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Re: FTE 97up - Changing 99.5 PSD Fuel Filter
Re: FTE 97up - i think i have a problem
Re: FTE 97up - Changing 99.5 PSD Fuel Filter
Re: FTE 97up - Changing 99.5 PSD Fuel Filter
FTE 97up - partsvoice.com
FTE 97up - Continuous Wheel Balancers
FTE 97up - fuel sender problem?
Re: FTE 97up - i think i have a problem
Re: FTE 97up - fuel sender problem?
Re: FTE 97up - fuel sender problem?
FTE 97up - URL of interior website
FTE 97up - non ford content
Re: FTE 97up - non ford content

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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 08:30:07 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham" agcs.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Changing 99.5 PSD Fuel Filter

Thanks RS and John.

About the tight cover, how tight did you make the cover when re-installing it?

I checked the FAQs on ford -diesel. com, for "fuel filter changes", and on removing
the tight cover they stated that in lieu of a strap wrench one could use two
grip-lock
priers, each being attached to an opposite cover fin/blade. Then, holding these as
handle
bars, apply sufficient torque to release the cover. Also, on draining the sump bowl
of
fuel, they recommended turning the ignition key to the "On" position with the water
drain valve in the open position until no more fuel comes out. Good advice?

johny wrote:

> As RS notes, the cover is on tight. Use a strap wrench, or whatever you use
> to remove the oil filter. They are about the same diameter.
> It may help to remove the "power stroke" cover for easier access.
>
> Also drain the fuel bowl first.
>
> -john
>
> RSnovi aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 1/3/00 10:08:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > abrahamc agcs.com writes:
> >
> > my cover was tight as . other than that the o ring was a challenge. Ans
> > make sure you completely drain the sump its in.
> >
> > RS
> >

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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:25:32 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - i think i have a problem

TRITON46L aol.com wrote:
>
> i have a 99 f-150 4.6L v8 4x2 ext cab.
> when i am on an onramp to the interstate, or just passing someone, when my
> tach goes beyond 4500 rpm all the engine does is rev loudly with no power
> increase.
> is this normal of these new engines?
>
> if anyone could give me some info i would be very appreciative.
>
> thanks, Bill
>
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Bill,

Past the 4700 rpm mark there isn't much left in the
tritons. The cam profile is set to deliver torque at a low
RPM so the trade off is no power at higher rpm. The mustang
4.6 delivers 260 hp at about 5000 and 302 lb/ft at 4700 so
If you put that motor in our trucks they would be gutless
off the line but better at high rpms. So yes to your
question.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 09:52:18 -0800
From: johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Changing 99.5 PSD Fuel Filter

RE tigtening: I tighten until the cover sits flush with the bowl, and perhaps
1/4 - 1/2 turn more. Without forcing it, it should become
pretty obvious when it's seated. Try it; you'll see.

RE pliers: I have a large oil filter wrench, so I don't have to do the plier trick.
In an emergency, I'd do the plier trick, but long term I suspect I'd
break
one of the fins while over-torquing on the reinstallation.

RE fuel bowl draining: Perhaps, but also a bit of overkill. I've found the draining
leaves little if anything in the bowl. Turning the key on activates
a fuel pump which will flush additional fuel.

I drain the fuel bowl every 3000 miles when I do the oil change, and
typically find nothing but diesel. No water, particles, etc...

I'm changing the fuel filter at 15K intervals. I have 25K currently.


NOTE: I recently changed the ATF 24K miles to Mobil 1. I've driven longer
distances now, that I am starting to see temp drops of 5F-7F from what I used
to see before. Unloaded I used to see 30F over ambient, and 40F loaded w/
a 3000 lbs tuck camper. (flat highway, locked converter, about 65-70 mph,
40+ minutes of drive time (unloaded 7000 lbs, loaded 10,050 lbs))

The synthetic seems to shed heat a bit faster too, but it's really hard to tell
for sure.

- -john

Charles Abraham wrote:

> Thanks RS and John.
>
> About the tight cover, how tight did you make the cover when re-installing it?
>
> I checked the FAQs on ford -diesel. com, for "fuel filter changes", and on removing
> the tight cover they stated that in lieu of a strap wrench one could use two
> grip-lock
> priers, each being attached to an opposite cover fin/blade. Then, holding these as
> handle
> bars, apply sufficient torque to release the cover. Also, on draining the sump bowl
> of
> fuel, they recommended turning the ignition key to the "On" position with the water
> drain valve in the open position until no more fuel comes out. Good advice?



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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:05:28 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Changing 99.5 PSD Fuel Filter

In a message dated 1/4/00 9:43:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, abrahamc agcs.com
writes:


i did it just hand tight, I dont reccommend pliers, might crack it if your
not careful, i think is a fiberglass or composite type cover. (i think i
used some robogrip types)

remove cover black cover on top would be a good idea too, i learned

Just turn the yella handle and let it drain, no need to turn the key on
unless you really want diesel all over everywhere.


Ross S.

<<

Thanks RS and John.

