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From: owner-97up-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (97up-list-digest) To: 97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 97up-list-digest V3 #10 Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 97up-list-digest Wednesday, January 12 2000 Volume 03 : Number 010 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. FTE 97up - Re: F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy and Own Re: FTE 97up - Re: F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy and Own Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. FTE 97up - Supercrew RE: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. FTE 97up - Request, triming posts Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. RE: FTE 97up - Supercrew FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Re: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg RE: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg Re: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Re: FTE 97up - door replacement FTE 97up - Air Tornado and K&N ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:30:43 -0500 From: Dean Baruffi Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Does the Superchips module remove this speed limitation? Thanks, Dean At 06:29 PM 01/10/2000 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >j.jensen ericsson.com writes: > > >mine cut out at 92 mph on 99 F250 PSD 4x4 SC shorty > >RS ><< Subj: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > Date: 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: j.jensen ericsson.com (John Jensen - Ericsson)> Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com> Reply-to: ford-trucks.com">97up-listford-trucks.c>om > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > Does anyone have a phone number or link to where I can get hard (verbal or > paperwork) information on the top speed governor for my 97 F350?? > > I've called a Ford hotline number, checked various web sites and actually > had a phone conversation with 2 local dealers. Some of them don't even know > there is a governor. I even had one service guy ask me what the top speed > on the speedo was. I told him 90. Then he tried to tell me that was when > the PCM (computer) doesn't know what to do, and that is when it starts > shutting down. RIGHT! What is he thinking! So if the speedo said 180 I > could do that speed or not have the motor shut down?! Give me a break... > how did this guy get hired? Hehehehehe.... > > And the only info I have found is from Superchips in Florida. They claim > Ford has a governor at 98mph which shuts down the injectors. What do you > all think? > > Anyway, I hope somebody can help. > > John > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) >by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:28 -0500 > Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by >rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:14 -0500 > Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24024; Mon,>10 Jan 2000 17:30:29 -0500 (EST) > Received: from gwu.ericy.com (gwu.ericy.com [208.196.3.162]) by >ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24016; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:30:27 -0500 (EST) > Received: from mr4.exu.ericsson.se (mr4u.ericy.com [208.238.116.99]) > by gwu.ericy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03723 > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:55 -0600 (CST)> Received: from vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (mail.sd.us.am.ericsson.se >[142.133.130.27]) > by mr4.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24762 > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:47 -0600 (CST)> Received: from jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se >[142.133.171.201]) > by vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.14) with SMTP id OAA03653 > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:23 -0800 (PST)> Message-Id: <4.1.20000110142547.00c48500 nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se>> X-Sender: jjensen nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:32:27 -0800 > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> From: John Jensen - Ericsson > Subject: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com> Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > >> >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:45:56 EST From: JDavis1277 aol.comSubject: FTE 97up - Re: F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy and Own Nathan, Thanks for the comment. The fact remains, however, an F-250SD can be bought for about the same money as an F-150HD in Lariat trim. Also, I've been rather amazed at how well my 1990 F-250HD SC Lariat Diesel has held it's value on the used truck market. IMO, the F-250 is a much better buy for towing purposes. What is your take on LONG term depreciation between the F-150 and the F-250? Thanks, Butch Don't compare 1 year depreciation on F-150 vs F-250. Due to the fact that the Super Duty is so new, their bringing a premium used (so did the F150 when it came out), but once the newness wears off it will be comparable. If you go back to 1996 to compare, or compare Dodge's that's how to find out how much a 3/4ton will be worth compared to a 1/2. Nathan - - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy & Own > I was looking into buying an F-150HD SC Lariat with the 5.4 and automatic. > At $150 over invoice it would have run a bit under $26K optioned out the way > I want. So, just for fun I checked out the cost for an F-250SD SC Lariat > with the V-10 and automatic with similar equipment. At the same $150 over > invoice it also would have run a bit under $26K. > > Wow, I thought the F-250 would have been a lot more money compared to the > F-150. But, there are some features included in the F-250 that are extra > cost on the F-150. Clearly, for towing work, the F-250 looked like the > better buy. For a nice looking truck that rides like a car, the F-150 seems > to take it. > > Then, just for fun, I decided to compare depreciation. The F-250 holds a > much higher percentage of its invoice price than does the F-150 at the one > year point. > > Consequently, guys, I've decided I can't afford the higher cost of ownership > of the F-150. Frankly, I was VERY surprised by the outcome of my little desk > top analysis. > > Any comments? > > Butch == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:59:55 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy and Own a 3/4 will be worth more the a 1/2 ton, however it is usually less than $1,000 more. I begining to think that long term neither will be the greatest property. The market is getting so flooded with pickups that once the fad wears off (and gas prices go up) the trucks are going to get cheap. Sport utilitys have already started. Late model sport utilitys aren't bringing anywhere near book prices and are still droping. I expect trucks to do the same in a few years. