to
> their
> hood?
>
> Oh yea, my truck's in the body shop for $7,500 worth of frontend damage.
> An
> uninsured "motorist" got on the highway in snow last Friday and then spun
> her full-size Bronco into my lane.  I avoided her the first time and
> changed
> lanes but she was too quick for me, she overcorrected, came back at me for
> a
> second try and I ended up tee-boning her.  She got a bent frame and
> seriously punched in passenger door.  No passenger, nobody hurt.  She
> didn't
> get a summons for lack of insurance because she had an insurance card with
> a
> valid date on it.  But her insurance company called me and told me she
> wasn't covered at the time of the accident.  Her insurance was canceled
> last
> Dec.  I called the State Policeman who covered the accident and they
> didn't
> care she was uninsured.  I called the DMV and they didn't care either.
> There is a law in Maine that you have to have insurance to drive a car and
> get a car registered.  But if you don't have it and you have a card that
> makes it look like you do, nobody cares, huh.  I get a headache just
> thinking about it.  Sorry for the rant.  I would attach a picture but I
> think that would use up too much server space.
>
> Steve
> >
> > I have heard that the K&N Filtercharger makes a TON of noise(resonance).
> Are
> > these rumors true?? I am looking for performance, but not at the expense
> of
> > me being distracted by the engine bay instead of the road.
> >
> >
> > Rich May
> >
> >
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From: "Anne Mitchell" <amitche1 maine.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Gibson exhaust/towing
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:32:55 -0500


Yes Charlie, I got a Bronco.  Now I need a bigger freezer and a swazall.  My
insurance Co. is going to sue her for about $8k and they said they can get
ahold of her driver's license.  This lesson in life will only cost me $500
and a few unexplainable rattles.  Like I said nobody got hurt physically.

> Steve
>   It seems to me that you get insurance so you don't have to pay all the
> cost associated with an accident. I would say that the girl just screwed
> herself and now she has got to get a loan or... Just because your
insurance
> has expired doesn't get you off the hook. Sounds to me like you just got
> yourself a "T" boned Bronco of your very own
> Charlie (Hawaii)
>
> Charlie Runyon
> Code-213PH
> FTSCPAC-DET Pearl Harbor
> 808-473-0032
>
>


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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:54:37 -0600
From: jcarbone <jcarbone bellsouth.net>
Subject: 302 Serpentine to V-belt, timing cover, HELP!


I am putting an '83 302 H.O. into my '78 F-100.

The '83 302 has serpentine accessory drive and I need to change it to V-belt
accessory drive (original appearance!). None of my old brackets match the water
pump bolt locations. Will an older 302 timing cover fit the '83 302? I need to ....


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