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97up-list-digest Saturday, January 1 2000 Volume 02 : Number 352



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up
Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up
Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up
FTE 97up - 295/75R-16 or ??? for 4WD SD?
Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up

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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 07:13:17 -0500
From: CnC pbtcomm.net>
Subject: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up

Following up on the subject of how much should a 30,000 mile checkup cost at
your local Ford dealer, my dealer's service writer said that I could expect
to lay out around $360. He explained that they change all of the fluids,
replace belts, adjust everything to factory specs, etc. No way around it, I
asked? Nope. Well, I think I shall explore having a friend who runs an
alley garage handle it for me. If he'll do it, that way I know that it will
be done right, the charges won't be excessive, but I don't know if that will
sour my dealer on doing any more warranty work for me. Any comments about
avoiding the dealer's shop for these type of checkups?
- -30-
CnC
DixieViking pbtcomm.net


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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:45:18 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up

CnC wrote:
>
> Following up on the subject of how much should a 30,000 mile checkup cost at
> your local Ford dealer, my dealer's service writer said that I could expect
> to lay out around $360. He explained that they change all of the fluids,
> replace belts, adjust everything to factory specs, etc. No way around it, I
> asked? Nope. Well, I think I shall explore having a friend who runs an
> alley garage handle it for me. If he'll do it, that way I know that it will
> be done right, the charges won't be excessive, but I don't know if that will
> sour my dealer on doing any more warranty work for me. Any comments about
> avoiding the dealer's shop for these type of checkups?
> -30-
> CnC
> DixieViking pbtcomm.net
>
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CnC,

Could you get an exact print of what they do. The only
belt is the serpentine belt and it should be warrantied past
30,000 miles. Adjust what? Every thing is computer
controlled or lubed for life, except for a grease fitting or
two. Change tranny fluid, yes but $360.00? Look in your
maintenance book to see what Ford recommends. Inspections
should not cost $360.00. Maybe I am wrong, but I sure hope
not.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:01:29 -0600
From: "Mike Fairleigh" sky.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up

My '98 F-150 just rolled past 22,000 miles. I called the dealer the other
day to get a price on tranny fluid change (I use the normal schedule for
everything but lubricants, severe schedule for those - cheap insurance).
For light trucks, they charge $150 flat. I know I can get it done cheaper
somewhere else, and probably get a more complete change, but am still
concerned about proper documentation of the work to avoid future problems
with warranty work. (BTW, does anyone know if there is an aftermarket 4R70W
pan with a magnet and drain plug?)

In any case, I WILL have that work done. Beyond that, though, I have no
plans to pay anyone hundreds of dollars for work that doesn't even need
done. Serpentine belt? The cost should be less than $40 - maybe much
less - and should take 1/2 hour or less for any DIY'er to install. What
else is there to do? I suppose changing out the coolant would be a good
idea, but even with that we aren't anywhere near $360 worth of work. Now,
if by "change all the fluids" they include PS fluid, rear end, you know, the
whole 9 yards, then that would be different.

Mike Fairleigh
mikef sky.net
...Always remembering our veterans.


> CnC wrote:
> >
> > Following up on the subject of how much should a 30,000 mile checkup
cost at
> > your local Ford dealer, my dealer's service writer said that I could
expect
> > to lay out around $360. He explained that they change all of the
fluids,
> > replace belts, adjust everything to factory specs, etc. No way around
it, I
> > asked? Nope. Well, I think I shall explore having a friend who runs an
> > alley garage handle it for me. If he'll do it, that way I know that it
will
> > be done right, the charges won't be excessive, but I don't know if that
will
> > sour my dealer on doing any more warranty work for me. Any comments
about
> > avoiding the dealer's shop for these type of checkups?



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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:21:35 -0700
From: Alan Bowes todacosa.com>
Subject: FTE 97up - 295/75R-16 or ??? for 4WD SD?

I'm considering a set of larger tires for my '99 XLT 4WD SD SC SB 6.8L, but
I do NOT want to make any suspension modifications and I obviously do NOT
want to experience any clearance problems througout the full wheel travel
and steering ranges. I also want to make sure that the larger size is within
the allowable range for reprogramming the speed sensor, AND that it will fit
(properly) on the stock XLT aluminum rim.

So, what...in your collective wisdom...is the largest tire size that I can
use? AND/OR what is the largest tire size that Ford would approve?

I can't remember what the rim width is for the XLT aluminum rim (and I
couldn't find this spec in my set of service manuals!). Does anyone know
offhand?

I was thinking about installing a set of 295/75R-16 tires. Specs for a
typical 295/75R-16 seem to be approximately as follows:

Allowable rim width range: 7.5 - 9.5 inches
Tire diameter: 33.5 inches
Tread width: 9.5 inches
Section width: 11.6 on 8.0" rim
Static loaded radius 15.2 inches
Load rating: 3415 lbs 65 psi (load range D)

The 295/75 size (as compared with the stock 265/75 size) would change my
"effective" axle ratio from 4.30 to just a hair under 4.10, which would be
fine with me, since the 4.30 seems a bit low for my purposes. Even though
the above specs are for a D load range tire, you'll note that it can
actually carry MORE weight than the stock 265/75 size in an E load range.

So, will this size fit OK? Will it cause any warranty difficulties? Could it
cause any legal problems in case of accident? I'm open to opinions.

Thanks,

Alan



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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:36:59 -0600
From: Kevin Jerome arc.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 30,000 mile check up

My Ford dealer service experiences tell me hands down one thing - to
avoid having the dealer touch my truck, if I can avoid it in any way.
However, getting thorough, accurate documentation of non-dealer service
is the key to any future claims you may have. It is generally best to
have receipts detailing the specific diagnosis of the problem, the
specific parts used, and the specific work performed. Arbitrators in
warranty claim cases will tell you that whoever has the better
documentation of their side of the story generally wins. The
arbitrators are a group of people Ford employs to settle disagreements
that cannot be resolved at the dealer level.

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