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 8:45 AM Subject: FTE 97up - Re: F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy and Own > Nathan, > > Thanks for the comment. The fact remains, however, an F-250SD can be bought > for about the same money as an F-150HD in Lariat trim. Also, I've been > rather amazed at how well my 1990 F-250HD SC Lariat Diesel has held it's > value on the used truck market. IMO, the F-250 is a much better buy for > towing purposes. > > What is your take on LONG term depreciation between the F-150 and the F-250? > > Thanks, > Butch > > > Don't compare 1 year depreciation on F-150 vs F-250. Due to the fact that the > Super Duty is so new, their bringing a premium used (so did the F150 when it > came out), but once the newness wears off it will be comparable. If you go > back to 1996 to compare, or compare Dodge's that's how to find out how much a > 3/4ton will be worth compared to a 1/2. > > Nathan > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: <97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 8:00 AM > Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy & Own > > > > I was looking into buying an F-150HD SC Lariat with the 5.4 and automatic. > > At $150 over invoice it would have run a bit under $26K optioned out the > way > > I want. So, just for fun I checked out the cost for an F-250SD SC Lariat > > with the V-10 and automatic with similar equipment. At the same $150 over > > invoice it also would have run a bit under $26K. > > > > Wow, I thought the F-250 would have been a lot more money compared to the > > F-150. But, there are some features included in the F-250 that are extra > > cost on the F-150. Clearly, for towing work, the F-250 looked like the > > better buy. For a nice looking truck that rides like a car, the F-150 > seems > > to take it. > > > > Then, just for fun, I decided to compare depreciation. The F-250 holds a > > much higher percentage of its invoice price than does the F-150 at the one > > year point. > > > > Consequently, guys, I've decided I can't afford the higher cost of > ownership > > of the F-150. Frankly, I was VERY surprised by the outcome of my little > desk > > top analysis. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Butch > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:12:27 -0500 From: "Kenneth J. Nagy" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? I have the Consumer Reports sheets on the new SuperCrew, and I don't see the 7700 lbs GVWR in the option sheet. The highest I see is the 6750 lbs GVWR, if this is correct. Ken > Yes, I'll second that. I went through the option book at the dealer very > thoroughly when I ordered my 2000 150. The 2000 150HD is the replacement > for the 1999 250LD. Keep in mind that the new four door F150 SuperCrew will > be coming out soon and you might be able to get the 7700 GVWR option on it > as well. > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:08:53 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? No 7700 package is going to be available on the Supercrew, you'll have to go to a Super duty for HD usage. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth J. Nagy" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:12 AM Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? > I have the Consumer Reports sheets on the new SuperCrew, and I don't see the > 7700 lbs GVWR in the option sheet. The highest I see is the 6750 lbs GVWR, > if this is correct. > > Ken > > > > Yes, I'll second that. I went through the option book at the dealer very > > thoroughly when I ordered my 2000 150. The 2000 150HD is the replacement > > for the 1999 250LD. Keep in mind that the new four door F150 SuperCrew > will > > be coming out soon and you might be able to get the 7700 GVWR option on it > > as well. > > > > > > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:10:28 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. I've sold a lot of superchips and the new ones do eliminate the speed limiter. We've had one truck up to 110 MPH (calculated) and it was still climing. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Baruffi" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 6:30 AM Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > Does the Superchips module remove this speed limitation? > > > Thanks, > > Dean > > At 06:29 PM 01/10/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >In a message dated 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >j.jensen ericsson.com writes:> > > > > >mine cut out at 92 mph on 99 F250 PSD 4x4 SC shorty > > > >RS > ><< Subj: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > > Date: 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time > > From: j.jensen ericsson.com (John Jensen - Ericsson)> > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com> > Reply-to: ford-trucks.com">97up-listford-trucks.c> >om > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > > > Does anyone have a phone number or link to where I can get hard (verbal or > > paperwork) information on the top speed governor for my 97 F350?? > > > > I've called a Ford hotline number, checked various web sites and actually > > had a phone conversation with 2 local dealers. Some of them don't even know > > there is a governor. I even had one service guy ask me what the top speed > > on the speedo was. I told him 90. Then he tried to tell me that was when > > the PCM (computer) doesn't know what to do, and that is when it starts > > shutting down. RIGHT! What is he thinking! So if the speedo said 180 I > > could do that speed or not have the motor shut down?! Give me a break... > > how did this guy get hired? Hehehehehe.... > > > > And the only info I have found is from Superchips in Florida. They claim > > Ford has a governor at 98mph which shuts down the injectors. What do you > > all think? > > > > Anyway, I hope somebody can help. > > > > John > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > > Return-Path: > > Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) > >by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:28 -0500 > > Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by > >rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:14 -0500 > > Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24024;Mon, > >10 Jan 2000 17:30:29 -0500 (EST) > > Received: from gwu.ericy.com (gwu.ericy.com [208.196.3.162]) by > >ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24016; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:30:27 -0500 (EST) > > Received: from mr4.exu.ericsson.se (mr4u.ericy.com [208.238.116.99]) > > by gwu.ericy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03723 > > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:55 -0600(CST) > > Received: from vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (mail.sd.us.am.ericsson.se > >[142.133.130.27]) > > by mr4.