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97up-list Digest Mon, 28 Aug 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 152

In This Issue:
should I buy the extended warranty? and Joe's respond
Re: 5.4 Mileage and Tires
5.4 Mileage and Tires
Re: Extended Warranty
Re: Extended Warranty

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From: "Douglas J.  Moore" <dougm ami.com>
Subject: should I buy the extended warranty? and Joe's respond
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:01:35 -0400

From: "Joe" <merchjo bellatlantic.net <mailto:merchjo bellatlantic.net> >
and the lemon question

For what your state law is try.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.carlemon.com/lemonstat.html
<http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.carlemon.com/lemonstat.html>

Thanks and regards

Doug Moore


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From: "George Marchewa" <george tutshi.com>
Subject: Re: 5.4 Mileage and Tires
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:11:21 -0700

Hi

I am tracking the fuel mileage for my 99 F150 5.4 SC 4x4 online at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.tutshi.com/f150

I am running the 5.4 with 3:55 Rear and 245/75R16

Regards
George

----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkins, Robert (GEP)" <Robert.Watkins gepex.ge.com>
To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:50 AM
Subject: [97up-list] 5.4 Mileage and Tires


> Hi Everyone,
> I just moved up from the 80-96 list where I have been for the past 2.5
> years. I just sold my 1987 F150 for a 1997 F150 XLT Supercab with the 5.4
> and towing package (3.55 Rear).
> Two Questions:
> *What kind of gas mileage has everyone with this set-up been getting? (I'm
> sure this topic has come up previously a quick search of the archives
didn't
> turn anything up)
> *Also, what was the original tire size for this setup(16" rims)?
> Right now the truck has 235/70 R16 tires and I am getting around 12 mpg
> (about 9 while towing my boat).
> Thanks, and I look forward to getting to know all of you on this list!
> Bob Watkins
> 97 F150 XLT 4x4 SC 5.4
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From: Cop786 aol.com
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:50:23 EDT
Subject: 5.4 Mileage and Tires

I have a 97 4.6L and I get about 14-15 mpg, but I also have bigger tires, and
a heavy grill guard.  As for the tires, those are the stock tires on 2WD, but
I'm not sure about the 4X4

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From: "Joe" <merchjo bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Extended Warranty
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:43:49 -0400

Yea there is a lemon law, the problem it only cover up to 18K.  I have 27K.
I do have a lawyer working on my problem now.  He says I cant go for the
lemon law but I can sue for breach of warranty.  I will keep you posted.

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Subject: [97up-list] Re: Extended Warranty



In a message dated 8/25/00 5:40:55 PM, listar ford-trucks.com writes:

<< Well Jay

Here is my story.  I own a 99 Ranger which has had a problem from day 1.
The engine has spark knock.  It has been in the shop over 15 times and Ford
has replace almost every emission component.  I bought the extended warranty
so all parts were covered both by the standard and extended.  The truck
still has the problem and Ford basically refuses to fix it.  They did
however extend my warranty to cover 5 years 100K miles. (Go figure, they say
there is nothing wrong yet they up my warranty)
>>

Is there a lemon law in your state? If I remember correctly, Ford gets three
cracks at fixing the problem, then they are supposed to give you a new
vehicle if the problem can't be fixed. Of course, I'd give them a reasonable
amount of time as long as they are trying to fix it. Since your problem does
not seem fixable, maybe  the only cure for your problem is a new engine.
Possibly you should demand that or go to court at this point!

Russ
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From: "Keith Veren" <spectrum-ehs worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Extended Warranty
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:03:36 -0400

Spark-knock and still nobody can fix it?  Sound like they did not put a
top-notch mechanic on it or break-down the engine and look for potential
problems from a non-computer point of view (e.g., missing or broken cam
timing components, etc.).  I have seen this crap much too often.  Once, a
friend of mine purchased a brand-new Mazda (626, I think) in 198...something
and from day one he complained about a loud underhood or in-the-door rattle
when hitting bumps.  The mechanic heard it, the sales men heard it,
everybody heard it.  They spend days trying to fix it.  When I heard the
story, I said lets go for a ride.  I heard it.  Opened the hood, took a
light rubber hammer and lightly vibrated various areas.  Hit one area near
the infamous "coffee-can" emission vapor recovery component and heard
"bbrrrraaaapppp", it was the noise.  Looked around, buckle latch at bottom
was not secured and closed.  Snapped it shut, problem solved.  This should
have been found in 5 minutes by the dealer's mechanic on day one, not by a
toxicologist that loves rebuilding old cars.  Especially since the customer
has lost days of vehicle use, time, effort, enjoyment, etc.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe <merchjo bellatlantic.net>
To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 6:43 AM
Subject: [97up-list] Re: Extended Warranty


> Yea there is a lemon law, the problem it only cover up to 18K.  I have
27K.
> I do have a lawyer working on my problem now.  He says I cant go for the
> lemon law but I can sue for breach of warranty.  I will keep you posted.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:97up-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of MFAPHOTO aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 8:16 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [97up-list] Re: Extended Warranty
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/25/00 5:40:55 PM, listar ford-trucks.com writes:
>
> << Well Jay
>
> Here is my story.  I own a 99 Ranger which has had a problem from day 1.
> The engine has spark knock.  It has been in the shop over 15 times and
Ford
> has replace almost every emission component.  I bought the extended
warranty
> so all parts were covered both by the standard and extended.  The truck
> still has the problem and Ford basically refuses to fix it.  They did
> however extend my warranty to cover 5 years 100K miles. (Go figure, they
say
> there is nothing wrong yet they up my warranty)
>  >>
>
> Is there a lemon law in your state? If I remember correctly, Ford gets
three
> cracks at fixing the problem, then they are supposed to give you a new
> vehicle if the problem can't be fixed. Of course, I'd give them a
reasonable
> amount of time as long as they are trying to fix it. Since your problem
does
> not seem fixable, maybe  the only cure for your problem is a new engine.
> Possibly you should demand that or go to court at this point!
>
> Russ
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