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From: owner-97up-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (97up-list-digest) To: 97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 97up-list-digest V2 #352 Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 97up-list-digest Saturday, January 1 2000 Volume 02 : Number 352 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up FTE 97up - 295/75R-16 or ??? for 4WD SD? Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 07:13:17 -0500 From: CnC Subject: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up Following up on the subject of how much should a 30,000 mile checkup cost at your local Ford dealer, my dealer's service writer said that I could expect to lay out around $360. He explained that they change all of the fluids, replace belts, adjust everything to factory specs, etc. No way around it, I asked? Nope. Well, I think I shall explore having a friend who runs an alley garage handle it for me. If he'll do it, that way I know that it will be done right, the charges won't be excessive, but I don't know if that will sour my dealer on doing any more warranty work for me. Any comments about avoiding the dealer's shop for these type of checkups? - -30- CnC DixieViking pbtcomm.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:45:18 -0500 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up CnC wrote: > > Following up on the subject of how much should a 30,000 mile checkup cost at > your local Ford dealer, my dealer's service writer said that I could expect > to lay out around $360. He explained that they change all of the fluids, > replace belts, adjust everything to factory specs, etc. No way around it, I > asked? Nope. Well, I think I shall explore having a friend who runs an > alley garage handle it for me. If he'll do it, that way I know that it will > be done right, the charges won't be excessive, but I don't know if that will > sour my dealer on doing any more warranty work for me. Any comments about > avoiding the dealer's shop for these type of checkups? > -30- > CnC > DixieViking pbtcomm.net > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html CnC, Could you get an exact print of what they do. The only belt is the serpentine belt and it should be warrantied past 30,000 miles. Adjust what? Every thing is computer controlled or lubed for life, except for a grease fitting or two. Change tranny fluid, yes but $360.00? Look in your maintenance book to see what Ford recommends. Inspections should not cost $360.00. Maybe I am wrong, but I sure hope not. Regards Jean Marc Chartier == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:01:29 -0600 From: "Mike Fairleigh" Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up My '98 F-150 just rolled past 22,000 miles. I called the dealer the other day to get a price on tranny fluid change (I use the normal schedule for everything but lubricants, severe schedule for those - cheap insurance). For light trucks, they charge $150 flat. I know I can get it done cheaper somewhere else, and probably get a more complete change, but am still concerned about proper documentation of the work to avoid future problems with warranty work. (BTW, does anyone know if there is an aftermarket 4R70W pan with a magnet and drain plug?) In any case, I WILL have that work done. Beyond that, though, I have no plans to pay anyone hundreds of dollars for work that doesn't even need done. Serpentine belt? The cost should be less than $40 - maybe much less - and should take 1/2 hour or less for any DIY'er to install. What else is there to do? I suppose changing out the coolant would be a good idea, but even with that we aren't anywhere near $360 worth of work. Now, if by "change all the fluids" they include PS fluid, rear end, you know, the whole 9 yards, then that would be different. Mike Fairleigh mikef sky.net ...Always remembering our veterans. > CnC wrote: > > > > Following up on the subject of how much should a 30,000 mile checkup cost at > > your local Ford dealer, my dealer's service writer said that I could expect > > to lay out around $360. He explained that they change all of the fluids, > > replace belts, adjust everything to factory specs, etc. No way around it, I > > asked? Nope. Well, I think I shall explore having a friend who runs an > > alley garage handle it for me. If he'll do it, that way I know that it will > > be done right, the charges won't be excessive, but I don't know if that will > > sour my dealer on doing any more warranty work for me. Any comments about > > avoiding the dealer's shop for these type of checkups? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:21:35 -0700 From: Alan Bowes Subject: FTE 97up - 295/75R-16 or ??? for 4WD SD? I'm considering a set of larger tires for my '99 XLT 4WD SD SC SB 6.8L, but I do NOT want to make any suspension modifications and I obviously do NOT want to experience any clearance problems througout the full wheel travel and steering ranges. I also want to make sure that the larger size is within the allowable range for reprogramming the speed sensor, AND that it will fit (properly) on the stock XLT aluminum rim. So, what...in your collective wisdom...is the largest tire size that I can use? AND/OR what is the largest tire size that Ford would approve? I can't remember what the rim width is for the XLT aluminum rim (and I couldn't find this spec in my set of service manuals!). Does anyone know offhand? I was thinking about installing a set of 295/75R-16 tires. Specs for a typical 295/75R-16 seem to be approximately as follows: Allowable rim width range: 7.5 - 9.5 inches Tire diameter: 33.5 inches Tread width: 9.5 inches Section width: 11.6 on 8.0" rim Static loaded radius 15.2 inches Load rating: 3415 lbs 65 psi (load range D) The 295/75 size (as compared with the stock 265/75 size) would change my "effective" axle ratio from 4.30 to just a hair under 4.10, which would be fine with me, since the 4.30 seems a bit low for my purposes. Even though the above specs are for a D load range tire, you'll note that it can actually carry MORE weight than the stock 265/75 size in an E load range. So, will this size fit OK? Will it cause any warranty difficulties? Could it cause any legal problems in case of accident? I'm open to opinions. Thanks, Alan == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:36:59 -0600 From: Kevin Jerome Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up My Ford dealer service experiences tell me hands down one thing - to avoid having the dealer touch my truck, if I can avoid it in any way. However, getting thorough, accurate documentation of non-dealer service is the key to any future claims you may have. It is generally best to have receipts detailing the specific diagnosis of the problem, the specific parts used, and the specific work performed. Arbitrators in warranty claim cases will tell you that whoever has the better documentation of their side of the story generally wins. The arbitrators are a group of people Ford employs to settle disagreements that cannot be resolved at the dealer level. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of 97up-list-digest V2 #352.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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