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24762 > > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:47 -0600(CST) > > Received: from jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se > >[142.133.171.201]) > > by vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.14) with SMTP id OAA03653 > > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:23 -0800(PST) > > Message-Id: <4.1.20000110142547.00c48500 nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se>> > X-Sender: jjensen nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se> > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 > > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:32:27 -0800 > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > From: John Jensen - Ericsson > > Subject: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com> > Precedence: bulk > > Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > > > >> > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:57:03 -0600 From: jmann living.comSubject: FTE 97up - Supercrew Is Ford taking orders on the Supercrew yet? When do you expect to start take delivery of the Supercrew? - -----Original Message----- From: Union Auto [mailto:unionaut adiis.net]Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:09 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comSubject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? No 7700 package is going to be available on the Supercrew, you'll have to go to a Super duty for HD usage. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth J. Nagy" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:12 AM Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? > I have the Consumer Reports sheets on the new SuperCrew, and I don't see the > 7700 lbs GVWR in the option sheet. The highest I see is the 6750 lbs GVWR, > if this is correct. > > Ken > > > > Yes, I'll second that. I went through the option book at the dealer very > > thoroughly when I ordered my 2000 150. The 2000 150HD is the replacement > > for the 1999 250LD. Keep in mind that the new four door F150 SuperCrew > will > > be coming out soon and you might be able to get the 7700 GVWR option on it > > as well. > > > > > > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:28:54 -0500 From: "Shaun Mahoney" Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Just remember that the factory supplied tires are rated for 105 MPH max. -----Original Message----- From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of Union AutoSent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 10:10 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comSubject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. I've sold a lot of superchips and the new ones do eliminate the speed limiter. We've had one truck up to 110 MPH (calculated) and it was still climing. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Baruffi" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 6:30 AM Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > Does the Superchips module remove this speed limitation? > > > Thanks, > > Dean > > At 06:29 PM 01/10/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >In a message dated 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >j.jensen ericsson.com writes:> > > > > >mine cut out at 92 mph on 99 F250 PSD 4x4 SC shorty > > > >RS > ><< Subj: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > > Date: 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time > > From: j.jensen ericsson.com (John Jensen - Ericsson)> > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com> > Reply-to: ford-trucks.com">97up-listford-trucks.c> >om > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > > > Does anyone have a phone number or link to where I can get hard (verbal or > > paperwork) information on the top speed governor for my 97 F350?? > > > > I've called a Ford hotline number, checked various web sites and actually > > had a phone conversation with 2 local dealers. Some of them don't even know > > there is a governor. I even had one service guy ask me what the top speed > > on the speedo was. I told him 90. Then he tried to tell me that was when > > the PCM (computer) doesn't know what to do, and that is when it starts > > shutting down. RIGHT! What is he thinking! So if the speedo said 180 I > > could do that speed or not have the motor shut down?! Give me a break... > > how did this guy get hired? Hehehehehe.... > > > > And the only info I have found is from Superchips in Florida. They claim > > Ford has a governor at 98mph which shuts down the injectors. What do you > > all think? > > > > Anyway, I hope somebody can help. > > > > John > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > > Return-Path: > > Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) > >by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:28 -0500 > > Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by > >rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:14 -0500 > > Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24024;Mon, > >10 Jan 2000 17:30:29 -0500 (EST) > > Received: from gwu.ericy.com (gwu.ericy.com [208.196.3.162]) by > >ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24016; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:30:27 -0500 (EST) > > Received: from mr4.exu.ericsson.se (mr4u.ericy.com [208.238.116.99]) > > by gwu.ericy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03723 > > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:55 -0600(CST) > > Received: from vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (mail.sd.us.am.ericsson.se > >[142.133.130.27]) > > by mr4.