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97up-list Digest Sun, 20 Aug 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 147

In This Issue:
Re: hydro winches
Hydro Winches
Re: Hydro Winches
should I buy the extended warranty?
Re: should I buy the extended warranty?
Re: hydro winches

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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:31:19 -0700
From: Bill Funk <bfunk33 uswest.net>
Subject: Re: hydro winches


Why would applying the brake make a hydraulic winch work harder?
It would seem that since the powertrain is not engaged, and the parking brake
only brakes the rear wheels, it should have no effect on the PTO.
Bill

ORIGINAL POST:
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From: davesomers <davesomers worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: hydro winches

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I too am looking at my winch options.  Unfortunately the idle and pto
controllers will NOT allow you to engage speed control or PTO without
parking brake on and transmission in neutral (manual) or park (auto).   I'm
afraid putting the brake on will certainly make the winch work harder.
The controller only has 4 wires going in/out, so I think it is
getting/sending a digital signal to the cpu.  makes it a lot harder to
bypass that "safety" feature.
Dave
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From: "Scott Matus" <mr_scsi hotmail.com>
Subject: Hydro Winches
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:12:17 GMT

Dave -

I have the manuals with wiring diagrams for the 1999 SD F-Series.  I'm
positive that you could bypass both the Neutral sensor and the parking brake
sensor to use the PTO while the vehicle is in motion.  You would need to set
up a "Winch Mode" switch wit a couple of relays and diodes.

I'm 95% positive that this will work.  Write me if you want the schematics.

Scott.
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From: davesomers <davesomers worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Hydro Winches
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 19:53:21 -0400

I guess it could be done.  (I have the diagrams but hadn't pursued this
yet)  I had though about bypassing the sensors but was concerned about what
other effects that would have.  Hadn't thought of a "Winch Mode" switch
option so it could be normal the rest of the time.  Sounds like a
possibility.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
I have the manuals with wiring diagrams for the 1999 SD F-Series.  I'm
positive that you could bypass both the Neutral sensor and the parking
brake
sensor to use the PTO while the vehicle is in motion.  You would need to
set
up a "Winch Mode" switch wit a couple of relays and diodes.
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From: "Joe Stewart" <jstewart purepacket.com>
Subject: should I buy the extended warranty?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:03:03 -0400

I recently bought myself a 98 F150 4x4 Off Road, and it is an awesome truck,
I love it. :)

When I bought it, there were 28,000 miles on the truck, so it was still
under the factory warranty, I was trying to make a certain payment, so I
skipped the $1100 or so extended warranty. After a few months of ownership,
I am rapidly approaching the magical 36,000 mile mark where my warranty runs
out, and the price of an extended warranty goes through the roof.

So, should I go ahead with the extended warranty now? The truck is running
just fine, and I can't find a thing wrong that would require a trip to the
dealer at this point. On the flipside, though, fixing anything on the truck
will be expensive after this.

Any comments/suggestions from anyone else who has or hasn't gotten the
extended warranty? Did you need it?

Thanks,
Jay

98 Ford F150 (tow truck)
97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX (race car)


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From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:41:51 EDT
Subject: Re: should I buy the extended warranty?

I personally have never plunged for the warrenty  but I have exercised
another option. Depending on your insuarnce company, mine is GEICO, they may
offer a package which has a $250  deductable. That takes care of the really
evil expenses. I recognize that things will go wrong even though I generally
take fairly good care of a vehicle. A  $205 hit these days while painful is
tolerable. It's the engine or transmiaaion replacements that hurt and this
gives at least some partial backup for those evnents.

Just my take on the issue.

John G.

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From: George Rigney <George.Rigney wsnelson.com>
Subject: Re: hydro winches
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:17:02 -0500

If you're using the winch to pull yourself out of trouble, it's a lot
tougher if the wheels won't roll.

Best Regards,
George

1974 Gran Torino Elite 351W
1999 F250 SD CC V10
2000 Ranger

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Funk [mailto:bfunk33 uswest.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 3:31 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [97up-list] Re: hydro winches



Why would applying the brake make a hydraulic winch work harder?
It would seem that since the powertrain is not engaged, and the parking
brake
only brakes the rear wheels, it should have no effect on the PTO.
Bill




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