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97up-list Digest Wed, 27 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 171

In This Issue:
Re: fifth wheel weight
Re: fifth wheel weight
ADMIN: All new 2001 Ford trucks
fifth wheel weight and tow ratings
Re: fifth wheel weight
Re: fifth wheel weight
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:59:09 -0600
From: "Joseph L. & Delphine A. Casey" <jcasey frii.com>
Subject: Re: fifth wheel weight

There is a towing brochure available from Ford. Dealers. There also is
towing information available on the internet from Trailer Life.

However, I doubt if you have a problem. We pull a fifth wheel of around
12,500 lbs with a 1999 F350 Supercab, Dually,  AT, Diesel with no
problem. That weight is within Ford's towing specifications.

If you cannot find the Trailer Life Towing info send an e-mail and I
will find the correct website address.

Ray and Diane wrote:

> Maybe someone can tell me how to figure out
> how much my f-350 supercab superdutydeisel
> can pull(fifth wheel trailer) just curious,I currently
> pull one that weighs around 9000 lbs. dry weight.
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> Ray Wright
> tworites home.com
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:54:56 -0700
From: johny <johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: fifth wheel weight

You can also weigh the truck and the trailer.
Something like a CAT scale, can easily do it by axle.

GCWR - combined weight of the truck/trailer combo is 20,000 lbs.
GVWR - max weight carrying capacity of the truck is 9,9000 lbs for SRW
              and 11,200 for the DRW.
F450's and F550's have higher GVWR, and GCWR numbers.

20,000 - weight of truck = max legal amount of trailer.
GVWR - weight of truck = max legal amount that truck can carry.

Loaded with fuel and people, a F350 SC with diesel will weigh upwards of
7000 lbs. A DWR could weigh in in the high 7,000 lb to over 8,000 lbs.

For the most part, you're probably fine, but if you want to know for sure...
You can start checking out the door stickers to verify spring codes,
axle ratings, etc.


Also see www.ford diesel com and check out the tow/haul forum.

Be warned, knowledge may cause you to want to buy additional items, like
engine chips, aux fuel tanks, air bags, guages, and exhaust brakes :-).

-john


"Joseph L. & Delphine A. Casey" wrote:

> There is a towing brochure available from Ford. Dealers. There also is
> towing information available on the internet from Trailer Life.
>
> However, I doubt if you have a problem. We pull a fifth wheel of around
> 12,500 lbs with a 1999 F350 Supercab, Dually,  AT, Diesel with no
> problem. That weight is within Ford's towing specifications.
>
> If you cannot find the Trailer Life Towing info send an e-mail and I
> will find the correct website address.
>
> Ray and Diane wrote:
>
> > Maybe someone can tell me how to figure out
> > how much my f-350 supercab superdutydeisel
> > can pull(fifth wheel trailer) just curious,I currently
> > pull one that weighs around 9000 lbs. dry weight.
> > Thanks for any help you can give me.
> > Ray Wright
> > tworites home.com
> >


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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:24:32 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: All new 2001 Ford trucks

There are several new Ford Motor Company press releases on
the FTE web site.  Ford slam dunks the competition with the
new Super CrewZer, it makes the Super Duty and Excursion
look small.  Can you say tractor-trailor rig in your driveway?

Here's the list of press releases:

2001 King Ranch F-150 SuperCrew
2001 Ford F-650 Super CrewZer
Super Duty F-Series -- One in a Million
The 2001 Platinum Edition Ford Super Duty F-250
Ford Super Duty F-Series -- The Clear Leader in Customer Choice

You can find them at <a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com">www.ford-trucks.com</a>

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:37:12 -0600
From: "Joseph L. & Delphine A. Casey" <jcasey frii.com>
Subject: fifth wheel weight and tow ratings

The website that contains tow ratings is:   trailerlife.com

In addition one can get towing rating brochures from Ford and other
lite-truck people (such as Chevy or Dodge.)


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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:47:00 -0700
From: Bill Funk <bfunk33 uswest.net>
Subject: Re: fifth wheel weight

Ray,
This isn't hard, but it will take a little effort.
First, find a truck scales that you can use.
Then, load both the truck and the trailer as though you were going on a trip;
this means everything: fuel, passengers, cooler, ice, drinks, dogs, clothes,
food, linens, magazines, *EVERYTHING*.
Weigh the truck and trailer seperately, and write down the weights.
Now, check in the door jamb for the GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating)(this is
how much the truck can weigh, full up), and the GCWR (Gross Combined Weight
Rating)(This is how much the truck AND trailer combined can weigh).
Now, subtract the GVRW from the GCWR, and this fugure is how much the trailer
can weigh.
Then, weigh the truck with the trailer attached, but with the trailer's wheels
NOT on the scales; this is how much the truck weighs, fully loaded. This figure
cannot exceed the GVWR.
Most experienced towers will recommend that you keep 10% under the gross weights
for a safety margin.
As an aside, you may be surprised how *little* load carrying capacity your F-350
actually has; it will be far below the *rated* capacity, because your truck
weighs a lot more than the standard F-350 that's used as a base for the figures.
The *combined* capacity should be enough for a 32-35 ft. fiver, though, as long
as you keep the extra weight down.
Hope this helps.

ORIGINAL POST:
================================
From: "Ray and Diane" <tworites home.com>
Subject: fifth wheel weight
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:34:54 -0400

Maybe someone can tell me how to figure out
how much my f-350 supercab superdutydeisel
can pull(fifth wheel trailer) just curious,I currently
pull one that weighs around 9000 lbs. dry weight.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Ray Wright
tworites home.com
==================================


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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:07:09 -0700
From: Ralph Lindberg <n7bsn amsat.org>
Subject: Re: fifth wheel weight

>Maybe someone can tell me how to figure out
>how much my f-350 supercab superdutydeisel
>can pull(fifth wheel trailer) just curious,I currently
>pull one that weighs around 9000 lbs. dry weight.
>
 It depends on the -options- you get with the truck. It can go much higher
then your weight. BUT, it is reduced with increaseing weight of the truck,
due to the weight of the truck messing with the max combined GVW of the
entire rig.
 See the following locations for more information.

 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.tl.com  (Trailer life)
 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://kendaco.telebyte.com/rlindber/RV (mine), look for the on-line
section for more web pages, or the FAQ section for more info.

 A really good writeup on tow ratings can be found at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://x73.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=674743722&CONTEXT=970113812.11301027
92&hitnum=9
 Make certain your program picks up the entire URL, it points you to the
RV newsgroup (rec.outdoors.rv-travel) and a post by Will Sill (which
actually is probably on your news server still, since he only mad it
yesterday)

 You can also see the newsgroup above for lots more towing information,
and missinformation.

 BTW, your trailer loaded weight will be closer to 11000 to 12000 lbs.
Getting really high in my book for your rig (I follow the 75% rule, ie
reduce what Ford tells you by 25% for safety)


Ralph Lindberg   ICQ 5988954
RV and Camping FAQ <http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://kendaco.telebyte.net/rlindber/rv/>
Just because MS-Window's holds 90% of the market doesn't mean it's
superior.  Remember 90% of all animals are insects.




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