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24762 > > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:47 -0600(CST) > > Received: from jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se > >[142.133.171.201]) > > by vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.14) with SMTP id OAA03653 > > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:23 -0800(PST) > > Message-Id: <4.1.20000110142547.00c48500 nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se>> > X-Sender: jjensen nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se> > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 > > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:32:27 -0800 > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > From: John Jensen - Ericsson > > Subject: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com> > Precedence: bulk > > Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > > > >> > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:41:52 -0800 From: Ralph Lindberg Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. >Does the Superchips module remove this speed limitation? I think so? The HyperTech PowerProgramer-III does also, along with reseting the shift-points in the trany and other things Ralph Lindberg ICQ 5988954 RV and Camping FAQ Just because MS-Window's holds 90% of the market doesn't mean it's superior. Remember 90% of all animals are insects. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:44:41 -0800 From: Ralph Lindberg Subject: FTE 97up - Request, triming posts If people would please trim the posts as they reply reading would be much easier. That is like the headers, the list footers and the parts of the text body you are not replying to. Ralph Lindberg ICQ 5988954 RV and Camping FAQ Just because MS-Window's holds 90% of the market doesn't mean it's superior. Remember 90% of all animals are insects. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:56:06 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew Yes, Supercrew production began Jan 3 and orders are being accepted. Delivery times are unknown at this point. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: FTE 97up - Supercrew > Is Ford taking orders on the Supercrew yet? When do you expect to start > take delivery of the Supercrew? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Union Auto [mailto:unionaut adiis.net]> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:09 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? > > No 7700 package is going to be available on the Supercrew, you'll have to go > to a Super duty for HD usage. > > Nathan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth J. Nagy" > To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? > > > > I have the Consumer Reports sheets on the new SuperCrew, and I don't see > the > > 7700 lbs GVWR in the option sheet. The highest I see is the 6750 lbs > GVWR, > > if this is correct. > > > > Ken > > > > > > > Yes, I'll second that. I went through the option book at the dealer very > > > thoroughly when I ordered my 2000 150. The 2000 150HD is the > replacement > > > for the 1999 250LD. Keep in mind that the new four door F150 SuperCrew > > will > > > be coming out soon and you might be able to get the 7700 GVWR option on > it > > > as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:14:01 -0800 (PST) From: Hunter Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew Nathan, I remember you posted the price list for the SuperCrew F150 while back, are the prices still the same or did they change? Also, Could you let us know when do they set a delivery time. Thanks. - --- Union Auto > Yes, Supercrew production began Jan 3 and orders are being accepted. > Delivery times are unknown at this point. > > Nathan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:09:23 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew Things havn't changed yet. I'm not sure on delivery times, prodution was supposed to start mid Dec and didn't start untill January. Also the first of the vehicles will probably get held for inspection meaning nothing usually ships until about 3 weeks after production starts. And if its anything like the Focus or 1999 Windstar launch, you might not see trucks for 3 months. After production gets started, I expect a inital back-log, but then they should be readily available as Supercrew is going to account for 30% of F-150 production. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunter" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 12:14 PM Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew > Nathan, > > I remember you posted the price list for the SuperCrew F150 while back, are the prices > still the same or did they change? Also, Could you let us know when do they set a > delivery time. > > Thanks. > > > > --- Union Auto > > Yes, Supercrew production began Jan 3 and orders are being accepted. > > Delivery times are unknown at this point. > > > > Nathan > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:30:49 -0800 From: John Jensen - Ericsson Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Yes it does... you can look up the web at; Superchips.com They'll explain it in more detail. John At 07:30 AM 1/11/00 -0500, Dean Baruffi wrote: >Does the Superchips module remove this speed limitation? > > >Thanks, > >Dean > >At 06:29 PM 01/10/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>In a message dated 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >>j.jensen ericsson.com writes:>> >> >>mine cut out at 92 mph on 99 F250 PSD 4x4 SC shorty >> >>RS >><< Subj: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. >> Date: 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time >> From: j.jensen ericsson.com (John Jensen - Ericsson)>> Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com>> Reply-to: ford-trucks.com">97up-listford-trucks.c>>om >> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>> >> Does anyone have a phone number or link to where I can get hard (verbal or >> paperwork) information on the top speed governor for my 97 F350?? >> >> I've called a Ford hotline number, checked various web sites and actually >> had a phone conversation with 2 local dealers. Some of them don't even know >> there is a governor. I even had one service guy ask me what the top speed >> on the speedo was. I told him 90. Then he tried to tell me that was when >> the PCM (computer) doesn't know what to do, and that is when it starts >> shutting down. RIGHT! What is he thinking! So if the speedo said 180 I >> could do that speed or not have the motor shut down?! Give me a break... >> how did this guy get hired? Hehehehehe.... >> >> And the only info I have found is from Superchips in Florida. They claim >> Ford has a governor at 98mph which shuts down the injectors. What do you >> all think? >> >> Anyway, I hope somebody can help. >> >> John >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> >> >> ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >> Return-Path: >> Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) >>by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:28 -0500 >> Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by >>rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:14 -0500 >> Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24024; Mon,>>10 Jan 2000 17:30:29 -0500 (EST) >> Received: from gwu.ericy.com (gwu.ericy.com [208.196.3.162]) by >>ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24016; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:30:27 -0500 (EST) >> Received: from mr4.exu.ericsson.se (mr4u.ericy.com [208.238.116.99]) >> by gwu.ericy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03723 >> for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:55 -0600 (CST)>> Received: from vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (mail.sd.us.am.ericsson.se >>[142.133.130.27]) >> by mr4.