About the tight cover, how tight did you make the cover when re-installing
it?

I checked the FAQs on ford -diesel. com, for "fuel filter changes", and on
removing
the tight cover they stated that in lieu of a strap wrench one could use two
grip-lock
priers, each being attached to an opposite cover fin/blade. Then, holding
these as
handle
bars, apply sufficient torque to release the cover. Also, on draining the
sump bowl
of
fuel, they recommended turning the ignition key to the "On" position with
the water
drain valve in the open position until no more fuel comes out. Good advice?
>>
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:47:36 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - partsvoice.com

Guys i would take a look at this site if you ever need anything for that
ageing FoMoCo, i got refered to it from a mustang list i am on and its a
pretty neat deal.





R.P. Smith
9sec93cobra
99F250SD PSD/SC/4x4/ chip/ Redline oils
no-cat/ 5 in exhaust/ 285 BFG mud terrains
www.wegofaster.com
850.574.9139
810.222.8292 fax
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:14:36 -0800
From: "Jeff Schapker" evansville.net>
Subject: FTE 97up - Continuous Wheel Balancers

Has anyone used this type of product on their truck? Have seen them listed
in a couple of four wheel drive magazines. They sound impressive but do they
really work? http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.centramatic.com/index.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.balancemasters.com/homepageleft.html


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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 16:50:31 -0500
From: Stan Wright hpcisp.com>
Subject: FTE 97up - fuel sender problem?

I think I might be having a problem with the fuel sender or gauge, and I
wanted to see if anyone else has.

I've tried to try out all the features of my new truck. This includes
the 'low fuel' warning light. Twice my fuel guage has went down to 'E'
and the 'low fuel' light has illuminated. But three times when the fuel
guage is slightly below 1/4 tank the truck has died, and would not start
until I put more gas in it.

I have an auxiliary gas tank, so running out of gas in my main tank is
not a big problem. The fuel from the auxiliary tank is pumped into the
main tank. When the truck dies I pump gas into the main tank for about
a minute, and the truck starts again.

Before I take the truck to the dealer I will verify that the tank is
empty when the guage says it still has a 1/4 tank. I just wanted to
find out if anyone else has had this problem, or has any other ideas?
The truck is a 1999 F250 SD with the V10.

The problem has happened on flat ground, so I don't think it's a problem
of the fuel pickup being uncovered. The problem is not consistent,
either. It died the first time. Then the fuel guage worked twice.
Then the truck has died two more times.

The fuel is getting close to 1/4 tank again, so maybe I can find out
more info soon.

Thanks.

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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:51:58 EST
From: TRITON46L aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - i think i have a problem

so then in a truck it is better to have your torque peak at low end right?
if this is true, what is the "best" rpm range to make your peak torque at?
the new chevy/gm engines make their peak torque at 4000 rpm. does this make
their engines any less able to tow or haul?
all the people i know with a new silverado or sierra, says their engine lacks
low end torque, but they are quick as all h#ll. they say their engines make
90% of their peak torque from 1500-nearly 5000 rpm. but those i have talked
to say this isn't true.

if anyone has any comments or ideas, feel free to educate the rest of us.

thanks,
bill

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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:11:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Keith Privratsky yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - fuel sender problem?

I had the same problem in the same truck. The dealer
ended up having to replace the fuel sending unit in
the tank. Works fine now.

Keith P
99 F250 SD SC V10
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:23:00 EST
From: Speir2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - fuel sender problem?

In a message dated 1/4/00 4:54:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
swright hpcisp.com writes:

<< I think I might be having a problem with the fuel sender or gauge, and I
wanted to see if anyone else has.

I've tried to try out all the features of my new truck. This includes
the 'low fuel' warning light. Twice my fuel gauge has went down to 'E'
and the 'low fuel' light has illuminated. But three times when the fuel
gauge is slightly below 1/4 tank the truck has died, and would not start
until I put more gas in it. >>

I have a 99 Ford F250 PSD & have the same problem with the fuel gauge
upon carrying it back to the dealer he ordered & installed a new sensor it
did not improve the problem, I must set my trip odometer back to 0 each
time I fillup & get fuel according to the mileage before running out. I should
have carried it back for repair, but have not yet.
Elzie Speir
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:46:38 EST
From: Alevinsonaol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - URL of interior website

At one time I found a website that would allow you to look around the
interior of a Superduty truck. You controlled which direction you looked.
Can anyone remember the URL of that website?

Thanks,

Alex L
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 02:05:59 EST
From: RSnoviaol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - non ford content

In a message dated 1/4/00 7:13:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
blazer503yahoo.com writes:


I hope no one on the list is from Virgina Tech, GO SEMINOLES! (sorry I bleed
garnet and gold)

RS

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 01:14:37 -0600
From: sseeplanejuno.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - non ford content

Do you get a discount at Dillard's, too?

d:-O)

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 02:05:59 EST RSnoviaol.com writes:
>
> I hope no one on the list is from Virgina Tech, GO SEMINOLES!
> (sorry I bleed
> garnet and gold)
>
> RS
>
>
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