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97up-list-digest Wednesday, January 19 2000 Volume 03 : Number 017



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - grill cover
Re: FTE 97up - Re: 97 F-150's
FTE 97up - Re: A 6" lift is mild!! Was" National Spring 6" lift for a F-350....."
FTE 97up - Re: TSB Full description
RE: FTE 97up - 97up F150 Door Cracks...
FTE 97up - Re: Super Duty suspension noise
FTE 97up - 97up F150 Exhaust Pipe Relocation
Re: FTE 97up - 97up F150 Exhaust Pipe Relocation
Re: FTE 97up - 97up F150 Exhaust Pipe Relocation
FTE 97up - Piston Slap: Were the symptoms gradually increasing?
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Super Duty suspension noise
RE: FTE 97up - 97up F150 Exhaust Pipe Relocation
Re: FTE 97up - Squeaks and Noises
Re: FTE 97up - Squeaks and Noises
FTE 97up - Driveline Clunk
FTE 97up - 99 SuperDuty -door??
Re: FTE 97up - suspension noise
Re: FTE 97up - suspension noise
Re: FTE 97up - Squeaks and Noises
FTE 97up - Trailer Tow mirrors
Re: FTE 97up - Squeaks and Noises

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 05:05:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Hunter yahoo.com>
Subject: FTE 97up - grill cover

Jeff,

I have it, I bought it from JC-Whitney and I love it. I had the thing for 2 years now
and I only take it off for cleaning and then put it back on. It's made of carbon fiber
and it's custom fit.
At first, I got it for the winter, but then I found out that it keeps my radiator clean
from salt and other stuff the driver in front of me throw. Also, in the summer time it
will keep the bugs a way. I have 4X4 with the ORB, which mean my truck sets up high,
so when I drive I know the engine gets enough air from underneath the truck.

Hunter.



> I was wondering if i should be putting a cold-weather/winter front on my
> truck, the kind that goes over the grille. A lot of vehicles have them on
> up here, i'm close to the canadian/US border, where we can have -30 wind
> chills for the winter months. What advantages do they have? Are they
> necessary, are they better all around for the engine? why would i need one,
> or don't they make that big of a difference so i don't. Let me know what
> you guys think, or have read. Thanks
> Jeff
> black '99 F-150 XLT SC 4 door short box, 5.4, remote keyless entry, CD
> w/premium sound, tubular cab steps, praire tan interior, Access roll-up
> cover, wondering if i should be covering up that awesome looking grille....
>
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 05:41:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Hunter yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: 97 F-150's

I'll 2nd that....
I've got a 97 F-150 flareside, 4X4, ORB, Fully loaded with 32,000 and I never had any
major problem with it, except me trying to fit a baby car seat out in the back.
I reall recomend it, since it's the best thing happen to me.

> >>truck, can't afford another new vehicle (I've got a 98
> >>in the driveway right now). I'm open to suggestions as
> >>I haven't made a decision yet.
>
> >>Ken Payne
>
> Ken I've got a '97 F-150 Flareside standard cab (no cracked door) and
> it's simply the finest vehicle I've ever owned. 33,000 miles and not one
> spec of touble anywhere. Oh, and one other thing....I never get tired of
> looking at it. GO FORD!
>
> John Mc
> '97 F150
> '64 T'bird conv.
> '66 T'bird conv.
> '63 Falcon conv.
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:00:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Keith rocketmail.com>
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: A 6" lift is mild!! Was" National Spring 6" lift for a F-350....."

Kirk, I think a 6" lift is mild for a Superduty, and I'll only be
fitting 36"x14.50 Swampers, with running boards for (easier) access.
I'll have no problem jumping in and out, though my lady may need my
occasional assistance :)

Checkout the 9" lift with 39" tires at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://people.ne.mediaone.net/sulltran1/index.html. I bet it's fun
getting in and out that one!

Regards! KeithF.
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Kirk wrote:
> Subject: FTE 97up - Ordering a National Spring 6" lift - anyone know
...
>
> Let's see- you're going to lift an F350 4wd...how much? Six inches?
> Just curious- how you plan to get up into the cab?


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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:08:21 EST
From: Cop786 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: TSB Full description

The only place I know to get a TSB is www.alldata.com. I have a subscription
to this service, but it is only good for my particular truck. It's a pretty
helpful site, though
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:37:27 -0800
From: "Rivera, Max" compaq.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 97up F150 Door Cracks...

I am sorry but i did not get a number, maybe someone else has this number.
By the way i did get something else fixed on my truck. I had the dealer
reroute the exhaust system to behind the rear tire. They had to order a kit
and new muffler to do this. No cost since it was under warranty, I hear
there is a TSB for this.