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24762 >> for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:47 -0600 (CST)>> Received: from jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se >>[142.133.171.201]) >> by vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.14) with SMTP id OAA03653 >> for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:23 -0800 (PST)>> Message-Id: <4.1.20000110142547.00c48500 nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se>>> X-Sender: jjensen nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se>> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 >> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:32:27 -0800 >> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>> From: John Jensen - Ericsson >> Subject: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. >> Mime-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com>> Precedence: bulk >> Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>> >> >> >>== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:41:25 -0800 From: John Jensen - Ericsson Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Hehehehee.... Here's one for ya' I've had my blown (Vortech Supercharged) and Superchipped 7.5 Liter Crewcab Dually up over 124mph (estimated by a GPS receiver). And I say "up over" because I was slowing down after seeing Local Authorities on the side of the highway. If your familiar with "Gear Vendors Under/Overdrive" units, these also fool the PCM. If I use my overdrive unit with no Superchip installed, there should be a governor. But I simply leave my truck in overdrive and then engage my Gear Vendors Overdrive... this puts the truck in ultra overdrive. If I'm doing 90... I'm turning about 2100 RPMs. And being I've had the RPM up to 3500, this will tell you I was hauling some butt. AND on my 105MPH rated tires. But remember.... those 105 rated tires are a sustained speed rating. Not a short burst rating. Then again... who can sustain over 105 on any normal highway?! This brings this whole email thread question... I received a citation from a state trooper. He clocked me at 107. Wrote me for Reckless Driving. Oddly... I am looking to fight this being I have a top speed governor on my truck. Heck, the judge doesn't know about my Superchip or the use of my Gear Vendors Overdrive. And thus it makes the officers testimony null. SO HELP ME OUT..... Where's this evidence of a "TOP SPEED GOVERNOR" I'm looking for? Hehehehe... Keep it safe, John At 09:10 AM 1/11/00 -0600, you wrote: >I've sold a lot of superchips and the new ones do eliminate the speed >limiter. We've had one truck up to 110 MPH (calculated) and it was still >climing. > >Nathan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dean Baruffi" >To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 6:30 AM >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > > >> Does the Superchips module remove this speed limitation? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dean >> >> At 06:29 PM 01/10/2000 -0500, you wrote: >> >In a message dated 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> >j.jensen ericsson.com writes:>> > >> > >> >mine cut out at 92 mph on 99 F250 PSD 4x4 SC shorty >> > >> >RS >> ><< Subj: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. >> > Date: 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time >> > From: j.jensen ericsson.com (John Jensen - Ericsson)>> > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com>> > Reply-to: ford-trucks.com">97up-listford-trucks.c>> >om >> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>> > >> > Does anyone have a phone number or link to where I can get hard (verbal >or >> > paperwork) information on the top speed governor for my 97 F350?? >> > >> > I've called a Ford hotline number, checked various web sites and >actually >> > had a phone conversation with 2 local dealers. Some of them don't even >know >> > there is a governor. I even had one service guy ask me what the top >speed >> > on the speedo was. I told him 90. Then he tried to tell me that was when >> > the PCM (computer) doesn't know what to do, and that is when it starts >> > shutting down. RIGHT! What is he thinking! So if the speedo said 180 I >> > could do that speed or not have the motor shut down?! Give me a break... >> > how did this guy get hired? Hehehehehe.... >> > >> > And the only info I have found is from Superchips in Florida. They claim >> > Ford has a governor at 98mph which shuts down the injectors. What do you >> > all think? >> > >> > Anyway, I hope somebody can help. >> > >> > John >> > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >> > >> > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >> > Return-Path: >> > Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com >[172.31.33.226]) >> >by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 >17:33:28 -0500 >> > Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by >> >rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:14 -0500 >> > Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24024;>Mon, >> >10 Jan 2000 17:30:29 -0500 (EST) >> > Received: from gwu.ericy.com (gwu.ericy.com [208.196.3.162]) by >> >ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24016; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:30:27 -0500 >(EST) >> > Received: from mr4.exu.ericsson.se (mr4u.ericy.com [208.238.116.99]) >> > by gwu.ericy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03723 >> > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:55 -0600>(CST) >> > Received: from vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (mail.sd.us.am.ericsson.se >> >[142.133.130.27]) >> > by mr4.