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From: owner-97up-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (97up-list-digest) To: 97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 97up-list-digest V3 #9 Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 97up-list-digest Tuesday, January 11 2000 Volume 03 : Number 009 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 97up - Re: Stuck 250 Re: FTE 97up - RE: replacement RE: FTE 97up - superduty probs Re: FTE 97up - superduty probs FTE 97up - door replacement FTE 97up - F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy & Own FTE 97up - Mirrors / etc.... FTE 97up - Frosty Mirrors Re: FTE 97up - 5.8L engine question. FTE 97up - Post PSD Fuel Filter Change Report FTE 97up - Ford Dealer Qualifications Re: FTE 97up - 00 F-250 SD/PSD/CC/Shorty Serious oil leak. FTE 97up - 30,000 service FTE 97up - Ownerconnection.com RE: FTE 97up - Ownerconnection.com FTE 97up - Questions for Bob Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 service Re: FTE 97up - Ownerconnection.com Re: FTE 97up - Post PSD Fuel Filter Change Report Re: FTE 97up - F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy & Own FTE 97up - Need Help on Turbo Bolt Part Number Re: FTE 97up - RE: replacement Re: FTE 97up - Need Help on Turbo Bolt Part Number Re: FTE 97up - U Bolt torque specs? RE: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? RE: FTE 97up - door replacement FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:05:34 EST From: BFunk33 aol.com Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Stuck 250 I don't understand what good a wench would do in this situation. Maybe get the attention of a passing truck, to help pull you out? Can we assume you're not married or otherwise attached? I know my wife would object to my carrying a wench with me in case I got stuck. Bill ;-) ORIGINAL POST: << From: RSnovi aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 97up - U Bolt torque specs? well after sticking my F250SD PSD in the mud last night , it pretty much convinced me the i need that extra 2in clearance in the front with the front leveling, i will be ordering something this week. Will let you guys know what i think about it when i get the kit and install. BTW : 5hrs of digging and braking jerk strap 3 times is not my ideal weekend. Wish i had pics of it, but it was dark. all i can say is if you put a F250SD on the axles, its not going to move. In the future i can see a wench on the front or one that goes in revicever. >> ====================================================== == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 04:38:53 -0800 (PST) From: Hunter Subject: Re: FTE 97up - RE: replacement I didn't, but I had problem replacing my spare tire. I had 8 cuts on it and they look really bad, scary bad. The dealer won't even think about it, he start laughing and said all trucks spare tire look like that. Has anyone replaced the spare tire? Hunter. > Also, I have had the famous crack on my door. I went to the dealer and they > will replace the door for free....!!! Has anyone had any problems with a > door replacement..? > > thanks Boomer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 06:42:14 -0600 From: "Strukel, Mike" Subject: RE: FTE 97up - superduty probs Aaron, Let me know what part of Minneapolis you live in. I live in a southern suburb (Prior Lake) and have dealt with many of the Ford dealers. I can make some recommendations. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Martin [mailto:martinaa hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 9:55 PM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Subject: FTE 97up - superduty probs Recently while driving at 65 with the cruise on my speedo suddenly dropped to zero, the ABS light came on, and the tach climbed about 200 rpms. After a few moments everything returned to normal. Later it happened again, and the service engine soon light came on. The engine service warning stayed on for the remaining 2 hours of my trip, but the other symptoms did not repeat. Any ideas out there? I'm planning to bring my truck in to a dealer but am new to the Minneapolis, Mn area and do not yet have a dealer I feel comfortable with. Any suggestions? My truck is a 99 superduty, v-10, auto, 3.73, about 29,000 miles. I have a k&n filter and dynomax muffler (these mods along with a light foot on the throttle have helped me reach a high of 15.8 mpg) Under a load (bobcat, trailer, tools, materials, about 11,000lbs) she has slightly better throttle response than our 97 powerstroke and then they are dead even. ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:25:08 -0800 From: "family email" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - superduty probs Mike, I just read your note here and see your from Mpls.As I am as well. I am going to be buying a PSD Excursion this week, and was wondering what dealers in the area are good as far as service goes. If possible I might buy the vehicle from them too , so that I can have a "realitionship" with them Thanks Ken O Eagan, MN > Let me know what part of Minneapolis you live in. I live in a southern > suburb (Prior Lake) and have dealt with many of the Ford dealers. I can > make some recommendations. > > Mike == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:52:50 -0600 From: "Doug Pogatetz" Subject: FTE 97up - door replacement I have the door issue also. I had just went out of the 3 year warranty when I brought it in. They are being pretty cool. There is a factory fix coming out. They are waiting for that. It is something so that they don't have to replace the whole door. Doug *************************************************************************** Bill, I have installed a Gibson cat-back, KN filter, tornado air intake modification sleeve and a hyper tech chip. All of these items were installed for performance modification and to aid in towing a fifth wheel. I did notice a substantial increase in torque, however, my mileage only increased about 2 mpg. I now get 12-14 towing and about 18 hwy. One drawback is with a computer modification of my type, I have to use premium fuel. Since gas prices in my area are high (1.50 gallon for premium) the price offsets the mods. Performance wise, I feel a substantial increase. Also, I have had the famous crack on my door. I went to the dealer and they will replace the door for free....!!! Has anyone had any problems with a door replacement..? thanks Boomer == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:00:30 EST From: JDavis1277 aol.com Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy & Own I was looking into buying an F-150HD SC Lariat with the 5.4 and automatic. At $150 over invoice it would have run a bit under $26K optioned out the way I want. So, just for fun I checked out the cost for an F-250SD SC Lariat with the V-10 and automatic with similar equipment. At the same $150 over invoice it also would have run a bit under $26K. Wow, I thought the F-250 would have been a lot more money compared to the F-150. But, there are some features included in the F-250 that are extra cost on the F-150. Clearly, for towing work, the F-250 looked like the better buy. For a nice looking truck that rides like a car, the F-150 seems to take it. Then, just for fun, I decided to compare depreciation. The F-250 holds a much higher percentage of its invoice price than does the F-150 at the one year point. Consequently, guys, I've decided I can't afford the higher cost of ownership of the F-150. Frankly, I was VERY surprised by the outcome of my little desk top analysis. Any comments? Butch == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 06:38:05 PST From: "Scott Matus" Subject: FTE 97up - Mirrors / etc.... I have the same vehicle as you do. I also have the CD-ROM that has the complete wiring diagrams. Point 1: I can e-mail you the pinout and picture of the harness. Point 2: I have had my fender liners out. There are 2 locating pin holes in the fender about 4" apart. Below this line of holes is another hole below about 1-1/2" and approximately 3/4" diameter. (my guess here is that Ford will offer Fender Blinkers within the badge.) I installed the fender blinkers from a late model Saab about 2" below my badges. Scott ______________Original____________________ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:17:05 EST From: MadPoodle aol.com Subject: FTE 97up - TT mirrors Mornin! 1) Hopefully someone out there has disassembled there truck a little further than I have. I have a 99 F250SD with the stock power mirrors. I want to change to the 2000 power trailer tow mirrors, but my dealer cant seem to figure out if the plugs will be the same till they order them in, and of course, hit me for a restocking charge if they dont work! Anybody tried this, or upgraded their 99 to the 2000 power mirrors? 2) Anyone had to replace the badges on the fender yet? I need to know if they have a locating pin behind them, and the corresponding hole in the fender..?? TIA! Scott 99 F250 SD SC PSD 6Spd ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 06:44:57 PST From: "Scott Matus" Subject: FTE 97up - Frosty Mirrors I have a solution for you. Make sure you Rain-X the mirrors. Just carry a milk jug of HOT water with you in the morning. The Rain-x disperses the water and the heat will maintain water not ice while the water drains off. Scott. ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:05:43 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 5.8L engine question. No the 351 in the later F-series is a Windsor not a Modified or Cleavland. It doesn't produce the power the original engines did due to emmisions and mileage concerns. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Wall / Steve Offiler" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 4:00 PM Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 5.8L engine question. > At 01:19 PM 1/9/00 EST, you wrote: > >hey eveyone. i was watching car and driver tv this morning and they talked > >about a mercury cyclone sports car from back in the 70s. it had the 351 > >windsor engine. it said it put out a factory 290 hp and 385lbft. torque. > >i am wondering if these specs are the same for the engine put in the ford > >trucks. > >if so, this engine would have put chevy's 350 to shame, even with vortec > >heads used since '94. > > > >thanks for the info > > > >bill > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > Bill: > > Nope. The 351 in my '97 F250HD is a 351M. "M" for modified. Seems this > engine traces its lineage to a 400, destroked to 351 for fuel economy and > emissions reasons. Not the same engine as the 351W (Windsor) or 351C > (Cleveland). Quoting output from memory, my engine makes 200 HP at 3800rpm > and 330 ft-lb at 1900 rpm. It is definitely a puller. And it runs out of > steam, making mostly noise during passing maneuvers. > > Steve O. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:23:13 -0600 From: "Charles Abraham" Subject: FTE 97up - Post PSD Fuel Filter Change Report Well I did it. I successfully changed my fuel filter over the weekend. Thanks to the members here on their posts and direct e-mails, it helped a lot. And your right, the task is pretty simple and easy to do. I used my oil filter wrench to loosen the cap on the housing. Drained the sump by opening the water-in-fuel drain valve. And removed the old filter and replaced it with the new one. (Yes, I also remove the old bevel gasket and installed a new one along with a new O-ring gasket.) I then hand tighten the cap back on and gave it about a 3/4 turn with the filter wrench to it made contact with the aluminum housing - you can feel it. On the inside of the sump walls I found long, aluminum thread shavings. That was certainly a surprise to me, so I carefully removed them. Anyone encounter such artifacts? Also, during the change process I happened to glance up at my turbo unit to discover one of the bolts missing. I check the bolts regularly, and know for a fact the missing bolt was there last week when I had changed my oil. I know there is a TSB on this problem - but never expected it to happen so quickly to me. Charles. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:37:52 PST From: "Scott Matus" Subject: FTE 97up - Ford Dealer Qualifications I have a problem with the dealers' service departments. I have been searcing the Denver Ford market for a warranty dealer for 2 weeks now. I speak with the Service Manager at each dealership. I proceed to ask them the same question, "What makes your Ford service stand out ffrom the rest of the dealerships in the Denver market?" I usually hear a long pause and one of two responses - "I have never been asked that question.? and I don't know how to answer that question!" I'm fed up with the lack of professionalism in the Factory Warranty market. I would love to perform all of my own repairs. I simply don't know what to do. Does anyone know of a database or evaluation website that I can qualify these dealers on service? Scott - ------------Original------------- Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 19:55:25 PST From: "Aaron Martin" Subject: FTE 97up - superduty probs I'm planning to bring my truck in to a dealer but am new to the Minneapolis, Mn area and do not yet have a dealer I feel comfortable with. Any suggestions? ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:31:38 -0600 From: "Charles Abraham" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 00 F-250 SD/PSD/CC/Shorty Serious oil leak. I also sprung a high pressure oil leak at the fuel rails, around 5K miles. (And over this past weekend discovered I was missing one of the bolts on the turbo unit.) Otherwise, everything has been perfect. RSnovi aol.com wrote: > -i had a probelm on my 99 F250SD PSD.sc.4x4. shorty w/ a oil leak on a high > pressure hose i lost about a qt at 20K miles. > > anyone know where i can check the part no. to see exactly what they R&R'd? > > RS > > I have a new SD that developed a serious oil leak at the rear main. The > truck only had 1500 miles on it. The dealer had to remove the transmission > and replace the rear crankshaft seal. I hope this in not a "Omen" of things > to come. Anyone else had a simular oil leak?? Dave from Colorado... > > David J. Burry > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) > by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:11:18 -0500 > Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by > rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:11:12 -0500 > Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id BAA14235; Mon, > 10 Jan 2000 01:09:07 -0500 (EST) > Received: from imo-d10.mx (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by > ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id BAA14228; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:09:05 -0500 (EST) > From: DJBurry aol.com > X-Authentication-Warning: ford-trucks.com: Host imo-d10.mx.aol.com > [205.188.157.42] claimed to be imo-d10.mx > Received: from DJBurry aol.com > by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id s.bc.bc0f3e93 (3849) > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:08:27 -0500 (EST) > Message-ID: > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:08:26 EST > Subject: FTE 97up - 00 F-250 SD/PSD/CC/Shorty Serious oil leak. > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com> Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > >> > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:06:56 -0800 (PST) From: Hunter Subject: FTE 97up - 30,000 service Hi ya all, I just did the 30,000 