Maximo Rivera
GCSC
Compaq Computers
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:07:11 -0800
From: "Harald" foxinternet.net>
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Super Duty suspension noise

My 99 F350 squeaks in the front end when going over bumps. I had it back to
the dealer and they installed spring isolators per a TSB. It solved the
problem for a short period, but now it's squeaking again. It's really a
shame that my new truck with 15,000 miles on it sounds like a old beater
pickup. I noticed that when it's wet outside (which is almost always here
in Seattle) the squeaking stops. I think the water lubricates the leaf
spring bushings to quiet things down. BTW, someone on another list said he
found a sway bar bushing not centered in the bracket which caused his noise.
I checked my sway bar and it's OK. Maybe my 2000 F350 won't have this
problem?

Harald

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:32:55 -0600
From: "Browning, Charles W. (Charlie)" bv.com>
Subject: FTE 97up - 97up F150 Exhaust Pipe Relocation

I have heard rumors about the exhaust relocation also. Does
anyone have any specific information that I can take to my dealer to get the
exhaust pipe relocated (for free)?

Charles W. Browning, P.E.
Black & Veatch International
8604 Cliff Cameron Drive, Suite 164
Charlotte, North Carolina 28269
* Direct: 704-510-8416 Office: 704-548-8461
* Fax: 704-548-8640
* browningcw bv.com

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From: Rivera, Max
[SMTP:max.rivera compaq.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 10:37 AM
To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 97up F150
Door Cracks...

I am sorry but i did not get a number, maybe someone
else has this number.
By the way i did get something else fixed on my
truck. I had the dealer
reroute the exhaust system to behind the rear tire.
They had to order a kit
and new muffler to do this. No cost since it was
under warranty, I hear
there is a TSB for this.

Maximo Rivera
GCSC
Compaq Computers
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:48:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Hunter yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97up F150 Exhaust Pipe Relocation

I just did it about 4 months ago, just to get a new one. Had no problem. Just go to
your dealer and talk to him about it and he will fix it for you.

> I have heard rumors about the exhaust relocation also. Does
> anyone have any specific information that I can take to my dealer to get the
> exhaust pipe relocated (for free)?

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:18:00 -0800
From: Glenn See telapex.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97up F150 Exhaust Pipe Relocation

If your pickup is still in warranty, they will do it. I was unable to get
mine replaced because I had 45K on it.

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:23:36 EST
From: MarkS79255 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Piston Slap: Were the symptoms gradually increasing?

I have a 99 F250 LD with 5.4L triton. On some starts I notice a rattling
sound that is similar to a diesel running. This sound tends to die away
within 10 to 15 seconds. The sound is not very loud but is noticeable. On
most starts there is no unusual noise. This has prevented me from taking it
to the dealer to see if they diagnose it as piston slap. Based on how the
5.4L piston slap is described in this group I am inclined to believe that I
am hearing sporadic instances of piston slap. I currently have 17000 miles
on the truck and engine. I run Mobil1 5W30 with Mobil1 filter and change the
oil religiously every 5k miles. The dealer performed the 15k maintenance.

If this is piston slap, can I expect the symptoms to increase with time so
that I will be able to get warranty repairs before 30K miles? Is a dealer
able to diagnose piston slap by any means other than listening by ear?

Thanks for any help. I really appreciate the insights and information
everyone shares. My K&N intake system goes in this weekend. I look forward
to more discussion on exhaust systems as that will likely follow later this
year.
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:58:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill davis yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Super Duty suspension noise

my 2000f350 crew cab does have this same problem.

- --- Harald foxinternet.net> wrote:
> My 99 F350 squeaks in the front end when going over
> bumps. I had it back to
> the dealer and they installed spring isolators per a
> TSB. It solved the
> problem for a short period, but now it's squeaking
> again. It's really a
> shame that my new truck with 15,000 miles on it
> sounds like a old beater
> pickup. I noticed that when it's wet outside (which
> is almost always here
> in Seattle) the squeaking stops. I think the water
> lubricates the leaf
> spring bushings to quiet things down. BTW, someone
> on another list said he
> found a sway bar bushing not centered in the bracket
> which caused his noise.
> I checked my sway bar and it's OK. Maybe my 2000
> F350 won't have this
> problem?
>
> Harald
>
> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to
> purchase a little temporary
> Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben
> Franklin
>
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:11:12 -0800
From: "Rivera, Max" compaq.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 97up F150 Exhaust Pipe Relocation

Article No.
97-26-13
LIGHT TRUCK:
1997 F-150, 250

ISSUE:
The right rear wheel and/or wheel cover may become discolored and/or pitted
and can not be cleaned. This may be due to exhaust from the exhaust pipe
discharging on the wheel.

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