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24762 >> > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:47 -0600>(CST) >> > Received: from jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se >(jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se >> >[142.133.171.201]) >> > by vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.14) with SMTP id >OAA03653 >> > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:23 -0800>(PST) >> > Message-Id: <4.1.20000110142547.00c48500 nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se>>> > X-Sender: jjensen nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se>> > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 >> > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:32:27 -0800 >> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>> > From: John Jensen - Ericsson >> > Subject: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. >> > Mime-Version: 1.0 >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com>> > Precedence: bulk >> > Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>> > >> > >> >> >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >> >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:11:26 -0600 From: tvsjr sprynet.comSubject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. >short burst rating. Then again... who can sustain over 105 on any normal >highway?! Well, I sustained 155+ for about 10 minutes, although that was in a '99 Camaro SS with Eagle F-1s (Z-rated). It's amazing closing on cars at three times the legal speed limit (although highly dangerous.) Kids, do not try this at home! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:18:24 -0600 From: jmann living.comSubject: RE: FTE 97up - Supercrew Nathan, do you think that the SuperCrew will be that popular? Do you expect a resale value better than the extended cab F150? Finally, who (what market segment) do you see buying the SuperCrew? It seems to fit between the Expedition and the F150s. - -----Original Message----- From: Union Auto [mailto:unionaut adiis.net]Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 1:09 PM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comSubject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew Things havn't changed yet. I'm not sure on delivery times, prodution was supposed to start mid Dec and didn't start untill January. Also the first of the vehicles will probably get held for inspection meaning nothing usually ships until about 3 weeks after production starts. And if its anything like the Focus or 1999 Windstar launch, you might not see trucks for 3 months. After production gets started, I expect a inital back-log, but then they should be readily available as Supercrew is going to account for 30% of F-150 production. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunter" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 12:14 PM Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew > Nathan, > > I remember you posted the price list for the SuperCrew F150 while back, are the prices > still the same or did they change? Also, Could you let us know when do they set a > delivery time. > > Thanks. > > > > --- Union Auto > > Yes, Supercrew production began Jan 3 and orders are being accepted. > > Delivery times are unknown at this point. > > > > Nathan > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:25:34 -0500 From: "Kenneth J. Nagy" Subject: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg Does anyone know if the Premium Sport Appearance Package is available with the Deep Wedgewood Blue exterior color? The dealer I went to and the Ford brochure say no, but I was able to configure the truck like that on Ford's "u-build-it" web site. The brochure only lists white, silver, black, or laser red avail with the Premium pkg. I was hoping for a small loophole here, since I really like the Sport pkg and the Deep Wedgewood Blue color. Thanks Ken Kenneth J. Nagy knagy IXTelecom.comIDT Corporation www.idt.net 225 Old New Brunswick Road, Suite 300 Piscataway, NJ 08854 Voice/Fax: +1.732.465.7845 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:37:49 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew I expect it to really hurt full size SUV's due to pricing. Most of the buyers will be "car" buyers as opposed to the traditional truck buyers that will continue to buy long box trucks. I expect the Supercrew to be extremely popular. Compare prices of an Supercab Ford to a Chevy and you'll find the Ford is much cheaper. Then throw the Supercrew in the mix and you'll find it's not much more money than a Chevy Extended cab so we'll have them on both sides. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Supercrew > Nathan, do you think that the SuperCrew will be that popular? Do you expect > a resale value better than the extended cab F150? Finally, who (what market > segment) do you see buying the SuperCrew? It seems to fit between the > Expedition and the F150s. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Union Auto [mailto:unionaut adiis.net]> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 1:09 PM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew > > Things havn't changed yet. I'm not sure on delivery times, prodution was > supposed to start mid Dec and didn't start untill January. Also the first > of the vehicles will probably get held for inspection meaning nothing > usually ships until about 3 weeks after production starts. And if its > anything like the Focus or 1999 Windstar launch, you might not see trucks > for 3 months. > After production gets started, I expect a inital back-log, but then they > should be readily available as Supercrew is going to account for 30% of > F-150 production. > > Nathan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hunter" > To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 12:14 PM > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Supercrew > > > > Nathan, > > > > I remember you posted the price list for the SuperCrew F150 while back, > are the prices > > still the same or did they change? Also, Could you let us know when do > they set a > > delivery time. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > --- Union Auto > > > Yes, Supercrew production began Jan 3 and orders are being accepted. > > > Delivery times are unknown at this point. > > > > > > Nathan > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:37:45 -0800 From: Ralph Lindberg Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. At 11:41 AM -0800 1/11/00, John Jensen - Ericsson wrote: > >This brings this whole email thread question... I received a citation from >a state >trooper. He clocked me at 107. Wrote me for Reckless Driving. Oddly... I am >looking to fight this being I have a top speed governor on my truck. Heck, the >judge doesn't know about my Superchip or the use of my Gear Vendors Overdrive. >And thus it makes the officers testimony null. OK, so you want us to help you beat a ticket you admit you earned. You want to document the governor function, but neglect to inform them of your installation of a kit to cut it out. Do you understand what you are doing? It's called 'Obstruction of Justice', most of the time that is a FELONY. Then you want us to help you, that's called 'An Accessory to Obstruction of Justice', which can also be a FELONY. Also, the Stater will probably know about the governor function, they tend to be car nuts and well informed. They would know about kits to override that function. I suggest you forget the entire thing and pay the fine. A felony conviction would be reported to the INS and you would be headed home, never to return.(Assuming you are a Swedish citizen working in the USA for Erickson, like your address suggested). Other wise you could just end up in jail (and probably lose your job) >SO HELP ME OUT..... Where's this evidence of a "TOP SPEED GOVERNOR" I'm >looking for? > >Hehehehe... Keep it safe, >John Ya right, you have a ticket for Reckless Driving, that you want help to illegally beat, and then you say 'keep it safe'... ya right Oh yes, way I am at it, did you bother to read my request that people trim unneeded text in their replies? Your's had four footers and more header crap then was needed for your reply. If you can't be bothered to not ask us to commit a crime at least give us a break and not send a 5k bytes (or so) of unneeded crap Ralph Lindberg ICQ 5988954 RV and Camping FAQ Just because MS-Window's holds 90% of the market doesn't mean it's superior. Remember 90% of all animals are insects. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:45:19 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg No the colors are as he quoted. The Ford web site is noutorios for being incorrect. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth J. Nagy" To: "Ford List" <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; "Expedition List"Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg > Does anyone know if the Premium Sport Appearance Package is available with > the Deep Wedgewood Blue exterior color? The dealer I went to and the Ford > brochure say no, but I was able to configure the truck like that on Ford's > "u-build-it" web site. The brochure only lists white, silver, black, or > laser red avail with the Premium pkg. I was hoping for a small loophole > here, since I really like the Sport pkg and the Deep Wedgewood Blue color. > > Thanks > Ken > > Kenneth J. Nagy knagy IXTelecom.com> IDT Corporation www.idt.net > 225 Old New Brunswick Road, Suite 300 > Piscataway, NJ 08854 > > Voice/Fax: +1.732.465.7845 > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:51:13 -0600 From: jmann living.comSubject: RE: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg The Brochure is correct. Don't trust the u-build-it, because I know who built the u-build-it. Anyway, if you want the color keyed bumpers (about the only difference, aside from the damn cheezy sport sticker), do what I did on my Lariat. Have the dealer work a couple of non chrome bumpers (~$500 for the set) into the deal and have a body shop paint them to match. DON'T paint the stock chrome bumper, the paint wont hold. Yes, you do a little leg work here, but you get what you want. Joe - -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth J. Nagy [mailto:knagy ixtelecom.com]Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:26 PM To: Ford List; Expedition List Subject: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg Does anyone know if the Premium Sport Appearance Package is available with the Deep Wedgewood Blue exterior color? The dealer I went to and the Ford brochure say no, but I was able to configure the truck like that on Ford's "u-build-it" web site. The brochure only lists white, silver, black, or laser red avail with the Premium pkg. I was hoping for a small loophole here, since I really like the Sport pkg and the Deep Wedgewood Blue color. Thanks Ken Kenneth J. Nagy knagy IXTelecom.comIDT Corporation www.idt.net 225 Old New Brunswick Road, Suite 300 Piscataway, NJ 08854 Voice/Fax: +1.732.465.7845 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:03:56 -0500 From: "Kenneth J. Nagy" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg Thanks for the info guys. Joe, I should have specified this was concerning an Expedition. I like the Premium Sport Pkg because it comes with 17" wheels, wheel lip moldings, and side step bars, as compared to a regular XLT with running boards and no moldings. Ken - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 15:51 Subject: RE: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg > The Brochure is correct. Don't trust the u-build-it, because I know who > built the u-build-it. Anyway, if you want the color keyed bumpers (about > the only difference, aside from the damn cheezy sport sticker), do what I > did on my Lariat. Have the dealer work a couple of non chrome bumpers > (~$500 for the set) into the deal and have a body shop paint them to match. > DON'T paint the stock chrome bumper, the paint wont hold. Yes, you do a > little leg work here, but you get what you want. > > Joe > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth J. Nagy [mailto:knagy ixtelecom.com]> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:26 PM > To: Ford List; Expedition List > Subject: FTE 97up - XLT color ? with Premium Sport Pkg > > Does anyone know if the Premium Sport Appearance Package is available with > the Deep Wedgewood Blue exterior color? The dealer I went to and the Ford > brochure say no, but I was able to configure the truck like that on Ford's > "u-build-it" web site. The brochure only lists white, silver, black, or > laser red avail with the Premium pkg. I was hoping for a small loophole > here, since I really like the Sport pkg and the Deep Wedgewood Blue color. > > Thanks > Ken > > Kenneth J. Nagy knagy IXTelecom.com> IDT Corporation www.idt.net > 225 Old New Brunswick Road, Suite 300 > Piscataway, NJ 08854 > > Voice/Fax: +1.732.465.7845 > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:38:03 -0800 From: John Jensen - Ericsson Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Hey Ralph... Since you want to live other people lives... like mine. Read on. > OK, so you want us to help you beat a ticket you admit you earned. You >want to document the governor function, but neglect to inform them of your >installation of a kit to cut it out. Oddly enough... My Superchip was not installed, but had been sent back to Superchip for recalibration. So where is this wrong? Huh smartypants?! > Do you understand what you are doing? It's called 'Obstruction of >Justice', most of the time that is a FELONY. Then you want us to help you, >that's called 'An Accessory to Obstruction of Justice', which can also be a >FELONY. Ok... so you wanna be an attorney. Seems one A-hole to another. But maybe your a nice guy. Who knows. It seems you've never stolen anything, never jaywalked, ran a red light, sped down the road... I'm sure you get the point. > Also, the Stater will probably know about the governor function, they >tend to be car nuts and well informed. They would know about kits to >override that function. That Yahoo that wrote me the ticket was not going to know of any motor part or kit. He didn't even know what my plate meant. And for the most of us... it's pretty easy. > I suggest you forget the entire thing and pay the fine. A felony >conviction would be reported to the INS and you would be headed home, never >to return.