services on my truck last week and this is what they told me they did to the truck: Change engine oil and filter Lube caliper guides Rotate four tires Automotive transmission service, flush converter Replace air cleaner element Replace spark plugs Clean battery terminals 17-point vehicle inspection I also had them change the fuel filter and they charged me $49.95 The total is $395.69 for the 8 Cyl. Platinum and $363.69 for the Resistor + the $49.95 for the fuel filter. They also asked me to change the breaks (which I declined), I took the truck and it was fine for 2 days, now I have a noise coming from the front tire (jumping wheel). When I drive down the road 35-40 Mph going up hill, I will have it. It sounds like you drive over 20 speed bump all at once. So I'm taken it back. Any one had this problem before? Hunter P.s. I asked them about the 60,000 maintenance and they told me it's the same except they will change the PVC valve. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:19:10 PST From: "Scott Matus" Subject: FTE 97up - Ownerconnection.com Has anyone visited the Ford Owner's Site? www.ownerconnection.com Scott. ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:24:36 -0500 From: "Suarez, William" Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Ownerconnection.com It contains some good information Scott. You can register your vehicle, using VIN, and they will flag you about TSB's, recalls, etc. When I had to have to work performed on my SD disc brakes (warped rotors), I used the Owner's Connection to get help from Ford and it made a BIG difference. Regards, Bill Suarez - -----Original Message----- From: Scott Matus [mailto:mr_scsi hotmail.com]Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 11:19 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comSubject: FTE 97up - Ownerconnection.com Has anyone visited the Ford Owner's Site? www.ownerconnection.com Scott. ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:25:27 -0500 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: FTE 97up - Questions for Bob As a lot of people use F-150s as cars it is understandable that they are outfitted as cars. Would it be possible for Ford to indulge what seems to be the minority who still use these trucks as trucks with lower gear ratios i.e. 4.10 or 4.30:1 in the F-150s? A manual transmission with with the 5.4L would be nice too. Kindest regards Jean Marc Chartier == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:48:43 -0500 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 service Hunter wrote: > > Hi ya all, > > I just did the 30,000 services on my truck last week and this is what they told me they > did to the truck: > > Change engine oil and filter > Lube caliper guides > Rotate four tires > Automotive transmission service, flush converter > Replace air cleaner element > Replace spark plugs > Clean battery terminals > 17-point vehicle inspection > > I also had them change the fuel filter and they charged me $49.95 > > The total is $395.69 for the 8 Cyl. Platinum and $363.69 for the Resistor + the $49.95 > for the fuel filter. > > They also asked me to change the breaks (which I declined), I took the truck and it was > fine for 2 days, now I have a noise coming from the front tire (jumping wheel). When I > drive down the road 35-40 Mph going up hill, I will have it. It sounds like you drive > over 20 speed bump all at once. So I'm taken it back. > Any one had this problem before? > > Hunter > > P.s. I asked them about the 60,000 maintenance and they told me it's the same except > they will change the PVC valve. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html Hunter, Check your warranty manual and I believe you will find that the plugs are covered up to 36,000 miles. Suggest to the Dealer that if they changed them it was necessary. If they say yes then mention the warranty and ask for your money back on the plugs and install charges. Regards Jean Marc Chartier == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:49:35 EST From: "Christian Bagley" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ownerconnection.com I have, it's ok. I think you can get on a few mailing lists and browse some topics applicable to your vehicle but IMHO it's not all that great. Chris >From: "Scott Matus" >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>Subject: FTE 97up - Ownerconnection.com >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:19:10 PST > >Has anyone visited the Ford Owner's Site? > >www.ownerconnection.com > >Scott. ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:06:49 -0800 From: johny Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Post PSD Fuel Filter Change Report > On the inside of the sump walls I found long, aluminum thread shavings. > That was certainly a surprise to me, so I carefully removed them. Anyone > encounter such artifacts? Mine was clean. Possible artifacts from the machining of the water/fuel separator? At most I've had some pin head sized particles from the the first filter change. Looked like some particles from the first filter install (factory install). I've got about 4K before I do the second filter change so I'll look again at that time. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:01:11 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy & Own Don't compare 1 year deprciation on F-150 vs F-250. Due to the fact that the Super Duty is so new, their bringing a premium used (so did the F150 when it came out), but once the newness wears off it will be comparable. If you go back to 1996 to compare, or compare Dodge's thats how to find out how much a 3/4ton will be worth compared to a 1/2. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 8:00 AM Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 vs F-250 Cost to Buy & Own > I was looking into buying an F-150HD SC Lariat with the 5.4 and automatic. > At $150 over invoice it would have run a bit under $26K optioned out the way > I want. So, just for fun I checked out the cost for an F-250SD SC Lariat > with the V-10 and automatic with similar equipment. At the same $150 over > invoice it also would have run a bit under $26K. > > Wow, I thought the F-250 would have been a lot more money compared to the > F-150. But, there are some features included in the F-250 that are extra > cost on the F-150. Clearly, for towing work, the F-250 looked like the > better buy. For a nice looking truck that rides like a car, the F-150 seems > to take it. > > Then, just for fun, I decided to compare depreciation. The F-250 holds a > much higher percentage of its invoice price than does the F-150 at the one > year point. > > Consequently, guys, I've decided I can't afford the higher cost of ownership > of the F-150. Frankly, I was VERY surprised by the outcome of my little desk > top analysis. > > Any comments? > > Butch > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:53:19 -0600 From: "Charles Abraham" Subject: FTE 97up - Need Help on Turbo Bolt Part Number Anyone know the correct part number for the turbo bolt? Ford's Parts department faxed me an exploded view drawing of the "Turbocharger, Pedestal & Exhaust Back Pressure Device" (dated 7/19/99), and it shows part# 1822779-C91. However, Ford's SSM#13127, shows #1831344-C91, for 7.3L built prior to 4/1/99. My truck as I recall was built the middle/end of March '99. So I'm right on the fence. If I were to guess it's the #1822779-C91, but would sure like to be certain. Thanks, Charles. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:07:45 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - RE: replacement Yes we've had to do a couple of them (both STX 4x2's with the 17" wheels) they were overtightend at the factory and ruined (cosmetically, would still function as a spare) Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunter" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 6:38 AM Subject: Re: FTE 97up - RE: replacement > I didn't, but I had problem replacing my spare tire. I had 8 cuts on it and they look > really bad, scary bad. The dealer won't even think about it, he start laughing and > said all trucks spare tire look like that. Has anyone replaced the spare tire? > > Hunter. > > > > Also, I have had the famous crack on my door. I went to the dealer and they > > will replace the door for free....!!! Has anyone had any problems with a > > door replacement..? > > > > thanks Boomer > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:10:18 -0600 From: "Union Auto" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Need Help on Turbo Bolt Part Number Have the dealer run a OASIS report, it will give you the exaxt build date of your truck. Nathan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Abraham" To: <97up-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 1:53 PM Subject: FTE 97up - Need Help on Turbo Bolt Part Number > Anyone know the correct part number for the turbo bolt? > > Ford's Parts department faxed me an exploded view drawing > of the "Turbocharger, Pedestal & Exhaust Back Pressure > Device" (dated 7/19/99), and it shows part# 1822779-C91. > > However, Ford's SSM#13127, shows #1831344-C91, for 7.3L > built prior to 4/1/99. My truck as I recall was built the middle/end > of March '99. So I'm right on the fence. > > If I were to guess it's the #1822779-C91, but would sure like to be > certain. > > Thanks, > > Charles. > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:35:41 4 From: "Vaughn (VDB)" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - U Bolt torque specs? What level kit are you going with?? Vaughn well after sticking my F250SD PSD in the mud last night , it pretty much convinced me the i need that extra 2in clearance in the front with the front leveling, i will be ordering something this week. Will let you guys know what i think about it when i get the kit and install. BTW : 5hrs of digging and braking jerk strap 3 times is not my ideal weekend. Wish i had pics of it, but it was dark. all i can say is if you put a F250SD on the axles, its not going to move. In the future i can see a wench on the front or one that goes in revicever. going to bed RS == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:03:47 -0600 From: jmann living.comSubject: RE: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? Yes, I'll second that. I went through the option book at the dealer very thoroughly when I ordered my 2000 150. The 2000 150HD is the replacement for the 1999 250LD. Keep in mind that the new four door F150 SuperCrew will be coming out soon and you might be able to get the 7700 GVWR option on it as well. - -----Original Message----- From: CERESJohnG aol.com [mailto:CERESJohnGaol.com]Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 11:12 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comSubject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150HD??? You have it right. For 2000, the 250LD was changed to a 150 option. Of course, few dealers will stock them. I'll be willing to bet this was a special order where the financing didn't go through. Here in VA that's usually the case for non standard stuff in the dealers inventory. John G == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:09:41 -0600 From: jmann living.comSubject: RE: FTE 97up - door replacement Does anyone know if this is a problem in the 2000 F150s?? - -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pogatetz [mailto:Doug_Pogatetz mw.3com.com]Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 7:53 AM To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comSubject: FTE 97up - door replacement I have the door issue also. I had just went out of the 3 year warranty when I brought it in. They are being pretty cool. There is a factory fix coming out. They are waiting for that. It is something so that they don't have to replace the whole door. Doug *************************************************************************** Bill, I have installed a Gibson cat-back, KN filter, tornado air intake modification sleeve and a hyper tech chip. All of these items were installed for performance modification and to aid in towing a fifth wheel. I did notice a substantial increase in torque, however, my mileage only increased about 2 mpg. I now get 12-14 towing and about 18 hwy. One drawback is with a computer modification of my type, I have to use premium fuel. Since gas prices in my area are high (1.50 gallon for premium) the price offsets the mods. Performance wise, I feel a substantial increase. Also, I have had the famous crack on my door. I went to the dealer and they will replace the door for free....!!! Has anyone had any problems with a door replacement..? thanks Boomer == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:32:27 -0800 From: John Jensen - Ericsson Subject: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Does anyone have a phone number or link to where I can get hard (verbal or paperwork) information on the top speed governor for my 97 F350?? I've called a Ford hotline number, checked various web sites and actually had a phone conversation with 2 local dealers. Some of them don't even know there is a governor. I even had one service guy ask me what the top speed on the speedo was. I told him 90. Then he tried to tell me that was when the PCM (computer) doesn't know what to do, and that is when it starts shutting down. RIGHT! What is he thinking! So if the speedo said 180 I could do that speed or not have the motor shut down?! Give me a break... how did this guy get hired? Hehehehehe.... And the only info I have found is from Superchips in Florida. They claim Ford has a governor at 98mph which shuts down the injectors. What do you all think? Anyway, I hope somebody can help. John == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:29:50 EST From: RSnovi aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. In a message dated 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, j.jensen ericsson.com writes:mine cut out at 92 mph on 99 F250 PSD 4x4 SC shorty RS << Subj: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Date: 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time From: j.jensen ericsson.com (John Jensen - Ericsson)Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.comReply-to: ford-trucks.com">97up-list ford-trucks.com To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comDoes anyone have a phone number or link to where I can get hard (verbal or paperwork) information on the top speed governor for my 97 F350?? I've called a Ford hotline number, checked various web sites and actually had a phone conversation with 2 local dealers. Some of them don't even know there is a governor. I even had one service guy ask me what the top speed on the speedo was. I told him 90. Then he tried to tell me that was when the PCM (computer) doesn't know what to do, and that is when it starts shutting down. RIGHT! What is he thinking! So if the speedo said 180 I could do that speed or not have the motor shut down?! Give me a break... how did this guy get hired? Hehehehehe.... And the only info I have found is from Superchips in Florida. They claim Ford has a governor at 98mph which shuts down the injectors. What do you all think? Anyway, I hope somebody can help. John == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:28 -0500 Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:14 -0500 Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24024; Mon,10 Jan 2000 17:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from gwu.ericy.com (gwu.ericy.com [208.196.3.162]) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24016; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr4.exu.ericsson.se (mr4u.ericy.com [208.238.116.99]) by gwu.ericy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03723 for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:55 -0600 (CST)Received: from vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (mail.sd.us.am.ericsson.se [142.133.130.27]) by mr4.