(Assuming you are a Swedish citizen working in the USA for >Erickson, like your address suggested). Other wise you could just end up in >jail (and probably lose your job) First off... Your assuming. Never assume. It's a waste of your time and especially MINE!! Considering my email, it has nothing to do with my email thread. In fact, it has nothing to do with YOU. NOR does my job have anything to do with this mail or my ticket. I think it would be best you just keep to yourself on this one or go help the guy who needs to know about his flux capacitor that went out. > Ya right, you have a ticket for Reckless Driving, that you want help to >illegally beat, and then you say 'keep it safe'... ya right Even Mario Andretti can tell you to be safe. But then again, who would you be to tell Mr. Andretti how to be. For that matter.... me. > Oh yes, way I am at it, did you bother to read my request that people >trim unneeded text in their replies? Your's had four footers and more >header crap then was needed for your reply. If you can't be bothered to not >ask us to commit a crime at least give us a break and not send a 5k bytes >(or so) of unneeded crap I should have just trimmed your whole response to my mail... that would be trimming the "unneeded crap" And for your knowledge.. I'm sure your just even more peeved when I tow my 10k pound trailer passed you on the grade.... at 75MPH.... oh... I'm sorry... that's not safe. For that.. I'll never do it again "DAD"!! Heheheheh... Lighten up. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:50:52 -0600 From: "Mike Fairleigh" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - door replacement I've heard people on the list say it doesn't effect the 2000's, but there is a 2000 F-150 in the parking lot at my office that has cracks on both doors. Sorry... Mike Fairleigh mikef sky.net...Always remembering our veterans. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 4:09 PM Subject: RE: FTE 97up - door replacement > Does anyone know if this is a problem in the 2000 F150s?? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Pogatetz [mailto:Doug_Pogatetz mw.3com.com]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 7:53 AM > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: FTE 97up - door replacement > > > > I have the door issue also. I had just went out of the 3 year warranty when > I > brought it in. They are being pretty cool. There is a factory fix coming > out. > They are waiting for that. It is something so that they don't have to > replace > the whole door. > > Doug > > *************************************************************************** > > Bill, > I have installed a Gibson cat-back, KN filter, tornado air intake > modification sleeve and a hyper tech chip. All of these items were > installed for performance modification and to aid in towing a fifth wheel. > I did notice a substantial increase in torque, however, my mileage only > increased about 2 mpg. I now get 12-14 towing and about 18 hwy. One > drawback is with a computer modification of my type, I have to use premium > fuel. Since gas prices in my area are high (1.50 gallon for premium) the > price offsets the mods. Performance wise, I feel a substantial increase. > Also, I have had the famous crack on my door. I went to the dealer and they > will replace the door for free....!!! Has anyone had any problems with a > door replacement..? > > thanks Boomer > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:18:01 +0100 From: "Kirk Werner" Subject: FTE 97up - Air Tornado and K&N I don't think a K&N or the Air Tornado will net you much in the way of measurable increases,but I do likethe K7N filters because the bottom line is they let more air into the motor. The elements allow air to pass more smoothly and freely thru. The Air Tornado system causes turbulence. It's their premise that this turbulent air is more effective in heling with teh aspiration of the engine. If you looka t what they each claim to do, K&N and Air Tornado are at the opposite end of the argument. One smooths out the air flow, the other causes turbulence. I don't know if it makes one bit of difference, but I spoke to a performance specialist about this a couple years ago, and he said go with the K&N and do not combine the two. Just passing on what I was told. - ---------- >From: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com (97up-list-digest)>To: 97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com>Subject: 97up-list-digest V3 #9 >Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2000, 12:10 PM > > Bill, > I have installed a Gibson cat-back, KN filter, tornado air intake > modification sleeve and a hyper tech chip. All of these items were > installed for performance modification and to aid in towing a fifth wheel. > I did notice a substantial increase in torque, however, my mileage only > increased about 2 mpg. I now get 12-14 towing and about 18 hwy. One > drawback is with a computer modification of my type, I have to use premium > fuel. Since gas prices in my area are high (1.50 gallon for premium) the > price offsets the mods. Performance wise, I feel a substantial increase. > Also, I have had the famous crack on my door. I went to the dealer and they > will replace the door for free....!!! Has anyone had any problems with a > door replacement..? > > thanks Boomer == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of 97up-list-digest V3 #10 ****************************** +------ Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans ------+ | Send posts to 97up-list ford-trucks.com, || List removal information is on the web site. | +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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