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24762 for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:47 -0600 (CST)Received: from jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se [142.133.171.201]) by vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.14) with SMTP id OAA03653 for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:23 -0800 (PST)Message-Id: <4.1.20000110142547.00c48500 nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se>X-Sender: jjensen nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.seX-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:32:27 -0800 To: 97up-list ford-trucks.comFrom: John Jensen - Ericsson Subject: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.comPrecedence: bulk Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com>> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:50:20 -0600 From: tvsjr sprynet.comSubject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. Car & Driver (I think) claimed 95 indicated, 92 actual on the '99-'00. Mine shuts down at 95 (soon, I'll have a computer and it'll shut down when the motor dies). It's a 250SD 5.4/4.10 4x2 SC short-bed. At 06:29 PM 01/10/2000 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, >j.jensen ericsson.com writes:> > >mine cut out at 92 mph on 99 F250 PSD 4x4 SC shorty > >RS ><< Subj: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > Date: 1/10/00 5:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: j.jensen ericsson.com (John Jensen - Ericsson)> Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com> Reply-to: ford-trucks.com">97up-list ford-trucks.c>om > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > Does anyone have a phone number or link to where I can get hard (verbal or > paperwork) information on the top speed governor for my 97 F350?? > > I've called a Ford hotline number, checked various web sites and actually > had a phone conversation with 2 local dealers. Some of them don't even know > there is a governor. I even had one service guy ask me what the top speed > on the speedo was. I told him 90. Then he tried to tell me that was when > the PCM (computer) doesn't know what to do, and that is when it starts > shutting down. RIGHT! What is he thinking! So if the speedo said 180 I > could do that speed or not have the motor shut down?! Give me a break... > how did this guy get hired? Hehehehehe.... > > And the only info I have found is from Superchips in Florida. They claim > Ford has a governor at 98mph which shuts down the injectors. What do you > all think? > > Anyway, I hope somebody can help. > > John > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) >by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:28 -0500 > Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [192.41.63.203]) by >rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:33:14 -0500 > Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24024; Mon,>10 Jan 2000 17:30:29 -0500 (EST) > Received: from gwu.ericy.com (gwu.ericy.com [208.196.3.162]) by >ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id RAA24016; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:30:27 -0500 (EST) > Received: from mr4.exu.ericsson.se (mr4u.ericy.com [208.238.116.99]) > by gwu.ericy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03723 > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:55 -0600 (CST)> Received: from vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (mail.sd.us.am.ericsson.se >[142.133.130.27]) > by mr4.exu.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24762 > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:47 -0600 (CST)> Received: from jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (jjensen.sd.us.am.ericsson.se >[142.133.171.201]) > by vicodin.sd.us.am.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.14) with SMTP id OAA03653 > for <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:23 -0800 (PST)> Message-Id: <4.1.20000110142547.00c48500 nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se>> X-Sender: jjensen nala.sd.us.am.ericsson.se> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:32:27 -0800 > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> From: John Jensen - Ericsson > Subject: FTE 97up - 97 F350, Top speed governor documentation needed. > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com> Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com> > >> >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of 97up-list-digest V3 #9 ***************************** +------ Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans ------+ | Send posts to 97up-list ford-trucks.com, || List removal information is on the web site. | +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+.... 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